Update to this video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2sxdCOf8KYpaw.html

@freepalestine2434

3 жыл бұрын

You'll be eating your sock once you play the next iteration: Final Fantasy VII 2, Birth by Dirge of Advent Hearts, and find out that Zack was Donald Duck from the start.

@uchihajunior5648

Жыл бұрын

15:35 As far as theories go, that isn't another timeline where zack lives, aparently, defeating the whispers have undone all that they did on past, present and future, so things like the artist that made stamp the dog a beagle and zack dieing were undone becouse of that, so the past changed a lot, but the party and sephiroth only have memories of the events as they were before entering the portal, and i think squere should leave anyone related to kindom hearts away from the script of final fantasy games.

@RuneKatashima

4 ай бұрын

@@uchihajunior5648Barret would be dead then.

Original theme: the delicate balance of one life affecting another, and accepting reality New theme: DENY REALITY LOL TIME TRAVEL KINGDOM HEARTS A very 2020/2021 theme, I might add. One thing they got right was the combat, finally.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh

@friedrichschadow

3 жыл бұрын

This Combat System was just Another nail in this shits coffin for me. The System trys to be darksouls, but its Not. Reacting to Enemy attacks With skillful dodging Is impossible, attack is pure Button smashing, 0 tactics involved and to make up for the constant, unpreventable damage you eat, the Game throws a shitton of potions at you which Makes it Even less about skillful playing. Dont get me wrong, combat systems dont have to be about dodging and reacting quickly, but of they are Not, Then they shouldnt make me think That they are. This Game Is a mess in Every way imaginable and a total insult to all the fans

@splaffyduck5787

5 ай бұрын

@@friedrichschadow I can only assume from your comment that you didn't play the game, or if you did maybe had it on the 'story mode' which deliberately makes combat super easy, because the combat is very much based on tactics

@bigjawline9235

3 ай бұрын

@@friedrichschadowhow tf is it trying to be dark souls lmao

@jemandjemand2362

3 ай бұрын

combat was trash- constant immunity of bosses, damage dealt was 5-7 hit points per hit haha and stun lock is ass

The moment Zack was confirmed to be alive... Cloud as a character was literally robbed of all significance to the story. The new story has no weight and all the ppl who wanted to experience the game, like we did just on better graphics. (This is their first impression)

@AA-sw5pb

2 жыл бұрын

Its almost like it's a REMAKE not a REMASTER aka it is remade with some story being the same and some being different seems to me like someone dosent know how to let go of the past and be open to new experiences

@foxmoth8010

2 жыл бұрын

@@AA-sw5pb then just make a new fuckin game😂😂😂😂

@foxmoth8010

2 жыл бұрын

@@AA-sw5pb ok my biggest issue also is we live in an era where where trauma is considered valid. But nobody remembers the trauma surrounding the original characters for FF7. A traumatic overshadow that reflected the harsh reality that was the setting of the game. The remake sugar coats it with plot armor now, what made 7 what it was, Easily the ironic presence of reality in a fantasy story. Roche exists the generalize the idea of homosexuality in it's fan base. But his dialogue is that of a Chad in someone's DMs. SMH what ppl will put up with to just get a flashy new game is crazy. It's also why the original FF Tactics reigns in the top 10 titles still too.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@@AA-sw5pb It's not a remake. It's a sequel.

@hustler666100

2 жыл бұрын

@@AA-sw5pb yoor definition of remake is wrong first off this is clearly a sequel and its just every story element of this game was worse if you are a fan of the original. They could of just made a new game but wasnt confident enough so slapped ff7 on it.

Cloud is just bad at producing a powerful enough patronus to get the dementors to go away, I wonder what horrible things Avalanche has done to end up having to go to Azkaban

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaha! Ahh. That’s hilarious

@obitoxshinobi8978

3 жыл бұрын

dementor dementor😂

@prestonak

3 жыл бұрын

@@obitoxshinobi8978 this is some solid proof that the Harry Potter Universe takes place in the same world as FF7's

@obitoxshinobi8978

3 жыл бұрын

@@prestonak 😂

This is the best remake that should not exist :S. Whisperers are the worst thing I have seen in a story ever. Introduced into a story/lore as a retcon. They have several functions: add a difference, be meta-commentary on both fans and creation, add possibilities, serve as a pseudo-final boss/antagonist, and above all they are used as cheap subversion (except the ending you have preventing Reno from dying and resurrecting Barret among a few). The worst aspect is that they are made to be really in our faces. They are supposed to be something used to prevent time deviations but as far as we know this is the only time they intervene and they only build up their failure. People say that Sephiroth is manipulating the party to defeat the whisperers but they are described as "the will of the planet". These people straight out expect the games to lie to us now. Tell us retcons or "solve" mysteries/definitions in the next installments. How can people enjoy this? It would not be good if Sephiroth used the whisperers for all the stupid things. The party knows that the whisperers know the future and represent the planets will but assume that there is a bleak future (and they do not mean bleak as in bleak for only humanity). The whole thing is stupid. Let's just hope it was all a bad dream or that the whisperers defeat defeated them even in the remake so that they are erased out of existence. That would be horrible storytelling but at least we can get back to FF VII -_-.

