Finding Proof for Your Family History and Genealogy

In a criminal court of law, you need to prove someone's guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt. Similarly in genealogy, we need to have evidence that after “reasonably exhaustive research,” the evidence points to a solid conclusion. In this process we're searching for all records possible and we are weighing the evidence for its validity.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 What if there isn’t enough evidence?
1:17 Do you have a research question?
2:01 Have you searched your own personal archives?
2:22 What is your primary platform?
3:11 Searching from the card catalog.
4:02 Searched for other members’ trees?
4:18 Contacted close family?
4:36 Have you transcribed your records?
5:07 Start research notes
5:27 Using a secondary research platform
9:19 You looked everywhere, now what?
9:45 Research the F.A.N. club members.
10:25 Let’s talk about research notes.
11:30 Focus on your research question.
12:05 Evidence evaluation.
12:34 Primary vs. Secondary evidence.
13:39 Genealogical Proof Standards
14:35 Wrap-up
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  • @deborahtanner354
    @deborahtanner354 Жыл бұрын

    Great info! This what I struggle with!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your support Deborah.

  • @supernana7944
    @supernana7944 Жыл бұрын

    Mt grandmother's sister was just a family rumor until I found her unmarked grave. She was only a few months old and passed when they were visiting family in a neighboring state. I can't describe the joy of proving she actually existed!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Great work.

  • @conniemurdoch8528
    @conniemurdoch8528 Жыл бұрын

    You mentioned agricultural census. In Canada we only did that in the 1851 census. My Dad was beside himself when we found that. My Dad was a farmer, like this ancestor - his great grandfather. The first time he read it he was critiquing his farming practices. He went through each column and looked at the number of acres he grew that crop on. I had so much fun defending his own great grandfather. We were in the public library on the fiche machine and the more excited he got the louder he got. The librarian (who was a close family friend) kept coming over and telling him “Albert!! I am going to ask you to leave if you don’t lower your voice!” . She was joking of course! We were the only people in the library. She just loved teasing him just as he’d teased her when we were all kids.The schedule I printed out for him was one of his most prized possessions. Whenever he got to talking about his ancestors he would pull that out and ask “Do you know what a mangelwurzel is?”. Then he would recall in detail all of the crops that his ancestor had grown 130 years ago! I love those memories of working on research with him. I always have a good giggle out loud when I remember him in the library being shushed by a kid that had played in our yard when his own kids were little. I sure wish he was around when DNA came out. My two brick walls that we had back then are still standing. But they have a few bricks that have fallen down. I just hope I can find enough info to get there!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Great story. Copy and paste it into your family history records. Good stuff.

  • @xythiria4385
    @xythiria4385 Жыл бұрын

    This is a fabulous video! Your videos are how I learned to break through my 3rd Great Grandmother brick wall and I will forever be grateful. It took a long time and lots of research but I followed each of your tips and I am now 95% sure I have her family. The biggest thing was the simplest thing, what was my research question? My primary question was always who were her parents but then I focused on something else. How did a 21 year old female get to Illinois from New York in 1850? Did she have family there already? I think I now know more about the county she lived in then the one I grew up in :) I never got a smoking gun though and the research notes helped with this. As far as official documents I only have census records and a marriage record mentioning her but I had a lot of small pieces of circumstantial evidence that when viewed as a whole made sense.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Yay! Fantastic. Woo-Hoo! Rock on!

  • @webgen004

    @webgen004

    Жыл бұрын

    I always love to hear about people breaking through a brick wall. Even when I'm not the one who broke it. I often tell people, "go AROUND" the brick wall. Flank it!

  • @richardoneal1055
    @richardoneal1055 Жыл бұрын

    Even with as many records that have been published by the LDS and Ancestry, there's still no substitute for local court records, local historical societies, and state archives. And plan to make multiple trips to each because you can't cover all in one trip, including talking to local historians.

  • @JPaulHawthorne
    @JPaulHawthorne Жыл бұрын

    This is definitely one of my favorite videos! Kudos on your editing and video expertise, too!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks Paul.

