We need a video like this on death magnetic's terrible drum mix... the snare is clipping every second...

@Thegamer10113

Жыл бұрын

Even in the unmastered non clipping version it sounds like shit.

@iliketrains3495

Жыл бұрын

FR, The Day That Never Comes has some really awful snare mixing

@arthurgabriel4325

Жыл бұрын

everything clips on that shit

@smarkmalark

Жыл бұрын

All because of Dick Rubin, and Greg Fidelman thinking they were keeping up with the times, but like what Kirk said in SKOM, It just ended up dating it to that period

@Jzalar97

Жыл бұрын

@@smarkmalark mainly Rubin since Fidelman was at the helm for Hardwired and it sounds way better

I think there is a generational thing that goes on with guitar tone. I love the tone of Master of Puppets and guitar from that era, but only a few bands today have tones I enjoy.

@rahulmenon4357

Жыл бұрын

Recorded next door tone?

@rahulmenon4357

Жыл бұрын

IMO MOP is a masterclass on amazing songs sound amazing no matter how dogshit the recording is

@Bedrockbrendan

Жыл бұрын

@@rahulmenon4357 I am not judging. If he dislikes the tone that is a perfectly valid opinion. I've just noticed a divide that is surprising to me me online and a lot of does seem a bit generational (though I also think it can have to do with how plugged on is into online conversations also). Most people I know my age, like that abrasive tone, like heavy use of reverb, and liked pedals like the Metalzone growing up. But when I hear people about a generation younger speak about tone they can't stand the metal zone and they think a lot the stuff we listened to in the 80s and early 90s sounds terrible in terms of how it was recorded, the tone, etc. But when I listen to music from current bands, even if I like the songs, and I often do, I find I don't like the mixes and how the instruments are blended. I think a lot of this is preference. My favorite tones though are from guitar bands and recordings in the 70s. That is a little before my time, but I think they nailed the guitar tone sound personally. But on the heavier end of the spectrum, the thrash, death and doom from the mid 80s to 90s to my ear has a more pleasing guitar tone and overall mix (provided you aren't including records that were really done on the cheap) than current stuff. Just my opinion though. I treat it the same way I treat differences in movies. Sometimes I recommend a film I think is classic and the pacing, practical effects, the use of sound stages, etc, that all puts off a younger audience who have different expectations in terms of how the film is edited and filmed.

@metalheadballer3398

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with this. I really feel that the guitar tone took a hit from the original but I appreciate that the other instruments are easier to hear and that the new vocals feel more alive. I feel like you had to sacrifice guitar tone for the sake of everything else which I'm sure is exactly the opposite of what Papa Hetfield wanted at the time. The bassy guitar tone is so iconic to Metallicas sound that you can't rely replace it. --From a bass player that would get drowned out by the original tone

@bang9869

Жыл бұрын

Because thrash is shit and almost nobody under 30 wants to play it, I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find the same amount of people who even like thrash🤣🤣

Thank God you're here to fix one of the best thrash albums ever made for us.

@Helena-gk4ui

Жыл бұрын

sarcasm?

@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap

Жыл бұрын

@@Helena-gk4ui ye. Idk

@Rednax_Official

Жыл бұрын

@@Helena-gk4ui i agree if it's sarcastic

@dylangajdosik964

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure Metallica are going to throw away their 6X platinum record in the trash now.

@marcusaurelius5742

Жыл бұрын

Musically one of the best ever made? Yeah. Sonically? Eh.

Mike's version is like when you pop an air bubble in your ear after exiting a pool.

@adrianfong5783

Жыл бұрын

It went from sounding like a Metallica song to a Megadeth song, his mix gave me a rust in peace vibe

Definitely feels bigger, but loses that 80s feel. People like the mid scoop.

