What’s the point of putting this on TV if you can’t say why she was fired?

@andrewcampbell3100

2 жыл бұрын

Because it would be "sexist" imo...

@v.a.entertainment1889

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! But instead they go in support of getting her back her job except for exposing why she was fired in the first place. This is what’s wrong with the media in today’s world.

@jt1364

2 жыл бұрын

This is the Internet not TV.

@itiswhatitis1775

2 жыл бұрын

@@jt1364 excellent observation, but I was talking about the Television (TV) news channel that originally broadcast the story. Before it made it to the internet.

@hollydowns2279

2 жыл бұрын

our media is a bad joke

BREAKING NEWS:Women fired!!Unfortunately no details at 11.

@stevesabo1269

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

Why did they terminate her? Maybe that detail is important…

@messageinthebottle1673

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! I honestly hated that news media don't tell you the full story!

@mikeparker6322

2 жыл бұрын

If one is on probation this means no reason needs to be given for termination.

@gungral2097

2 жыл бұрын

I know this girl who was great at her job, she also had a baby, she started to skip too many days over her kid. Everyone advise her take maternal leave, so she come back when she's good and ready, and it doesn't reflect badly on her. But she didn't take heed, so she got the pinkslip.

@hollydowns2279

2 жыл бұрын

@@messageinthebottle1673 They slant they leave out key details they are paid puppets misleading the public all the time

@hollydowns2279

2 жыл бұрын

@@gungral2097 Bunch of crap Repubs insist every fetus needs to be born but have no care for actual born children

Probation states you can be let go for any reason. And they don’t have to tell what that is. If your late for work 1x you can be fired etc..

@marjoriemargel1567

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty unlikely it was that she was late one time with her resume….more flight hours than Any Man there? A Decade in Cal Fire? Yeah… Id like to hear the reason they Terminated her as well…..

@raymondtuckerjr1886

2 жыл бұрын

.....therefore it's stupid for any of you to speculate..... especially since you don't give a damn....you're looking loos, driving by a wreck, being nosy. Nap or hobby time....either go to sleep or find something to do.

This fluff piece didn't even tell you why... Most likely, she messed up.

Not even Desiree is saying why she was fired or given proof of discrimination, so far they are just claiming it. With a job like that, I'm sure they don't put up with B.S call-ins from anyone or doing half-ass work either. The one guy who is standing up with her is not even saying anything except he flew with her before.

Pitiful journalism. Is it not possible that an employee might be terminated after a probationary term for good reason?

@hollydowns2279

2 жыл бұрын

maybe she was fired over her child and needing to take care of that child if so there is a winnable lawsuit

@YA-qj8fx

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollydowns2279 If she has over 30 years flying, I highly doubt there's childcare issues involved.

@ognyena

2 жыл бұрын

Probationary period states you can be let go for ANY reason! They dont even have to give you THE reason! Certainly, its none of your business..

She was terminated for incompetence. Just because she was a woman does not mean she was competent. You can bet that the department consulted counsel to make sure they had a solid case before they got rid of her. Remember, they are the ones who hired her in the first place, so it seems unlikely they would fire her simply because she was a woman.

@MK-zz5qe

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Im sure they made sure it was a proper termination because of all this cancel culture shit

@efhjjfdth

2 жыл бұрын

Cite your source that she was fired for being incompetent or keep your ignorant assumptions to yourself.

