I remember when i worked as the receptionist. Our fire panel would make this mosquito noise that drove me insane when a trouble code non threatening would happen... one day.. i heard a bunch of micro relay clicks ALL synchronous and i was like nope... I turned around saw the red FIRE light and called it... entire school evacuated because a non existent water flow valve sent a signal... they could never find the cause... I learned so much from that panel... So temperamental...

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Could just be a large water pressure change we've had that before where it will set off flow switch from sprinklers. they are supposed to have a backflow preventer to prevent that however I've seen it happen and if you were trying to look for the problem afterwards you would never find it

@alexandersalarms5380

11 ай бұрын

been there lol

I believe that the kid pulled it on purpose

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

My guess too

@treylejeune4740

Жыл бұрын

Yeah kids would do it all the time in my Intermediate school and a few times we had to stay outside for two hours because the alarm’s pull down wouldn’t reset so the alarms went off and on like 10 time or something like that

@nathanharrellyoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@treylejeune4740 I’m guessing they didn’t reset the pull station?

@kyle207

Жыл бұрын

My friend pulled the alarm once in like 2nd grade.

@nathanharrellyoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@kyle207 i am observant and realized our principal had the reset key and i went in the classroom and said we are about to have a fire drill and about that time they started going off

I appreciate all the effort you put into every video and everything you have done over the years 😊😊😊

I’m about to have one of these drills next week.

I enjoy watching these videos of different places and schools and their monthly Fire drills. The High School in my hometown, is a newer building built towards Y2K, looked more like a Hospital than a High School with 2 floors, 3 classroom wings, but no lockers to make a long story short. Both my older brother and I went and graduated from there, but in different years. Anyway, the Fire alarms were all horn/strobes manufactured by Wheelock. They say they are CH 70 Chime Strobes from recent Fire alarm videos on KZread, but I think they were just horn/strobes, voice-activated like from a walkie-talkie, and they were set to temporal Code - 3 and they were loud and they had them all over the building, the classrooms, the restrooms and private rooms near both the Choir and the Band (yeah why?) , and even in the stairwells. They also had Fire doors that were magnetized and closed automatically when the Fire alarms activated. Since then after looking at different on Google maps, it has a 4th classroom wing. Both the High School and even the Movie theater had these same horns/strobes. I'm still getting used to different model of Fire alarms, even though they're pretty loud and I admit I covered my ears and I cried more than once during the monthly Fire drills, but only during Elementary. I may be older but still, they were loud .

where i worked in a old food warehouse the fire system was extened lots of times ,it had lots of fulse alarms so when we got a new building from the old we only had five panels around site ,but when the nodes dropped out not all panels could talk to each other giving us different spots where alarms started.

I saw someone do that in the 2nd grade the principle was not happy

When I was working for the local school district, the custodian at the school would pull a station for the drill and the administrators would monitor the evacuation to look for potential problems. Once everyone was out of the building, they would reset the system and sound the school bells to signal for the children to return to class. Our fire alarm maintenance people were not involved unless there was a problem with the system. In the event that a smoke detector went off, they would evacuate, while the staff would check the area in alarm for any real issues. Fire Department was called only if there was a real fire that school staff couldn’t immediately extinguish. In 30+ years of working in the system, and 76 campuses, we only had one instance where the fire department was needed during school hours.

@kyle207

Жыл бұрын

How did the fire happen

@littleprincess4417

Жыл бұрын

@@kyle207 If I remember correctly, a dryer caught fire because they didn’t clean the lint screen. and spread to a pile of gym uniforms the woman had piled in the laundry room. That’s been 15 years ago or so.

here in the united states if you are a high school student and you falsely set off the fire alarm you would be arrested by the sro school resource officer a police or sheriff deputy who is stationed at the school at all times not only will you be arrested but possibly expelled from the school. when you do fire drills does the school notify the alarm monitoring company that the school will be doing a fire drill if the school doesn’t notify the alarm monitoring company then the company will notify the emergency dispatch center of the fire alarm callout and subsequently a fire department callout

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Yes we also notify monitoring company that's no different however we don't arrest people the problem is with creating too much fear around fire alarm is people will hesitate to use it then if they are unsure it's better to just pull it if you were in an unsure situation than to not have and potentially endanger people so there needs to be respect for it but not too much fear

That school looks nicer then a modern day church

Pulling Fire alarms is a crime if it wasn’t a drill

@imachicken-

Жыл бұрын

Not if it was a fire drill, and u was the person that was able to set it off.

@Adenshep1

Жыл бұрын

@@imachicken- I edited the comment

This happend once while i was year 6 and a year 3 pulled it and.. I was in the goddam toilet. I gave them a piece of my mind.

last month or two my school had a real fire drill and the pull station kept going off, faulty wires or due to my schools system is like 50 years old. We use the bells that keeps ringing (no pauses) the fire alarms.

