First Impressions: Catalinbread Softfocus FX40 and Boss Slicer SL-2

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It's been too long, but here we are again with two unmarked, unopened boxes from Sweetwater (Thank you Sweetwater)! Nick is at the helm today, so you know this episode is going to be filled with mystery and magic.
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  • @douchecraft3113
    @douchecraft3113 Жыл бұрын

    Josh could build a small 2-story house using Sovtek amps as bricks

  • @michaeldoerksen2841

    @michaeldoerksen2841

    Жыл бұрын

    And when showing off his house he'd still avoid talking about them 😆😆😆

  • @mykhedelic6471

    @mykhedelic6471

    Жыл бұрын

    The house that SOVTEK built. That and some glass block.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @bri-fihacksaw7215

    @bri-fihacksaw7215

    Жыл бұрын

    They did an entire episode in Sovtek amps?

  • @TheRealcdawg22

    @TheRealcdawg22

    Жыл бұрын

    ...with BOSS compact series shingles.

  • @franksaldana6570
    @franksaldana6570 Жыл бұрын

    As soon as Nick maxed out the settings on the soft focus and played a chord I went to sweetwater and bought one 😂

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    💪🏼

  • @juggalo7718
    @juggalo7718 Жыл бұрын

    this show makes me want to have every pedal in the world

  • @Eliphas_Elric

    @Eliphas_Elric

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why I had to stop regularly watching lol. Spent WAAAY too much money on pedals.

  • @titussardonicus338

    @titussardonicus338

    Жыл бұрын

    You're too late. Josh already has them.

  • @Aidan.w
    @Aidan.w Жыл бұрын

    I was surprised that Josh didn't review the slicer as soon as it came out. When some of the more obscure pedals come out its almost like they're too mysterious to fully understand until Josh has explained it in his own words lol.

  • @JonathanHyattVerified
    @JonathanHyattVerified Жыл бұрын

    Glad to have you guys back! Drillers bass sounds awesome.

  • @-jank-willson

    @-jank-willson

    Жыл бұрын

    Where tf is Josh

  • @Mr.D34
    @Mr.D34 Жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad that you guys got my "Silky Johnson hate mail" 😀 I hope you enjoyed it, love you guys 😀

  • @danielcarter3928
    @danielcarter3928 Жыл бұрын

    the soft focus is my favorite reverb pedal i’ve ever had! it’s epic even with the mod and symph down for a more basic reverb too

  • @PasiFourmyle
    @PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын

    The harmony on that stinger is freaking amazing! ❤

  • @robertlewis5439
    @robertlewis5439 Жыл бұрын

    "Duty" is short for duty cycle, as Ran Zer noted in chat. Duty cycle is the ratio an intermittent system (such as the slicer or tremolo or transistor or pulsed radar or PWM signal, etc) is on versus the time it is off.

  • @jmd76family
    @jmd76family Жыл бұрын

    Candy!!!! Glad to see your impressions of boss slicer

  • @davedoubleddykhuizen
    @davedoubleddykhuizen Жыл бұрын

    I had a Yamaha FX500 back in the early nineties: that patch was one of the too few highlights. And even in bypass it would lop about 10db off your signal. After a year or so of frustration and the impression that someone had thrown a moving blanket over my amp, I unloaded it and went back to analog pedals.

  • @hoover728

    @hoover728

    Жыл бұрын

    'With its roots in that patch, the Catalinbread Soft Focus is intended to be an instant shoegaze button, while addressing the most glaring issues of the original unit: no mix control, a sub-par preamp, and a ghastly tone-sucking bypass signal.'

  • @bloodromance4776
    @bloodromance4776 Жыл бұрын

    Boss Slicer is one of the most underrated pedal of all time. It have sooo much potential to be a classic but no one use it the way it needed to be used

  • @SeattleGenXDude

    @SeattleGenXDude

    5 ай бұрын

    Needs to be used in stereo to even understand it

  • @StuffnSuch

    @StuffnSuch

    2 ай бұрын

    What way does it need to be used?

  • @maxwellblakely7952
    @maxwellblakely7952 Жыл бұрын

    I love the 3 series reverb, it’s a fantastic pedal. I did not love the 3 series OD until I depowered by 3 volts via my MXR isobrick now it’s on a lot of the time!

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    woah, nice!

  • @Anjuroo
    @Anjuroo Жыл бұрын

    Killer jam on that Catalinbread SFX. They really nailed that unit I want one so bad.