@vincentgraymore

3 жыл бұрын

Also, I just rewatched your video, great stuff.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

@vincentgraymore Thanks for the subscription man! Hope to see more of your comments in the future :)

"...Update the combat.." The fuck? "Okay everyone, chess is outdated. We have far better war simulators now. Why are people still playing chess?" Is that what you're saying? Also you said "more character development". They turned Jesse from a team player who might have shyly had a crush on Cloud, to someone who forces herself on him and tries to get between Cloud and Tifa. Bugs and Wedge really aren't any more developed than in the original. They had Jesse join Cloud in rolling her eyes to Barrett's speech in the elevator even though all the members of Avalanche share that same passion. They made Aeris appear to be on the same side as Sephiroth because she's willing to risk the sure victory that's fated to happen just to save herself. I agree with you that they made a weird KH-esque sequel more than anything but you were still extreme light on this game.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

The combat needed an update. People are always gonna have a problem with the change, but I personally loved it. I will say the extra character development, looking back, I was a little soft on. I should’ve been harder on it there.

@myownfriend23

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 There's no such thing as "updating the combat". That's definitely not how things work which is why I mentioned the chess example. Chess is essentially a war game as is any MOBA or strategy RPG but neither supercedes Chess. 3D platforners also didn't replace 2D platformers. Games may be software but that does not mean that updates apply to them in the same way as OS or something. FFVII had it's issues. It's English translation could have been better, it didn't support movement with the analog stick, targeting in battle was an issue at times, they didn't yet master the pre-rendered backgrounds thing which made some maps hard to understand, music transitions were very abrupt most of the time, the backgrounds were low resolution and couldn't scale , and it's clear that the in-game graphics weren't what they wanted them to be. These are all technical details that hindered the game and most of them were fixed in subsequent games. The game became a classic despite these technical limitations. It did not, however, become a classic despite it's gameplay and genre. The battle system worked exactly as it was meant to. If they didn't want to have a turn-based battle system then they wouldn't have done one originally. If there's any remaining barriers for games being appreciated as art, it's the video game players seem to have inability to see the actual gameplay as art. The degree that some people have embraced the remake makes me wonder what they liked about the original to begin with. Was it just that Cloud and Sephiroth looked "badass"?

@37000

3 жыл бұрын

@@myownfriend23 This is just what I think especially in remakes that totally change the original formula, and how do you say if the "fans" applaud those changes then what did they think of the main game? I think that turn-based combat is one of the pillars of the saga and it makes no sense to say that you like RPGs and at the same time think that turn-based combat has nothing to offer anymore.

@ShoegazeSage

3 жыл бұрын

Dude I love turn based combat but OG FF7 was piss easy for most of the game. Comparing it to playing chess is pretty hilarious. You can make turn base combat exciting like Bravely Default's system but FF7s combat is extremely vanilla.

@myownfriend23

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShoegazeSage I thought Bravely Default's battle system was incredibly boring but whatever, not a bad game and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I never said FF7's battle system was as difficult as chess. I said that calling turned-based games "outdated" is the same as calling chess, a notably turn-based games, outdated.

The greatest switch and bait tactics from Square Enix. This company is shell of its former self. Glad I did not buy this game

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I bought it for you so that you didn’t have to play it lol

@titusvarughese5071

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 much appreciate the sacrifice of your hard working money. Keep up the good work.

@hidekihbr

3 жыл бұрын

yeah the game sucks its a shitfest omg like look at cloud now

@genocideelites8385

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 dont be dumb. Pirate it. Enix DOES NOT deserve ANY money. They shall go bancrupt! Maybe than we will get squaresoft back.

@timmytimmymit5607

Жыл бұрын

I did not buy it either I’m more interested in FFXVI taking the series back to its root!

What gets me is how the fanbase over Remake is far worse than the fanbase of the original. The original had to accept that it was considered 'overrated' or it's apparently not as good as FF9 or FF6, whether or not it was their favourite. This game on the other hand? You can't say one bad word about it.

@ItsSVO

6 ай бұрын

Because these type of fans are in a cult.

Real FF7 original fans: look how they massacred my boy :(

@hidekihbr

3 жыл бұрын

yeah dude look at what they did to aerith ew shes a dumb fuck of destiny now

@alventuradelacruz522

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer this one actually

@myownfriend23

3 жыл бұрын

@@alventuradelacruz522 That's nice that you prefer the sequel.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

*EXACTLY* ! Because who ever disagrees is not a *real FF7 OG fan* well said !

@alventuradelacruz522

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeydjimmy5169 nah

Should've just called it final fantasy 7: new timeline/reboot, since they're not gonna follow the originals storyline for long instead they're gonna make cash grab spinoffs out of this "remake"

@SgtSega

3 жыл бұрын

New people are playing this under the impression that it's the same thing. Heck i keep running into so called fans telling me that it IS a remake and that the original fans wanted a remaster instead. It's so backwards!!!!!!

@orlandofurioso7329

2 жыл бұрын

@Epik still i would have preferred an alternate optional ending, kinda like what Max Payne 2 did

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@Epik You clearly don't know what a remaster or a remake is. This is neither

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@Epik Yes a remaster is the same game code, just updated to better graphics like Metal Gear Solid 3 HD or the PS3 version of Shadow of the Colossus. A remake is where they remake the same game like Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes or the PS4 version of Shadow of the Colossus. Nobody wanted a remaster, they wanted a remake. However this remake is actually a sequel to the original game with Sephiroth trying to change the timeline and the whispers trying to preserve the original games events. You could be generous and call it a re- imagining but it definitely can't be called a remake.

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@Epik Yeah.

Man I can't stress over how much I agree with you. Whenever you talk about this with someone they say "HURR DURR iTs A nEW eXPerIEnCe TaKE yoUR NosTAliGA glASSes oFf". Not understanding that I want a new experience but I don't want them to piss all over what made the original so great....

