See 5 neat rows of 9 civs in the selection screen is immensely satisfying

@rafalst

7 ай бұрын

Enjoy it before next expansion

@Darfail

7 ай бұрын

Now that you said it's 9 and not some decent number like 10 I am appalled

@flukislucas

7 ай бұрын

Howie Mandel has an app for you, its called NOCD

@fabiancampos4304

7 ай бұрын

It can turn to 6 rows of 8 next

@ArawnOfAnnwn

7 ай бұрын

​@@fabiancampos4304 Then 7 rows of 7. :D

This Mule Cart reminds of Nordic Civ in Age of Mythology, very cool

@PrasenjeetKumarAuthor

7 ай бұрын

Also the ger in aoe4 which is ... technically not the same but can also pack and move.

@totalmadnesman

7 ай бұрын

It is obviously derived from that ^^

@FirstnameLastname-py3bc

7 ай бұрын

But why Georgians and Armenians have them (settled civs in real life) and not Turk Seljuks, Mongols or other nomadic people

To preserve the nice Civ selection screen, we need another 9 civs added, obviously.

@bigbroarivus

7 ай бұрын

We gonna get Wales, Scottish, Irish, Cornwall, Brittany, Alemanni, Danes, Aragonese, and Naples.

@rx_kouhai7217

7 ай бұрын

aren't Scottish and Irish basically Celts?@@bigbroarivus

@BNK2442

7 ай бұрын

​@@rx_kouhai7217Aren't poles slavs?

@youcanthandlethetruth5433

7 ай бұрын

Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet

@anantbijolia8415

7 ай бұрын

​@@youcanthandlethetruth5433Tibet is so underrated. We deserve a Tibetan civ.

i am from georgia and i got in shock when they actually made this DLC

fortified monestary seems pretty busted with no stone cost. I could definitely see georgians being a top 5 civ if that isn't changed. They've got a pretty significant dark age eco benefit in the mule cart, a very strong castle age eco bonus with the fortified monasteries, and a very snowbally military bonus with the regenerating cav. Add a massive resistance to being raided via wood-only fortified monasteries and you've got a pretty potent recipe.

@Bloodark124

7 ай бұрын

Imagine Fortified monastery drops. villagers/fortified monastery deal with archers and then monks to deal with knights. All no cost to stone...

@andyw5962

7 ай бұрын

London to a brick it gets nerfed, probably with a stone cost

@AvelierPlays

7 ай бұрын

Maybe Fort Monastery cost should be 150 W and 50 S or 100 W and 100 S

@Predator20357

2 ай бұрын

Before the Victors and Vanquished Update, I would’ve laughed my head off with how far off the mark this prediction was. All of this OP stuff and yet a single food nerf in the beginning horrifically cripples the nation.

It feels weird to me that the donkey carts are built by villagers instead of created at the town center.

@not_milk

7 ай бұрын

Build a donkey workshop

@Tudsamfa

7 ай бұрын

I felt the same way, but this makes sense from a balancing perspective: You dont want them to compete with creating villagers for TC work time. Additionally, we dont want them to count towards the population limit, and the only other mule in game (that I can think of) is part of a building too. Though this does not register as building visually to me... They do take arson and building bonus damage, right?

@Tudsamfa

7 ай бұрын

@@booradley6832 well, donkeys aren't mules Checkmate, Spaniards! (Yes I forgot about them, my bad)

@Nomatterwhat69

7 ай бұрын

At the market would make more sense. Holy market ! Edit: those 2 civs can make markets in dark age, but they can't produce anything else than that here

@I_enjoy_some_things

7 ай бұрын

They shoehorned it instead of waiting for Age of Mythology :/

man Georgian castle design is my favorite is wonderful!

On the topic of deer, there were like 5 changes in the last update (September I think?), and one of them was moving deer further from the TC on arabia. It's been a pain for me, but honestly, I see why they did it.

The deer being farther away was a change. Hera really pushed for it to make it more of a sacrifice to push deer.

Khvica Kvaratskhelia will be proud of this DLC.

Hopefully they add West Virginia next. I really want a Mountain Mamma unique unit.

@ersatzvitamin1

7 ай бұрын

And Mississippi for the Mississippi Queen

@ihmpall

7 ай бұрын

Barracks produces - rdneck militia

@GunLobster

7 ай бұрын

I swear Florida is going to be the weirdest civ out there.