@JimmyKlef

Жыл бұрын

Yea but this has been an age old thing. Trust me, it’s been battled on a million hills and the super scoopers always die. I used to be a scooped defender. I then got much more experienced with music and bands live and recording and I literally wouldn’t even consider working with someone who is so out of touch about how music and frequencies and bands and musical cohesion works anymore. The problem is is that there is only so much real estate in audio frequencies. And everyone, i mean every single musician ever wants to stand out. And also everyone at some point was inspired by guys like metallica and whatnot. So everyone, i mean every single boy or girl with an electric and a dream and metal in their bones thinks “nah dude III can make it work because like III am specifically awesomer than everyone else”. That idea, even if not thought of that arrogantly displays a total lack of respect for what others have accomplished. Guitars are mid range instruments. Meaning that their fundamentals AND harmonics do not extend the full frequency range. Throwing distortion on can push it further (it actually usually decreases the frequency excitement range) but it’s literally JUST noise lower than the fundamental or higher than the harmonics. To naive ears “it sounds so heavy and huge”. To anyone that knows better that sounds childish. Because honestly we have ALL been there. So many production people started out wanting to be the next james hetfield or kurt cobain or the guys from Korn. We tried. Many men far greater than i have tried long before i ever did to make a washed out “huge” box of total death mush work in a song. It literally never will. You can move your kick around, invent a new goddamn kind of drum or bass instrument to play with… it’s not going to work well in a mix. But yes. Of course you CAN do a mix with super scooped guitars. But that mix could always be better and heavier. Anyone worth anything in music knows that. Also, sort of same thing applies with distortion. And when everyone thinks “yea tons of distortion and super scooped” and then reasonable people inform them its not gonna be the best it could be of course they think “ah fuck you old man” and people do it anyway. Hell, half the metal albums on this planet try desperately anyway to still have those super scooped guitars and do. And i just know an engineer or producer working on it was pulling their hair out trying to fit it in like that and 100 percent of the time the music suffers. Be a bass player or a piano player or just some other instruments if you want them to do things guitars don’t sound good doing. Or play by your lonesome. Whatever.

@razztastic

Жыл бұрын

@@JimmyKlef Nobody cares. You like your tone or you don't. That's the end of it. Not my business, not your business, not anyone's business. Period. I don't see what the big fuckin hoopla is.

@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap

Жыл бұрын

The black album is the happy medium

@teosandell4278

Жыл бұрын

@@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap The black album is ULTRA scooped

@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap

Жыл бұрын

@@teosandell4278 if you look at it, it isn’t. It is very scooped at 1.2k, but with the mids pushed back up 763hrtz and is pushed up at 2.3k - 6k. It keeps that scooped sounding nature we love, but without overwhelming the mix. It lets the bass do its job and the drums with there crisp edge move greatly throughout the mix even though the guitars are very dominant in the mix. Combine that with how the guitars are wide as fuck, the drums are narrow and crisp, and the bass sits well even more narrow makes the mix way more satisfying while still maintaining that thick meat headed vibe like on AJFA. That is why the black album has the greatest production. If you have any other questions let me know.

This is like a chef examining your favorite meal your mom made you. Yeah, maybe it isn't for everyone, but it has the taste of a moment in space and time that evokes nostalgia. You can't make mom's spaghetti better for me, but I appreciate what you are doing.

I was really sceptical when I clicked on the video, but you somehow managed to do it justice. MOP just got a lot more of a modern sound. Great job!

@finnvanderbar3935

Жыл бұрын

Justice? like, like... likee...... AJFA?

@Squirrelconga

Жыл бұрын

....And Justice for Masters

@bigassdummy46

Жыл бұрын

That's not a good thing

@cunjoz

Жыл бұрын

skeptical*

@Zlittlepenguin

11 ай бұрын

@@bigassdummy46I think it’s neither a good nor bad thing tbh. Obviously it’s a classic and it’s important to be able to hear it the way it was intended. That being said, it’s also dated and sounds like trash at times. I think this video did a good job at showcasing that you can maintain the integrity of the song while giving it a clearer sound. I liken it to adding colour to a black and white film.

I'm a begginer guitarist and I have to thank you to opening my eyes and ears to the importance of production quality and to having more of a trained ear , this video covers exactly what I would have overlooked previously. Keep the awesome content coming, rock on!!!!