  • @Suicaedere666
    @Suicaedere666 Жыл бұрын

    Everytime I purchase a used pedal now and they have the box I can't help but sing the "he has the box" tune hahaha

  • @joermnyc

    @joermnyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Was going through some gear I don’t use to sell on Reverb, sadly no box. But I did find the boxes for other gear I have that I didn’t remember keeping the box/getting with a box. So I went, “He has the box.”

  • @mattymoyouknow202

    @mattymoyouknow202

    Жыл бұрын

    Next you have to buy the shirt

  • @baddesigner
    @baddesigner Жыл бұрын

    that first jam with the SoftFocus was everything. x

  • @JorgeLetria
    @JorgeLetria Жыл бұрын

    nice see catalinbread getting some love :)

  • @myeyesarewaiting
    @myeyesarewaiting Жыл бұрын

    Nick is my style guru. Nice chord progressions today!

  • @COWBOYBARNMAN
    @COWBOYBARNMAN Жыл бұрын

    I used the Soft Focus pedal on the song TROUBLE by Coldplay. It really sounds beautiful! Yesterday I ordered the Cloudburst pedal from Sweetwater. I should have it tomorrow. I'm so excited!

  • @markstowe9011
    @markstowe9011 Жыл бұрын

    Not to take away from the awesome jams, and awesome pedals, and overall great production of the folks featured, but damn that 3 series phaser is hard to turn off. Any song I make or play eventually just gets phaser added to it and I’m glad Nick brought it out for the last jam. It’s so well voiced and just checks all the boxes for phaser

  • @MikeWh
    @MikeWh Жыл бұрын

    Dug out my FX500 from the 90s, new power supply, still works! Including my presets which I thought needed the button battery (which would have died many years ago...). The new pedal sounds very close, with a lot more easily accessible controls (no obscure menus).

  • @stevendavidson391
    @stevendavidson391 Жыл бұрын

    The CB Soft Focus maxed out sounds very Cocteau Twins

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Ugh. They're so good.

  • @rgerwin.3378
    @rgerwin.33787 ай бұрын

    I get pretty much the same sound out of my Wonderland Ambient Reverb and the Marianna modulated reverbs

  • @chrisrobleski1452
    @chrisrobleski1452 Жыл бұрын

    Super surprised you just discovered the Soft Focus! Wait till you get to Many Worlds!

  • @matthewwatt2295
    @matthewwatt2295 Жыл бұрын

    LOVE Nick's sweater 😍

  • @bud9269

    @bud9269

    Жыл бұрын

    Hat ain't bad either. And it just matched the tele sooooo nice. Looking so slick I think he should of been the thumbnail

  • @savoirfaire8979
    @savoirfaire8979 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see them working together with less friction.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't worry. Nick will annoy me soon enough and the old feud will return.

  • @alleygh0st
    @alleygh0st Жыл бұрын

    yeah I had to get that slicer - seemed like a good tool for the studio. Got it for what - a month? Wish I had one in early 2000s though would have been perfect for what I was doing. For now I use it as a fancy tremolo but the fun has barely begun.

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see Driller inducted into the JHS house band.

  • @robertschubert5127
    @robertschubert5127 Жыл бұрын

    That Slicer jam was way dope.

  • @gabepurpur
    @gabepurpur Жыл бұрын

    We need a JHS 3 series Jam Pal now.

  • @joshuadavidhill9602
    @joshuadavidhill9602 Жыл бұрын

    Soft focus belongs before dirt and drive buds

  • @SnaFOo75

    @SnaFOo75

    Жыл бұрын

    yep!

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Жыл бұрын

    Do a Catalinbread episode, I had a bunch of their pedals on my board for years! Still have the Dirty Little Secret (3 knobs and a tone switch version). And I have their Echorec for my bass board.

  • @harrisfrankou2368
    @harrisfrankou2368 Жыл бұрын

    I hear sorta augmented like an original I do...and an ad before the same. woke up groggy bizarre. I just got a belle echo and I need an A B Y pedal you guys recommend yours? I had a space echo stereo...this is weird your sound is my song on Piano and midi are you spies stealing my best stuff? Just curious asking for a friend

  • @numskul
    @numskul Жыл бұрын

    The SL2 is excellent if you use it with a signal blender to run the main signal parallel.

  • @bouzoukiman5000
    @bouzoukiman5000 Жыл бұрын

    There's a Slicer on the old Boss GT8 but it isn't nearly as musical. The SL2 sounds amazing

  • @nachobassman
    @nachobassman Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to hear that Boss Slicer on drums!!

  • @raytbrown2
    @raytbrown2 Жыл бұрын

    That last jam just needed lyrics . . . total vibe.