At the factory I work at, we have surprise drills and they take it a step further. Without notifying the department and area supervisors, they'll grab random employees and hide them in various rooms in the building. They do this to make sure everyone is keeping up with their rosters and are able to quickly identify if someone is missing.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

That's cool and probably is a good idea to do that

My Elementary had old alarms that they were replacing with System Sensor L-Series Speaker Strobes and FireLite BG12LSs. They had done an ok job but they had to move some of the pulls away from doors because kids ran into them coming in. One time on the second to last day of school, the 4th graders tried to make popcorn and set it on fire. The smoke detectors did their job and set off the system. For some reason, the speaker strobes were set to the horn strobe tone. They could've spent less money on the horn strobes but they didn't.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

May just be pre-actively installing them intending to change the tone in the future and have it future proved

Ironically, our school had to evacuate because of a piece of toast lol, Today as well

@ScaredDonut

Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened at my schools years ago in the winter too 🥶

@ElevatorWasher5000

Ай бұрын

My first school had to evacuate because the microwave set off the smoke alarm, activating the Honeywell Control Panel to activate the fire alarms

The digital clock in the hallway feels so weird to me! Like someone took their bedside clock and mounted it in the school.

Your high school really represents a shopping mall IMO. My high school is just a walk track going around

I remember I was at the young center and they were coming to do a fire drill. I asked if I could pulled it and they said sure go ahead. What was funny was the lady at the desk after I pulled it got up started walking towards me. Then the guys came in and said it's ok we said he could pull it. Just a fun memory.

Back when I was an intern for my local school district, I was assigned to my old elementary school. When the custodial staff would clean the walls and even bump the pull stations (Panel was an EST Fireshield, and pulls were Edward’s 270-SPO, horns were EST Genesis inside and Edward’s integrity outside) the pull station would immediately go into trouble. The custodian would take it off the wall and since I have a QuickStart system in my whole house, I have him my two cents on it, the module died behind each pull station in my opinion, wires were snug, just the modules stopped working each time. It wouldn’t poll though after being bumped on the side while cleaning. Fun times! By the time a tech came out to service it my term as an intern ended. Also he would put the system on test with the monitoring company and would then pull it and nothing would happen, that’s why I came to the conclusion the module had failed (which is very unsafe in a large elementary school). Every other device past that point was working , so I knew it wasn’t wiring at that point.

I hope the kid that did this got in trouble.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

He's just in elementary school and they can't prove it that it wasn't an accident so nothing would probably happen

Screeching like a screaming banshee with all those spectralerts...especially the one in the gym doing continuous...

I find it weird that you guys try to sync the alarms at your school, but for some reason it doesn’t sync

@nics-systems-electric

5 ай бұрын

It is synchronized just not in this video

interesting fire alarm sound, i would prefer that over my school which is a constant high low high low that never stops.

@Boxersteavee

Ай бұрын

As with most British alarms

Great high school fire drill

Lovein it

OUCH! Those Advances are probably the loudest alarms I ever heard. The continuous on the outside instead of code 3 would hurt my ears in a matter of seconds lol. This is why voice evacuation needs to be more universal. It doesn’t matter what sound the alarm makes, as long as it’s just loud enough to alert everyone in the building. People would still know the alarm is sounding and voice actually tells you HOW to exit. Horns just don’t have the same style of alerting like voice.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Advances or in this case an L-series on continuous in the gym can be around 100 dB but they aren't nearly as loud as Bell's which are more around 110 dB which is surprisingly much louder

Because all of them are unsynced “dirty DC” it sounds like continuous sometimes 😂

Cool video nic!!!😍😍🙂😉

One quick question. At your school do any people approach you saying hey, are you the guy who does the fire drills? if yes what do you respond with?

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

I've never had someone ask I don't think anyone cares or knows

@AgentOriginal

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric Thanks for responding! I appreciate your effort that you put into your videos.

@geoffg8840

Жыл бұрын

​@@nics-systems-electric nice school Nic. Im subscribing.

The panel is probaly sent to steady (continous) try setting the panel to temp 3 and turn the fire alarms to coded, if it dosent work, replace the sync module, if that also dosent work, your better off ignoring it :)

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Many of the devices don't have a coded option and the sync module on the XP6 card is working as we have tried swapping it with no affect so the nac's must stay on continuous output for the strobes

@CJP_Productions

Жыл бұрын

​@@nics-systems-electric maybe all the alarms are connected to 1 NAC circuit, try placing all of them on there own NAC circuit?

when you look at the windows in the gyms it looks like your in a whole other fucking world

I thought a new building would get the voice evac alarms.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Not required unless it's a medical facility or high-rise building

@kland15

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric ok, thank you. Some of the new schools in Florida that I work in have the voice evac. I think it’s easier on students with disabilities that don’t respond well with the super loud noise.

