Great review, thanks 😊

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

You have the Narwal and the S7. I have been debating between these two. I liked the S7 because it does both the mopping and vacuuming at the same time. What would you say is better for a hardwood floor? I am going to be making this purchase very soon just debating between these two systems.

Great review. I’d like to know where you guys buy the accessories for this unit? I’ve been looking in Amazon but haven’t found anything.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

The Auto Empty Dock and Accessories have not been released yet in the US. It should be released this month.

The bag is kinda interesting, the prototypes they showed off I thought were cyclone designs. I wonder if they bumped into a Dyson patent (even though other standard vacs have their own cyclone units).

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder the same thing, however they have an option for bagless with their H7 cordless stick vacuum which is similar to the Dyson ones. Roborock is aware that most people want bagless, so there must be a good reason, however they are not really saying. I have asked.

@mil3761

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's region specific but this version can be used both bagless and with bag: www.geekbuying.com/item/Roborock-Auto-Empty-Dock-automatic-suction-station-for-Roborock-s7-461162.html

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@@mil3761 It is regiin specific.

Thank you for the review. I think, I don't really need the auto empty dock, because if the S7 regularly vacuums my apartment, there is not much dust every time in the dust container. So emptying it once a week is more than enough. Unfortunately there is still no solution to refill the water tank. Would be nice, if this could be automated.

@xeon2k8

3 жыл бұрын

In my case i also empty the bin once a week but even then i would wish that lasts longer to make it feel that it's more "automated" and needs less maintenance, though i think you cannot escape from cleaning the rubber brush weekly anyways.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I have carpet in most of my house and 3 cats so mine fills up quickly. My wife also runs the vacuums so it is often hard to know when they are full. Keeping the bin empty will give the best results because as the bin fills up you are losing air flow. My in-laws actually need this as they have dogs and can't keep thie dustbin empty.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@Ariel And clean the filter. I am very curious how well this will do keeping the dust bin filter in the S7 clean.

@ricke95126

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews I need to see it clean out a robot bin full of hair, carpet fiber, the type of material that binds together and keeps other auto empty bins from evacuating the contents of other Robot vacuum bins everybody put Skittles and rice which doesn't represent real-world debris that you would find on carpets, got said it looks promising my other issue is durability of the rubber brushes and the issues they seem to have with pet tumbleweeds hair and small surface debris on top of carpet

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricke95126 I plan on doing that exact thing. I normally shy away from those synthetic test, because they are far from real life. Unfortunately doing it the right way takes more time. Stick with me and I will report back my findings very soon! Thanks for watching!

nice review bruh

@jamie.andrews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi I see that you have also the T10 Can you tell what the best mopping between the T10 to the Roborock S7? Also video on it will be nice

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, the are both good, but the S7 is better overall for tough stains. The software with Roborock is far superior. Watch this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2qgzpp9aNnMfaQ.html

Considering that the new dustbin that comes with the auto empty bin does not have the plastic piece that partially blocks the filter like the original dustbin that came with the S7, I wonder if there is more airflow when vacuuming.

@wesfishcare

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought. Maybe a little more

@alexleon8406

3 жыл бұрын

@@wesfishcare this would be good for vacuumwars to measure the airflow.

@wesfishcare

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexleon8406 absolutely

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great question and one I had not thought of. I am going to see if I can test that. I hate the piece of plastic on the dustbin as hair always gets stuck there between it and the filter.

@alexleon8406

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews can't wait to see the results.

For some strange reason it's a bag-only system in the US, but the EU model can also be used bagless.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

From my understanding it has something to do with the FCC.

@felinequeen9243

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews Another excuse for them to force you to buy bags, a now-required accessory. The Shark IQ auto-emptying robotic vacuum cleaner is bagless and it sells in the USA and Canada.

Was excited about this but the bag is a deal breaker for me. It’s 2021. Come on guys!

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I hear ya! Hopefully Roborock does too!

Doesnt shark self emptying one have HEPA filter?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

Not that I am aware of.

Can you trick it and bypass using the bag??

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I would not reccomend it because there is no pre-filter. You will likely clog the main filter real quick.

Put an S5 Max on it to see if it is vacuumed empty. Why is the plastic insert without a filter not included?

@xeon2k8

3 жыл бұрын

how is the s5max going to even work if it wasnt designed for that, no air inlet on the case, no inlet on the bin, has bristles roller, it probably doesnt even fit on the station parking zone.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I am not sure you can even run it without the S7 on the dock because the only way to start it is with the app. I am not certain why the plastic piece is not there unless it is to help with airflow.

