Hands down the most honest review on this mouse yet.. Thank you from everyone who has pre-ordered!

@jamesvandorn2563

7 ай бұрын

I read this comment as the exact same words were coming out of my mouth. Lol

@dongdoodler

7 ай бұрын

The average weigh of a strawberry is 21.5 grams in 2023 please buy decent sized strawberries before you say their claim was fake your biggest strawberry was below average you should find a different strawberry supplier you are being screwed. I am not defending or hating on the mouse, I am eating strawberries right now and had to say give strawberries more credit.

Really respect the genuine honest and thorough review! I have the Lamzu Thorn here and this is my endgame. QC issue on the scroll wheel though. Sadly.

Thanks for being honest. For anyone who doesn't "get it", in by actually being honest, he can potentially be put on a 'list' that would bar him from potentially receiving products in the future. Reviewers can get on that list if if they perhaps stretch the truth. It's a bit more dishonest and corrupt than people think. Techne doesn't do that and that's why I know I can come here to get an honest review unlike some others.

@sethgrundy4617

7 ай бұрын

Fax

@zionpanza2347

7 ай бұрын

I bought a quest 3 VR headset, I was definitely baited into thinking it was better than it actually is. Turns out all of the people who reviewed it early had affiliate links in the description.

@HaloDaycare

7 ай бұрын

@@zionpanza2347 I am an affiliate and it's different for different people. Im one of those people who absolutely under no circumstances will I become an affiliate unless I genuinely like the product and won't spend my own money on it first. Not everyone is like that. But yeah, thats disappointing undoubtedly

@gorillaballsack3849

7 ай бұрын

@@zionpanza2347 is the meta quest 3 not good? i was planning on getting it, what didn't you like?

Very consistent review with everyone else’s review. Thanks for sharing. 😊

Got mine today. I've had good luck with Finalmouse in the past, so I really hoped I'd get a good copy. Mine has the same side flex you mentioned. It's so bad that just resting my pinky on it it flexes when I move the mouse around. Worse yet, it grinds a bit, so it's not even a smooth flex. I'm going to reach out to their support, but regardless I won't be using this innovative mouse.

Always appreciate the honesty.. something we need more of!

I like how honest you are. This gives so much value to your channel. Btw. I just got the Vaxee ax outset wireless. I totally fell in love with it and I could imagine you could really like it, too. And I am not sure how important the weight really is. I think it is overhyped.

@nipyboy1856

6 ай бұрын

The weight is superimportant and its the best mice on the market they have fixed all of the qc that this guy mentioned now and it will no longer flex anywhere

One of your best reviews. I really like your new studio

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

thanks a bunch

great honest review sir!

Honest review! I like that💯

I like it when companies strive for the lowest latency possible. When i upgraded from the g403 to the wired dav3 the latency difference was noticeable, especially for the clicks and gaming with lower latency is more fun. Also click latency and higher ping are very different things. If you have high click latency you need to lead your shots or track the target after clicking which makes hitting shots harder. For higher ping there's lag compensation in pretty much ervery modern game so there's no need to lead shots.

Fuck man, I'm so glad to see an honest review where someone shows every detail that we consumers ended up seeing until we get the product, example the tape under the battery, that to me is a 0/10 stinker and NO ONE from all the youtubers that yall know have mentioned that, so thank you Techne, you saved me $189.

My favorite place to learn about new mouse ❤

very well said at the end of the video

i love the new format

I’ve had 3 different starlights and still prefer my Lamzu Atlantis OG 4K.. still looking forward to the centerpiece, if that ever is a thing.

Love that intro it's perfect

I check like only 3-4 people for reviews about peripherals, and you are definitely one of those for the real and honest opinions, which is how everyone should be, never downplay the truth. The things that we are seeing with mouse (and other hardware too) companies, things that are overshadowed just by hype, specially on this overpriced delusional market, is just, unacceptable, for some of us of course, sadly is becoming the "norm" to allow them to sell stuff and use the customer as testers, worst part is when people "pre-order" stuff, even worst when they have an history of QC issues and being mediocre at dealing with the RMA processes that will get most people into a loop hole.

