I’m a retired firefighter engineer. Here is my take on these type of nozzles, and my opinion is based on experience of having owned one of these garden hose nozzles. PROS 1) It looks cool CONS 1) Weak stream 2) No distance 3) No pressure Here’s a functional difference between a firefighting combination nozzle )ability to change the stream pattern) and these nozzles. A combination nozzle, aka Fog Nozzle is pumped at 100 psi nozzle pressure. Domestic water pressure on your home is somewhere in the 45-60 psi range. Although these are not true firefighting nozzles, in theory they are designed the same. Without the higher pressure approaching 100 psi, a combo nozzle will produce a limp Dick flow stream. The other style of firefighting nozzle is a Smooth Bore Tip, aka Solid Stream nozzle. The nozzles are not adjustable and deliver a solid stream of water for better penetration and reach to hit the seat of the fire (fog nozzles create a stream of small droplets that can simply evaporate before it hits the seat of the fire on deep seated hot fires). Solid stream nozzles are pumped with a nozzle pressure of 50 psi. 50 psi is what domestic water pressures provide. So in the end, the good old fashioned narrow tip garden hose nozzle remains the best way to go. You get a good reaching stream and it’s adjustable to produce a spray pattern. These firefighter style nozzles are just a gimmick with a domestic water supply. With the water pressure being constant, the larger the nozzle tip, the less pressure with more GPM. The smaller the nozzle tip, is more pressure with less GPM. Finding that balance is your personal choice. At home, I’d rather have more pressure over more GPM.

@tinachen9428

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment! I'm actually a supplier of one of the fireman nozzles shown in the video. We make these in Taiwan for our US customer. I am looking for ideas, thoughts, comments on these products so we can make improvement on our next design.

Honestly, the first nozzle for me has the best spray pattern with residential water pressure. I syringe water my creeping bent grass so I need a finer spray pattern. The 100 dollar nozzle would do the same thing for 2000 sqft golf course putting greens at the 80-100 psi they have at the course. The 100 dollar one is made to be used with way higher water pressures and if you want to mimic that at home, the 30 dollar one’s pattern is actually what you need for home turf. The red one was trash. Thank you! You just saved me 70 dollars!

Another very informative video of the most frustrating unit of a hose! A lifetime of trying different nozzles and wasted money, and you are right, cost doesn't mean it's better! Thanks for demonstrating it all so well. You always amaze!

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Great review…would love to see a garage tour and a separate toolbox tour of your red boxes someday.

Thanks for another informative video. I use the OG version of the red nozzle you showed in combination with the Griot’s handle. My use is to fill buckets, so I leave the nozzle set to where I want it, press and lock the Griot’s handle and let the bucket fill up while I finish setting up. Side note: I tried the Griot’s quick disconnects but they leaked and significantly reduced the water volume. I now have MTM QD’s and they are great.

I've had the hisc nozzle for over 19 yrs now and that thing is tough. We backed over with my truck on accident once and it survived! Sure it doesn't kick out like a fire station nozzle because my home isn't plumbed that way, but the nozzle has survived the test of time and that quality over quantity goes a long ways for me.

I like using a fireman’s nozzle for the pressure/volume combo, but they are a pain to twist all the way to shut off the water. I put a brass ball valve between the hose and nozzle so I can keep the spray pattern constant and can turn the water on/off without the constant twisting. Those nozzles are sometimes a pain to twist open and shut. I wish they had a handle like the traditional pistol gripped ones so the spray pattern could change with the press of the handle. One day, someone’s ultimate frustration will turn into invention. I’m sure it could be done.

Purchased the Ultimate Fireman’s hose bucket from OG garage after looking at more expensive Griot’s garage Nozzle. My thinking was it would not get used as much as my pressure washer when detailing care. It’s a nice nozzle and looks like based on your video Phil, I made a solid decision.

While I applaud your efforts to do a fair comparison of these various nozzles, a more accurate representation would have been made if they were all tested under the same, exact conditions. You tested some with those optional cut-off valves and some without the cut-off valves. The cut-off valve with the plastic handle looked like the opening was a smaller diameter than the garden hose, which would have restricted more of the water flow to the nozzle. You didn't talk about or show the openings inside those cut-off valves. Also, you installed the quick connects onto the nozzles for these tests. That again could misrepresent how the factory nozzles perform. It's been my experience that those quick connects restrict water flow to the nozzle. That's why I eventually threw mine away. It sounded like you used those quick connects on all of the nozzles in the tests, and while that would make the tests consistent across the nozzles, there really wasn't a good reason or benefit to using them. It didn't save the viewers any time, since you could eliminate shooting video of you screwing the nozzles onto the hose without the quick connects. I do realize your good intentions of demonstrating the difference between cheap and expensive nozzles--and I do appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video for us--but the tests weren't as fair and consistent as they could have been, IMHO. Thanks so much...