  • @borreliaetc

    @borreliaetc

    Жыл бұрын

    I very much agree! Great job here, Connie.

  • @JimHegarty-mh7jn
    @JimHegarty-mh7jn Жыл бұрын

    With each and every video I always find another learning moment, thanks.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it! Thanks Jim. That's my goal.

  • @70CloneJT
    @70CloneJT Жыл бұрын

    Your videos have made me a much better with genealogy research. Most find a few records, lock it in, and move on. This disciplined approach helped me correct several families and find other lines and unknown children. I recently found a document that had a different count of children than the Census that led me to find a cousin that no one knew of. Thanks!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you

  • @timeforchange3786
    @timeforchange3786 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thanks 😊 You have the best genealogy videos! You and Crista Cowan are my absolute favorites 💓

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @khamilton7537
    @khamilton7537 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic stuff and I can hardly wait to dig in! 😊

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Thanks.

  • @gfjchs3n1
    @gfjchs3n1 Жыл бұрын

    You are always helpful. I also found that the Social Security applications of the early days has great info.

  • @TimothyCote
    @TimothyCote Жыл бұрын

    This was great information. My issues are that the main things to confirm are in French. Majority are from Quebec. They have great records for baptisms, marriages, and births, but I can't read them. We sort of lost the language when our families decided to sign documents to disown the Queen, and become citizens of the US. They came to the US> Dakota Territory. It was just becoming a state when they started migrating there. The census records are great, but some are township records. You have many families listed. And to read their writing. Thanks again for the information.

  • @mandypratley9723
    @mandypratley9723 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video Connie 😀👍

  • @junebutka6571
    @junebutka6571 Жыл бұрын

    Transcribing records provides many clues for Floating tree research from the F.A.N. Club.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Hi June.

  • @naomifron4545
    @naomifron4545 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video and so much information, as usual. I do have a question. Have you done any videos on finding an unknown parent of an ancestor. I know you had your Rebecca Henley mystery. I can't do the FAN Club search as I would need the 1890 Census and we know what happened to that. Is there a way to search a census using surnames only, I have two locations that I want to look at because grandfather was not born in same state where his mother lived. It's all very confusing. Anyway, I so enjoy your videos and learn so much although I haven't been as active lately. You are awesome!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. On Ancestry>Search tab> Census then only use the surname. Alternatively do this from the card catalog. Also see this video 1890 US Census Substitutes kzread.info/dash/bejne/qol2zJuLadS5m5c.html

  • @naomifron4545

    @naomifron4545

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GenealogyTV Thank you Connie.

  • @debraphillips1652
    @debraphillips1652 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @MuchMoreMatt
    @MuchMoreMatt Жыл бұрын

    A couple days ago I found my 5th great grandfather, the father of my 4th great grandfather, James, from whom I inherit my surname. I was building upon the work of my grandfather and aunt. Since James was born approximately 1800, our best effort was to find people with the same surname as James living in the area he was born. My aunt believed our guy to be Joel, who was living in the corroect county in 1800 that James was born. However, Joel cannot be found on any census thereafter. If Joel was our guy, it was very doubtful. Turns out we erroneously believed that we had performed a reasonably exhaustive search for all potential fathers for James. Another guy named Jonathan was living in the correct county that James was born. Even better is Jonathan shows up on the 1800, 1810, and 1830 censuses in that county. What's more is that Daniel, the father of James' wife, is on the same 1810 census as Jonathan, just one page apart! Prior to 2 days ago, we knew next to nothing of who James' father could be. Our best candidate stood on shaky grounds. In just 2 days of discovering Jonathan, we realized James could have met his wife during childhood, we had a more detailed path of migration James took through the region, and we understood why certain tidbits appeared on later census records. Things made much more sense with Jonathan. Best part is I earned my grandfather's sesl of approval.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Good detective work

  • @CamoJan
    @CamoJan Жыл бұрын

    I'm kinda surprised that American Ancestors (NEHGS) wasn't mentioned as a secondary source. I've used them to find info of New England ancestors that were not found in the big companies' records. Great video none the less!!