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it sucks man, hype sells more than quality. I don’t get it!

Ngl T, was hoping to see you take a bite out of the ULX after eating the strawberries. 😄 But seriously, the issues you pointed out are important for those of us who were considering at least attempting to buy this mouse. My DAV3 developed the same issue with creaking as yours did. It bothered me so much that I stopped using it and got the wired 8k model with the much better build, though it was much cheaper. So I can't even imagine buying a mouse with the same or worse issues. BTW, I've watched a few other reviews of this mouse, and they either minimized or totally ignored the issues you addressed, focusing instead on metrics such as click latency. I know FM has a history of crap QC, and it's possible that you got a bad one. But I'm now feeling OK about giving the ULX a pass.

I wanted to like this mouse, but thanks for the honest review!

I'm all for lightweight. But only until it start to affect build quality. Sounds like they crossed the line with this mouse.

@coyotex850

7 ай бұрын

i agree, lightweight mice are nice but when they make it light to the point its messing up the build quality thats a hard pass, mice from companies like vaxee and zowie are known to be built like absolute tanks and that's mainly because they dont try to make the lightest stuff imaginable

@Shyvorix

7 ай бұрын

@@coyotex850 Yea Vaxee has trimmed the weight down of their mice to the absolute bare minimum without affecting structural integrity but as a result they're not popular at all outside the tactical shooter scene (CSGO/2/Valorant). In areas like Apex, Fortnite, etc basically shooters with a fuckton of aiming and tracking, most prefer the lightweight as much as possible even if it affects structural integrity because it doesn't matter to them as much as weight since they're literally flinging the mouse around for 8-12 hours a day, every day, for months and even years. Ultimately, it depends on what you're looking for. Rock solid structure, or maximum weight loss.

@Ejziponken1

7 ай бұрын

@@coyotex850 I think there is a limit. But I also think some companies haven't really made the effort to push lower weights yet (like Zowie still at 80gish), and some are pushing a bit too hard for it. But I think the public also expects miracles. For each new mouse, if it's not lighter than the previous one, it's seen as a failure.

Considering buying this mouse seeing as problems are 50/50 and hoping to get a good one. However would it be reasonable to say that if I waited a while to go ahead and buy one (or get lucky enough to even buy one) I’d have better luck getting a solid copy as they work out kinks in production?

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I would hold out. It’s an expensive mouse to take a 50/50 chance

Hey Techne, what's your main mouse atm?

Thank you. I have weak joints but strong grip. I over compensate for my joint stability by over griping my mouse tight and I defiantly need good build quality. (looks like I'll just be upgrading to the superlight 2).

you have batch 1 of the Finalmouse ULX, newer batches fixed all of these issues.

I guess I got super lucky with my run 1 ULX phantom cause it has no flex issues. The only thing I dislike is the battery adhesive being in the open. They have said they are fixing that in the future ULX’s.

About the strawberry thing, i loved it but in Australia our strawberries are double that size. Still is a weird statement from them😂

buying this mouse for the shape alone, bought the very first finalmouse years ago and it finally died on me this last year, (click issue when scoping with awp on cs) but man ive bought so many mice and nothing beats this shape... just ordered the tarik drop today

My copy is the exact same way. It surpasses every other mouse I've used in terms of smoothness. But the flex and creaks and scratchy feelings really taint it. I've considered seeing if i can just rig it to a razer mini shell..

@kunai222

7 ай бұрын

just be happy you have yours jesus

@Wuufie

7 ай бұрын

@@kunai222 I'm sending it in for repairs, they already told me its not suppose to be like that. If I'm spending a lot on a mouse i expect it to be perfect. I get that mindset but why settle for unsatisfactory if its repairable.

@xythiera7255

6 ай бұрын

​@@WuufieIts still a plastic mouse you will never get the best quality thats why i dont think its worth the money or spezial enoth to justify buying into it .

