I appreciate all the reloaders putting out content. I started loading 4 years ago and without you guys I would be lost.

Love your videos. I Love that you take Eric’s method and apply it to help explain the process I subscribe to Eric’s Patreon and your videos are a great help applying his method. His channel is better because of you and your channel is better because of him! Both of you are great

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick!

I only came across your channel recently and myself even made a comment about a scope that in my opinion wouldn’t be good enough to find a good node and sure enough keep following the series and you changed it out and I felt like a fool. You have very solid content and I for one am pretty darn impressed with this channel. I can’t stop watching

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it.

It's so nice to see your data and compare it to my own as I go through the load dev process! Looking forward to the next installment. 🙂 Thank you!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I personally find all this " needless data" very interesting. I watch both of you and all most always pick up something. This IS a very enjoyable part of my life. a place to seek perfection so please continue to split these reloading hairs. Thank You, Sir

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ed, glad you enjoy!

I watched your video, "Stop Chasing the Lands..." after I had watched EC's video several months before. Your video gave me information to better understand EC's video, and I had to go back and watch his again. EC's was kind of the "Cliff Notes" version where yours had more detail, like a full publication, which made a more clear picture for me. Keep up the good work

Wow, that guy who made that comment has a miserable life. I really appreciate all the work you do, I've learned so much and progressed quickly. I've found my .308 charge with Varget 44grs 8 ES 4 SD and 44.2 6 ES and 3.1 SD. I'm now going to do this test at 44.1 and make my first 1k yard shot next month. Your content along has helped me quite a bit.

I like that you're trying out the EC method, I used his method and yes it worked great. Flip side, almost everything I do has been influenced by your meticulous methods and have gotten my Ruger American 6.5 CM shooting .27" groups at 100. Thanks for all the content and detailed information you always provide. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words and Merry Christmas to you as well!

@ewetho

3 жыл бұрын

I think the work MoparMadman has done here on BoltActionReloading showing all the different parts make a difference and how to make more consistent ammo at each step is invaluable... I have gone to Mandrel sizing of necks on 45-70, 445 SuperMag, 357 Max, and 22-250 so far.. I really enjoy his work. Erik kind of have us a plan and so far it really seems to be a easy workable plan. Also so far seemingly verified and functionally accurate as well. Add is all the other little things we have learned like mandrel neck sizing, annealing, full length bump sizing etc already and many of which Erik also uses and you get the idea we are distilling a very productive method... One day soon we hope we can have the components to answer the last question I really have which is does neck tension just change the formula or is there truly best setting... Gonna eat some serious components in this time of shortage so probably gonna have to wait a while on that answer...

I always enjoy the work you put into the videos and how you go the extra mile to be precise! I’m learning with you!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I really appreciate everything you do and how you explain things. I saw the “negative” comments you mentioned in your video regarding relevance of all of this research to a hunting rifle. However, people need to understand that there are many reasons to reload - save money, accuracy, tailor loads... One interest that I suspect that we and many of your watchers have in common, is that we get enjoyment strictly from the pursuit of making the best loads possible - most consistent, least run-out, lowest ED & SD, best accuracy. This is great fun in itself, and the rewards of better long range accuracy, cleaner kills, better confidence in your loads, and more shooting, come with the results. I get so much info and so many ideas from you, Eric Cortina, and F-Class John. As mentioned in comments below, all of you really compliment each other by explain and approaching things from different directions. I really like your methodical and data driven approach to the concepts that Eric presents - it helps me to understand the ideas better. Even though I don’t have access to a 1000 yd range out East, I enjoy making great ammo and hope to one day be able to test my loads at 1000+ yds. Keep up the great work!!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

HI Mike, Glad you are enjoying the content. I am not here to prove anyone right or wrong, just hopefully point someone in the right direction without wasting a ton of time or components, unless your into that, then go for it. One thing about the internet is everyone with a keyboard knows more than you do. (and some do) I have had great feedback from lots of people and try to use it to improve my presentation and content overall. I don't always hit the target, but I am trying. Thanks for the encouragement! BAR

Another great video. Thanks for helping me streamline my reloading process!!

Great stuff! I just finished working up a load in 6 creed, with 115 DTACS, RL16, Peterson LRP brass, and CCI BR2 primers, deciding on velocity data only, with an SD of 5, and ES of 13, averaging 2948 fps with 39.8 grains, with a CBTO at 0.030” off the lands. Luckily, it still feeds from AICS mags, as 115 gr DTACs are on the long side. Ended up with 0.5 MOA groups consistently at 100 yards on my 24 lb PRS rig. I’ve used LOTS of your technical videos as a resource in load development. Thank you!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy them.