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

That’s why I just had to make a video about this game, I felt there were so many others who felt the same way I did but I couldn’t find a single video expressing how I felt. Most everybody praised the remake, and I do think it deserves praise but my god. Overall, what a missed opportunity.

@krusenator123

3 жыл бұрын

It's not even nostalgia I played the OG again after the remake and the OG is ages better still

@vincentgraymore

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that all sides have the nostalgia glasses but the ones hating "purists" are getting a triumph card because purist in of itself is considered a bad word. However, they who hate purists are also blinded by nostalgia since they want the game to have Cloud, Tifa, Aerith, Barret, Red XIII, Sephiroth, Midgar etc. They do not want the remake to be "FF XVI" because they want the stuff they love. I would not call myself a purist, nor would I want to claim that I wanted a remaster (because I do not think that a game that has an entirely new combat system, camera angles and layout could ever be classified as a remaster). The remake was lovable, even perfect at times but it was all undermined starting with Aerith's sense of Sephiroth in the intro and its escalation from there into whisperers and then slaying Fate itself. This remake could have been my dream but unlike that 60% that blindly love the game or the 20 % that like it but at least can admit it has flaws I get pushed into the last 20 % that more or less hate the game for any reason. I do not hate the game (it is a mixed bag as I want the game to be an 8). Rather I hate the fandom for accepting the whisperers addition but more importantly I hate that they try to silence me regardless if I am kind or not, love things or not just because I think SE messed up a very important point. I would rather join the hate group and show SE that this is not how you do a remake than joining those that blindly love whatever (because they get to see their favorite characters, and they claim to not be blinded by nostalgia -_-) or those that accept this game in hopes for the next. Seeing how the fanbase is also split into at least 3 big factions (Aerith live vs Aerith die, New random shit vs staying on course, Timetravel/cross-dimension that allows Zack and Sephiroth, etc to be time travelers) I cannot see how SE will be able to work on this franchise going more and more installments deeper as they will shave off a portion of the fanbase each game. Then again FF VII remake will overshadow the OG because of it simply being a feast for the eyes in the current year and the Og is already a bad timeline so remake will replace OG as "the real lore" as well. It will introduce a lot of new fans, a lot of new fans that have to be told that they play a game called "remake" but still have to get all the OG+ material to understand the game and that in of itself leaves out the core plot thread of the new game: Destiny and time shenanigans. -____- Most people will be okay to even more thrilled in the following parts of the remake but as of now, that crowd is ~80 % at best. When will things start to shake the boots? 60 %? Maybe some people will rejoin when their fix is in focus but the game is already after the first installment against the theme in the OG so they should just go as crazy as they want until people no longer care (even if Aerith dies and there are installments afterward, she could still be revived somehow because of how SE treated the presentation and subversion in part 1). I will not be fooled by the trailers if they like previously (except release trailer) try to hide these big subversive moments. I will wait until a big portion tells me that the next installment is backtracking or else I am seeking water on a PC release at best.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentgraymore I didn't read this entire comment but I can assure you, I am not a purist FF7 OG *MAY* was my first FF game and my first entry to the FF world but I love how thing have turned out It's a literal fantasy game, what is realistic about a world like that? ( *am waiting for the hate comments to tell me. Am not a real. Fan etc.* ) xd

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@krusenator123 Depends on how you feel and see things But it's *totally understandable*

Cloud in the 1st hour of the game: "I killed you." ...How!?, how the hell does Cloud know this after the 1st bombing run? It's like the writers themselves have amnesia, it's so dumb smh...

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Actually holy shit. You’re right. Wow, that is really dumb

@Scott-M1

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 It is. Hojo is another one. Telling Cloud he never was in Soldier before the incompetent dementors come in too late and whisk him away. My soul still aches from this game lol.

@lowlife9315

3 жыл бұрын

Cloud killed sephiroth in the past

@Scott-M1

3 жыл бұрын

@@lowlife9315 Yes, we know this. But Cloud didn't know up until Tifa helps him remember, when they both fall into the lifestream at Mideel, much later in the story. Even if you add a dumb time travel element, he still shouldn't have known... Unless Sephiroth used telepathy or something lol. It's not explained at all, just thrown in. Also the ending of FF7R is ridiculous: Cloud was nowhere near strong enough to defeat Sephiroth at that point, but he's slicing through trains and buildings? It's retcon rubbish imo.

@shivashiham7880

3 жыл бұрын

​@@lowlife9315 Cloud never remembered what happened after he faced off against Sephiroth in his recollection of the Nibelheim Incident. In fact, the fact that he didn't know how the showdown ended was one of his motivators for chasing after him (Since clearly if they're both alive after their supposed death-match then something must be going on).

Alot of people are spam hating any youtuber that has anythin negative to say, dont let that get you down, I enjoyed your review.

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

I figured this vid was gonna get some hate. No worries man, thanks for the support!

@MizzFujin

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 speak your truth, your tribe will find you :) good luck in your other reviews

@krusenator123

3 жыл бұрын

I respect KZreadrs that speak their true opinion and don't care about the dislikes they get. True real fuckin ppl right there. Can't stand KZreadrs who say the same shit as everyone else and can't for a real true opinion for themselves

@NeumaSeven

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, FF fanboys are the worst. The game is coming out in parts and we would be doing good by critiquing its obvious flaws in hopes of change and they are still hating/ignoring any honest negative feedback. I hope this game milks those "fans" because that's what they deserve.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 It's really hate If we call it a hate then *this video is a hate video it's self* Depending on HOW someone is gonna approach you Am not here to trash talk to you Am here to point out what I feel I didn't liked It's okay to have your own opinion and am not gonna judge you for that However, since this is a discussion video you cannot expect for people not to say anything about it I understand *BOTH* sides who hate the game and who love the game I stead of been a hater I have put my self into everyone's *shoes* to understand what they mean That is why I have this opinion and I say the things I say Do not miss understand me mate Well nice edited video But I do not agree with this

Defeated sephiroth. in game 1. Part 2 - here's a giant snake. Where's the tension? Such dumb direction - thanks Nomura.