The weight is amazing. The sensor feels great and i LOVE the clicks on all buttons more than any other mouse I've used. Unfortunately, the rest of the mouse feels CHEAP. It was advertised as being made of carbon fiber right? It feels like cheap/light plastic in my hand and literally no matter where I touch it, it flexes with VERY little effort. I'm pretty sure I could actually break this mouse, with just two fingers squeezing it on the palm rest. The size are already creaking and making popping sounds if I put the slightest amount of pressure on them, after about 20 hours of use. Honestly, I'm disappointed. I'm probably going to sell this on eBay and hope to break even, then buy the Razer Viper Mini SE when it goes up for sale again this weekend.

@ThaBootyBandit

7 ай бұрын

Did you sell it?

@xythiera7255

6 ай бұрын

You get it soled for more then you bought it 100€ no problem i did the same and now i got a Viper mini SE for the price i sold my Finalmouse . I just want also to be fair they never sayed it made out of Carbon fiber thats just to expensive to do . Its a Carbonfiber combosit so basicly plastic with carbonfibers reinforced to make the shell thinner loseing weight . It is still plastic in the end thats why it feels cheap . You can also just retrun it if it doesnt sell befor the return limit is over

Btw…you have lost weight, and your desk/backdrop is a bit cleaner? Looking sharp man. Thanks for the video. Think you may have helped me decide on another product.

Praying for the day when finalmouse has good qc

Love the shape since the starlight medium but the QC has been very disappointing to say the least. Wish there was a shape clone that is more accessible. great review!

@comkioxd

7 ай бұрын

that would be the WLmouse Beast X, enjoy

@nipyboy1856

6 ай бұрын

​@@comkioxdthey fixed the ulx mice and the beast x is not as good at all.

@xythiera7255

6 ай бұрын

WLmouse X they now also have a mini comeing out .

Can you say any mouse that could be better than the ulx?

my copy was pretty good, I think ulx is getting a bit too much hate and scrutiny because its finalmouse.

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

I wanted to live this mouse. Again not hating here, but I’m not going to jump on the hype. It’s a bad product.

oh really? what other mouses can I get with >1000Hz polling rate that's lighter than the Razer Viper 8k that's also not a razer product?

Love watching stuff like this real honesty. I don’t think I’ll ever touch a different mouse from the 502 line but it’s interesting to see how the industry moves forward

@humorss

7 ай бұрын

because you have not touched the 304/305.

@thats_alot_of_bees3993

7 ай бұрын

@@humorss I don’t like ambidextrous mouse designs

what are the better options?

The lowest possible 1k polling possible is what convinced me to buy it. I can deal with all the other flaws

After seeing the side flex I think I will take a chance on the Sprime PM1 instead 7 more grams for a g703 shape is a trade I will take every time.

And this is why we love you, 👍😎

whats better hyperx wireless 2 or hyperx wireless 3?

Hey i have the razer viper v2 pro. I love the length and low profile hump. Which final mouse is the closest to the size of the viper v2 pro

Techne whats ur hand size?

I'm 100% buying the Finalmouse ULX .. BUT in their Tiger LARGE size. I'm pretty damn certain I don't have jumbotron hands so I don't understand why people want these dinky mice?

Seems FinalMouse compromised on the structural integrity of the mouse and made some shortcuts to reach a target weight. They would have been better off shooting for a 40-42 gram weight target and building a more structurally sound mouse. IMO the Beast X is the better mouse of the two.

honestly never wanted one of them 🤷🏽‍♂️ the super hype honestly put me off so this is good to hear

I'm ok with the other things but that flex is a deal breaker=p. Maybe we gotta wait a few iterations before the fixed all the flaws, doesn't look like much of an upgrade from the UL.

Great honest review Techne! I was thinking of picking thos mouse up. But I've been actually moving away from these super light weight mice. I think my preferred range for fps is around 75 grams, 85 at the absolute max. I also want more buttons! Why can't we have fairly lightweight mice at around the 70 gram range?

@AnberlinRoxxforeal

7 ай бұрын

After owning and trying more mice than probably most aside from reviewers I can say even for someone with large hands like me and who competitively games. A mouse around 50g is the perfect weight. Light now a days LAMZU and PULSAR I would say are the best two companies on the market.

@fallenlegion1828

7 ай бұрын

@@AnberlinRoxxforeal which models of those do recommend?