  • @Bimmer2047
    @Bimmer2047 Жыл бұрын

    That reverb sounds REALLY good into that kemper!! 😂

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    🤖

  • @nickp440
    @nickp440 Жыл бұрын

    For once i bought a pedal before JHS gave me the GAS for it. Slicer has been very fun to mess with

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    well done!

  • @amazeus1980
    @amazeus1980 Жыл бұрын

    Slicer rocks! I have it! 😜❤❤❤

  • @Joormode
    @Joormode Жыл бұрын

    That Jam 21:10 sounds like; build to spill - Carry the zero.

  • @cliftonwright7081
    @cliftonwright7081 Жыл бұрын

    Slicer sounds like the intro to Camera Eye off Moving Pictures

  • @therewasascene
    @therewasascene Жыл бұрын

    That tone in the intro was Maximum Rock, Nick

  • @onlyusernameleft2
    @onlyusernameleft2Ай бұрын

    The SL-2 is dope af. I could just let audacity record for hours while I mess around with it and have a dozen legit song ideas. If you ever experience creative block just start experimenting with it. It lends itself to out-of-the-box ideas and techniques. I had a defective fuzz pedal that I ran into a Boss GT-1 multi effects on a harmonist patch with the expression pedal bending pitch up an octave then into the slicer. Instant inspiration. There are also downloadable patches in addition to the stock ones. I think there are somewhere in the range of 8 expansion packs. I'd highly recommend it for anyone who makes electronic music and also plays guitar because you can make a lot of unguitarlike, synthesizerish tones.

  • @neurobits
    @neurobits Жыл бұрын

    The Boss It’s a gater. And it works wonders on synthesizers.

  • @shanice5722
    @shanice5722 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, nice sweater. Where did you get the super cool sweater?

  • @Topera.
    @Topera.21 күн бұрын

    Finally, after 24 years, I found out what effect John Frusciante uses at the end of Throw away your television!!!

  • @brainsplosion3000
    @brainsplosion3000 Жыл бұрын

    Nick: makes his guitar sound like economy 80s pads Addison: i will literally say anything sounds great

  • @stevesmith5434
    @stevesmith5434 Жыл бұрын

    If yer gonna do the Slicer, ya gotta do the DigiTech Time Bender! Underrated and still so cool!

  • @Mentalocrity
    @MentalocrityАй бұрын

    Watching this made me realize that it’s not Catalinabread but Catalinbread. My mind’s not exactly blown but it is weird I never noticed that.

  • @bmckee5430
    @bmckee5430 Жыл бұрын

    Almost positive Richard Buckner used the original Slicer on an album & I've wondered for years what it was. Has to be it.

  • @RasmusVolden
    @RasmusVolden6 ай бұрын

    Love my SL-20 ... Better get me the SL-2 as well !!

  • @erikavery8569
    @erikavery8569 Жыл бұрын

    I’m looking for the OG SL-20 for my BigBoard build.

  • @guygraham2580

    @guygraham2580

    Жыл бұрын

    The new one adds some valuable extra functionality, plus the single pedal size lets you either keep things compact, or add 1 or 2 extra expression and/or tap tempo switches in a more convenient place on your pedalboard - including using Gigrig type switcher, which can also be used with other pedals as a (admittedly not cheap) compact pedalboard control solution...including sending TRS MIDI to the SL-2, which really makes the pedal in relation to the way I prefer to use it. The MIDI implementation is basic, but incredibly useful when clocked from a synth running a sequence based on the drum/rhythm tempo + other control functions.

  • @ali2ndmail
    @ali2ndmail Жыл бұрын

    Souvlaki was released in 1993 in UK I believe….though feels like it should be earlier. I’d guess that band were using that sound already though prior to the album release (possibly as early as 1990?). Would love to see some more Catalinbread pedals reviewed. Maybe some of the less well known ones, as many seem to know the Belle Epoch and Dirty Little Secret.

  • @jamiewestergaard7452
    @jamiewestergaard7452 Жыл бұрын

    There you go - maybe an antique finish?

  • @jadedvets8579
    @jadedvets8579 Жыл бұрын

    Yay Gloria chords!

  • @LunaPaul77
    @LunaPaul77 Жыл бұрын

    I still think - they haven’t quite got the true Yamaha Fx 500 soft focus patch quite right. It seems to lack the depth or something. I found the Loomer pedal the same

  • @michaelsnydermusic
    @michaelsnydermusic Жыл бұрын

    The Slicer would be a great tool for song writing if you’re stuck in your same old rhythmic patterns.

  • @bloodromance4776

    @bloodromance4776

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it makes a really boring music sound unique

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 Жыл бұрын

    Who does the sound mixing on the jams?