@Aeterny

3 жыл бұрын

Dumb direction from a frankly dumb guy who has no talent in storytelling, never make an artist tell a story.. unless they can actually pull off a good job of telling a cohesive and in depth one.

@foxmoth8010

3 жыл бұрын

No thank you yaoi fan production team. Let's only focus on sexual tension or situations. Thanks for body shaming a made up character just to give us a flamboyant dance routine that had no real significant meaning to taking down Shinra. The shitty appeal tactic they pulled to pull in new fans.

@foxmoth8010

3 жыл бұрын

Castlevania made an anime universe and even though it doesn't fall right in line with the games... It doesn't change them either. Sad when another company can get it exactly right not even trying. But here comes the new line up for the production team at Square-Enix! Trying to make sense of the kingdom hearts franchise through other titles.

@RIELTURO

2 жыл бұрын

@Aaron9 you again ?

@TequilaToothpick

2 жыл бұрын

@Aaron9 They still introduced him far too early.

I feel like if the remake had no arbiters of fate and was not split into parts, it would've been a 10/10. The gameplay was great but the story was ruined by becoming about those dumb kingdom hearts whispers. I have no doubt that Aerith will live in the next part.

@scamfighter2297

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the game but the whispers were lame as. Game will probably be good in the future but I definitely feel the more Kingdom hearts it goes the less the fan-base will stick around as a large amount of people wanna play final fantasy and not Kingdom hearts, if I wanna play Kingdom Hearst I'll play it lol

@hustler666100

2 жыл бұрын

yeah if they wanted to change the story slightly they could of just said its in a diff universe but they went with whispers which means you know no one can die if they didnt in the original (Barrett) and then multi part cash grab doesnt help

@lorddiethorn

2 жыл бұрын

It’s called a remake

@jackflynn412

2 жыл бұрын

@@lorddiethorn I'm fine with them changing the story, just make a good story. Why would they want to defy fate when they save the planet and beat Sephiroth? Is it to save Aerith? To save Midgar? It seems so risky and dumb. They gave Sephiroth a chance at winning.

@DaPhil1995

2 жыл бұрын

@@lorddiethorn Remake, Same Story Same Characters, just expendet. FF7R is more of A Reeboot because of the hard story changes. Rather call it FF7 Reimagined or Alternate, when it comes to the story.

Fortunately, the modding community has basically created a real remake at this point. HD backgrounds upscaled via ai, better chibi models on the world map via ninostyles on the nexus, upscaled world map, remastered spell textures, 60fps, true widescreen, higher resolution menus, 60fps upscaled cutscenes with ninostyle chibi models inserted where appropriate (I still don't understand how they managed that bit of black magic), the list goes on but you get the idea. With a little bit of legwork (very little, the program 7th heaven makes it as simple as downloading what you want and checking a box) you can create the remake we all wanted.

@thatguybis1997

Жыл бұрын

I believe I’ll be making a video on that soon! As I did what you just described just the other week after buying VII on Steam.

@arphayas2826

5 ай бұрын

You are describing a Remaster.

Yes finally someone gets it. They destroyed the story line. Graphics eye candy that's all.

@decadentgamer3108

3 жыл бұрын

Yep it seems like it's essentially a solid gold, jewel encrusted turd. Seemingly beautiful on the outside... Sorta lol But at the end of the day, it's still a turd.

You had one job Nomura... best job in the world for such a stylistically motivated director. And the dude got bored during the home stretch.

@foxmoth8010

2 жыл бұрын

He got bored with it because he came to terms with his mom dying. He just isn't fresh on the feeling like he was 24 years ago.

@hustler666100

2 жыл бұрын

this is the problem with a multi part game. They now have to have a dramatic boss fight to finish everyone and they have now said its not a trilogy its indefinite. KA-CHING

@TenderViddlez

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxmoth8010 I thought it was Hironobu Sakaguchi's mom that died...

@kawashinimon

2 жыл бұрын

@@TenderViddlez It was.

@Qladstone

Жыл бұрын

@@hustler666100 Yeah because Motorball is not dramatic enough, why? Because whole game long they wanna taunt us with Sephiroth when that part of the game was supposed to be about Shinra. Surprise, surprise, nobody ain't interested in Motorball anymore because they wanna see what these floating trash bags are about and that guy with the long sword and long hair standing in the flames.

Ever since Nomura is getting high responsibility in SE, the Final fantasy games are getting down in terms of story, in the Original FF7 Nomura has designed the characters but he didn't even knew their personally. He didn't even understood Cloud's personality.