@nicholasjansen5601

Жыл бұрын

Here’s some advice from an experienced guitarist. Forget production quality for now and focus solely on learning your instrument. There will come a time for that but that time is not now.

@JaggedDagger

Жыл бұрын

Here's more advice. Don't take tips from a KZreadr who is tone deaf

@AndresGarcia-qk3sj

Жыл бұрын

​@@JaggedDaggerhere comes the butthurt fan

@7ChaosBlack

28 күн бұрын

Don't take advice from a guy who ranks Dream Theater above Slayer and thinks 80s Black Sabbath is unimpressive.

Mids are so under appreciated when it comes to guitar. I took off the bass and dialed up the mids on my amp and left the treble higher, and my tone sounded much bigger without being muddy.

@stevenhirsekorn3444

Жыл бұрын

And now all that midrange covers up all the nuance of the guitar and the bass good job

@stevenhirsekorn3444

Жыл бұрын

@UseTheSupeRsonic I highly recommend everyone who is serious about guitar tone get a 31 band graphic eq for their effects loop.the knobs on an amp for me are typically not useful because they usually are passive and do very little to shape it. Active eq is much more flexible

@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap

Жыл бұрын

Listen to poisonous shadows by Megadeath. The bass and guitar are one unit. You get the low end. But extra detail from the guitar. That is how to get a percussive low end with loud detail.

@stevenhirsekorn3444

Жыл бұрын

@squaredcircle1111 with how a lot of people mix their tracks they high and low pass leaving you with just a wall of mids. Don’t even try to act like that isn’t the first thing you see in pretty much every single modern metal guitar mixing tutorial. Then that acts almost like pink noise over the whole track and you lose a lot of the dynamics and detail information and not in a good way. Imo the best sounding albums had the midrange in the guitar pulled back a little, you get more nuance and clarity and low end potentially from the whole band. Demanufacture from fear factory,all the pantera albums, bolt thrower, the later death albums are all good examples of this.

@stevenhirsekorn3444

Жыл бұрын

@squaredcircle1111 and when you crank those albums up loud they sound amazing. Nobody cares if the guitars sit in the mix with that midrange push. They care does it sound evil and heavy and brutal. Scooped mixes just sound heavier.

“Before” “After” *me nodding my head, even though I can’t tell the difference*

Dude, great work! I was skeptical at first, but I really like what you've done to it. That Metallica-'bathtub-EQ' sounds cool on its own, but in a mix everything else has to compromise in order to make up for it.

Fantastic job not just presenting the mix from the technical aspect but actually describing the thought process behind what and why you made these enhancements… along with describing the feel of it all… awesome stuff 🤘🏻

I prefer Ride The Lightning’s tone a lot more than Master Of Puppets.

@Noah_2008

Жыл бұрын

Bro…… no

@youreokayboah2128

Жыл бұрын

@@Noah_2008 Yes

@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap

Жыл бұрын

The tone has more balanced frequencies but with the added reverb, it takes a lot of the details away and makes the mix overly chaotic. The black album has the best tones in all music. That album is produced perfectly.

@smokedkillbasa544

Жыл бұрын

One might say overproduced.

@MetalHeadProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@smokedkillbasa544 overproduced = doesnt sound like shit.

This was actually really interesting. Can you do something like this with a detailed breakdown of what you consider to already be a really good mix?

It sounded pretty good on a cassette!! It might be more harsh listening through digital mediums everything sounds more separated. With cassettes it all bled together and sounded thicker.

@chadcampbell3888

Жыл бұрын

I believe the band and Fleming Rasmussen have said his run of albums was mixed for the cassette as the primary physical media of the time.

@soulknight5330

Жыл бұрын

That explains a lot of things

As much as I love cliff, his bass just sounded like mindless low end but the way mike re-did it, the growl is back, I can here what cliff is actually playing, and it sounded more clear instead of just stomach gurgling.

I find this fun to watch and see how things are mixed. Very cool video

Awesome video, it really sounds a lot better with your mix. Well done, Mike. Well done!

I know my opinion is probably an unpopular but I honestly prefer the OG version.

@Koake1002

3 ай бұрын

No your 100 percent on point. This guy thinks he is doing justice to the album. He actually made it worst.