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Mostly Addison!

  • @kevinhess9245
    @kevinhess9245 Жыл бұрын

    That is one he ** of a jam guys I wasn't sure how the second pedal would be applied ... but it was killer

  • @grandudetonesnob7107
    @grandudetonesnob7107 Жыл бұрын

    Guys... Stop trying to pretend that Josh hasn't moved to Japan to work for Boss. It's ok. We love you anyway. I hope this helps.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    😶

  • @ondrejtregler
    @ondrejtregler Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how does the Waza tuner tune better than just regular Boss tuner …or just literally any tuner.

  • @bud9269

    @bud9269

    Жыл бұрын

    It doesn't? But it has an improved buffer... or so the legend goes

  • @SignificanceOfThePassageOfTime

    @SignificanceOfThePassageOfTime

    Жыл бұрын

    You can also use it to power other boss pedals, if thats your thing.

  • @ramooninthemoon

    @ramooninthemoon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bud9269I thought it was true bypass lol

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    it doesn't, but our regular Boss tuner pooped out on us just before the show, lol.

  • @TheRealcdawg22

    @TheRealcdawg22

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Ramoon CG I think it is selectable, true bypass or buffered. It might have increased tuning sensitivity, I don't know..

  • @DrJeebles
    @DrJeebles Жыл бұрын

    I always miss the live streams somehow. That's a pretty cool dynamic with those three on instruments. You guys should incorporate Driller more often. Maybe two guitars or two basses? I would say get everyone involved, but I have a feeling all 40 employees at JHS are multi-instrumentalists.

  • @stevecraig7643
    @stevecraig7643 Жыл бұрын

    I can only say nick is a great drummer

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Truly

  • @squirelova1815
    @squirelova1815 Жыл бұрын

    There's hardly anything else (except Pray) I would rather be doing than watching Nick and crew at 'JHS Pedals' opening Sweetwater packages with a Hari Kari blade just before WW3.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @MegaRom1973
    @MegaRom1973 Жыл бұрын

    Greaaaaat!

  • @robertsimpson5801
    @robertsimpson5801 Жыл бұрын

    Guitar sounds a little soft in the jams, but great stuff as usual, gents!

  • @melodiccanvas
    @melodiccanvas Жыл бұрын

    Josh is in the thumbnail but I see no Josh on the video?

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    😈

  • @nickp440

    @nickp440

    Жыл бұрын

    we got bamboozled

  • @derekpalmer75
    @derekpalmer75 Жыл бұрын

    I think a sliced bread joke was missed by the team.

  • @andrew_hill_fine_tuned_twins
    @andrew_hill_fine_tuned_twins Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sweetwater 🎉❤😊 Also, tiny knife users of the world, UNITE!!

  • @bud9269
    @bud9269 Жыл бұрын

    Wo. That shoe gazy AF

  • @cannabineros
    @cannabineros10 ай бұрын

    you need to co ver the whole catalinbread range - very original idea pedals

  • @mattdoliver1984
    @mattdoliver1984 Жыл бұрын

    Is it a Marshall bluesbreaker reissue that Marshall are denying but Thoman are sending orders out?

  • @michaelmele4888
    @michaelmele4888 Жыл бұрын

    I want to hear the Catilinbread with the Slicer.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    go to the end!

  • @aurora3655
    @aurora3655 Жыл бұрын

    Why isn’t there more apparel with swans on it? Or even Canadian geese? My mother would love that.

  • @ZigbertD
    @ZigbertD Жыл бұрын

    Next time I go to the barber for a haircut, I'm going to ask him to give me a "trimlow".

  • @richardf.8412
    @richardf.8412 Жыл бұрын

    FWIW, I believe Miki Berenyi of Lush had an all Boss pedal board back in the day.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Boss is best!

  • @iandmasterson5360

    @iandmasterson5360

    Жыл бұрын

    Emma had a GP-16 rack unit that was forever breaking down.

  • @timharrington4470
    @timharrington4470 Жыл бұрын

    The last Is thing I need is another guitar pedal, But d*** I sure want a slicer.

  • @guygraham2580

    @guygraham2580

    Жыл бұрын

    If you can't bring yerself to even type out the most milquetoast of curse words, I doubt you'll ever get anywhere close to exploring the more jarringly choppy and extreme sounds from the SL-2 Slicer!

  • @lzryd
    @lzryd Жыл бұрын

    Soft Focus is an always on pedal.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @CarolMatzPiano
    @CarolMatzPiano Жыл бұрын

    MORE DRILLER!