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

first off these were testing using the same hose and water supply the same day only the units that required the additional cut off valve were used as such, to be honest the better design is to eliminate the cut off valve and have the flow integrated into the unit. your more than welcome to spend your own money and make a better video but to me it just is not worth the effort.

@Alex-Zone

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars He's right tho.

I've got to stay with my Gilmore with the thumb water shut-off. These fireman nozzles are great on city water pressure, but I'm on well water pressure 45psi - 60psi (well kicks on @ 45psi and off @ 60psi) and for my needs the Gilmore has the Lifetime warranty. I wish I had full time city water pressure. I only use the water hose to flood-dry my truck. Great review.

You do awesome product comparison videos! They’ve helped me a lot when making purchasing decisions! Thank you.

Love the old school AF comparison vid 👍🏼

I have that red overmolded one I got from obsessed garage and I have the Dramm ball valve adapter and MTM hydro stainless quick couplers on all of my hoses. I have a 100’ hose on the front corner and back corner of my house as well as a 50’ in my garage, all are Red High temp 3/4” hose from continental. Little pricy but it’s worth it, buy once cry once.

Nice video. I agree the home Depot ones with all the spray patterns really suck. Looks like the big red one is the way to go. Thanks!

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

yeah and best value.

The expensive nozzles require 3/4" hose, ball valves (and not the teensy hole found in cheeseball home squeaky garden hose bibs), and 60 PSI+ *at the nozzle when wide open*. Especially the Underhill. You can read this disclaimer all over their website.

I use a Gilmour, like 12 bucks on Amazon. Very happy with it and it shuts off without added gadgets.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the more expensive ones disappoint me with their lack of internal shut off

@tinachen9428

2 ай бұрын

@@autofanaticcars Thanks for putting out this video! I'm a hose nozzle supplier fromTaiwan. Will make sure the internal (dual) shut-off function gets included in all of our design.😃

I like the fire-hose sprayers! I won't buy any other kind, but I always have to buy low end cause even those aren't cheap. And unless I KNOW they will last because inevitably they start falling apart either the rubber starts crumbling or the turning them off or on unscrews the whole thing. I just want one that will keep working, giving me either a high volume stream or car washing amount of rinse water. And that's another thing I wanted to know. I wanted to know how far do they spray??? I mean you didn't have to set up markers and everything but it is something I'd base my purchase on. It seemed to me that should have been in here. Sometimes that's the only way I can reach certain parts of my yard is with a stream that can go 30 feet or so. To reach my compost pile for instance. Actually that's what I love most about these kind of nozzles. The high volume of water plus the DISTANCE! I have a single stream shooter that probably goes 50, but it is a pin-point and usually not all that useful. Hmm - unless I am chasing squirrels. And what the heck, does the Griot's garage even turn off? I am unsure. It was stated it needs a valve attached and never saw it actually shutting down completely, can it be turned completely off? It seems like it would. But have to I know, these are a necessary / unnecessary expense for me.

Your water pressure in your area seems quite low. Those fire hoses don’t perform to their potential unless you have some serious amount of pressure along with high flows

I have an Adams polishes firehose nozzle, it looks a heck of a lot like Griots. I paid $99.00+tax about 3 or 4 years ago. It is very high quality and it does turn all the way off, but I quit using it because my water here doesn't have enough pressure for it.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you 100% that Adams nozzle is also made by Underhill which seems to be what Griots is because they look and feel and function 100% the same

@bobbymorgret

2 жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars yep! You're probably right.

Hi there, the Ultimate Original nozzle, does one of the spray patterns suffice for sheeting water off the car after it’s done drying? Do you recommend this over the other kind of hand held hose nozzles like the green one you have in the video, in terms of pressure/flow/spray pattern? Thank you!