This may be because i've never seen anything like this, but what is the reason you unlock the pull station, pop it open briefly, then close & lock it again?

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Resets it

No way, American caught saying secondary school

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Huh? I'm in Canada and yes they are called secondary schools

@Ron_TTE

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric it’s just a joke xd

I had a fire drill today and it didn’t go so well…

I believe the kid was trying to do cool Stunts in front of the hot girls so I believe it was half on purpose in half an accident first it was on purpose because he shouldn’t even been doing that in the hallway and plus I think it’s on accident because his foot probably slipped in the pole bar where you put your hand in the the Pull

I just got to pull it today

09:37 That happened today at school on Monday November 27th 2023 at 10 AM EST during passing period where a bird came into the big area at my school and it happened because someone left the door open to help bring in some cool breeze from the outside for a long time. The school eventually got it out by turning off all the lights in the big room to get the bird to become attracted to the sunlight where the opened door is and eventually the bird flew outside

Imagine you replace that one continuous horn, and all the sync problems disappear

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be nice

@KanoaDeCastro

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric yessir

@NIC'S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC you said smoke dampers. are those in the class rooms?

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

No

@dylanchalmers3011

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric same room with the fans?

Kids going to be suspended for this

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

It's elementary school and they can't prove he did it on purpose so I highly doubt it

Uall have a really cool school

Lollllll that story the kid spun about how they supposedly did a weird backflip thing and supposedly set off the alarm accidentally is such bs. They pulled it on purpose! That’s just the sort of take a teenager would make up for doing something stupid.

Nice video of the day.❤🎉. 0:27 .

how many electrical rooms does your school have and also where is the fire alarm panel usually in a building

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

One main electrical room with a generator room below and then sub electrical closets throughout the building

@parker02311

Жыл бұрын

Idk if he ever answered the second question, usually the panels are stored in a electrical room with a annunciator near the main office. However in most schools I have gone to the panel was in the office and the annunciator was near the main entrance.

When will you do another fire drill at [redacted] Secondary School with the NFS-640 (your high school)?

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Not till next school year

@Corwin09-ji8sx

Жыл бұрын

This is like the situation here in the United States. I don't have school until my summer break is over. Next year, I'll be in Parkway North Secondary (Parkway North High) School.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

@@Corwin09-ji8sx we are still in school until June 28 just no more drills this year though

@Corwin09-ji8sx

Жыл бұрын

​​@@nics-systems-electric That is not the point. I am saying for one, when August comes around, that is when I go to high school, and When I start school again. And two, I am Aware that not all countries have an equal school year and summer break. So in conclusion, your school year may be going, but I am out until August. Edit: I am also aware you don't have anymore fire drills.

I hated fire drills when I was in school I have sensitive ears plus I don't like loud noises plus with adhd I'd freak out alot when they go off

I've always wondered what the desync is about. One set of alarms sound a split second before/after the other. I wanna know what would cause that to happen. EDIT: I didn't realize you already tried fixing it. Maybe it's a similar problem that caused it to happen at my high school.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

I have a video on the synchronization problem and trying to find the culprit it hasn't been solved yet but currently the best assumption is dirty power causing the sync signal to get lost in the dirty DC

@josh6715

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric my old primary school had a bell similar to a church which used a mallet that got wound back then released or something like that it was so loud it was tied into the security system but their was a by pass switch so the bell could be rung independently it was a Wiard set up

Okay this is a amazing video but I’m into business phones , security cameras and door intercoms and if you need help let me know

All schools that I went to had ink on all fire alarms.who pulled it gets ink.there few times in yrs I went to schools kids pull the fire alarm get ink on them for month.the ink dos not spray, just gets on your hands so the police can identify the puller.i do not know if they did this anymore?

Wait mine looks and sounds like the first one you pulled-

@PabTSM-OfficialChannel

9 ай бұрын

same

I have a fire Drill at my house with my fire alarm demo system

Is it possible to convert a class b to a class a without damaging the school?

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Depends what you consider damage can you can always find a way depending on how the building constructed it could be easier than others if there's crawlspace ceiling voids that are accessible or drop ceilings where new BX or pipe can be run

I have seen birds in my school before They will fly in through the door as it happened to me when i was at my apartment luckly was able to get the bird out

Would having the smoke control going on just add more air to the fire and cause the fire to grow? 🤔

@nics-systems-electric

2 ай бұрын

That's why buildings are sprinklered to control a fire however they do not stop smoke therefore you need smoke control systems in certain applications in a sprinkler building smoke is a much bigger hazard than the fire itself which will be controlled by sprinklers

Do you test alarms in Ontario, Canada?

@vrryan6

Жыл бұрын

No, he does not.