Oh. It wasn't a joke. Dude is literally trying "fix" MASTER OF PUPPETS. Interesting.

@sgtbootycheeks7874

Жыл бұрын

Dude isn’t “trying to fix” Master of Puppets the song, he’s fixing a mix that was made over more than 30 years ago. If you don’t understand what he is doing, you have no knowledge of what makes a mix sound good. It wasn’t because Metallica is bad, it’s because the producer and mixers choices.

@randymiles904

Жыл бұрын

@@sgtbootycheeks7874 I understand what he's trying to do, but some things should be left alone. For instance, ANYTHING iconic. That was the sound and the style of the time, and it was great. You used to listen to albums and every one had a different feel and sound, and dare I say personality. Now everything sounds the same, because producers using similar programs think they've cracked the code on what all music should sound like, and what should be heard. Leave shit alone.

@prodICYN

6 ай бұрын

@@randymiles904 That's just dumb, he's not saying he doesn't like MOP. It's not because something's iconic that it can't be both criticized and remixed/remastered

@ChainsawSlammer1.3.8

4 ай бұрын

​@@randymiles904 They're will still sound unique and different, just remixed, remastered. I do remasters of Mortician. Once they were the heaviest band, but I think it's obvious for all that modern sound technologies are exceed the old's. So I just make Mortician heavier than modern bands.

I'd like to watch more videos on the music production side of things. It'd be cool to hear perhaps a Crusader song with different settings on the mix just to see what goes into producing a song for release.

My big problem with the mixes from Ride the Lightning up to And Justice For All is that the bass was barely inaudible. Keep in mind that this is coming from a bass player, but that’s just me. Also you are right, as much as I love Cliff, his bass tone by itself when it’s not covered with distortion and wah is just bad. But I love what you did with his tone and the mix in general. Definitely do more vids like this.

Guitar sounds so much higher/cleaner. Yeah, the bass doesn't sound so muffled. Geeze, the small db changes, escaped me, due to occupational hearing loss ( high end, in my left, and low end in my right ), props to you, still being able to do that. This is kick ass cool dude. There's a lot of "reaction" vids, on here, with "old heads", just chalking up, some music, as just "noise" ( due to the limitations of, thech/recording media ). Doing this, to mixing, could help ppl appreciate, the tracks, more. The time you took, to remix this, and make it so much cleaner, without taking anything away from the emotion the band/musicians, put into, the message, really gives someone, a better appreciation, for the advancement, in production products ( I have a clearer picture, of how "Rick Beato", can appreciate the production, of current music, when he does his Spotify top 10's, even though the substance/storytelling, may not, be there ). I'm a closet, bargain basement investee, in guitar gear, with just a grasp, on "I know how to tune it" lol, and the more I learn about theory, and whatnot, is making me feel, more, and more comfortable, with the daunting task of trying to learn, at my age. Thanks.

Are you able to upload your version of the song on YT in its entirety? There are some genuine top tier remixes of other Metallica songs out there that are brilliant and interesting to listen to. Your work here is really cool and Id love to hear the whole thing here! Well done, man.

Holy moly! Like a day and night difference! All throughout the video I was kinda sure there will be a link to download your mix for the whole song. MY DISAPPOINTMENT IS UNMEASURABLE AND MY WHOLE DAY IS RUINED 😢. I want it on my Spotify so bad :(

Very cool video Mike! More of these please!

I enjoy you “fixing” these mixes that have been ruined for you. Ranting and all. But how about a challenge: fixing …And Justice For All😅

@GeneralMiller92FIN

Жыл бұрын

Hard to fix something what doesn't exist i.e. bass guitar.

@tyresesmith6799

Жыл бұрын

@@GeneralMiller92FIN the bass is in the mix, it’s just hidden

@thecjwolfpack

Жыл бұрын

@@tyresesmith6799 It's in witness protection

@hank35682

Жыл бұрын

Nothing to fix 🤷‍♂️

@hank35682

Жыл бұрын

The albums perfect their best album too

Who is this dude? Imagine picking apart and second guessing the creative decisions of such an icon as Flemming Rasmussen on his most iconic work and thinking you would have done it better. The album is perfectly flawed in every way.