@jericho1-4

Жыл бұрын

@@efhjjfdth The fact of the matter is it's a male dominated occupancy for two fundamental reasons, The first unlike law enforcement and the military who will make concessions and accommodations during training specifically in the physical abilities aspect most women either ask for a DOR-Drop on requests where they are not penalized and can later reapply if they so wish to giving them more time to get in to a proper physical fitness requirement to perform the tasks. Or either don't want to do such a physically demanding job to begin with or during training or after a few years of service in their department that the physical and psychological drain from viewing numerous tragedies, not only from fires but other response calls is too much. And while the attrition rate for women is slightly higher its not more than 5% of their male counterparts as there are so few women who want to get into the fire services field their ratio is naturally higher based on personnel numbers. I work in critical disaster/mutual aid response and have some very talented female co-workers I would and have trusted with my life and that of my crew mates. Another thing is what is the SOP or what was acceptable at one division or department may not be acceptable at another and if you can't augment your training or compliance with a different divisions or departments SOP it can cause employment issues. This lady left CalFire a state wide fire service that gives a little more latitude to their ground personnel and air crews than county city or state regional mutual aid companies/departments do, They may have wanted her to fly differently than she has been and it caused the conflict that resulted in her termination. Bare in mind that ground and air crew personnel rely on their training and things become muscle memory she may be an exemplary pilot and aircraft commander and was doing what her instincts and muscle memory told her was the right thing to do and it might have been contradictory to how OC fire services did things. Many fire services and incident commanders have had incidents of confrontational attitudes with smaller county and state divisions departments and mutual aid companies from surrounding jurisdictions during a response call up. She was an independent thinker and a damn good pilot by all accounts, a top tier individual in her chosen profession and a team player, so I wouldn't call this her failure it sounds like they got a varsity player and they were looking for a jv they could mold to their way of doing things and she gave push back based on her years of experience. It's their loss not hers I can guarantee you she could find another posting in a heart beat with any number of in state or out of state fire services or privately contracted fire/rescue firms making not only a better salary but would be expected to speak up and fly her craft as she always has, safely and proficiently. If one looks at labor statistics all of the physically demanding occupations have a much higher rate of male employees than women and that is mainly do to women not wanting to enter those occupations, this isn't the 1950's anymore where women are basically bared from entering these occupational fields they are just choosing not to in significant numbers. Take the military for example, I trained the first lionesses for the USMC and was damn proud so many of my sisters ( over three hundred) volunteered for a posting that would have them become daily targets of terrorists simply because they were women. They went in knowing the training and operations expectancy would be very difficult and those who passed the indoc and selection process who then moved on to specialized training were eventually cut off at the knees by the likes of older woman in politics from senators to congresswoman who force the Marine Corps to shut the program down. A lot of them felt betrayed by these women in politics as they had not only earned their billet but the respect of the Marines they served with and The Marine Corps as a whole. The fact that some individuals still rely on this "boys club" as their argument is pretty baseless, I've known almost a hundred women who performed two of the hardest occupational specialist positions in the fire services, type 2 red card holders aka Hotshots and Smoke jumpers. These are extremely difficult positions to get into both have a very high fail and or attrition rate for ALL CANDIDATES who apply. Some of whom have given their lives alongside their male teammates, not every occupation is suited for everyone, people have a choice in the occupational endeavor. Would I fly in this lady's ship? if my crew were trapped in a crowning wildfire and requested evac and this lady came in and got us, or we had an emergency medivac situation and she was on the duty log in was the one to respond her gender is the last thing anyone cares about. Women are no less braver than a man no less skilled not less motivated than their male counterparts, those who are in the fire services are there cause they can do the job point blank period.

Wouldn't gender discrimination prevent her from being hired ?

@comfeefort

2 жыл бұрын

Correctomundo!!!, it's the political battle on the inside that People don't see.,.....trust Me! She wasn't liked by the Women Groups

Over 30 years of flying.......she looks likes she's barely 30

I know someone who was a LAPD pilot they get paid 250k a year. She mustve have done something really bad to get fired from a police union.

@lennychorn147

2 жыл бұрын

Who said she was fired from LAPD? In fact, when did they say she flew for the LAPD? They did say she flew for the news station.

Sounds Suspicious to me especially in view of her admirable experience. I wish her well.

@CLARKaka

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like another woman wanting special treatment

@wes5150.

2 жыл бұрын

@G J What was the violation ?

These people don’t have anything better to do with their day other than protest this lady getting fired?

It could never be her fault that would be sexist. People need to hear both sides then judge. Believe it or not women can screw things up too

Horrible thing to do we the people need her

She did not follow policy after several warnings.

@raymondtuckerjr1886

2 жыл бұрын

Is what you write public information? If so, where/how does the public get access? Thank you.

@georgekraus9357

2 жыл бұрын

What policy? Dang stop treating us like idiots, we ain't stupid readers

@raymondtuckerjr1886

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgekraus9357 I know there's no policy.....just calling that fools bluff....knew he wouldn't respond.

@chazman4461

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymondtuckerjr1886 You do not think pilots have policies to follow????

@raymondtuckerjr1886

2 жыл бұрын

@@chazman4461 Please pay attention @Chaz Man. I'm aware that ALL employers have policies. My comment was directed at the individual stating that he knew why the pilot was terminated. First, It is illegal to discuss personnel matters, second, I was calling out the writer for lying....knowing that he couldn't produce documentation verifying his statement.

Tested positive for weed

What’s the story of the flunkie guy who’s young enough to have a new born and is “retired”. He “flew with her” but was “cutting line” in other words he was on a hand crew and they were transported by a helicopter that she was flying. He has no clue of her piloting skills.

She was fired for having her period on the chopper seat and as you know period blood attracts bad luck and bears.