@mewing-gawd

Жыл бұрын

He’s in BC I think

@vrryan6

Жыл бұрын

@@mewing-gawd I believe so

thanks YT i missed this one "acrobatics" ha ha haaaa

I’ll give you a link to my channel in the comments when I finish the drill

That system is very desynced

I agree with you. How would you "accidentally" pull a pull station? That makes absolutely no since. I hope the School administration didn't actually fall for that explanation.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure it wasn't "accidentally" but that's the schools problem we just go there to see what happened and help the fire department if they need it

@ticearpey3235

Жыл бұрын

A kid at my middle school backed into a pull in the main gym and his elbow went into it setting it off. As a result, stoppers had to be put in place.

@EricWhiteTheGamer

Жыл бұрын

It’s is easy to do, however that depends on the alarm, that’s way some alarms have legal plastic guards over them to prevent from triggering if it is hit hard enough, accidental also depends on how it’s pulled/hit.

That must have been loud

Don't understand why the vid does not show any students exiting the building! Makes it look like alarm pulled in an empty building. Not the case I would think.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Most of them use more direct exits than the main entry where I pulled it I purposely wait till the Corredor's are clear to not show kids in the videos

Sorry as someone who has lived in Vermont my whole life AN ELEVATOR IN A SCHOOL…WHAT??

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Almost every two or more floor school has at least one elevator mine has two

@teatrolites3446

Жыл бұрын

Probably ADA requirement or something too

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

@@teatrolites3446 I am in Canada so we don't have ADA but that's just how it's been for the last 20 or 30 years every school that has multiple levels has an elevator

Why would that kid pulled the fire alarm

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

I would guess It's fun

@Cam.469

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric well it’s not funny

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

@@Cam.469 not gonna lie it's a little funny acrobatics in the hallway...

@Cam.469

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric you know it’s not funny to pull the fire alarm without Permission

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

@@Cam.469 you're not supposed to do that no. but we often find it pretty funny when it happens because the reasons are always funny example this time it was acrobatics in the hallway

Why at your high school some are on code 3 and some are on continuous

@vrryan6

Жыл бұрын

I believe they are just out of sync so it sounds like that.

@HenBasketFireAlarms

Жыл бұрын

@@vrryan6 no, one of the ones in the gymnasium somehow got set on continuous 2:57

@alexm6542

Жыл бұрын

One of them was set on continues, but he said that it was interesting. I don't think it was supposed to be on continues.

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Devices are all set to temporal three so I'm not sure how one started doing continuous tone obviously something wrong inside the device

@joeycaridi3030

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric Probably a technician that installed that device accidentally set it to continuous where's it would be originally set on code-3 low volume because it was too loud for this space on high volume

Is the sync video already done? 8:48

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@ObamnaSoda513

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric when will it be out

I think maybe what people mean by "false alarm" is that the alarm went off but no fire... Maybe it's just an incorrect use of the term...? " noun: false alarm; plural noun: false alarms a false report of a fire to a fire department. a warning given about something that fails to happen. " - Google Search I guess using this definition, it's correct... There was a "report" of a fire, but no fire present.

When students do this, its not funny, if the fire department has to come out to search for fire and there is no fire, its just wasting their time and if they got another call which is an ACTUAL fire, their response time is delayed and people may get injured.

@dennisnichols7123

Жыл бұрын

In most jurisdictions its a criminal act to knowingly activate a fire alarm when no emergency exists. Here in California its a misdemeanor and turns into a felony if someone is hurt or killed as a result of the fire department responding or in the process of evacuation.

@mjojo1000

Жыл бұрын

That's true

What happened to the kid

What happened to that kid

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Probably got told to stop doing acrobatic flips and stuff in the hallway

Looks like someone needs to remember to clean their camera lense before recording.. False alarm SIMPLY means accidental OR no actual fire/emergency.. come on now dude

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Looks like someone needs a reminder that my job is my priority and sometimes there isn't time to wipe down your phone before

@DigitalIP

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric Valid point, but if you know you're going to record you could do it while you're walking with your shirt

I know this is 2 weeks old but you school is really big and also I know you have permission to stay in the building and record but if a person was in the elevator during the fire alarm they be in big trouble but not you because of your permission and key

@nics-systems-electric

Жыл бұрын

Yes however it depends on the building and they are changing the rules and codes around elevators and fire as you saw the elevator did not go into Fire recall as it was a pull station the elevators only go into recall if it is a smoke detector and this building might actually be only specific elevator lobby smoke detectors and elevator shaft which it is going to start being allowed to use elevators in a fire alarm as systems get more advanced to be able to only do elevator recall if it is absolutely necessary if there is smoke detected right outside of the elevator then obviously you don't want it to be able to be used but otherwise it can be good to still have it operable to evacuate handicapped occupants

@rockstar5919

Жыл бұрын

@@nics-systems-electric oh nice thx great video btw

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