Thank you for all your hard work and effort. I appreciate the technical aspect, it's right up my alley. I have just started reloading again, a passion I abandoned to raise a family 35 years ago. I was disappointed to see the shortage of components, namely primers. I have come to the conclusion that primers do have a shelf life. If available, I would just have discarded my old stash, but I must use them. No misfires, but I can't find any consistent velocities. There's always one or two in the string that spoil the ES. I Would be grateful for your thoughts; I get so many different opinions. Thanks again. Robarry.

WE watch the same folk! I agree with everything you showed. I would add that some very experienced long range shooters back in the 70's understood Boyle's Law that says that pressure is inversely related to the volume and would find the jump that produced the best groups and maintain that same jump for the life of the throat until an adjustment of two grains would no longer maintain the velocity. Eric was a baby then.

SO HELPFUL! Bookmarked this video.

I have learned a lot on this channel. Thanks

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Great video! Thank you for doing this!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Great video. I’ve been struggling with this part

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Its not always this easy. I think I got lucky with the primer options I picked giving such clean data. I have ran something similar in 308 and Varget and struggled till I found a better primer combination.

I have loaded up a couple of 12 shot test with different powders, after reading Erik's 100+ page post on accurate shooter on long range load development at 100 yds I was going to pull them and load how he suggested there. However that original post is 7 or 8 years old. Now after seeing how he does it now makes me glad I didn't pull them and I am still going to try the 12 shot strings with chronograph. Thanks BoltAction Reloading for sharing this video. I am now on his patreon and watched his 4 videos.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video.

@tadeloach22

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading are you consistently finding velocity nodes to test? So many people hate this method and some swear by it. I'm going to try it myself with my 308 with 168 Sierra TMKs and IMR 4166 and 4895. I will be using magneto speed for the first step. I am going to have to get a better seating die for that test.

Always good data

Great video as always

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Great video. Looking forward to more.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I think it's crazy that someone would negatively criticize someone who puts so much work and effort into putting together informative videos. If someone dislikes one of my videos, I get it, because I have shitty production quality and can only apply so much time and effort into them since I'm a new father. I basically fly by the seat of my pants and toss things together when I can. This stuff is great, though, and it astounds me that some people can't appreciate the effort.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Plenty of folks out there. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. A lot of guys find videos for the first time and don't have any history with the channel. Everyone has to start somewhere.

amen brother.. keep em coming rl16 is my go to over 4350 lol

Thanks for the information and video. I watch Eric on KZread. So I don’t get all of his information. And I appreciate your help.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

Thank you! So much information

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Good stuff. Thank you

Good series

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I think that a lot of people will understand the process better if they see a complete example.

Great video can’t wait for the next segment, btw hybrid 100v my new favorite for 6.5

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying it. There are certainly more options than H4350. I am excited to give staball 6.5 a try. Maybe even N555 if I can find it local.

@jb-dc1tt

3 жыл бұрын

I found staball local and loaded up a ladder test just haven’t shot it yet I hope it’s does as good as rl-16 and 100v

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

JRB tested it a little and the results looked promising. I picked up a couple pounds to see how it went.

Great videos...I wouldn't spend another minute justifying what you do. I'd be curious to see what happens in 0.1 gr steps after you dial your seating depth. Start half a grain low and go half a grain high just to double down on the data and see just how wide your window is. I'm excited to try these methods when I get some primers. I just picked up a labradar, my first chrony, and I'm itching to check some old loads and work up some new. Thanks for the content!

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken, ibam going to try and follow the process to the letter as much as possible and see where it gets.

@kenginter6112

3 жыл бұрын

We will be watching. Got a pair of teenagers watching along also...

Keep up the good work

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Velocity nodes and accuracy nodes are two different things. You can have zero velocity change and shoot shotgun patterns. I will take accuracy over super consistent velocity, because velocity doesn't matter if it shoots straight.

@Do-UR-Research2749

2 жыл бұрын

You need both to shoot accurately at long range. High ES and DS will give you vertical issues, either push you over the top or bottom of the target.