@AnberlinRoxxforeal

7 ай бұрын

@@fallenlegion1828 most definitely my number would be the LAMZU Atlantis mini 4k which I’m pretty sure is still on Amazon or you can order from their website. My number 2 (a very close second) would be the Pulsar X2V2 mini. Ironically even with those being small mice and and me having large hands the way you grip and lock them in is like nothing else. Lamzu’s quality, coating and shape though is to be the absolute best thus far. It’s my current main and I have two different colors. Definitely recommend getting the 4k version of the LAMZU or purchasing the 4k dongle for the pulsar.

hey The Techne!! Please review dream machines mice🙏

Vaxee Outset AX wireless review incoming?

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

editing it now :)

Disagree. The weight makes up for the creaking. I have many top of the line mice including the viper mini signature, and the weight differece increased my scores significantly. I dont like fingertip grip, so the m2k just wasnt for me, but this feels like the m2k with a grip where i can feel the mouse.

this is bit of a silly suggestion but can you add a music fade to the outro

Could you please tell me if there are optical switches in this mouse?

@Erebacher

2 ай бұрын

No. Omron I think

Leave it to Techne to give us yet another BASED review. I also don't appreciate deceptive marketing. I've hated finalboy and his scummy tactics since I bought the air58 (loved the mouse, hated the lack of QC). Before anyone says I'm a hater, I still have owned almost every model since the air58, hoping they would live up to the hype and yet they always disappoint. The fact that the scrollwheel is STILL an issue after years of iterations from the finalfactory (wherever it is), we still have the same ghost scroll wheel jumps from 6+ years ago. Finalboy does a great job pushing some aspects of the technology but still can't get the QC right and it's maddening. All that being said, I'm still going to buy a ULX large hoping that I can finally have an updated air58 and maybe I'll win the lottery and be one of the minority mice that doesn't have ghost scroll issues.

Love your video as always Techne, though I have to be honest you sound very agitated in this video. I guess for good reasons, but I much prefer the happy, hyper Techne!

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

lol, this mouse made me sad 😂 no wait 😢

I love your beard. How to grow that? Do you use any products? How?

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

amish oil

Raw and honest is what I look for and you just delivered! Thank you for this review, sir!

you're a Legend 👍

Just got mine Saturday but the battery decided to blow up on me hell yeah

I like how you can talk negatively about a product and not feeling like you are just sending hate a product. It's a shame that they advertise their product to weight 35g when everyone knows that's not the case (at least not yet). Right now the ulx medium is heavier than what the ulx large is intended to weight.

Most expensive mouse I've ever bought is the Logitech g pro x superlight. My main atm is the CoolerMaster mm720. It only weighs 49g but I'm not paying silly money to shave another 10 grams off. However I do think the more lightweight a mouse is the easier and faster you can move and stop it which then leads to accuracy being better. Also less fatigue at low sens if you're playing for really long sessions throwing it about your mousepad.

@xythiera7255

6 ай бұрын

Actuly thats not 100% the case . Fatigue is not a problem even with high weight mice becouse in reality nobody that uses heavy mice will plac on low sens if movements become harder you make ever movment you do faster so you move less over all . On top of that there isnt realy any mouse anymore thats realy heavy the heavy mice are now 60 70grams but the standart is now around 50 . Then is another factor what grip do you us if you palm grip weight doesnt matter if you claw grip weight also doesnt realy matter for the most part if we take 50g as standart . Were less weight has a realy larg effect is if you finger tip you dont have the support of your entire hand so your fingers feel every gram of weight hard . The thing is with the Starlight Ultralight X that you traid quality feeling for weight lose . It is still plastic in the end you feel its plastic and you get Finalmouses bs fanbase in the back as well then then there is the competition that can do the same low weight but for cheaper and its magnesium that wont bend or break on you ever like the WLmouse X or new upcomeing Superlight 2 shaped magnesium clone for just 99€ .

🔥 🔥 🔥

Perfect video man! I loved the real comparison to the strawberry lol. But I disagree that there are better options. Unfortunately I don't have my copy yet, but in my opinion, the flex in the sides of the mouse worth because of the weight, that is very low. If the small ulx comes with 32g, it will continue being amazing, cause it is 8khz, the lightest mouse in the market (excluding g wolves HSK cause it is a half mouse). And it's impossible to compare with viper se, it is like 18g heavier, even heavier than starlights.

