I found a 3d model made by someone else that you can try, this is not my model so I don't know how the outcome will look like - www.printables.com/model/801870-realistic-tyres-for-lego-10330-mclaren-senna-formu

That simple change makes it look so much better wow Why LEGO didn’t make wider rear tires themselves in the first place is beyond me

@johnnytifosi

3 ай бұрын

Because fanboys will buy it anyway.

@razorsitch9882

3 ай бұрын

Two lots of new wheels, two lots of new tyres, twice as much expense on design, prototypes and production costs. Wouldn’t have been worth if for them to do it.

@tren133

3 ай бұрын

@@johnnytifosi One of the main reasons I'll be getting the CaDA Alfa Romeo F1 car is that unlike Lego F1 sets, the Alfa has wider rear tires, and also Pirelli printed right on tire as a cherry on top. Makes even the slick tires on the upcoming Mercedes F1 car look like crap in comparison.

@DoorTechnicianRick

3 ай бұрын

"OnLy tHe BesT iS gOoD eNoUgH"

@craig855s

3 ай бұрын

@@razorsitch9882 whilst what you say makes some sense... The Ferrari SP3 daytona has staggered rims and tyres, and theyre completely bespoke parts for that set.

It's one thing to say it doesn't work, but this, visually, proves it. Those larger tires look so much better and make a huge visual difference! Thanks for making this video to show your point.

Now it looks like real one. Good job. Start massive production. 😎

@nihari_pops4890

3 ай бұрын

😂

As the biggest tire company, they decided not no make another wider tire for this set…lol

You are spot on in you criticism and this change. Well done. 👍🏻

The issue with the rear tires is this - if they went to the trouble of designing two wheel sizes for this set, that would allow them to easily made more famous F1 car from the 1970-2000s era within the same product line. Seems to me like a win-win solution, they introduce two new fairly universal wheels within one set and said set gets to be much more accurate.

@BusaNZ1340

3 ай бұрын

Could have been used for other classic race cars as well, like Le Mans sports prototypes or Can-Am cars.

@CrazyChemistPL

3 ай бұрын

@@BusaNZ1340 I could totally see a Ford GT40 in the Icons line done like that.

@MrKlawUK

3 ай бұрын

Next year when they do a Ferrari and introduce wide rear tyres we’ll all buy extras to retrofit this model :)

@LorenzoC1980

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@McLuvinUK

2 ай бұрын

We could’ve had the iconic Red 5 Williams of Mansell to go alongside this McLaren 😢

oh mah god that is sooooo much better, i wish i could get the set with that because it is quite literally as perfect as it gets. Sadly its not possible so im getting the off road buggy since its cheap and has more functions but this set is definitely "iconic".

@NoahgotLEGO

3 ай бұрын

The set just released so you can still save up for it! Will be out for 2 years probably.

@ThuNder12805

3 ай бұрын

maybe...Do these sets become available on bricklink after getting retired? ​@@NoahgotLEGO

The wider rear tires definitely look better than all 4 being the same size.

They look SOOOOHHHH much better!! I hope someone makes an aftermarket set of these, perhaps even going so far as to make front and rear and include Goodyear printing lol

@mDaro

2 ай бұрын

I'd buy a set right now if there was a pre-order to fund it.

@gez13foto

2 ай бұрын

Same

Now fix the biggest mistake: The PRICE

@av_oid

3 ай бұрын

No, that’s all the stickers.

@rc-fannl7364

3 ай бұрын

@@av_oid How about combining this into "There shouldn't have been stickers for this price. Not for a display model

@LeMn680

3 ай бұрын

For this price, they should’ve made it all stickers

@av_oid

3 ай бұрын

@@LeMn680 building a model F1 car out of stickers layer by layer sounds like a “fun” challenge.

@adrianhjordan1981

3 ай бұрын

A licenced set (to McLaren, Senna Estate and Formula1 don't forget) and new parts. I think the price is about right.

There’s a piece on the Lego website which really goes to town about how accurate they tried to make the car - includes statements like “But like those McLaren engineers responsible for the 1988 original, Ann was determined to capture every tiny detail of this revolutionary design.” and “So how did she go about turning a life-sized car into a perfect miniature replica?” They might have captured a lot of the ‘“tiny” details but perhaps they should have focused more on the big stuff like the rear wheels.

I've been considering buying 2 more of the rear tyre parts; then cutting all of them down using a band saw and heat-welding 2 of them together, to make a wider unit

Awesome result! With these new rear tyres the car looks perfect! Well done!

The tires that you have put on there definitely look a lot better. Might be some modification to be done in the back to make it fit, but this is a good prototype version for now. Thanks for another great review, can’t wait to see your next reviews for the March wave!

I felt the same way when I first saw the similar sized tires. I prefer the wider, truer to scale one you modified. Thanks for sharing!