Regarding that person who made the comment shown around 1:20, I see their point if you're hunting deer or similarly sized game. But what about someone who, I don't know, wants to head-shot a rabbit at 200m with a Tikka T3x .223? Just to give a random example ;-) Mr. Bolt Action Reloading: your video are gold! Rigorous testing, data and minimal waffle. Gold, I say, gold! Keep on doing what you're doing. You're awesom.

Great Data brother,you are not doing this work in Vain,we know you love what you do,thanks for sharing.see ya soon.

This test is technically statistically sound if the same conditions are met, and if someone complaineds about it I'd like to see their college paper work 🎓😁

I like the channel. There’s a lot of data. Sometimes we need data. I’m not gonna do all these tests. Lol. It’s cool that you do though.

@BoltActionReloading

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy the channel. I really like running tests to try and understand why certain things work better / different than others. I figured it would be better if everyone could benefit as well. Real life is way better than 1000 opinions. (IMO)

Awesome

I would jump right in again if I could find any damm primers! Jesus!!! I’ve been looking for 2 months everywhere and nothing!

@mtnshooter2487

3 жыл бұрын

It's the same here in Kali. I also had the same problem in AZ. limit of 2 boxes. (100) ea.

@RetrieverTrainingAlone

3 жыл бұрын

I have thousands of primers up here in Alaska as for years they were on the shelf in packs of 1000, but there is no rifle powder on the shelfs and internet sources will not ship powder to AK.

@mtnshooter2487

3 жыл бұрын

@@RetrieverTrainingAlone Ouch Missy !

@RVsales

3 жыл бұрын

@@RetrieverTrainingAlone trade powder for primers?

@mattfleming86

3 жыл бұрын

It's slowly getting marginally better. I picked up 100 SPP the other day (there was literally a line) the next day they were all gone. guy at tue counter said it was their SECOND shipment in about a month. I scored 1000 remington 9 1/2's too. Nice to sit down and load this weekend without thinking "do I load, or do I save" Now for more SPP and some SRP.... i'm down to 80 SPP now so being very stingy there.. development only no loading just for shooting. I'm down to 500 SRP for the AR.

I don’t have a chrono yet so I’m doing this kind of stuff based on groups and shooting a waterline target at 100 yards. I did this load work up with a COAL of 2.800 (based off the loading manual). I liked the way this work up was shooting at 43.7-44.1 grains of Varget. My pressure test went up to 45.5 grains without any pressure signs. Now my question is if I were to introduce a COAL that’s .020 off my lands do I need to start over essentially with my pressure testing, or do I just load up my 43.7 load to the new COAL and be good to go since I had 1.5 grains or more headroom until seeing any pressure signs.

Does it matter if the lupua brass has been fire formed to the rifle before trying the most accurate powder charge for your rifle?

So when doing this test to find nodes and SD and ES do you you just fire one of each powder charge? And if so do you pick the one with the lowest ES and SD and then check that charge again with a chronograph to confirm that it has low SD and ES?

Those velocities are cooking! 2880-2920 is superfast for a 6.5 cm and a 143 bullet. I ran my 6.5 cm at 2830 with H4350 and my barrel was done before 2000 rounds lol.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

The 2 extra inches of barrel help get the velocities higher without pushing pressure too high.

Thank you for the video to help with Erik's method. My question, I bought Erik's Patreon and can't find what I'm looking for. I'm about to try this method other than Bergers method and I don't see how much rounds do we load at one powder charge for good data? I noticed you loaded one round at one powder charge, then went up .2 grains for the next shot. Erik mentions picking the best ES. Which I think 3 to 5 rounds, more the merrier, to help find good velocity data. Or is one good enough like you did? I'm probably overthinking this lol

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kenny in his video which is called "PRS load development part 3" he shows the data from the rounds loaded in part 2. He only uses 1 round per charge weight and he discusses picking the middle of the widest node. He mentioned doing more at each charge weight if you want to. (optional) If you are not as confident in your process do more. Its a trade off of time / barrel life/ and components. I think there is some confusion about a velocity node and a accuracy node as they are not the same as well. I am in the middle of another series on this on my channel as well so stick around. I hope that sometimes people learn better from examples. If you haven't seen them all I walk through most of the process steps in this playlist. kzread.info/head/PLXl7rMHW73NOH6EKeU70IrjZoiHcYFenq Feel free to ask questions, I try to respond. If I don't get back in a day or 2 feel free to ask again. Notification of comments on KZread isn't always perfect. Best of Luck! BAR

I love your goal to learn and to improve! How did you determine the correct powder charge? Was it due to a plateau at 42..6? Then you tested the 5-shot, 7-shot groups at that powder charge of 42.6 gr? Changing your cartridge over all length changes combustion or changes barrel harmonics?