@7ChaosBlack

28 күн бұрын

Mike is someone with his head up his own arse.

Wow there's so much clarity in the mix now, amazing!

Your guitar tone still bites like the original it's just so much more pleasant. Apparently cliff was using an aria pro more often then not in 1985-1986. And likely used it to record master of puppets

Please do more of these! love this

Thanks for doing this man! What a difference! Just out of curiosity - did you approach the mixing with each instrument in solo? Or was that only for demonstration purposes? Usually whenever I mix something I do my best to avoid mixing in solo. Great video! I would've personally loved a little more mids in your final mix but love the energy nonetheless. Fun vid!

This reminds me of when I was walking away from the doctors after having my ears syringed and discovering I could hear all of things I couldn't hear before I went in.

I found it interesting that what you did to the bass, kinda makes it sounds like the ride the lightning bass tone, which he actually used his rickenbacker bass on. I’m pretty sure he used his aria bass on this album which may explain the lack of upper midrange

Make more of these kind of videos, I absolutely loved it

Seems like a great example of how good music isn’t determined by how good the actual mix is, what determines a songs success is (in my opinion) largely the production before it reaches the mixing stage

I love the insight you give from these videos dude

Really like this kinda video. You're awesome. Good job Mike! 👍

Damn, you hit that spacebar as if it owed you money

I don't get the point of "correcting" the mixes which stood the test of time and are no doubt good which is confirmed by popularity of the albums.

I love the tone and mix just because it fits it

@smithfan22

Жыл бұрын

This video just got posted and you watched 40 mins of material in 2 mins?

@jrk10

Жыл бұрын

@@smithfan22 I wasn’t commenting on his mix I just love the original it’s imperfection just makes it more raw

@corduroy3219

Жыл бұрын

@@jrk10 facts not everything needs to be overproduced. one of my favorite mixes is on the album hidden history of the human race by blood incantation because its all analog and really raw but still comprehendible

Its a testament to how cool cliff was since the mixes always buried him

Good job! This new mix makes the song sound 10000000000 times better than it already does!

I'm very ignorant to production, mixing, etc so when i saw the title, I was like ''no way, master of puppets sounds absolutely amazing, you can't possibly make it better'' but you really did, it sounds so much more open and clear.

Hey!!! GREAT video... I LOVE what you did with guitar and bass... I think that vocal preset should have been tweaked slightly... and as far as the drums go.. I think you would've gotten way more out of them if you didn't narrow them, but rather used a mid-side EQ (like fab-filter) to bring out the drums, but leave the overheads out.. they just feel a tad empty for my taste. But GREAT work!!!

The Master of Puppets tone is easily one of the best guitar tones...it’s one of most chased tones for tone freaks

@jonw3462

9 ай бұрын

It's not that outstanding tbf. It used to be amazing but it's easily reproduced and works well for the record.

Cliff had switched to mostly using his Aria SB Black N' Gold at this point, which uses a single humbucking bass pickup

Duuuuuude thank you so much for doing this. I have never been a huge fan of the guitar and drum tones on this album but I have always LOATHED the bass tone. The bass tone on The Black album compared to the early days is such a huge difference. What is your favorite part of this song? My favorite is the riff you were talking about that sounds like sandpaper in the original.

This was pretty insightful, i know nothing about mixing but this was a cool video.

Thanks Mike. Never was a fan of the mix on MOP. Good job on the fix. Would have done some minor master EQ in the end, but it is already better. Maybe check out the Gullfoss intelligent EQ. That always does nicely on the master.

At first I was skeptical...as you were going through it, it didn't seem to "improve" it so much as make it "louder" but after hearing the final mix, you're right, you "fixed" it. I don't want to listen to it that way, but it's very cool to hear it! My only question is what did the clean section sound like? Would love to hear if there was improvement to the guitar tone there...or if it even needs it.