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Point taken. Yes, great company. Thanks for the compliment.

  • @borreliaetc
    @borreliaetc Жыл бұрын

    I love the cartoon Connie!! 😅

  • @KimberlyGreen
    @KimberlyGreen Жыл бұрын

    One useful technique for "reasonably exhaustive research" is to ask "How do you know?" It challlenges you, like a toddler always asking "why", to have solid evidence to back up your assumption / claim / fact.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Great tip! Funny you say that... I did a video called How do you know that record belongs to your ancestor? Evidence Analysis and Correlation kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJag2MqAZdOWZLw.html

  • @carolbianchi7852
    @carolbianchi7852 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, as usual, for both beginners and those of us who need reminding! 😂 I have a process question for you. I use FamilyTreeMaker, synced with Ancestry (primary) and FamilySearch (secondary) for all those great Italian docs. Can you give us a recommended process for getting those (secondary) docs with citations attached into Ancestry tree. Would you attach from FS into FTM first, then sync into Ancestry? Not sure how that would end up. Anyway, if you’ve already done a video on this, please let us know (not sure how I missed it) otherwise, greatly appreciate the advice. Ciao for now! 😊

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the best way is to download it from FamilySearch to your computer, add it to FTM, then when you sync to Ancestry it will upload as an image. You'll need to add the source yourself. Alternatively, you could use the "Add a Weblink" to the record in your Ancestors profile.

  • @carolbianchi7852

    @carolbianchi7852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GenealogyTV awesome! Thanks so much!

  • @hemichallenger3643
    @hemichallenger3643 Жыл бұрын

    I spend quite a bit of time on Facebook, for the living cousins while working on my cousin matches. Do I need to include the living? No, not really. But It is cool to have a tree for say 5 generations basically perfect up to 2022. It is rare, not everyone has enough public info to snag. Side note. A neat thing I had the other day. I was working through a branch and when I got as far as I could with kids and grandkids etc. When I went back and admired the tree, I noticed a different icon. Normally there is a blue circle with a white DNA icon inside. This new icon was white circle and a blue DNA icon inside. I was like hmmm why is it basically backwards or inside out kind of. So when I clicked on it, it said it was a suggested DNA match, as opposed to a verified DNA match. I was awestruck. I hadn't seen that before. And dude, I have to say that was exciting. What would be cool is to see a list of "suggested" matches. I suspect, because I had every person in the family it suggested the right person because I had every piece of information? So it made me hopeful that at some point the living people I have added may actually get tied to DNA without me searching. Because some DNA matches names aren't completely useful for figuring out where they belong. One of the annoying parts for anonymity I suppose.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    That person likely had just taken a DNA test and matched themselves in a tree similar to yours. Lucky find.

  • @learningcurvenz
    @learningcurvenz Жыл бұрын

    Connie, do you find your Family History Software unsuitable or limiting for your research notes? Wouldn't it be great if you could cut and paste into your Legacy file or whatever you use?

  • @learningcurvenz

    @learningcurvenz

    Жыл бұрын

    I am wondering now if I have just answered my own question. How can I use Microsoft one Note which I love for my research notes? Hmmm🤔

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    This is where my 200 Year Rule comes in. Whatever you use, will someone be able to read it 200 years from now. Will One Note be around? Will the software be around? My money is on MS Word. It can easily be read by simple text readers. I write all my research notes in Word and save them in my computer and on the cloud. I've not seen any software that I can put proper research notes into and continually update them like I do in Word. I could upload my Word document to the software, but then I'd have to update it constantly, so I choose to not upload them to public services. That's my two cents.

  • @michellebarlondsmith6243
    @michellebarlondsmith6243 Жыл бұрын

    You are GPR .... thanks for the tips ...