@LA_Designer

7 ай бұрын

The weight doesn't justify the price. You're talking about a mouse that costs near $200 for a "premium" product that flexes. 8K is also non-sense and unnecessary marketing BS. It's already been tested by other creators.

@Shyvorix

7 ай бұрын

@@LA_Designer 8K is for sure a luxury, but let's be honest, at this weight range, flex is an inevitability because you literally cannot put enough material to make it structurally sound without increasing weight. This is why very few mice exist below the 60g range that doesn't flex or creak in some spots. So the options are, do you want absolute maximum structural integrity, or super low weight? It's borderline impossible to have both at the same time. Price is it's own shit since they're doing it to compete with the likes of Razer and Logitech who also have super expensive flagships.

@LA_Designer

7 ай бұрын

@@Shyvorix The reason Finalmouse was able to achieve this weight is because it's made of a carbon fiber composite, not the usual cheap plastic that other mice manufacturers use. And yes, I agree that at lower weight you are sacrificing rigidity, I still think that they could further improve since they are using much better materials. There's always room for improvement, and this is their first iteration.

@Shyvorix

7 ай бұрын

@LA_Designer Yea that is true. The side panel gap they already confirmed have been fixed and some with some later units have attested to it. I hope the 2nd batch comes out better but I'm gonna wait before making the decision.

@ThisIsNotJP

7 ай бұрын

GWOLVES HTX 4K weighs 39 grams

that "average" strawberry is actually pretty big. Maybe even too big even. Some may say that's even too much strawberry for them.

compared to razer v2 pro?

Great Video! luckily, I didn't preorder it.

Woah I haven’t seen your videos in a couple of years and holy you look so different now. You lost some weight, grew some facial hair out and got a bunch of tattoos. What made you decide on getting all those tattoos so late in life?

I've had my DAV3 Pro for 12 months. Still no flex.

Aand now I'm craving for strawberries

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

lol, I did go buy a strawberry cake, lol

I got mine and can confirm the flex is annoying asf on my pinky

2 months extended for rigorous testing in the factory to ensure no qc concern

ppl dont value their money anymore. for $200 if the things you stated in the vid aren't deal breaking idk what else is.

definitely none of the issues you mentioned here. I can get the one side to flex if i make a concerted effort to push it in, but why would i? This whole review is pretty nit-picky tbh, and feels like you are searching for things to dislike, think im gonna stick with Bad Seeds take on this one.

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

I smell hype

@RCmetal11

7 ай бұрын

@@TheTechne think what you want, but this whole review reeks of someone trying their hardest to go against the grain for views, and its transparently sad. And the fact that you felt the need to comment on someone who doesn't agree with you solidifies my point lmao.

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

@@RCmetal11oh boy, I called it in the video, and here it is. 😂

@flashbutton2526

7 ай бұрын

​@@RCmetal11I don't like this guy, he only states his prefrences and his own view and comparing it to things no one cares about, State some FACTS like optimum, he did a review of the mouse and said it's one of if not the best mouse he has ever used, and it destroyes the market. One thing he did state however is that it's very flexi as might be true considering the weight, idk 🤷

@RCmetal11

7 ай бұрын

@@flashbutton2526 yeah hes just kind of an opinionated loser. I gave a few videos a chance, but the fact that hes picking fights in the comments with people who disagree with him just makes me think hes a shitty person. Nevermind that instead of saying anything of substance he did the classic "crying emoji" laughing thing that teens do. Just kind sad really. Probably always be a B level youtuber.

Where do you buy your strawberries??

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

Walmart

Thanks for the honest review Techne! I've had three different versions of this mouse and resold them all due to the exact kind of bq issues you mention in this video. Keep up the good work.

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

It’s sad how hype will blind many others

@user-cd8yw9op8x

7 ай бұрын

Where did you get 3 versions of this mouse from already? Stop the cap!

@orm2799

7 ай бұрын

@@user-cd8yw9op8x I meant three different older versions of the starlights. All three had be issues.