  • @bldallas
    @bldallas Жыл бұрын

    Play “Life in a Northern Town” by Dream Academy. That first pedal is perfect for it. Or some Prefab Sprout.

  • @wilaustu
    @wilaustu Жыл бұрын

    The sound of the slicer is so 2000s to me.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    in a good way, right?

  • @wilaustu

    @wilaustu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhspedals Of course!

  • @scottallen9556
    @scottallen9556 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else getting the “wife who doesn’t want to be here” vibes from Josh the secretary? No?..it’s just me?

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait... lol.

  • @guygraham2580

    @guygraham2580

    Жыл бұрын

    I get the distinct vibe he's just sitting behind that laptop, quietly wondering how someone with such high educational achievements ended up answering emails from dumb guitar players? Joshua should move up north, preferably inside the Acela corridor - from whence the deep state elite is basically running the world, and getting paid handsomely for it! PS don't tell him about the cost of living, he may decide to stay put ;-)

  • @skatertrev7
    @skatertrev7 Жыл бұрын

    15:28 Getting down with the sickness

  • @jbert6793
    @jbert6793 Жыл бұрын

    This probably has been asked in the past (I’m late to the game)haha… what brand is your t-style guitar and what pickups are in it? That guitar sounds so good. Thank you.

  • @PAHVID

    @PAHVID

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a KC made Seüf OH-20. They wind their own pickups but not sure if that’s what he has in there.

  • @jbert6793

    @jbert6793

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PAHVID thank you

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    We used the Seüf Jazzmaster and Seüf Telecaster!

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    Pickups are Fralins!

  • @jbert6793

    @jbert6793

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhspedals killer tones. Thank you for all you do for the guitar community.

  • @sassulusmagnus
    @sassulusmagnus Жыл бұрын

    What kinds of shoes are appropriate for shoegaze? I would imagine that the kind of shoes worn might have a subtle affect on tone.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    i'm wearing luggz

  • @guygraham2580

    @guygraham2580

    Жыл бұрын

    Doc Martens or chunky boots from the Army Surplus...basically part of the uniform back then, plus much cheaper and sturdier than the nicest sneakers of the era!

  • @nachobassman
    @nachobassman Жыл бұрын

    Josh in the thumbnail pic for super effective clic-bait effect! 😂

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    We changed it! lol, cause like, you're right.

  • @nachobassman

    @nachobassman

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL… It wasn’t my intention, tho. 😅

  • @2manyhobbiezz
    @2manyhobbiezz Жыл бұрын

    👑Josh stepping away from the camera as often as he had been?

  • @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
    @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ Жыл бұрын

    Save every box forever

  • @iandmasterson5360
    @iandmasterson5360 Жыл бұрын

    Does this mean Catalinbread are going to do a range of pedals based on late 80s, early 90s rack unit patches? Next one best be a Alesis Quadraverb Chorusstrings pedal. Instant Verve/Nick McCabe for A Storm in Heaven sounds. Or a Quadraverb Taj Mahal patch pedal for Jeff Buckley.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @iandmasterson5360

    @iandmasterson5360

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhspedals You should do an episode on those old rack units. Midiverbs, Quadraverbs, Fx500, SPX90, GP8.

  • @brainsplosion3000
    @brainsplosion3000 Жыл бұрын

    if it's available currently at sweetwater, we all already know about it.

  • @mattcwatson
    @mattcwatson Жыл бұрын

    Driller’s bass lines tho.

  • @SLAP..
    @SLAP.. Жыл бұрын

    🤘 🤘

  • @dustinmcfarland2441
    @dustinmcfarland2441 Жыл бұрын

    I love tiny knife. tiny knife is my friend

  • @najeesimmons6648
    @najeesimmons66487 ай бұрын

    You just sold me the Boss Slicer.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    7 ай бұрын

    yes!

  • @JUNKO____
    @JUNKO____ Жыл бұрын

    THE Mike Jones?

  • @rodrigoavila4133
    @rodrigoavila4133 Жыл бұрын

    21:00 pre chorus of wrecking ball. “Don’t you ever say…” Miley Cyrus

  • @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ
    @SwirlyWhirlyXYZ Жыл бұрын

    Pencils: silicon vs germanium?

  • @jezmez68
    @jezmez68 Жыл бұрын

    FRIST impressions > FIRST impressions. Prove me wrong.

  • @jhspedals

    @jhspedals

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I was SAYING! But someone got on and changed it.

  • @catchofthedave8681
    @catchofthedave8681 Жыл бұрын

    I love how the pick a number.....people start spamming numbers like freakin crazy before you even get the number and the whole stream is spammed numbers like crazy for several minutes. even 5 mins later theres still numbers going.

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