You definetly did this song justice with this mix my god it's like night and day

This was awesome. I'd love to see you remix a song from St, Anger or ...And Justice next man. Think you'd nail it

I think the tone is fine, but you brought the tone to a higher level! So Respect.

DAC actually stands for digital-to-analog converter but I get why many people erroneously think "digital audio converter" and I suppose it's technically both in a way. It is kinda funny that Hetfield/Hammett/Petrucci all used effectively the same amp but got different metal tones out of it due to a combination of how they dialed it, the speakers they used, and a bit of how they play.

30:40 - that bridge riff is one of my favorite parts of the song. Your [version*] really made the sound a more full, dare I say [more*] holistic sounding? I dunno, anyways. Hey, this was super helpful for me, as I attempt to learn my DAW (including mixing/mastering in general*). If you can add more [content*] like this that would be awesome. Thanks for the tips. * Edit

You should try re-mastering Kill Em’ All too! I think that would make the album sound 10x better.

@aluminumfalcon552

4 ай бұрын

I have the remastered Kill Em All on my spotify, it sounds much better than RTL, MOP, and AJFA. You can hear Cliff’s bass so well in it, it’s how they all should have sounded.

You should remaster the whole Death Magnetic album, I would pay to hear that, seriously!

@ShounenN

Жыл бұрын

There is already a full album remastered out here on yt it is pretty famous and it makes the songs sooooo alive and 10x better..dont really know what it is called anymore tho since I downloaded those songs like 5 years ago haha

I love the way the album sounds, EXCEPT for the title track. Somehow it's always sounded like it was under its potential. The same tone makes the intro to Disposable Heroes one of the heaviest sounding riffs I've ever heard. EDIT: The Orion main riff as well, allthough I do like the spacial drums there. But still under its potential. And I guess Battery and Sanitarium too, here and there. But holy s**t do I love Disposable Heroes. I doubt it could be improved without compromising on whatever it is that I love about it. Anyways, great job with the mix, I like the improvements! Have you heard the Blackened Remix by Ahdy Khairat? Blew me away. People tend to overdo the bass on Justice remixes, but that guy knew how to do it right. If I now listen to the original, it always feels way more lacking than it had already.

Your videos are phenomenal and you just got yourself another subscriber.

If I ever had a minor issue with Master of Puppets, it would be the mix, but at the same time I’ve always just put that down to the era.

Bro your remix legit sounds so much better. You actually fixed the problem that I had with the MOP album and that it always sounded square to me. That is the shape that always comes to mind. Clunky, rough, and not smooth.

Cliff was using his Aria SB bass by the time Puppets was made, if I remember correctly. He didn't use his Ric often 85-86.

Honestly would have expected “ why the AJFA tone isn’t as good as everyone says it is “ video before Pastor Of Muppets tone video.

you need to release this somewhere. i would love to hear the full song with your mix!

fundamentally disagree here. The puppets tone is so much heavier than most tones we get today. Hell, besides Decapitated and Soreption, I can't think of modern bands with heavy tone. Too much mids, too little high...just way too tamed. Just way too little emphasis on the palm mute. It's a heavy guitar. It's MEANT to be harsh.

@jackko21

Жыл бұрын

Yep best guitar tones for me are justice for all Peace sells by megadeth Cowboys from hell by pantera Obituary slowly we rot Death spiritual healing Morbid angel covenant Black sabbath master of reality

@Heatwave9000

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense, its poorly produced.

@terriblecertainity

Жыл бұрын

@@Heatwave9000 verall, too much reverb, and the drums are kinda muddy. Other than that, it fits the songs perfectly. The guitar tone is excellent. Yes, it sounds very different from current tones, but those are boring and soft to me

@jackko21

Жыл бұрын

@@Heatwave9000 better than it being overproduced and sterile metal is supposed to be raw and nasty

What I love about this "fixed version" is that it really sounds more like we were listening to a live performance of the song 😁

yo that korneff eq actually looks amazing. Might give it a try :D

There are probably a 100 different versions of this album out there. I have an original gatefold double LP set which sounds infintely better than any of the others. Kirks solos have a *pop to them you can't hear on other versions, very live sounding like someone took a blanket off the cab. You can also hear Cliffs bass without straining while almost every other version I've heard is almost inaudible. It even sounds better overall than the DCC Gold Disc version. In the end though, it's all in the Ear of the Beholder...