I'm so mad if Zack's going to be alive. As you can tell from my User-name, Zack ist my most favorite Character. He is so lovable, goofy, nice, funny, honorable and always there for those dearest to him. I was heartbroken at the ending of Crisis Core even though I exactly knew what was about to happen. His death has auch an emotional impact after having gotten to know him so well in crisis core. Sure - Zack being alive and reuniting with Aerith would be the Happy Ending he deserves. But live doesn't always happen this way. Part of why he is my favorite character is because of his tragic fate. Because even the nicest ones don't always get a happy ending. Having him alive would take away all of that. And ultimately it would mean that nobody needs to suffer and everybody gets a happy ending. But life just doesnt work that way Apart from Zack as a Person, his death is crucial to the story and Clouds mental state. His plot is of such a significance to Clouds past that I can't Imagine how they'll handle the massive changes. Him beeing alive leads to none of clouds mental state, his behavior, his past and his Motivation making any sense. As sad as it is: Zack (and Aerith, too, by the way) HAVE to die. Final Fantasy VII is about loss and coping with it. With Zack and Aerith being alive it won't be Final Fantasy VII anymore. Just some bad fanfiction. Also in my opinion they took away so much of the menace and mystery of sephiroth by showing him way too early. And after having beaten him at the Ende of FF7R, what else is there to come in the other parts? Fighting him everytime as Boss will get boring and won't Serve the story...

@hug0682

3 жыл бұрын

But Zack is still dead in their timeline They crossed a portal, that means they are in alternative universe/dimension Just pay attention to the dog in the bag flying by in cutscene where Zack appears The breed it's different from the dog shown through out the game.

@zackfair6203

3 жыл бұрын

@@hug0682 I know that. But honestly I don't want all that alternate-timeline-crap. That's just not Final Fantasy 7

@hug0682

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackfair6203 I respect that But I actually don't mind it, I love alternate dimension/time travel stuff, yes I'm one of the ones that loves the OG, and still loved how the remake turned out to be And I see it has not a remake but a sequel of the OG or a continuation of advent children And Im honestly happy that they changed a bit, otherwise I would be playing same game over again This way u can still be surprised of what's to come. I honestly believe the same important beats of the OG will still happen(like tifa going to clouds conscience and help him place his memories back together) but maybe in different ways, or what's leading you there it's different Thank u for being polite, I know the community is divided

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@hug0682 EXACTLY FINALLY someone opened minded Am a HUGE FF7 fan too, FF7 OG was my first FF game and my first entry into the FF series I totally agree with you I love how the has game turned out as well

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackfair6203 *Here is the thing though* : There are people who saying *JUST* cause *FF7R* had as a final boss both arbiters of fate and sephiroth it was a *KH* game ? 🤨🤨🤨 Or Harry Potter ??? 🤨🤨🤨 Power rangers ? Maybe ? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷 And that it didn't made sense for something like that to be included in *FF7R* ............................................. Okay 😑 My honest opinion about this is : Am sure *FF* games never had ghosts in it right ? 🤪 I mean *WHY* would they even have that ? 🤪 In a grounded and realistic world like *FF* right ? 🤪 Where its a literal *FANTASY / FAIRY TAIL* world with mystical magic dragons , magic and place you and me have never seen Nooooo, of course not , why would it have ghosts ? 🤪 And what do I know ? Its not like i have played every *FF* game ! { except 0 , 11 , 14 and tacticts } -.- but am thinking i may give tactics a chance NO ! Of course not ! what do i know right ? 🧐 🤷 Its not like ghosts were in *FF IV , FF VII , FF X , FFXII , FFXIII , FFXV* No ! God no ! i mean it wouldn't even make sense , *RIGHT* ? 🧐🤪🤨🤷 Neither time lines were involved in *FF* games since *1987* !!! *NOOOOO* ! *OF COURSE NOT* ! that just crazy ! *RIGHT* ? 🤪🤪🤪🤪 So from now on when ever i see any movie that has any kind of cars involved i will *automatically call it FAST & FURIOUS* cause *EVERY* movie that has cars in it is a copy of *FAST & FURIOUS* ! 👍👍👍👍👍 And when ever i see a movie with time line involved i will call it *BACK TO THE FUTURE* ! Cause every movie that has timeline involved is *BACK TO THE FUTURE* 😊 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Mmmh I didn't like the combat system that much, camera is all over the place and when the enemies are not staggered is seems like I'm hitting them with wet noodles.

I 100% agree. I waited years for the remake and to be left disappointed about it just feels so unjust.

Final Fantasy IV on DS was a 1 to 1 remake in 3D and it was GOOD.

I actually liked this review. As someone who grew up on the original, there really is a lot to complain about here. Even while considering this being a sequel, there're a lot of minor details that get changed about who the characters are that go against the reasoning behind the story of the original. I haven't played this since it came out at this point, but I recall Aerith saying a few lines that totally contradicted core aspects of the original, like she somehow regressed and forgot a couple things while somehow being an arbiter of the future? It just doesn't work for me. I don't recall right now; Has Zack communicated with Cloud subconsciously in this game at all? That was the alternate text whenever Cloud was out of it, right? Zack and Cloud knew each other, and Zack died while Cloud was struggling with mako poisoning, so I was assuming the whole time that Zack was trying to remind Cloud to be himself by communicating through mako, since mako is all spirit energy and Cloud should've been in a psychosis from the poisoning. This is also a comment on how the people close to us remain with us after death, like the commentary on Aerith's death being relative to the passing of Sakaguchi's mom. It is kind of sad for that to not be a major point here. Even as a sequel, the events that saved Zack occur at the very end of the game, so... why wasn't he provably dead before that? Has the nature of how mako works completely changed to make room for whispers? "I was curious about what would happen if I attempted to analyze life in a mathematical and logical way" really does sum up why there was something special with the original; They were trying to write for their own fulfillment. I only catch glimpses of this as past references in Remake, and it's really not a flattering contrast. When I wanted a remake as a teen (when they had the PS3 tech demo), it was because I automatically assumed the heart of this creation would be recaptured and further embellished on. I did not anticipate production teams multiplying in size making large projects more impersonal.