The new rear tyres look fantastic and how I wish Lego had made them in the first place. Thanks for showing us what could be done.👍👏

The lego model has the correct 6 spoke black wheel pattern that the MP4-4 used, thats pretty cool.

Thank heavens! Thank you. I've been pondering upgrades for the set

Well done. I really enjoyed your description of the lego decision making process!

Awesome job. The fans are doing the best work. I like your new tires. Really authentic. Keep up the good work. 😊

IMO this takes the set from a nice to have to a MUST have! great work!

Wow when you see the 2 pictures side by side the mod is amazing!!

Much better with the correct tyre sizing, great job

Your modified version looks 100x better. Would love to get those files.

Great work. It is the wild to see the writing on the wall of a company to see such cuts in quality and price compared of a metal die cast for the same price

Way better look. As always, your builds and opinions are greatly appreciated.

Big big difference! Great job.

I fully agree with you on rear tires. And now I agree even more. Because with wider ones bolide looks just magnitudes better!

Great work brother! Looks so much better

It will be great to have an upgrade set with floor , wheels and tires according with your findings . Good job!

Looks fantastic after the fix! 👏

Rest in peace, Ayrton Senna

No, not letting Lego off the hook for this. Its a VERY icon vehicle and is recognizable by even the most casual of race fan. Also its Lego. Were not talking about some knock off/Off brand company, they can afford to develop a part so the build ends up looking the best it can be. If they're going to take the time and effort to put something like the Mp 4/4 together, do it properly. Down to the last brick. Thanks for sharing.

I completely agree with you! You did it justice!

Much better, when someone does tyres as a kit to upgrade Ill be buying them !

Lego is really getting lazy.Past couple of years their car models are nowhere near as good as used to be,except some of the Technic sets.Agree on the stickers,over £100 all sets should be fully printed.

Love it, great mod, I would also make a decal to fix the shape of the front monocoque to add but more red, but the wheel is perfect with your design… hopefully they get made and sold

Much better with your changes! Lego should adopt it

I can't wait to buy them online! It looks soo much better! ❤️

Awesome job 👏🏼

It looks so much better. I’ve already preordered but I wish it looked like this.

Much prefer your upgrade!! Great work!

I love the new rear tires, makes the set look much better!

The Wider rear wheels + the rear floor change does a lot to make it more closer to the actual look of the MP4/4.

That is a great job!

WoW! Good Job! I have removed the set from my wish list due to the rear tires.

Great video, didn't even realise these were same part until just now (only ordered kit online!). I agree 100% that rear tyres should be wider, it's iconic of the formula 1 cars of that area. I hope someone can search up an item even from another toy or model set of any kind so people can have quick and easy replacement/upgrade.

I noticed the tire width issue right when I unboxed mine. If you ever start producing these I would buy them in a second! That fixes the look 100%.

The modification looks way better. Thanks for doing the video

I really love the set as it is, but I can't deny that seeing it with wider wheels makes me like it a whole lot more. I'll be looking to make a similar modification once I get the set :)

I fully agree with you! It looks so better with wider rims!

That was quick!

It is much better now! I agree 100%!

Amazing work, looks better with wider tires

Such a tiny thing, but it changes the look of this model from a kids toy to an authentic replica. Well done on putting in the effort to do this - Certainly if I ever bought this kit, I would be looking for aftermarket rear tyres just so it looked as beautiful as the MP4/4 does.

I didn't think it looked too bad in original form until I saw how much BETTER it looked with the modified tyres! Nice job

I will probably order this, even with the awful rear wheels! Hope you decide to release the 3D printed wheel files as it sure looks a lot better with them!

I think that is a great idea and adds a much needed detail to this set. A lot of performance cars have staggered wheel sizes but has lego ever issued a set with two different wheel sizes or alternate wheels in a kit?

I hope this video gives your idea more traction.

Thank you very much!

I love the mod good job on even the rough one

very cool man! i love your vids - when will you do the new speed champions videos

@RacingBrick

3 ай бұрын

Working on them right now

I honestly was able to look past it until this video. It’s so so much better with the right tires. I wish really wish you’d sell us the file. I want to have this mod done for when the set is delivered to me

In F1 car, expecially when/if the car is a legend itself, the rear wheels MUST be larger than the front wheels. Period. Quite opposite well done LEGO. I placed my (pre)order on day one because it is the Mp4/4 and because well, because is one of the Senna's car and "she" one of the best F1 cars in history with an incredible number of victories. It's really a shame that for such an iconic and legendary car model they didn't put that little extra effort into creating two different sets of tires for the front and rear. Enthusiasts have been asking for slick tires for so long that seeing them produced in one size only is truly disheartening. Unfortunately, even for the new 2024 Mercedes Technic 1:8 the slick tires will be the same front and rear...

