You should have chenged names displays to show hos unique ID. Nickname can be changed.

The one thing I did notice is that he broke every 1+2 throw while pressing 1+2 for exactly 1 frame every time, but everything else looked like it could have made sense. Although lows were a little odd but they werent always blocked after specific intervals but couldve been adapted to do so in the script (between 2-4 frames after your low input each time)

Wow its nothing

The frames aren't telling much tbh, I've seen blatant ones, with constant 24/7 1frame punishers, insta-parries and blocks, but what's suspicious to me is that he's so bad, zero fundamentals and still manages to break all the throws and somehow blocks lows. Could be luck, but how far can someone get away with pure luck? Or maybe the cheats they use allow them to put a delay in a way that others can't tell they're cheating. Now you know the only way to deal with this is to block them, at least that feature is working as intended.

@tobiasvik3278

3 ай бұрын

Well that's Devil Jin, lol. You can be carried to that rank by just spamming gimmicky moves.

@themaplepony

3 ай бұрын

Note their Prowess. They suck at devil jin fundamentals because they're not a devil jin player, they're playing an alt character so their offense is garbage but they're blocking lows and breaking grabs at a Tekken King+ level. It doesn't look like cheating to me, if it is it's hidden well. The grab breaks don't come out instantly it seems they're just barely hitting them in time, and some of the lows you can kinda see them expecting the low even before you hit it. For the record this is why I think rank is bullshit and you shouldn't be made to fight people with double your prowess for even-rank stakes

@HeLL1Striker

3 ай бұрын

@@themaplepony Fair point. But hey, even if they suck at D.Jin, some fundamentals, like basic ones are missing , their backdash cancelling is non-existent. And I want you to notice why I used just backdash instead of kbd, because it's nowhere near the most basic back dash cancel any tekken player with some decent skill can do. Some things in tekken and fighting games in general go hand in hand. Like you can't be a god of blocking and breaking throws and you can't have a semi-decent back dash cancel, that's strange to me. And even if a character is not your main, some basic clues show you that said player is good or not, which isn't the case with this D.jin, regardless of other things. Again like I said, the frames do not really show anything suspicious, but movement is quite sus at that level. Just my opinion tho, I could be wrong lol

Ok when he blocked that db 3 there at the end that was kinda sus.

It's almost like we're seeing ghost AI online here, so...

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

Is ghost AI a good thing or a bad thing? lol this is an actual rank match on rank online bro haha

Seems like a fair match.

@KulaGGin

3 ай бұрын

It's not. He's 100% cheating. All the d/b presses were as soon as he starts attacking, it even matches 1-2 frames of rollback: the cheater presses d/b after 2-3 frames of the opponent attacking, because of networking: at the tick when Bryan presses the button the cheater doesn't have that info on his PC and only gets it after 1-2 frames and that's when he's pressing d/b. That never happened to me against normal players. It's theoretically possible, but then it's theoretically possible for me to get eaten by zombie squirrels who were infected by new species of cordyceps mushroom after I'm done writing this comment. The chances of that are comically low and probably not happening to anyone in this Universe.

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

@@KulaGGin Bro this comment made me laugh so hard! hahaha 🤣

are the macros in the room with us right now?

That's not macros, though. It's a bot that does inputs for you. Auto low block cheat.

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I meant bot, not macros. It auto blocks lows (unless the low was interrupting one of his strings) and breaks all throws (unless the throw is used for a punish). Thanks again for actually looking at the input commands and verifying it with me 💯

Should show the lows frame by frame so we can see that he blocks low the instant you input your attack more clearly. Definitely suspect tho lol

@KulaGGin

3 ай бұрын

KZread has frame by frame feature. It's on the coma and dot keys in the English layout. I went frame by frame. All d/b inputs are as soon as Bryan starts attacking.

@jdizzle1779

3 ай бұрын

@@KulaGGin I didn't know that thanks. Ok then definitely a cheat then

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

@@KulaGGin Killing it with the KZread facts!

So, at 2:04 you hit him with a raw low that he could have canceled his backdash to block. So, I don't think he's using any sort of cheat to block lows. He breaks the 1+2 throw at around frame 17~18 after it connected, which for a player who trains reaction breaks is pretty standard. At 2:47 he's holding downback while getting up, not on reaction to anything. The timing is perfectly consistent with his previous getup attempt when you caught him with the otg string. Seems like you probably could have exploited him by doing a cd cancel into a low. He likely would have held down back, then stood up and ate the low.