@kylek29

3 жыл бұрын

@@xeon2k8 re: Air Inlet - It could just suck through the standard airflow (reverse through the filter). If the suction was strong enough, it wouldn't be much of an issue. The real problem is the size difference. The S7 has a slightly wider roller, iirc. If I can get ahold of one of these, I may play around with it. The triggering software can be faked (simple HW/SW project). It's the suction seal to the bottom of the vac that has to be accounted for.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@@kylek29 Also keep in mind the brush roller design is different with other models and the roller spins when it is emptying with the S7 and it also appears the vacuum motor is spinning in reverse to help push, although this is hard to confirm. None of these things would be possible on another RR. I think the biggest thing (like you mentioned) is the floating brush roller is different on the S7 allowing a tight seal to the dock. Without that seal and without a spinning brush roller I am not sure how you would get debris out of another model into the dock.

Hi Jamie is it automatic clean hair from roller

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

From the main part of the roller yes. You still get some wrapped around the axle so you will need to pull the ends off every so often to clean them.

@fahmidaafrose2525

3 жыл бұрын

Then it is not full auto I must say if I have to pull those dirt in my hand

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahmidaafrose2525 I am not aware of and robot vacuum that does not have this issue. Even other ones with auto empty docks.

Will you do a full review of it?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

You bet I will! Just as soon as I can thoroughly test it out. Make sure you subscribe and hit that bell icon for notification. It should be very soon. Thanks for watching!

How autoempty works when u put some dirt in?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I just released a video showing those results. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6aMps2In67AfbA.html

Does the robot know when its dustbin is full?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

No, atleast not the S7. I assume it could be a feature of future models.

@HiNickCares

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews how does it know when to empty the dust bin?

@xeon2k8

3 жыл бұрын

@@HiNickCares on the smart option i would say it counts the square meters it ran through and after certain threshold it turns on the bin.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

It does not know as it does not have a senor in the S7 to tell you it is full. Every time it goes back to the dock it empties the bin. If you need it more often just schedule a few rooms and then an hour later schedule a few more.

@HiNickCares

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews Can the robot be programed to empty after a set time of operating?

Is this your favorite mop and vacuum robot?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

So far I would have to say yes! Full review coming soon!

Sorry my English is not so good. My information are, that it came without dust bags. That was the reason why I wait for it.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

It comes with 2 bags to get you started.

Hi there! Do you have any contact info? Email?

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! My contact info? It is on the channel.

So no auto refilling the water? 😔

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

No this the an auto empty bin for the vacuum only.

@PacoZafra

3 жыл бұрын

I was also looking for the autorefilling dock... very dissapointing

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

@@PacoZafra They may release a mop in the future. Have you seen the Narwal T10?

@PacoZafra

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews I choose S7 because I thought the empty dock will also refill the water tank. I am very happy with S7 but refilling tank is a very annoying task. Didn't know about the Narwal T10, it looks fantastic!

Roborock pisses me off with only offering the bagged system in the US. They offer a version on the EU that can be used with our without the bag. And, in China the only version offered is bagless only. But, it seems in the US they want to fleece us for every cent and will only offer a system that REQUIRES a bag! So, we have to continue buying bags and creating more waste... I want to buy an EU version but haven't figured out how as of yet.

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I understand your frustration, but keep in mind the FCC dictates some things they must do with their products.

@shanew7361

2 жыл бұрын

More big government stepping on the little people for power and control. 🤮

Hmm no bagless...then I won't buy it...pretty simple...was excited for it but it appears ill just have to buy the bag/bagless one from China and use that, shouldnt be too hard

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

I understand your frustration. Keep in mind the one from China may not work software with with out S7. That is my main concern.

@ratcliffe1992

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews Ahh after a bit more research it appears that the EU version will be the bagless one, so not as worried anymore! Glad I can import it in from EU to Australia haha!

@T_aus_B_an_der_Spree

3 жыл бұрын

@@ratcliffe1992 www.geekmaxi.com/de/vakuum-zubehoer-intelligent-dust-collector-auto-empty-dock-automatic-suction-station-for-roborock-s7-robot-vacuum-cleaner-1729.html I don't know if the deliver to Australia but it looks the version without a dust bag

Yeah, 300€ for self emptying? Sorry but thats a waste of money. I have the roborock s7, but no hell on earth I am paying 300 for this plastic can

@jamie.andrews

2 жыл бұрын

It is not for everyone.