@ferrari2k

3 ай бұрын

F2?

@FrancescoFrangioja

3 ай бұрын

@@ferrari2k typo error, I'm sorry

Looks waaayy better now.. In my opinion, only the print on the front nose part (next to the front windshield) should be running into a triangle, and i think this set is done 👌

Excellent and balanced review. Easy fix for anyone with access to a printer. There will probably be a file on thingy-verse in a few weeks. LEGO obviously had to avoid the full Marlboro ciggie box paint job for multiple reasons.

Looks much better with the wider rear tires. Hope someone makes more of them to upgrade and improve this LEGO set.

The wider tires make it look so much more authentic! Good job 😊 When will Lego follow?

Lego should have made the rear tyres wider. Your efforts have worked out well! Cheers

congratulations on the modification, it is actually much more faithful to the original and with perhaps better quality plastic wheels it would be perfect! However, I don't mind even with the same size wheels, but in the end we are talking about Lego so if it can be improved then it can be done!

It's simple LEGO, make 2 proper sizes for F1 cars of this scale, and produce a ton of F1 cars. I guarantee they will sell.

100%, you nailed it. My other complaint with this set is that the green and blue stripes on Senna's helmet are not in the correct locations.

Wide rear wheels looks spot on!

Looks 100x better with your mod, I hope someone starts selling this as a kit

Looks much better, let us know when it goes on sale!

Looks so much better! I still don’t like the gray pieces on the wheels though. I took those off of mine and painted the axle tips black.

It looks considerably better with the modification added. Hopefully someone does a tyre and wheel mod coupled with a Marlboro sticker or printed kit, it will make the car look so much better.

awesome choice

Yep, that looks a lot better! I have already pre-ordered the set (mostly just to get the Classic Space GWP), but when I get it I will certainly look for some better rear tires. And hopefully for some better printed part for the nose, with the Marlboro-chevron.... It's a shame that a company like Lego, while claiming "Only the best is good enough" and ever increasing their already pretty high prices, keeps cutting corners. I kinda wish Cobi would have made this set, as it would have been so much better...

Lego needs to hire you NOW

@essa6315

3 ай бұрын

They did

I just want the Minifig- the car is just gravy. Looks like a fun build which is why I do Lego. Final result is pretty good (FAR from perfect- but don't care). If can can get wider rear tires someday I will- if not, no big deal.

@jackmurray7093

3 ай бұрын

I thought i was the only one who read all of the comments and thought wow all these adults were so upset over building blocks. Since when did Lego claim they made IDENTICAL scale model replicas to these cars? Taking shit too serious 😂

Definitely looks better with the wider rear wheels.👍🏼 Will still buy the set cos it’s awesome, F1 and Lego.🤓

Well that makes a huge difference, i have ordered the set and its something i might have to look into doing as well. Would it be a cost thing? DO you think if you asked Lego they would give you some feedback as to why they did this? Great Job, keep up the great content!

I have older formula technic set(8445) from 1999, so I will try use these wheels for rear wheels and wheels from Camaro Z/28 for front wheels. This combo will work good too, if you want use Lego parts. Maybe custom Lego parts in metalic color, example from Chrome Block City.

I have one of these kits preordered and if/when the wider tires are made by a 3rd party I will definitely be getting them. looks 100x better

At the start of the video I didn't think it would make that big of a difference. I knew how big the difference entire width was but I still thought it looked fine. But once you showed off the improved rear tires, I was sold. It's clear how big the difference is.

very good idea ! the result is much better! do you share your stl ?

When I saw it I felt something was wrong but didn't exactly know what. Now I finally know

Aww. If I had room for a 3D printer I would have just found a reason to buy one. I still think the front (the whitish print on red) need improving, but it's getting close.

I was okay with the 4 same wheels at first, but with the mod it does look a lot better! Maybe I buy it when someone sell these tires...

Nice bit of research, and the tires are definitely an improvement. Too bad the inaccuracy of the tires extends to all of the other themed F1 cars. Really unfortunate given how much work/design/authenticity is already put into the Technic/Speed Champion themed vehicles.

Wow! That wider wheel makes all the difference in the world. Please do this swap for the Technic Mercedes-AMG F1 too, or even better use the wheels from the Alfa Romeo from CaDA ;).

I agree with you, though Lego is awesome the wheels should have been to spec… but it was cheaper to use the same mold for all 4 tires. good job!!!

Much better! Share those files man :)

I wish there will be two reviews per day as 1st of March is not far away

Soooooo much better. I still think the nose yells "MP4/8," but the big tires really help.

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Great job on showing us how it should have been. I would love to know how anybody at TLG or at McLaren could have agreed with the halfbaked sollution the designers came up with.

I’m with you. Looks way better with the wider wheels. I cannot believe someone at Lego or the licence partner signed off on that design.