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to help

  • @Kay-Living-my-Way
    @Kay-Living-my-Way Жыл бұрын

    Hi I enjoy our videos and have learned a lot from them. I am in the process of archiving documents and items. I have found conflicting information on how to handle old photo albums and scrapbooks. I was wondering how you would approach this. Do you keep them intact after taking pictures of them? How would you store it? Do you put paper between each page? or do you take them apart and put the pictures/items in archive safe new albums or scrapbook? If you could answer here, email me or mention it in a video, I would appreciate it. Thank you

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Kay... great question. I'm going to do a video about your questions. It will be out in a couple of weeks. :)

  • @Kay-Living-my-Way

    @Kay-Living-my-Way

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GenealogyTV Thank you very much that would be great. It is a large project and any help you can provide would be appreciated.

  • @woodturner1954
    @woodturner1954 Жыл бұрын

    Ancestries card catalog can work but most of the time it gives a result with 10 or 459 or 3598 result pages to fan through. Also the records are in now way organized. It would be nice if they offered a way to index by name or something else. If looking for William T Barnes I invariably get a list with WM Barnes, William Barnes, Jeff Barnes, Charlie Barnes, Steve Barnes, William Taylor Barnes, etc and 4378 additional pages to look through. Even your examples should 200 400 plus page results. Do you really go through every page? There's got to be a better way.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    No. That's where I start filtering. Use the sliders on the left to make some of the details more precise. You can edit and add facts to fields to help narrow it down too. Also, sort by record count in the upper right corner for larger databases and better odds of finding something. It's just a matter of playing with the filtering to start narrowing your search. Also various names or initials might help too.

  • @StoneCastleSystems
    @StoneCastleSystems Жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to find out what happened to my 4th Great Grandfather William Fuller. There was a Big court case him against the United States Post office. The court was southern district of new york. He was accused to forgery against the post office. I found the court docket that has his indiciment with 60 charges against him but haven't been able to find the verdict if he was found guilty. I'm thinking if he was found guilty, maybe that's why i can't find his death record, if he was locked up the rest of his life and can't find where he's buried at. The trial for him for the dates i have was 1858 -1863. I contacted the national archives and they didn't have anything else on the verdict. If he was locked up in jail in new york, it would have been sing sing prison or auburn prison. If he died in there. Would that be another place where i can find death record from those places? He's also not buried with his wife or kids, so maybe he could be in a jail cemetery somewhere in ny for one of those prisions perhaps if he was guilty.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing it was written about in the papers. Have you followed the case in the newspapers?

  • @StoneCastleSystems

    @StoneCastleSystems

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GenealogyTV Yes, I have. The last Newspaper article I found is dated June 29 1858. It's says grand jury was discharged. Court docket claims the case went on until 1863. However i find no other papers so far after that day. Only then and before, which is very strange.

  • @KimberlyGreen

    @KimberlyGreen

    Жыл бұрын

    This may sound a bit extreme ... but how about hiring a lawyer (or paralegal) to track down the results of the case? They have expert knowledge on where to look and also access because of their credentials.

  • @StoneCastleSystems

    @StoneCastleSystems

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KimberlyGreen interesting, even from cases from 1858-1863 time frame?

  • @KimberlyGreen

    @KimberlyGreen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StoneCastleSystems Sure. Case law is built on outcomes. And some case law extends back centuries. Just think of all those massive, musty law libraries stuffed with old books, etc. It might take a minute to find a lawyer willing & interested, but if the outcome is that important to your research, you'd find one I'm sure. Since the case took place in NY, that's where I'd look for lawyers. The NY Bar Assoc. might even be able to direct you to a lawyer with the right skills & background.

  • @deborahleroy5323
    @deborahleroy5323 Жыл бұрын

    I was wonder how a person would locate a owner of a grave lot with multiple graves without having the cemetery genealogy department doing it for 60 to 70 dollars a hour. There is also no family to ask about it.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    You might look on Find-A-Grave.com, BillionGraves.com, or Cemetery Census.