She can pick me up in the choppa

WHY WAS SHE FIRED?

What about the fact that there are hardly any Mexicans in OCFA?

@player4life11111

2 жыл бұрын

You still ask?!!! Institutional racism is very real in the OC.

So, she was fired for being a woman? I'm suspect.

Why was she fired ?

No one gets fired for no reason.

@fashiondiva6972

2 жыл бұрын

Happens literally every day. I was in house counsel for a government agency. Probationary employees can be fired for wearing the wrong color shoes. Any reason. Don’t be a moron.

how many men over the years have been fired during their probationary period? Just because you have a vagina doesn't mean you're guaranteed a job if you cannot meet the standard

It sounds like they let her go just before her first year probationary period was completed. If so they do not have to have cause. She simply didn't pass probation. It was likely something personal.

@pulaski1

2 жыл бұрын

That is true, but they also can't use the "no reason required" excuse to terminate someone for reasons of prejudice, including their gender, race, disability, sexual orientation, _etc._

@carlv8168

2 жыл бұрын

@@pulaski1 Sadly, employers invoke the "At-Will" employee status when firing someone.

Orange County has a Civil Service system. It had rules and policies for probationary employees. It also incudes confidentiality too. Unless the terminated employee chooses to speak we may never know the entire factual story.

No one should ever be fired! Ever!

The person being reported was not in this report. They didn't ask HER why she was fired ! ? ! Why isn't she saying why she was fired. Hhhmmmmm ? Something is deliberately NOT being reported.

Why was she terminated?

Let’s just support her without knowing the full story. 🙈

Lol no one knows the reason and they just automatically assume it's discrimination because fEMaLe 🙄🙄🙄 Jesus christ. Is this really where we're at as a country? Ridiculous. Wait for the FACTS before you start jumping to conclusions. If and when it's PROVEN that it was discrimination, THEN go ahead and throw a fit. But until then, sit down and shut up!

That’s typical in the fire service. She wasn’t a bro or didn’t pick up their dishes. It can be a garbage environment.

Pending litigation = we screwed up and trying to figure out how to fix it

Hired and then fired. Nice! 😂😂😂

Why was she fired

It turns out 20 years ago the flight instructor molested her and she's just now coming forward with the accusation

I've known Desiree since she was 19. She's been a competent pilot since she was 19.

People get to keep their jobs based on their performances…..

Why was she fired ? Anybody ?

She should have been flying for Kobe

Dishonorable discharge

If shes as talented as they say its there loss not hers. There's plenty of other opportunities for her elsewhere

Where is the follow up

Also, maybe she stole from someone else's lunch. I don't care how great my co-worker is, you steal from me, I want you fired.

Imagine that, being discriminated against. 😳

Lmfao that 11 day old is going to persuade them to change the decision? I dont think so

She fondled the joystick too often.

Typical California wine festival, on a side note that chic pilot is 🥵

Why was she fired? That seems like something the media would want to tell us.

@raymondtuckerjr1886

2 жыл бұрын

What if they don't know? There's that possibility isn't there? You don't know, I don't know....maybe they don't know.

why did they hire her if they fired her? these things happen when we take chances

I'm guessing there was some sort of sexual harassment situation, but she's the culprit.

Anyone who has flown in SO Cal Airspace knows that this woman is Extremely Qualified in flying a helicopter. Was able to even be a News Helicopter Pilot, its always shady inside politics at work.

You cant be fired from probation period.

This is just wrong she has experience, so what if she messed up put her on suspension but don't fire her from the job. She looks young enough to be in the new all women marine corps.

Not buying it. Why was she fired? They didn’t just mail her a letter saying “you’re fired because of what’s between your legs!” No. There’s a reason. These people protesting should probably hold off on all that signage.

Why she got fired

We live in a politicized world

The only woman at OC Fire? Hmmm, sounds as if management never wanted her and is too dumb to realize what an opportunity she had. If this is just a case of gender discrimination, I hope she sues and wins.

@80club45

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they did want her, but she just failed probation for many reasons, I'm glad they fired her that to me is equality.

@jaminova_1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@80club45 From what I understand, she was an excellent pilot!

@efhjjfdth

2 жыл бұрын

@@80club45 How can you be glad she was fired when you don't even know if the reason was justifiable. Talk about ignorant.

@80club45

2 жыл бұрын

@@efhjjfdth it's called equality if u messed up or don't qualify you go!

@80club45

2 жыл бұрын

@@efhjjfdth I would be mad if she didn't get fired just because she is a woman.