@greyalice

3 ай бұрын

Also 25 frames to break the throw at 3:18 so I sincerely doubt this is a script or bot.

Where are the cheats exactly???

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

You can see on his input commands. He is breaking all of my throws and blocks all lows instantly (besides the ones where he is getting out poked). I have more matches with him but those were too embarrassing to post haha

@kaizafoxmusic

3 ай бұрын

Them 1-2 frame low reactions

@dnzu

3 ай бұрын

@@nelly007 ah ok. u are the judge. if u think so. sometimes lows can look instantaneous due to rollback. usually in example of throwbreaks can show that besides throwbreak input he pressed same time other buttons but script took over. like there is throw break and 3 or 4 input or whatever after it or similar time. or 1 break together with 3 or 4 or 3+4.

i didn't understand, why is he cheating?

Where is the cheat??

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

If you look at all of my grabs, he breaks them all (besides the ones that are punished). And he blocks all lows instantly. You can see it on his input commands. I have another match with him and it’s outrageous!

@tiutech3994

3 ай бұрын

The very last one hitting after the round is the icing.

@DanteHikato

3 ай бұрын

That last one was unbreakable though..

This isn’t enough info to be cheating man. The inputs still make sense.

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

I can’t upload the entire set. The latest patch won’t let me. Trust me. There are a few sus frame perfect low blocks every time

@Haetora

3 ай бұрын

Lmao, just trust me bro​@@nelly007

@Chiptunejazz

3 ай бұрын

It's what isn't there thats fishy. check how many times this guy actually hits a block input, and when it is input, what bryan is doing when he does block. For example why is he hitting block every time Bryan jabs at 0:30 not concrete, but a 9 out of 10 on the sus scale

@sayaman89

3 ай бұрын

​@@Chiptunejazzhe's Just backdashing, ffs

@Chiptunejazz

3 ай бұрын

Yeah you right. The timing and spacing of those back inputs and brains presses threw me for a loop.

Broo. This guy's not cheating. He's just better. It's an off character for him.. 250k prowess is what? Tekken King or Emperor? The reason he was blocking everything is cause you didn't mix him up enough. Way more hatchets were needed. You just need more work. Your Bryan looks a lot like mine and I know for a fact my Bryan is not very good. But you are doing good. Grind them out fundamentals. :) But this guy is a 100% not cheating.

Yeah there was no cheat, you hit him with two lows in round 3. Real cheaters look very different to this.

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

dude, the lows hit in the 3rd round because it interrupted his attack. watch the replay again and let me know what you see

no offense but he's just better bro. you probably don't know the match up, you haven't properly punished any of DVJ's moves. he even did tech traps and you didn't evade them. you're also doing risky moves.

Idk if hes cheating. Someone breaking all your throws isnt always a sign of cheating. And i wish you would of experimented more with poking low before saying "hes cheating" This aint enough evidence mate..

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

This dude has too many tekken power (over 240k) to still be Fujin. Not only that, he does the same moves over and over. I didn’t know the match up so I didn’t properly punish. And you can also see from his commands! Lmaooo

@DanteHikato

3 ай бұрын

@nelly007 sorry for late response. But you can have a high tekken power if your main is actually a higher rank. Which would explain why he's breaking all your throws I'm at tekken god rank and all my characters are at flame ruler. And I often get called a cheater for breaking grabs. Knowing matchups. Etc.

@kornymunky3157

3 ай бұрын

@@DanteHikato The blocked lows are suspect. Especially at 1:37. Wakes up holding back, goes to down back for the perfect amount of frames. back to holding back as the attack is blocked.

@nelly007

3 ай бұрын

@@kornymunky3157 we played three games. I can’t upload them since the recent patch made it impossible see my replay and tips. He blocked every single low and broke every single throw. He didn’t do anything besides spam demons paw, one juggle, abuse that flying thing and rage art. He really is trash at tekken than he needed to cheat smh

Don't think he's a cheater. I have seen cheaters and this is not it.

A guy blocks some lows and breaks a couple of obvious throws: "he must be cheating!" Delete this video man...

hate to break it to you but this guy isn't cheating. he's kind of ass lmaoooooooooooo

damn they need to fix this

Last one hitting at 4:45 right when the round is over makes it suspect.

@Azteck9

3 ай бұрын

But if you grab someone in an Armored state it makes that sound showing that the throw is untechable

The last one hitting makes it obvious.