@Aleskoo100

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews hey quick question. Is the mopping pad safe to clean in the washing machine? It says on the mop pad by hand but I just noticed, even thoug I have a cleaning agent it doesnt remove all the brown stains from it

@shanew7361

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aleskoo100 Yes fine for washing machine

@Aleskoo100

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanew7361 thank you👌

DO NOT ever buy a Roborock unless you want to be stuck with useless junks after just one or two years! The Roborock might be a good vacuum in terms of its functionality and features, but it has an extremely horrible and almost non-existent warranty. I have a Xiaomi that I bought about 2 years ago. It was working great keeping my whole house clean. Our whole family loved it. All of sudden, it started to have Error 13 and stopped being fully charged. So I decided to contact the Xiaomi support. They first made the pretense of checking if it was a problem with the charging contacts, making you take ten thousand photos to email them and then finally decided that it was the problem with the robot itself. And then they just toss you off to the dealer that you bought the unit from and have nothing to do with you. It was a dealer on eBay that I bought it from who is located all the way in Beijing and had no English support and according to my research was even fined for having falsified information. I contacted them several times via numerous phone calls, emails to both the dealer and Xiaomi support itself and no avail. They have stopped responding to my emails and refusing to speak with me. I have spent $600+ on the robotic cleaner and just after 2 years, it's now useless junk. And this is Roborock's strategy. They would rather spend $$ on people to promote their products (and this is why you see roborock reviewers popping up everywhere on KZread) than on after-sale support because they know their product is crap and they want to make you keep spending money to buy their products and that's how they make money. If they built a reliable product that never breaks and with excellent after-sale support that are ready to repair and replace the product for you throughout its life, then they will make less money and to them, it's not acceptable. It's not enough that they force you to keep buying their accessories by giving you those indications on the robot to constantly tell you how badly you need to replace them no they have to make faulty products to force you to buy new ones. Yeah I will buy new ones all right, but it won't be another Xiaomi or Roborock that's for sure. And this is truly Buyer Be Aware. This is what you can get from buying Chinese products in general. Fancy product but no support. And not to mention that they keep all of your private data down to the username, password and MAC address of your wireless modem, the floorplan, layout and square footage of your home on their server permanently.

@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed

2 жыл бұрын

Repairing an error 13 is less than 10-30 bucks aka less than the consumibles you likely buy in 12 months, it's a normal thing that could happen with use

@felinequeen9243

2 жыл бұрын

@@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed Yeah if you know how. Otherwise you have to spend $100+ PLUS components to send your Xiaomi to this unauthorized repair shop in Europe to repair it and assuming that that repair place is really going to repair it for you. I checked it. It's basically $600+ down the drain for me at this point.

@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed

2 жыл бұрын

@@felinequeen9243 well, there are tutorials, and it's really easy, no soldering for anything not serious really and a mobo is like 40€

I'm confused, I saw this website that clearly says the auto empty dock can be used bagless or with a bag (both options are available with the same product): www.geekbuying.com/item/Roborock-Auto-Empty-Dock-automatic-suction-station-for-Roborock-s7-461162.html

@jamie.andrews

3 жыл бұрын

They make different versions for different regions. The US model linked in the video description is only a bag model.

@mil3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie.andrews Great, thank you for the explanation. Shame the US model doesn't get the dual option like the EU version. Having a switchable option seems to be best for customers based on what they want.

@felinequeen9243

3 жыл бұрын

That is a piece of crap. Not paying for bags just to empty some vacuum cleaners. They charge you enough for all the accessories that they constantly push you to replace and be aware that their batteries apparently will run out in 1 year. Mine lasted 2 years. See my comment above.

@mil3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@felinequeen9243 maybe you got unlucky. My existing one's battery is still going strong after many years. I've not had to replace any accessories with mine either. Side brushes, main brush and filters do need replacing every now and again but that is considered normal and expected. It's like buying a car and never expecting the brake pads to need replacing.

@felinequeen9243

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mil3761 Buying a product shouldn't be like throwing a dice, first of all. But what I want to bring to people's attention is the non-existent after-sale product support or warranty. This is not an issue of just a simple replacement. This is a product that is not working at all after just 1 to 2 year and the manufacturer refuses to service it or replace it for you. Imagine you buy a car and it breaks down completely that you can't drive it at all and the dealer that you bought the car from or the manufacturer refuses to service it and you basically have to buy a new car. That's what happened to me and many Roborock buyers. Error 13 is a very common problem with Roborock. Once it happens, you can't use it at all. It's not me who's unlucky. It's you who just happened to have lucked out IF you are telling the truth. Read my story below or above this comment and you will see. I basically spent $600+ to have bought a vacuum cleaner that's now completely not usable after just 2 years. So that's the true cost of the vacuum cleaner. Don't be fooled by its lower price than the competition. It's actually more expensive because of its unreliability.