@morkaili

7 ай бұрын

Would be great for AoE3

@bigbroarivus

7 ай бұрын

​@@GunLobsterflorida gonna be a heavy cavalry archer but lacking archery range

I'm really excited for Georgians with their towers and cav once they come out. Food and wood will be an issue like Spirit stated, but that is something I can get used to in time. Towers and cav with castles are something I tend to gravitate to so playing these guys should feel comfortable for me compared to other civs.

Georgians have a strong AoE 4 French energy

@giorgibotsvadze6899

7 ай бұрын

and HRE mini Aachen Chapels with arrows

I was wondering when they were going to bring ox carts back!!! I loved them as a game mechanic for the Nordic nations in age of mythology

I like how you said GG to the AI such good sportsmanship

Fortified churches costing no stone just seems OP

This is the best update because the rows are now filled

Thanks Spirit, we always really enjoy your gameplays

Now that I am thinking, another strat with that wagon is quickly taking enemy boars and deers 1111

@Nomatterwhat69

7 ай бұрын

At least Georguans get -50 food, making it take more time to do it

@Ppharrer96

7 ай бұрын

I see pros scout their base with the cart while laming with the regenerating scout

the viper started doing some SOTL-like videos and SOTL started recording some viper-like videos 11

If SOTL can play without small trees, you can too

@holyn8

7 ай бұрын

2

@karnazacss

7 ай бұрын

2

@player0851

7 ай бұрын

1

@player0851

7 ай бұрын

27

Georgians look solid as hell. However I think the developers have to think about buffing some of the older civs here and there.

@CoffeeAndBusiness

7 ай бұрын

It’s on purpose. They want us to pay to win. I don’t see me playing aoe2 much longer.

@brna00

7 ай бұрын

just say you're bad@@CoffeeAndBusiness

@CoffeeAndBusiness

7 ай бұрын

@@brna00 just say I’m tired of purchasers kg bs every three months

@papermaniac

7 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeAndBusiness you are bad at playing.

@CoffeeAndBusiness

7 ай бұрын

@@papermaniac it’s crazy man. We used to have such a friendly society within AOE2

The Georgian music theme is just lovely.

georgian start is tough but it has a lot of strong options

@danielwynalda6700

7 ай бұрын

They are going to be the new chinese. Super strong at high level but week for noobs

Is it just me or the buildings have a slightly different tint from usual south european architecture?

Love how he said he should push a deer, when the new cart allows him to go to the deer instead of pushing them

@andyw5962

7 ай бұрын

I though it didn’t collect food?

@rafalst

7 ай бұрын

@@andyw5962 from hunt it collects. It doesnt from farms and berries.

@andyw5962

7 ай бұрын

@@rafalst cheers mate

@Numero27

7 ай бұрын

Does it also collect food from fish?

@rafalst

7 ай бұрын

@@Numero27 good question that i dont have the answer.

Nothing stops you from placing 5 fortified churches next to the enemy base! They only cost 200 wood and are as strong as a TC.

@G31GER_AOE

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the fortified church just shouldn't shoot arrows unless it costs stone. No building in the game fires arrows w/o stone. Just give them the option of normal monastery and fortified church say 175w 100stone?

@87JJosh

7 ай бұрын

You need to garrison villagers to make them shoot (I think)

@Nomatterwhat69

7 ай бұрын

Maybe give Armenians and Georgians an additional castle age upgrade in the university (that only costs stone) to make them fire arrows, else they don't. I'm concerned about church drops on my face 11

@karnazacss

7 ай бұрын

No, they throw 1 arrow causing 5 damage by themselves@@87JJosh

@RobotShield

7 ай бұрын

@@87JJoshyes like a TC and people already happy to douche opponents. Imagine if TC costs no stone, Persians be TC dropping all game

I would totally watch more gameplay of just any civ, any match, even any game (AOE2 or 4), it's just great to watch you play. Some PvP against someone of equal skill would be awesome.

@Nomatterwhat69

7 ай бұрын

I agree

I think that monastery should have an extra 50 stone cost

@krankarvolund7771

7 ай бұрын

50 is super expensive! Especially for Georgians who use it as a buff for their eco, imagine if you had to pay half of a town center for a building u want everywhere? Wait and see, but I don't think it's too overpowered for the moment to have it without a stone cost.