I looked forward to this game so much, played the original so many times and was completely open to new directions, expansions and visuals. But when I saw those whispers my heart sank. Nomura pulled a Kingdom Hearts on this game and can't wait to suck out thousands of dollars out of the fans pockets. I wouldn't put it past them to never have Open World in the next game and having nothing of the original story continue on. Not to mention never letting a single character die because 'sad feelings' are bad. Felt like this would be written better by children. Went from loving this game to hating it in a matter of chapters. Thanks for ruining one of my favorite games, Nomura.

You Absolutely NAILED IT with your Sephiroth take! The Legend of Sephiroth in the Original added SO MUCH suspense and drama to the story

"One of the best looking games I've ever played" ...? That's just like, your opinion man. I saw tons of low res textures that shocked me as they were reminiscent of early 2000 era games, clashing meshes (one example being outside of Don Corneo's mansion), glitches and flaws all over this game. Like rotating the camera angle around a stationary Cloud and the lighting/shadows change; that's not how physics works, he'd be lit the same from any angle no matter which way you look at him. A graphical praise is a bit misplaced, in my opinion. Sure the poly count in the high res textures of the main characters is impressive, they slacked on almost everything else. Just putting fancy atmospheric density, lighting flares, and overpowered reflections to mask it. Sometimes it just looks like a JJ Abrams wet dream. I totally agree about your critique of the whispers and being trapped in the linear paths. The music is varying in quality and style, some is completely terrible! The combat is a good part of this game, it's just too monotonous.. The weapon upgrade system was my favorite addition to final fantasy.

@nervoushabit4634

3 жыл бұрын

You must like the crystarium too from FFXIII 😂

A lot of people really wanted a remastered version but not a remake, they kinda just ruined it

@Garry_Combine

3 жыл бұрын

Not really, I think people wanted something like Resident Evil Remake but Final Fantasy, similar length, all the same content plus some new stuff to spice it up.

@Garry_Combine

3 жыл бұрын

@@kazmodan82 Cringe dialogue, huh? No offense but that's kinda subjective...

@watchthisspace2576

3 жыл бұрын

People wanted a Remake not a Reimagine. Remasters are upscaled with existing assets, Remakes have new assets, new up-to-date gameplay and add content that was cut from original due to time constraints.

@Garry_Combine

3 жыл бұрын

@@watchthisspace2576 So, like Resident Evil for the GameCube?

@watchthisspace2576

3 жыл бұрын

@@Garry_Combine yea exactly and also to clarify A port is a game that is taken directly from one console and placed on another, functionally unchanged (besides obvious things like code and such). A remaster is a game that is taken from an old console, polished and fixed up assets (in both graphics and gameplay), and then is brought to a new console. A Remake says lets build it all again from ground - up like Spyro the Dragon, in none of those should the foundations like the story be changed.

Even if they do manage to keep the same plot of the original games, it’s no longer a game about experiencing loss and learning to live through that grief. Preventing Aerith’s death seems like it’s going to be the whole focus of the story and even if she does die, the game is now about fighting fate. One thing I loved so much about the original was how real it was. Seriously! The only two things that were Fantasy about it were a tangible afterlife and limit breaks, and boy does the game dig deep into those two things creating power and magic. But the character and situations they found themselves in were very similar to our own world (corporation taking over the world and destroying the planet for the sake of profit, oppression of the working class, imperialism, etc). I really hate that the developers decided to have me, as these characters, destroy my hopes for me to share one of my favorite, pulp stories. Oh well. I personally still have the original and will continue to sing it’s praises. I do enjoy the battle system of this game, despite being terrible at it, but I won’t be telling people to play it nor do I expect to buy a PS5 and play it on there. If I must, I will watch Max Dood play it or something.

@mrplayfulshade1038

6 ай бұрын

It's funny cuz after some years of looking into the game's story it is ABSOLUTELY still a story about loss and grief. Rebirth's trailers have shown that things are not taken at face value. While Zack is "alive" there are many many things pointing to the fact that it could all be another trick by the story to make us believe things will be different. Not to mention that in Zack's weird dimension or whatever it may be the ENTIRE TEAM is dead. Leaving Biggs to pick up the pieces, to deal with that loss. Figure out a purpose. All the themes of the OG are here and more potent then ever. Just gotta look a bit deeper into things instead of taking it all at face value. I for one do not trust the story they are leading us to believe. I think we are all in for a very rude awakening when Rebirth drops....

The soundtrack is spectacular The combat is amazing The character models are beautiful The voice acting is wonderful The graphics is beautiful (yeah there are some textures) The boss fights are out of the world. The cutscenes are amazing The writing is bad tho The level design is questionable The tension is ruined The ending is.....

@lorddiethorn

2 жыл бұрын

The writing in the original is bad as well

@paulwoodford1984

8 ай бұрын

this remake is a easy 6.5 to 7 out of 10. Atrocious decisions made in the writing and story. unforgivable and incompetent

@drownthepoor

4 ай бұрын

@@lorddiethorn The writing in the original didn't need to be exquisite because the bandwidth of the story-telling was low-resolution. There was no thing to compare it to. It was blazing new trails. Remake suffers from so many problems. I couldn't even finish it, and I'm so glad I only paid $20.