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Missy, Since the velocity from 42.4 to 42.8 were basically the same I chose to load in the middle of those. (42.6) the 5 shot group was to validate that the nod was real and the 7 shot group was to see if I was still in that node (and to get the velocity so I could do my drop table for my hunting trip) The next step will be to to the barrel harmonic testing by changing the COAL.

@RetrieverTrainingAlone

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading Your first step is to find a "combustion node" so why not shoot 5-shot groups at each powder charge above 42.0 gr to get the combustion node that has the lowest velocity standard deviation? I might not understand, it seems like you have variation statistics standard deviation, extreme spread (n=5,7) only for one specific powder charge (42.6) not any other charges above or below? For examples it is unknown what a 5-shot std. dev/ ES would be at 42.6, 42.8 grains?

I watch reloading videos to learn from others experience. Thanks much for putting your techniques on youtube for us to learn from. I really appreciate the effort it takes to create a video, so thanks again. I started reloading 40 S&W for pistols soon after it was created and ammo sources were nonexistent. Then only recently got back into reloading (new press, etc) for .308 Win for AR10 and M1A rifles. So I’m a newby rifle reloader so learning all I can. Ignore the smarty pants negative comments from the ‘know-it-alls’.

I have found the 6.5 Creedmoor to be one of the easiest cartridges to work up a load for. Has anyone else found this?

Again, great vid. Thank You for the time & effort you put into these vids. I must say though, for the average guy & rifle, I don't believe this method is of any practical use. There was a discussion over on Snipers Hide about the Satterlee method & how it applies realistically. The major point here is that, Satterlee developed this method using data & previous results from his rifle system. Satterlee was operating from the assumption that the rifle system was capable & proven to produce very low velocity SD"s which, is imperative for this method to produce meaningful data. This method is a prime example of how we can all be influenced by our presuppositions wherein it is difficult to view the data in its true perspective without imposing our beliefs upon the results. Kind Regards...............Rotas

@kenginter6112

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly how is one rifle more capable than another in generating low SD's?

@rotasaustralis

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenginter6112 Well, it's more the barrel, chamber & ammunition I suppose. All I know for sure is that, without very low SD"s, the data can't be representative of what you're looking for; a flat velocity node. For example; if you choose 0.2 grn intervals &,, suppose the velocity difference average is expected to be between 15 & 20 ft/sec, you'd need an SD of less than 20 ft/sec which, is +/- 10 ft/sec in order to have any certainty that what appears to be a velocity node, isn't just shot to shot natural overlap distribution of that rifle system. Unless you have a rifle/ammunition system which is proven to produce very low ES/SD"s with that particular powder/bullet combo, the Satterlee method simply cannot be relied upon to produce reliable data. As for the rifle system generating low SD's, my rifles can & have produced SD's as low as 5.5 &, a few 9's but, they are the exception & not the rule with any of the rifles I have at the moment. Hopefully that will change in the near future but, my rifles certainly won't produce the required ES/SD's reliably enough to be searching for velocity differentials of 10 & 15, not even close. With my best reloads to date, my average SD's hover around 18 to 25. Nowhere near low enough to differentiate velocity differences of 10 to 15 or even 20 ft/sec. All I would be seeing is the natural gaussian distribution overlap & confusing that overlap with a velocity flat spot & nothing more. Regards..................Rotas

Good video. I'm curious about the accuracy of your powder scale? I.E. Your charge weights are moving in 0.2 grain increments, but I'm curious what the error bars on charge weight would be.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben, I use a fx120i and it can resolve a single kernel of powder. All these charges are within .02 gr

@benjaminfuller5527

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading It would be cool to see 20 rounds loaded at a given weight with 20 more loaded at 0.1 grain more (accuracy of many scales). Then fire them all else being equal, testing the difference in average velocity between the two. I.E. how much could a guy improve his velocity moving from .1grain scales to .02 grain scales. You may have already talked about this, I haven’t watched all your videos.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

If you are in an area with a wide node. I don't think it's really buying you much. I have loaded some combinations that just flat out didn't work out and it didn't matter how accurate the scale was. I understand what your looking for but its really impossible to resolve the difference there I think.