@martinmorande657

7 ай бұрын

@@krankarvolund7771 then maybe 25, i just think it’s too easy to spam

@dontspikemydrink9382

7 ай бұрын

100 would be fine too

@andrewj1754

7 ай бұрын

10 stone even.

@G31GER_AOE

7 ай бұрын

Literally before you say these churches aren't broken just imagine if Koreans could make monks out of their towers ohhh and also towers cost 200w no stone the slowest resource to gather. Kidding me

I really enjoy watching these play through a especially on newer civs

I love your content Spirit❤

The last time I played AOE2 was at a LAN party where only one guy had the CD and we played with a mod that added a bunch of civs and improved the AI. This was like...2012ish. Seeing this now is wild.

@jeffk862

7 ай бұрын

Hop in dude, it's as good as ever. Been playing for like a year or two now after not playing in 20 years

@WiscoDrinks

7 ай бұрын

my friends and I would bring our PCs to each others houses and do the same thing on LAN. all of us were horrible at the game in hindsight. id absolutely dominate that old group these days.

I like the music and the voice lines. Excited to try these civs.

My father's grand grand mother was Georgian... Very good to see Georgians.

absolutely love your videos

Man I can barely fight the weaker AIs Also, I expected the carts to be trained at the town center, even as a tradeoff for you not having to build it as often. I'm surprised you "build" it with villagers.

@WiscoDrinks

7 ай бұрын

ive only recently managed to consistently beat hard AI.

Great video! You should do more gameplay videos. Your style is very pleasing

That healing bonus is actually insane!

Hey Spirit, nice vid! Maybe you already know this, but when you're using your scouts to pick off villagers, if you don't put them on stand ground they'll sometimes switch targets because the other unit is closer, which can make it hard to get those villager kills, especially with small numbers

Thanks for the sneak peak!

i'd like to see more of this format. xCiv vs Ai

I must've completely missed this info drop. Glad we got SotL.

Whenever a new civ is introduced, l laugh even more.

Let's goo! finally my country has been added to my favorite game!!

I like the look of the fortified monastery, I REALLY like the castle

Love seeing SotL playing games too. He's usually so eloquent and calm but even he seems on the edge and sometimes confused when playing 11 You can play this game for 20+ years and never even come close to mastering it and that's why it keeps us entertained!

Born in 1990, my father once took me to his office, he was working in kutaisi (georgia) city hall and it was first time i played aoe, i was probably 10 years old, i wondered why i cant choose georgia, why i had to play with another nation😊 it took 23 year after thet georgia appears in aoe, my childish dream came true

I love watching you play. I wish you did more videos like this or against real players.

Theme sounds great.

Really like the look of how the new civs play, starts seem very interesting, especially the starts. Any plans on a vid for a comparison of effectivity of using the mules vs camps? I'd imagine it could add up to quite a lot over time once you factor in walking+build times.

I hope Mongols get Mule Carts. AOE4 mongols always made more sense to me than AOE2 ones, and when they announced AOE4 and I saw how Mongols worked, I was very happy.

Always cool to see new civs! I always like hearing the new languages even if I don't know how to follow along. I wonder how accurate the language is for Georgians?

@PROMIXCHANNEL

7 ай бұрын

This is an old Georgian language. It is different from the modern one, But a Georgians can make sense out of a sentence.

@avtoaglemashvili9692

7 ай бұрын

Im georgian, it’s old Georgian and it changes time to time, every century, but anyone in Georgia can understand it, It’s XIII Century Age

@giorgiarutinovi4677

7 ай бұрын

As a Georgian i can confirm that its very understandable and correct, even more if you have read vepkhistkaosani. Old Georgian is pretty similar to modern one

Hera's new favourite civ. Cavalry and eco defensive civ with spamable Hussars.

Hey i love your videos keep it up! Also what keyboard do you have?

Unique unit? I was hoping you would show the unique unit in action. But overall awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

can we get some more gameplay videos ? i loved it

Those monastaries seem so good for costing 0 stone

Oh sweet never thought I would see aom carts in aoe2

They line up! They line up! At last!

well played!!

Im sure DauT is happy he doesnt have to push deer anymore! 😂

Great video! Also, I think mule cart being small is kind of a downside? Lumber camp being 2 by 2 is a better drop off point than a 1 tile or 2 (not sure about the mule cart size) more surface area.

I’d almost like to see the first monastery being a wood only cost but every monastery built after that have a stone cost of 50 or something as well. No way they’ll keep a defensive structure like that at only a bit of wood.