You know, my employee files are confidential. While i would love to have been fired for being a brown skinned (insert race here), I know I made enough mistakes over my career to know its probably not racism why I was fired. Privacy is a right, and respect for privacy has gone off the wayside.

She called her friends at the news channel typical complaining about me to movement bye bye girl lol 😂 oops 🙊

sounds suss af

Oh yeah another thing women get paid to work out for the fire department physical men don't.

Prolly popped dirty on a drug test.

She’s honestly better without Orange County politics and CA

Wow like 5 people out there.

The heathens you put in charge. who what when where WHY!!!

At least she had 2 firsts!

MEN WHO ARE PILOTS GET FIRED TOO YOU KNOW !!!!!! OMFG

My suspicions are peaked when no reason is given for her firing and the woman who said she’s never made a mistake is very suspicious lol

Ok why is this news

Failed final drug test with controlled substances.

Look at me I can drop water on a fire that is everywhere.

@lennychorn147

2 жыл бұрын

If you think that is a simple easy feat, then you are exposing yourself as being completely ignorant. I'd bet big money, that you could not achieve success in a simulator, let alone in a real aircraft.

@anthonymcnatt3799

2 жыл бұрын

@@lennychorn147 Nice try. I flew A-10s in the AF.😎

Let the Lady shine as she has been. Unless there is something concrete to stand on.

🔥

She cost to much?

I need the mother in the video to learn how to support her babies head!! Sheesh!

Never heard of her ..... and now we have . Big deal , shes a female pilot , so what ? Men have been doing this for a very long time , in wars , in rescue missions, why are we putting men down because some lady lost her job , this happens to men every day get over it .

wow, first of all, what a beautiful woman, she's so pretty. I los angeles county, the fire dept. was barre from conducting their own testing for candidates due to that exact same reason, the boys club mentality. Captains were giving the test answers to their kids, and family, the whole system is corrupt. Hopefully she got fired for not doing a good job, not for being a woman.

@lennychorn147

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, for one this is Kommifornia, I seriously doubt that her termination has anything to do with her gender. If you look at it rationally, if they didn't want a female flying, they wouldn't have hired her in the first place.

@jaminova_1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@lennychorn147 Gee, then imagine my surprise when I found out my "liberal" minded employers aren't as "progressive" or "woke" as you think they are. Believe me, the boys club still exists, now they just say it behind closed doors.

Sounds like politics.

Speculation .... she probably pulled out the female card !!! Got a little to big for her britches? Started some shit !!! She gone ...

Sorry, but anyone can be fired during there probation period for failing to meet the department standards.......more to come

She was calling off work too many days in a row. She was advised to take maternity leave due to her call offs and she refused. She had a baby and kept calling off instead of doing it the right way by filing for maternity leave and baby bonding time.

@efhjjfdth

2 жыл бұрын

She's 50 years old and there's no mention of her having a baby or being married. Cite your source, liar.

Lets not pull the gender card.

She was a horrible pilot people. Fact!

women can't be fired hahahahaha

Maybe, you know, she sucked at her job...

Pilots wash out all the time. Leave it to CBS to make it about genitalia💯🤮👎🏽

She's not willing to look the other way when the fires are spred by DEW-Direct Energy Weapon.

@melanieman7738

2 жыл бұрын

I know what your talking about & that shit is very scary..

@lennychorn147

2 жыл бұрын

Time to get out the aluminum foil hats. I have found the lunatics.

@melanieman7738

2 жыл бұрын

@@lennychorn147 says the troll.. do some homework you fool

GOOD SUPPORT...YEY!

She had a periods?

1:46-150 that dude is right 🤣

@whiqeddik7615

2 жыл бұрын

@Jack Stefan itztenmon

Slow news day

Geez that baby is tiny lol

There's gotta be something that led her to getting fired. and that'a what we want to know.

The woman holding the baby is 100% on drugs and the baby seemed underweight. That’s a firefighters wife?

Angels in the skies are always needed. With that much experience anyone will hire her in the civilian sector, Thank-you 🙏

@CLARKaka

2 жыл бұрын

Wow are you getting sucked into the media B.S.

Call Gloria Allred.

REASON FOR TERMINATION! I'm sure there's a reason, not buying gender discrimination

@Indiansmoke1

2 жыл бұрын

They cant say under law. Only she can say why she was fired. Ive seen a probie dropped cause he forgot to wear a mask in a gov building during lockdown . It was the gov politicians who got him fired not the FD. We all stayed friends with him. It sucks.

@80club45

2 жыл бұрын

@@Indiansmoke1 in that case it's her responsibility to come out publicly and set the record straight, we don't need confusion over gender discrimination