Man, where do I begin.... To my OG's that gave this game a chance, I respect you and to my OG's that refuses to play it, I respect you more. I played remake w/o knowing any of the changes that were made from its original. For me, I think it was a good thing, bc I would've never gave this game a chance if I had known. I actually enjoy what's been going on...so far....only bc I have hopes of everything being put back into its rightful place when the game is finished. I never knew who Tetsuya Nomura was until I completed the game and I told a buddy of mine that the game reminded me of Kingdom Hearts and that's when he told me about the director of the game "Remake" and what's funny is I've played KHs starting with Roxas story and wanted to get deeper with the game so I decided to attempt playing all the KH games, but gave up when I got to the one when you attack using cards, which I thought was stupid so I gave up on it completely😂. I'll never accept this game to be a sequel, they would've been fine with no controversy if they had just followed the original story line, but I can appreciate what they are doing as long as they don't ruin the integrity of the characters that were sacrificed to create such a masterpiece. Anyone that grew up playing the original knows this is more than just a game to us. I really don't see this more than just a fanfiction game. The story was already told and ended in the original. I will play Rebirth and I will be spoiling the very last game they come out with before I even attempt that, which sucks, but I refuse to finish a game that completely ruins the story of its original by reviving important characters that played a significant role into making such a masterpiece.

FF7R2 is gonna take place in irl Tokyo, Cloud and Sora will spend the whole game hunting down all the people who ever said Nomura couldn't write a good story. Meanwhile dozens of important characters from several IP's will stand in the background and stare into the middle distance while expositing for 19 consecutive hours about the inheritant evil of criticizing creative minds. And Goofy will die again for another 12 seconds.

I'm not gonna pretend like I was/am some big Final Fantasy fan. I was never really into turn-based RPGs so I never got around to playing the original FF7 and I was hoping that the remake would be the perfect way to get into the game and experience the story but when I heard that they changed so much of it and did it for the worst, I was so depressed to hear that. The one time I probably could've found a way to experience FF7 and they go and blow it. I mean it's cool to hear that the combat is great in the game but in a game like this, it really doesn't mean much if the story is crap But honestly as soon as it was revealed that Tetsuya Nomura was the director for the remake as well as being the writer for the story, that really should've marked the big giant red flag in things. I think Nomura is a decent artist (even if he suffers from same face syndrome as demonstrated in the Kingdom Hearts series) but he's just a shit story writer. Look at what he did with Kingdom Hearts, it's just a mess. I just feel like unless he's gonna be making his own game franchise, he should be nowhere near a remake of a game if it isn't just strictly art design. Oh and what you said about the music, that's kinda how I feel about most modern games in general. Like I mea cinematic score type of music is fine and all but I think part of the charm of OSTs from the 5th generation was how because technology wasn't too advanced, video game composers would get really experimental with their songs and I just miss that kinda approach when it comes to video game OSTs. Orchestral songs are fine but because they're so overused now in most video games, they just don't stand out all that much and I would rather take an experimental type of OST over generic orchestral music but that's just me. Anyway I enjoyed the review. It's such a shame that they really dropped the ball with this game's narrative. They had one job, just one. Touch up the story a bit while keeping it the same. But nope, they had to go all Kingdom Hearts with it and it just completely weakened the story in the process, what a waste.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

I think I may have to make a sequel to this video, with all the announcements of FFVII Intragrade, and then the remake of VII on mobile phones, and then the announcement of a FFVII Battle Royale. They are just milking FFVII for all it’s worth, and ruining the game in the process.

@decadentgamer3108

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 Wow I didn't even know they were taking that milking further, that is frankly disgusting. I mean I already knew about Intragrade with Yuffie but it's like they aren't even trying to be subtle about it now lol. The sad thing about all this is that you know there will be blind praise for this but I seriously would like to think more people will catch on.

@vincentgraymore

3 жыл бұрын

I have tried to fight for people like you. People that either missed or didn't play the OG and wanted to get into the actual story of FF VII with this remake but are confused and/or sad that they do not get the OG experience. I do not expect a remake to be the magical 1:1, but they did not have to make a multiple timeline pseudo-sequel that has flash forwards and basically tells us the OG was a bad timeline by fourth wall breaking and in-game dialogue even saying "we can change it, make it right". It is like an uphill battle against well armed firearms troops barricaded in concrete bunkers while I am left with the crappy starting gear of a rusty sword and wooden shield. Many old fans that found the subversion great and new people that are bedazzled by graphics or just the excellent characterization silence everyone not loving the game like an Inquisition. I have seen content creators fall victim to mobs by people that love the game and are now afraid of covering FF VII news. The thing I wanted the most was to be able to try and convince people (my friends) to like FF VII in the same/similar manner that I did. When I played the remake with a pal his mind became "poisoned" forever by now having alternative versions of the characters and timelines combined with fighting fate incarnate on his mind which was far from what happened in the OG. He cannot get the OG experience anymore, and he will never play an old JRPG. My heart bleeds for the new legacy of FF VII Remake which is that of being more than less different in comparison to the OG. Either being "bold" and going full out different, sequel or not, or being bashed for backtracking. The meta discussion has to a large extent overshadowed the story itself. Despite all this most people like it, old and new and I do not really get it. I thought people wanted to experience the story again or for the first time and not getting whatever this game will be defined as. Instead, people value their hype and excitement of the unknown, which will last a few years while the story of OG being a masterpiece could have been eternal. Then again many-most people claim this is a masterpiece and that it is simply better and just an extended version, so people with criticism should just shut up. Sorry if this was spoilery and long :S. Edit: The vast majority love the game just a FYI. :S. All metrics show this by reviews and polls.