@benjaminfuller5527

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading Yeah that makes sense, it would be easy for the difference to be lost on the noise. I guess I am thinking of the scenario where you have found a combination that performs optimally in your gun, specifically in terms of SD and ES, using a scale that is accurate to 0.1 grains. It would be nice to put a number on how much your SD and ES should got down by moving to a better scale, on average. Most of us probably will never be able to measure it with the setups we have for velocity measurement and given the other factors involved. But if there was a way to demonstrate it, with statistical significance, I'd probably buy the better scale, depending on the purported potential improvement.

You put out good information! Don’t listen to the keyboard warriors. There is a saying in the military; “There is always one!” KZread personalities will always always have jack asses that feel they know better. Keep up the good work.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, no doubt about that!

Where can I buy primers? can I import them from russia, Brazil or Canada anymore? All my local shops are buying box ammo, profits are good for them on ammo these days.

whats combination for 308 cal powder and primer?

could you remind us which chronograph you are using for your data? New reloader here and am compiling equipment. I checked your amazon page and it was not listed. Thanks for the information you post, it is very educational.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I am actually using a magnetospeed for most of it, however I am transitioning to the labradar at the moment. I no longer shoot groups with my magnetospeed attached. I added links to my store for the magnetospeed. The labradar isn't in stock on amazon at the moment.

@medfloat5001

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading thanks, did you drop the magnetospeed because of harmonics? True Accuracy?

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I am going to eventually do a comparison on and off. Opinions are over the place. It will affect poi.

@soonersteve3733

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading if only POI is affected and I would think if the right components are used you would still have a good group?

WHO'S ERIC? He makes 3 vids and now he's the new guru of reloading on YT. No thank you.

@additudeobx

3 жыл бұрын

Search for Eric Cortina....

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Off Lapua's website: Erik Cortina is one of the top F-Class shooters in the US, and has had tremendous success at National and World F-Class Championships. Erik is Texas State Long Range Champion 3 years in a row and has also won a bronze medal in the World Championships. He also placed 3rd in F-Class Nationals. Recently, Erik also began shooting competitively in PRS in 2018, and won his first match at the SoTex club match on July 23. Erik also has his own his own KZread Channel with informative videos on shooting and reloading. You don't have to like him, but that doesn't make him wrong either. Anybody that can compete at his level can teach a lot of us a few things. IMO

@mtnshooter2487

3 жыл бұрын

@@additudeobx I guess You didnt read my note, ive watched 3 of his vids , Id rather watch Bolt Action Reloading, Panhandle Precision , David Tubb, Mid Topkins, Applied Ballistics, Paul Phillips.......

@yukon4545

3 жыл бұрын

3?

@mtnshooter2487

3 жыл бұрын

Yea , 3. then he starts wanting money. ah, if you want to follow him be my guest. But I'll follow who I want to follow. thank you.

? I got my lapua brass last week. It has 308 over 7.62x 51 under. Do I load as 308 commercial brass or military brass. Any information on this would be deeply appreciated. Thanks

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

You may want to take a internal case capacity measurement and see there it falls. I can't remember if I have measure this. I have been just using the 308 Winchester data form sierra.

@Dwayne7834

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading Thanks I will check

Has anybody loaded 6.5 Grendel with AR Comp and 110 gr maker trex ?

Do you use graphite/dry neck lube in the neck before seating the bullet?

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, Currently I do not. This is something that I intend to investigate at some point. I am trying not to go too many directions all at once. I really want to know what the exact product that Lou Merdica is using in his video with the AMP guys. Clearly he believes in it. He just calls it molly. I have seem others use the dry lube, not sure what's best or of it matters.

@craignmz5264

3 жыл бұрын

How about when you use the case neck expander?

@tomphillips2608

3 жыл бұрын

I tried this last week . 41 gr . H4350, cci br2 primers, Virgin peterson brass. 20 rounds, 10 graphite 10 clean necks. Absolutely no difference in group sizes. Yes, extremely small sample size. And Santa has to bring that magnetospeed on Christmas to really know if there is any real difference.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I do lube the inside case necks with graphite for the expander, but I use a case neck brush before I load them.

Scientific method should be repeatable so this is a good check to see if it is something that anyone can do :)

👍

Man I'm trying to get into reloading and a lot of this stuff is over my head 🤔

@andrewbeard6778

3 жыл бұрын

Start with pistol cartridges then move to rifle as you load more, more of this will make sense

@TJ-we7id

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbeard6778 funny I was going to say exactly the same thing! When you are ready to move into more precision loads, David Tubb has an excellent guide. Then Precision Shooting magazine put out an even better one for absurd accuracy

Are you loading 338LM on the Dillon 750?