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

yeah works excellent for washing cars

I’m pretty sure that the Adams and griots are rebranded Kochek nozzles. They make firefighting and irrigation nozzles

Thanks for the video Phil! What do you think of pressure washer nozzle price difference ? A friend of mine thinks I’m crazy for having a mosmatic but I think it’s worth it

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

Mosmatic stuff is great but I have tested some of the cheaper ones and the one thing I will tell you the cheaper ones with hard water do get clogged badly from corrosion. cheap stainless rusts easily

I have the exact Underhill nozzle and mine shuts off once yu turn it to stream and then off…not sure if this is a design change from mine? Ive had mine for 2 years and NO PROBLEMS. However, if you dont have GOOD pressures in your water you wont like the Underhill red nozzle

What's you opinion on quick connect/disconnect valves to connect hoses on detail equipment, i.e. pressure washers, nozzles (as see in this video). I do my own car and have to put everything back on a rolling cart so being able to use quick connects to set up and tear down quickly is appealing. Great video by the way.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

I use quick connects on all my gear but make sure you buy good ones the cheap one leak

Maybe try buying the one from Harbor Freight it's only like 8 bucks and everyone seems to like it!

Phil check out Eley garden hose set for $91 made out all brass and stainless steel.

Good to see, but if I wanted that style maybe would buy Griot’s only for warranty. My budget would be the cheaper units you dislike because I rarely use a water hose for car wash. They waste too much water compared to pressure washers. Water bills are high enough just for lawn and personal use

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i have lusted over that fancy hose nozzle for 12 years and coughed up to buy it but i prefer the cheaper one with the built in valve it feels awkward to use the Griots one with the flow valve to wash a car

DO you still like the way your stelvio drives compared to the bmw suv you reviewed earlier this week?

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

Stelvio is great however the BMW is much more expensive, more refined and better riding and built.

Quick question, can we use Collinite 845 on wheels ? Or would you recommend Collinite 476 for just wheels only?

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

476 way more durable

@davidcisneros5703

2 жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars thanks 🤟🏻, I just got my first can of 915 can’t wait to apply it on my Q50 🔥

@davidcisneros5703

2 жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars wassup AF, another question wanted your opinion and advice, I have a Craftsman Gas Pressure Washer 3100-PSI, 2.5GPM... which foam cannon do you think it would work better with either the Griot’s Brilliant Finish foam cannon or MTM PF22 ??

I'm shocked that the Eley hose nozzle isn't included in this. Nothing is better. It is the holy grai ofl garden hose nozzles.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

I have one of those out back and it leaks so bad i did not want to show it the landscaper destroyed it this last summer

The manufacturer almost never direct sells to consumers. Like Samsung and other big names, they all tend to buy from a central manufacturer or small handful of them for various prices depending on volume, and sell based on their name or their desired bottom line. I.e Samsung sells for high dollar and Vizio sells cheaper yet check the internals and many are comparable of not identical. That's just TVs which I know a lot about, however the same applies to tools, such as hose nozzles, in fact, it applies more so, as there are only like 3 main hose nozzle manufacturers inside the USA, but over 100 "companies" that sell hose nozzles.

No Bionaire 10C Stainless? It's the original!!

Pressure washer!

Residential homes only have a certain amount of pressure. You cant create more from a nozzle

I still have my US-made 🇺🇸 solid brass internals with hard rubber exterior NELSON super heavy duty nozzle 🤘🏻. Then NELSON unfortunately went to lighter cheaper China 🇨🇳 made products 👎🏻. Been looking for a proper replacement that is worthy.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

yes Nelson and Gilmour all went overseas way back and their stuff isnt the same

I clicked on the links to Amazon for the red one and it links to a different product?

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

thats an updated version but its the same one with built in valve and cheaper than the others.

What's your PSi from your spigot?

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

quite a bit our pressure is a bit on the higher side now like new homes today.

@kbpinglia

2 жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars I believe we bought ours from Home Depot but not much pressure, not sure if it's the nozzle or the spigot itself

عاوز واحده

Buy a kochek nozzle

@autofanaticcars, what brand is the nozzle shown at 2:39? Thanks!

So not worth it…. You can buy The Home Depot ones 7 times or 10 times over for the price of those expensive ones.

@autofanaticcars

2 жыл бұрын

but its nice to have a quality piece of kit on the end of your $300 hose like us fanatics lol

@timkinley1779

2 жыл бұрын

That's kinda the point of getting a good one. So you don't have to keep going to Home Depot for another one, and another one, and another one, and another one, and another one, and another one, and another one.

Also, Underhill is a reputable company. They make multiple nozzles for various applications. I would never consider an underhill nozzle “cheap” by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to spend more money for products not designed for residential water pressure and call them inferior then maybe you need to educate yourself before doing a review.