It's supposed to sound extremely tight and sharp, and almost like sandpaper. That was the whole point.

@prodICYN

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and he showed that you can still retain that identity while just sounding better

I heard that Hetfield recorded Master with the drums slightly slowed down in order to deliver a tighter performance (I know you think the performance is sloppy, but bare in mind it was all downstrokes, recorded to tape, on a tight schedule). If that's true, then when the song is played at the correct speed the guitars would naturally sound thinner. In fact, the sound of the guitars changes quite a bit from song to song throughout the album, which leads me to believe not all of the songs had their drums varispeed when recording the guitars, and the ones that had probably had them in different amounts

@snowyrain5730

Жыл бұрын

the things that band had to do so Lars could keep up...

Love your work and opinions!! Very knowledgeable 🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸

whatever that korneff plugin did was absolutely magical

Hi Mike, I have noticed that you have never mentioned the song Blackened even on occasions where you have talked about And Justice For All in general or it's specific songs. You have mentioned One, Dyer's Eve, Harvester of Sorrow and Shortest Straw multiple times, but I have never seen you talk about Blackened which for most is right at the top of their favorites from the album and in their favorites Metallica songs too. Would love to know if you have anything to say.

15:07 he did play a rickenbacker during the early years before it got stolen right before ride the lightning, but it was modded with a “MudBucker” from a Gibson EB-0 which are super warm neck humbuckers which give very little growl so even if he did play one here it would have still be rather rumbly, if i remember correctly i believe he used his aria SB for this song

nice video! I think people should learn the importance of the midrange from this (guitars and vocals especially), even if they like this mix or not

I know from listening to metal music of our days that the level of guitar sound and mix in general improved a lot. But if being honest I still listen to this album and the sound and mix sounds very optimized and feel great. Never heard this music and felt the sound is tetrrible as you mentioned here.

@Eden_Rubin_Music

2 ай бұрын

BTW is that the original track, or the tracks after the remaster version? Right now I've listened to the 1986 compare to the remastered and there's a huge difference actually, especially in the 1986 you can hear the bass wayyyy louder, and not in a very cool way. Actually it's the first time I kinda understood why it was reduced in the first place. The remastered version bass is way more blended. The remaster of this sound great man. no doubt.

You may even be right about the tone, but since this record cemented itself in my then 14yo musical memory waaaay before I even considered tone to be a thing to pay attention to, you'll never ruin it for me ... ... whiiiiich wasn't exactly the case with Blackwater Park. That was just a sulphur hit in your ears XD

I agree with the bass tone part. The reason that Cliff Burton was “sloppy” at times is because he was heavily inspired by punk.

@Hoscitt

Жыл бұрын

And Cliff would come in to the studio, get stoned, do two takes and go home 😄 According to Fleming

@timgonzales2891

Жыл бұрын

He also played almost exclusively 2 finger, but wasn't fast enough to do it clean. If he'd played at least three finger, I imagine he would have been cleaner. Also, distorted bass played with the fingers sounds pretty bad like 90% of the time

@necroticpoison

Жыл бұрын

The tone might make it seem even sloppier. He might've had old strings on the album (RTL sounds like fresh strings) and been subjected to bad EQ and compression on the desk. Both of those things likely make sloppiness much worse.

Excellet job! I wish I could just listen to your version from now on. May I give a little feedback on how you process tour own voice? When you inhale before speaking, it’s as loud as tour voice. You hitting the pause/play on your keyboard is also very loud compared to your voice. I found my attention drift often to focus on those sounds instead of the subject you where explaing.

Cliff played a Ric but with a Gibson EB pickup, a Jazz Bass pickup and a Strat pickup installed so it's not really a Ric sound. Most of the Ric tone is the pickups, they're quite microphonic and really bring out things like fret buzz in the tone that adds to that growl.

Do more of these videos this is great do it with different bands as well

Howie Weinberg did an absolutely amazing job on the remaster imo. Haven't heard a high quality of the original, but the remaster definitely has the modern smoothness and soundscape that is appreciated these days.