@Weirt_

7 ай бұрын

LMAO theres 1 Version in 2 colorways out.

@RCmetal11

7 ай бұрын

@@user-cd8yw9op8x yeah dude is lying his ass off lol

if the price didnt have meaning would u still say that there are better mouse, if yes what are they

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

Better with this quality for sure.

I’ve gotten strawberries way bigger than those things lol

can this be better than the superlight x pro ?

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

the super light is solid

Meh, can only speak to my copy but it's been great. I do miss that metal feel on my starlight though. Complaints of flex are always so funny to me, maybe I just don't grip hard enough. Complaints about the company aside, the product is great. (Of course can only speak to my mice for QC issues)

The problem with fps mouse is there is no dedicated fps left-handed mouse since the razer death adder...

@flashbutton2526

7 ай бұрын

Viper mini? It's both left and right 😏

@akelastale

7 ай бұрын

@@flashbutton2526 yep agree there are some ambidextrous like also G930 which is my favorite between both or even the Logitech shroud one, but like i said none are dedicated with a form that is only usable by lefties.

Atleast WLmouse Beast X doesn't take itself too seriously.

@matthewtheodore448

7 ай бұрын

with some improvements, the beast x could be crazy.

@kunalshrivastava6398

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, they should have focused more on weight balance. It's very slightly front heavy. Got mine arriving this week,can't wait !

Hype and QC issues are why they deserve to not only go out of business, but to have a class action lawsuit slam the owner "Finalboy".

@flashbutton2526

7 ай бұрын

Ur just hating, I wanna hear you talk for urself, tell me why it's bad, don't repeat the guy in the video, but sure go ahead and mention them.

What a cool video

i thought that is the new xtrfy model

Finally an honest mouse review! Such an overhyped product and you even have luck on your side to buy one. Never understood why people flock to this company. Most of their products have horrible QC and yet hardly anybody talks about it. They charge almost $200 for a mouse that creaks and breaks. People make very poor decisions buying anything from this company. Better options out there for way less money and guess what? You don’t have to be lucky to buy a quality mouse not made by final mouse.

at this point buying final mouse stuff is an idiot test ontop of the horrible qc there products have good luck dealing with there support if you can even reach them for RMA's etc.

How is it compared to the new helios?

@TheTechne

7 ай бұрын

I would take the Helios all day

@user-fc1kv7oy1c

7 ай бұрын

@@TheTechne I’m assuming you guys are talking about the fantech helios ii ?

@backupjester3520

7 ай бұрын

@@user-fc1kv7oy1c Yeah the XD3 V3

bro found the smallets strawberries possibles LOL

They have fixed the flexy sides now

@xythiera7255

2 ай бұрын

Only if you buy the version after another version after another version that got the changes 😂 or you get a beastx and just be done with it

I mean to be fair to finalmouse they do actually market the medium at 35g

@flashbutton2526

7 ай бұрын

It's a production mouse so at this low weight they cannot 100% assure you that ur getting exacly the weight it's supposed to be, My friend has a medium weighing 33 grams 🤷

@YourCloudyyy

7 ай бұрын

I dont believe his medium is 33g, his scale is 100% off.. they weight measured with no battery to get 35g lol. the average is 37-38. mine is 38.@@flashbutton2526

Saw a video of a guys guardian flexes and creaking a lot so it’s crazy they think that’s okay at a price of almost $200

The first good Review

I'm hyped for Techne, not Final Mouse. ❤

I wonder if they can be sued for false advertisement on the weight

@xythiera7255

2 ай бұрын

Why they correctet it on there page so its not realy false advertisement and they never sayed it woud be that weight to 100%

thats a small strawberry

Glad to see someone without terminal fortnight syndrome review these mice. I swear it should be a disclaimer at the start of all reviews that this person is a npc. It’s like talking to ChatGPT only less original.

Originally they said it was the same weight as the sugar in a can of pepsi…

me laughing with my 1year old 100€ still as new lamzu atlantis at all the "free thinkers" beta testing a new product launch for 220€. cool mouse, but definetly not gonna pay that for a mouse.

All this wait just for there to be qc issues is so disappointing