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet, there is a post in the website about them working on the conversion kit, but it's not available yet from what I have seen.

I do not have a store close by my area to buy components whats so ever and the internet is not working out either

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Midsouth has several option in stock right now I wouldn't hesitate to try . If your waiting for h4350 then you may just be waiting.

@patruddiman4228

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading h1000 & n570 and magnum primers

@patruddiman4228

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading thanks

@mattfleming86

3 жыл бұрын

I changed grocery stores since Covid just to check 2 stores. Hour & 1/2drive for groceries is worth it. There is a decent amount of powder on the shelves here but primers are still extremely intermittent- and that's for LRP and LPP.

I have a shallow lead , my 140's can only take 40.0 of 4350 before the primers show pressure signs. so I dont have a lot of room to play with.

@zedoktor979

3 жыл бұрын

What primers are you using? Some are very soft and flatten early. Ejector swipe is the most consistent pressure sign. Because brass is brass for the most part

@mtnshooter2487

3 жыл бұрын

@@zedoktor979 starling large primer brass. Fed match primers, or WLR . The smith cut my chamber with a custom reamer, ment for benchrest matches.

Picking a "node" based on velocity does not insure the target will agree. Essentially all winning bench rest, Fclass, etc precision target shooters shoot a charge ladder on the target to identify the node resulting from barrel harmonic vibration, which does not affect velocity; and they will emphatically tell you the best accuracy generally does not relate to chrono statistics. In fact on the target you will see increasing charge weight and velocity will generate a sine wave point of impact response where faster bullets actually hits lower. This is also how rifle tuners work. Prove this to yourself; next time you run a single shot charge ladder, shoot it on the target as well and compare the results.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

HI Charles. Is there any chance you actually watched the whole video? This is 1 step of the method that Erik Cortina has put forth. This is not a find the velocity node and your done. This is a process. Erik might happen to be one of those "winning" F Class shooters that don't use this method. Except this is his method. The whole point of the series is proving it too myself. I agree if you just pick a charge you might not have the best groups. The next step is to adjust COAL to dial in your accuracy, then tuner. BAR

@charlesking8542

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading I did fast forwarded through a few areas. I have read many postings by EC, and up to this point have only seen him present charge weight tuning based on shooting a target. His long range tuning at 100yd post has had over 1000 replys; it is essentially the OCW method developed by Dan Newberry years before. On this basis I cannot say to what extent he relys on tuning with a chrono; on the otherhand many use it to improve loading consistency (eg brass prep) after a tuning has been developed. But again I know the vast majority do not rely on a chrono to tune for charge weight. As noted it is free to look at both during load development for better understanding.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Well Charles, this is his new one. It is not the same. If you are a Patreon of his then you could watch the step by step process that he goes through. It requires a chrono. I've had another poster reference something he posted in 2012, so I guess people are never change or update their methods. If you cared to watch the whole series posted in the playlist at the end you may get find of interest his updated methods.

I'm here just to make a random jerk ass comment. However I would be curious to hear your thoughts on things like the Taccom structured barrels and claims they are accurate regardless of reloading specs.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I am not familiar with them at all, so I guess I can't comment. If they worked better than everything else they would be on all the pros setups though.

@wildcat_reloading

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading the taccom structured barrels are theoreticaly designed and built to eliminate barrel harmonics, its a intresting consept, tho they are expensive and i think they take the fun out of reloading if they work

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

@@wildcat_reloading The engineering is interesting. I've only seen them in big cartridges used for ELR and ULR. Not for the average dude. Cost and not a lot of guys are shooting that style of shooting make them a niche product.

All that reasonability and still has a blue press in the background

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't actually loaded any of these tests on it yet. It is my winter project.

Yeah better results with less components used in a shorter period of time. If someone has a problem with a smarter/newer way of load development please do us all a favor and don't stock pile ammo or components. The rest of us will probably live longer anyway; consider it a small favor.

poor MOA even you spoke too much, should be 1/4", or at last 0.5" MOA.

I would like to see what you look like, Lean in on one of your videos for a second I promise no one will laugh.

@BoltActionReloading

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Not a laughing thing. I just don't need the attention. Hope you enjoy the content anyway.

@johnsimonelli9988

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoltActionReloading I always enjoy the content. Keep up the good work!

If you don't want to talk on camera , stop the annoying hand gestures .