Exactly! What it sounds like in isolation (almost) doesn't matter. What does it sound like in the mix? That's something that many guitarists struggle with. Even just a simple HPF even as low as 70 combined with multi-band compressor can make a world of difference within the mix. My jam tone & my mix tone are different animals - they don't sound THAT different, but in isolation, I much prefer my jam tone, but in the mix... yeah.

The difference in the guitars was good. The change in Burton's part was night and day. Bravo.

I wish you would remix the whole album and upload it or allow it for download somewhere that would be awesome.

That was fantastic! I wish you could fix the whole Justice and St Anger albums!

@Daniel-sx6vc

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with Justice

@luisfermin2102

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-sx6vcdude that bass...

@Daniel-sx6vc

Жыл бұрын

@@luisfermin2102 the bass muddied up the mix incredibly, Jason’s tone was ass for those recordings.

@ramymeziane2680

Жыл бұрын

AJFA isn’t AJFA anymore without the “wowowo” of the guitars

@bonesylikesgoodmusic3401

Жыл бұрын

@Daniel 9123 Saying there is nothing wrong AJFA's mix is crazy. Besides the bass issue, the guitars are way too shrill, the bass drum is clicky and thin, the snare is completely underwhelming, it would take a LOT to fully 'fix' that mix

Dude talks about production like production is his middle name. Imagine judging a Van Gogh painting by the brushes he used. Best gears in the world would not gonna do nothing if you don't have talent and a simple acoustic guitar will melt your heart if given to someone talented. Well, not your heart, you are a robot probably.

Mike should do one of these kinds of videos comparing the Deliverence/Damnation remixes to the OG.

PLEASEEEE DO MORE LIKE THIS. I’d love to even see a masterclass about you fixing guitar, drum, bass, and vocal mixing I learned so much from this and it makes me simultaneously overwhelmed and exited about mixing

I bet you have also tried to "fix" the pops and hisses in an old Elvis vinyl and the color palette in the Wizard of Oz. If your first thought upon seeing the Mona Lisa in person is, "she sho do have a lotta cracks in her paint", then you've missed the point. That guitar tone is not just a part of history, it's also a part of the art. Leave it alone!

Do more of these, pretty cool

Interesting analysis of James’s scooped tone potentially causing problems with the bass seeing as how that’s exactly the reason Jason Newsteads performance on AJFA was quite literally lost in the mix

@69mosshead

Жыл бұрын

That and they turned it down, Lars said take it down to barley audible and then drop it by a few more dB

⁠ those sounds and tones are iconic and classic. They will never be outdone. Sure, sometimes they might “sound dated”, but that goes for anything after time passes. The art and the moment is encapsulated forever and this need to “update” tones to apply better to modern ears is a bit of a lost cause, because no matter what you do we are already acclimated to the sound as it has always been. I’ve rarely heard a remastered album or remixed album outdo the original. That snapshot taken at the time of recording is magical because it is an impossible moment to happen again.

This is awesome. Can you please upload the full song with your remix?

Thats a great mix Mike! However when you A/B your individual instrument mixes with the original, yours always sound a few dB's louder. Which always sound better because of our ears work. I would recommand setting your mixes at the same level as the original ones so we could compare it better. But great video anyway! Where did you get these stems from?

@BecomeTheKnight

Жыл бұрын

The final mix was level-matched.

Holy sh*t, it would be amazing to hear remixed Orion after that!

You do a fucking awesome job dude great work. That said your definitely the guy that works at guitar center and asks if he can try something on the guitar that your playing and starts shredding to show how much better he’s is than everyone lol all do respect bro. We get it lol. Keep up the good work though you killed that.

Very enjoyable, prefer the original personally for sentimental reasons, but objectively your mix is definitely better. Not including the vocals, I didn't get what the improvements were meant to be, it just sounded like it suited the new instrumental mix slightly better than the original vocals.. maybe that was the improvement. Good video though 👍

Really nice. Definitely noticed the difference more after I put on my headphones.