The 10% resource bonus for churches sounds cool, but considering you'll only really be able to spam the monasteries in imperial age, and they lack two-man saw and gold shaft mining, you still wind up below a generic economy on 2 major resources (plus farms benefit more from movement speed than from collection speed, so it's pretty minor there). It's less a bonus and more of a "villagers are required to have monasteries nearby or suffer a gathering penalty".

Cool civ, though with recent talks about monk issues these fortified monastaries and the monk focus is going to start some fires.

I would like to see other monk civs with fortified churchs.

they need to add in those incendiary grenade throwers

The cav all in makes you vulnerable to pikes. But you can disengage and heal. Possibly the build needs additional priests or archers to take the pikes out of the equation one way or the other. Archers don't like Cavalier, and Paladin is expensive and doesn't offer speed boosts. So trying to out trade a healing cavalry force is difficult. I suspect the healing will be toned down.

The only thing I don't like about them is the architecture. I feel that the Mediterranean or South European architecture is way overused at this point, and I'd like to see them having a new set of architecture.

@Pacemaker_fgc

7 ай бұрын

Georgians and Armenians have a long tradition of great architecture, would be awesome to see it represented with more than just the unique building although I am happy to get at least one building that represents our history.

I am starting to wonder if the cart will mess things up for nothing maps. Since normally villagers start spreading out once you stop with micro, but now the cart will follow them, making them go in a straight line(?) since they just pick the nearest tree.

I think the mule cart will be great in the early stages of the game, however i expect it to be a liability later, because then it is just a raidable lumbercamp.

Floating that many wood despite all those farms in Feudal? Those carts are _efficient._

I asee an issue where you would use your lumber camp or mining camp as part of your small walls to keep out militia or MAA.

Why did you say Saracens are going to feel different in the intro? Are there some balance changes we don't know about yet?

Georgia, georgia on my mind

Hey SOTL, can you do a break down on if the Georgians eco tech fortified church works on ALLY eco?

Just to be clear, do the monasteries shoot arrows when not garrisoned? Because that seems to be a point of contention and quite a big factor into their effectiveness

So, both Armenians and Georgians will be fragile to drush, since mule cart is mobile, so you cant wall your woodline like with standart lumbermill

As an Aoe$ player, is very funny how the farm placement works in AoE2, looks extremely chaotic. Georgians looking nice.

The deer on Arabia were moved further away on a patch a few months ago I think

As a Georgian, I can confirm that I do actually slowly heal over time.

Hera will bei a beast with healing Scouts

Could the cart have lost the interest in trees when you gave it the new task of researching?

Does the mule cart allow you to gather deer? Considering it has been spawning far, wouldn't it be nice to send 3 vils and the cart instead of pushing (and just delay wood)?

I think each monastry should have a separate upgrade to keep button which costs some res like stone(no research time tho) because for 200 wood it has way too many functionalities and op

Hey Spirit, I've noticed in the videos of you playing you don't use small trees. What's the reason for that?

I guess a better balance for the church is to let them cost a little bit stone expect the first one or two. Unless it seems get too much value out of that 200 wood.

Damn I forgot that people can struggle against the AI, ggs tho!

Why didn't you researched loom at the beginning to compensate for the lack of food?

I think guttural is the throat and glottal is the (back of the) mouth? I'm not sure either 11

Since you have a mule cart, could you potentially go to deer first?

Will you play with the Armenians too?

On the minimap the AI built an angry face

Will there be gameplay with Armenians and Persians?

Spirit for lower Elo players who will probably get loom straight away you won't have as much issue with the initial food deficit as it's only a second or two out with the force drop off

@why_wait

7 ай бұрын

Think you can justify sending the cart to the deer to help the initial food problems

We want SOTL live!! ❤

SOTL I have a really burning question that I feel only you can answer... Are Mule Carts units or buildings?

Maybe instead of farms once your sheep are done you can take those vills hunting with a cart. they're kinda far but I think it would be an efficient food income and that way you can comfortably delay farms until horse collar

What happens in the following scenarios: 1) if your scout takes damage, but then it heals up to full HP, then you buy bloodlines, does it go from 45 to 65 HP or stay at 45HP as it has already been hurt? 2) if your scout takes damage, you buy bloodlines, then it heals up to full HP?

What’s spirits elo, I haven’t heard him talk about it since the hd days