  • @earlinemcgahen3931
    @earlinemcgahen39319 ай бұрын

    Local historical society

  • @rudged123
    @rudged123Ай бұрын

    How do you publish a genealogical proof summary tracing the evidence that establishes your descent from your ancestors without opening yourself up to identity theft? I've written one up for my paternal line that refers to both traditional genealogical records such as birth certificates and DNA evidence. But as I approach the point of publishing my findings, I find myself wondering whether sharing my full name, the full names of my parents, where I was born, my birth certificate etc. will expose me to the possibility of identity theft. I could exclude the information about me, but if I do, repeated references to matches to my DNA results that appear in the balance of the genealogical proof summary will fall flat because the volume won't definitively establish how I know I am the son of my father.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Ай бұрын

    On the public copy replace your name and your parents if you choose to read [held for private use] in brackets. You do the same and source citations when you have an address or personal email address. The reader is just going have to trust that you have the proof.

  • @rudged123

    @rudged123

    Ай бұрын

    @@GenealogyTV Thanks!

  • @tjwhite1963
    @tjwhite1963 Жыл бұрын

    Connie -- PLEASE do one on proving biological relationships using only DNA evidence. Both my Mom AND her late Mom were the results of NPEs, which is almost like finding out that they were adopted. Establishing proof will help with lineage societies, etc. Thanks! (I'm expert level with the DNA analysis, but I can use some help with the proofs.)

  • @deborahleroy5323
    @deborahleroy5323 Жыл бұрын

    DNA doesn't lie.

  • @debraphillips1652
    @debraphillips1652 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy watching your videos. I’m trying to renew my subscription to get handouts for $9.99 a month. It won’t accept my Visa card, I don’t use PayPal at all. Please help me

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Debra, I think we emailed about this. You're going to need to work with KZread on that. Alternatively, you could try to purchase the ones you want at GenealogyTV.org/Handouts. If you can figure it out on KZread, it is cheaper that way.

  • @rjb6327
    @rjb6327 Жыл бұрын

    Connie, I have a question. Am I wrong with the following statement: 🤔 DNA results are based on the number of people that have actually supplied DNA in each country, so if 500 people in Ireland supplied DNA and 5000 supplied DNA in England, the results will probably give you a higher percentage of matches in England even though your family may have originated in Ireland. So you can't say "Yea I'm English". You're really Irish. The migration of people has a lot to do with your results also. If your family originates in Ireland and the majority migrates to England and prospers there but the remaining Irish dwindle, your results will show you're English when in fact you are Irish. So your results do not show you your original nationality only where the majority of your DNA now lives. Thanks for your time.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really. What you're missing is a weighting factor. The percentages are going to be weighted. Then your DNA ethnicity results are going to be calculated using that weighted percentage based on the number of people in a reference panel. It's complicated. Your example would make sense if the math were that easy. You are compared to a reference panel for ethnicity results and weighted based on how many are in the reference panel for a given region. More from Ancestry "AncestryDNA calculates your ethnicity estimate by comparing your DNA to a reference panel made up of DNA samples from more than 68,000 people, representing 84 different populations. Because our reference panel and the way we analyze your DNA both change as we get more data, your ethnicity results can change as we get more data, too. Ethnicity estimates support article -Click here for a deeper dive into ethnicity estimates." support.ancestry.com/s/article/AncestryDNA-Ethnicity?language=en_US

  • @paulaseiple336
    @paulaseiple336 Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Google.

  • @GenealogyTV

    @GenealogyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @JanS-yi1vp
    @JanS-yi1vp Жыл бұрын

    How can I prove my son's are my sons? Hiw can u prove I'm my dad's son... ...??

  • @borreliaetc

    @borreliaetc

    Жыл бұрын

    DNA will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. I have my mother's DNA and my brother's. I know for sure we are full siblings as we share 48% DNA. Most people do accept 1st and 2nd degree relationships by using yourself as a source. Your birth (and your children's) should be on record with your parents named.

  • @GenealogyTV

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    DNA for sure.