@decadentgamer3108

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentgraymore I understand and while the majority are loving and praising this game to the high heavens, as someone who vastly prefers experiencing the original game a remake is based on before I play the remake, I just cannot fall for this... Bastardization of the story. Like I said in my post, I didn't know a ton about the story outside of a few things and even I could tell when they added those stupid "Whispers" into the game when they weren't there in the original, it was gonna be some BS going on. I still remember back in the day when Advent Children first came out and many OG FF7 fans didn't like it and thought it ruined the lore of the original game it was based on and now it seems like the Remake is following in it's footsteps. Time Travel & Different dimensions especially is not something that should've been a thing in FF7 to begin with. At this point, I'm just gonna wait and hope that maybe an indie game developer comprised of devoted OG FF7 fans come together and remake the old game wiith touched up graphics and maybe change the combat style while keeping the story beats the same.

While I still prefer turn-based battles, FFVIIR's combat system is probably the best real-time action battle system in an RPG. BUT I've never liked the stagger mechanic because it turns every boss fight in FFVIIR into overly long battles where you feel like you are barely doing any damage for way too long until they finally let you deal decent damage. And then you usually have to repeat that stuff for two other phases before you can defeat the bosses. Boss fights always feel like they are just on the verge of being too long and grindy. I agree with everything you say on the story. They ruined it. -_- Stupid fan-service Sephiroth... They had one job to do. It was pretty much a freebie. And they somehow screwed it up. It's so frustrating.

The best thing about this remake is that there are beautiful cut scenes and character design. All characters looks great. Worst thing about the remake is there are lots of cutscenes. I mean lots of. There is no end. You play one minute and then there are 30 minutes of cutscenes. If you include only fighting gameplay, that is even smaller. This game is basically a 15 hours long movie where you are allowed to play for few minutes during some interval.

@Vohlfied

7 ай бұрын

90% of FFVIIR was walking Cloud between cutscenes. It was less of a game and more an interactive movie.

Honestly, I don’t understand why this is considered a controversial opinion. This game was a betrayal of the original, pure and simple. FFVII’s significance was due in part to its commitment to its themes of death, loss, and impermanence. These themes are present throughout the game from beginning to end. They are a fundamental component of FFVII’s identity as a work of art. To say that the ending of remake spits on these themes would be a massive understatement. When you do a remake of a work of art, if you take the same characters, the same setting, the same music, and the same broad story beats, it is in service of nothing if not the themes of the original. Just look at the new remake of All Quiet On The Western Front. It shares very little with the text of the original novel in terms of what happens in the plot, but the characters and the themes are there. I can enjoy it as a remake of the original, because it is so evocative of those original themes, and makes me experience a similar emotional response. In that regard, Remake objectively fails. By removing this world of its permanence, you remove the most important pillar of FFVII. Which is why so many of the comments from the devs are so confusing. They seem to fully understand the assignment, and even said in certain interviews that the Whispers and Sephiroth are only present because they wanted a dramatic final boss fight, and the Motorball didn’t seem climactic enough. They seem to acknowledge that it was a contrived subplot. They acknowledge that the plot will play out much the same. And yet, I find myself unable to trust them purely based on how strongly Remake speaks to the contrary. I’m holding out hope that Rebirth and whatever the third game is called will tie it all together, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I wind up disappointed.

I laughed hard when the Benny Hill music came on. The more time goes on, the more I think the remake's story changes are not just awful, they're incredibly weird as well. They're both simultaneously passive-aggressive towards the original fanbase and a lot of the things the original fanbase loved about the original game, at the same time as they're a runaway train of fanservice tropes. It's a weird mess of the dead hand of Nomura (Why they put him in charge of this after FFXV, only to sack him as director for the second part is beyond me) and a kind of commercialised lunge towards what they hoped would sell. (Sephiroth for days, nobody dies, bringing back Zack etc) Anyway, given S-E made it abundantly clear what they thought of the OG fanbase in the first part of the remake, I wish them all the luck they deserve when it comes to selling future parts.

@yt_n-c0de-r

9 ай бұрын

All this and more. It was not what was expected and promised before. Purist or not... Since the merge, after FFX and the abandonment of the core idea to never make sequels, prequels and spin-offs (yes, that was a vital agreement, even if it meant bleeding money), Squaresoft and Enix (both legends in their respective days) have lost me and I never have spent a single cent on them since - just watched from afar. Ever since FFX-2 and many, many weird titles more havw proven my decision right. Some things need to die, even legends - only then they can stay legendary, before destroying themselves and the legacy they built. As they did and continue to do. Allowing Nomura (a character designer and visual artisst, and even he had some lucky hits with parts of FF7c and KH1) to direct is all proof one needs to see that. Endless growth is ultimately destructive and this cinematic, graphic-centered hot mess was the last nail in the coffin for S-E to prove that, and they earned it. They have long lost the need for story and art interested suporters, as they have fans now (fan = short for: fanatic), that are interested in spectacle, drool-inducing visuals and nothing more. S-E: "Fuck core principles of game design and make the ching ching with fanservice!" I too wish them luck, as it is just a business - nothing more. As with most games. That's just the reality.

I'll be honest. I don't know if there was any way they could have re-made this game that I would have been happy with. But the way they chose to go doesn't simply fall-short of my nostalgia-filled expectations. It makes me wish I never wanted a remake to begin with.

Dude why are there so many people disliking an opinion, swear some of these people need to grow up lol.

That ending, awkward yaoi time !! Was funny, thank you.

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

I thought somebody would like that lol

Does Testuya Nomura ask for such a high salary that he has to be gameplay director and story director for any SE games to come?

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

If he was that bad and didn't made millions they wouldn't hire him Simple as that This is a bussines not a family business If you don't make money you don't worth anything to be hired

First game I ever bought with money I earned was ff7 as a boy. The remake made me so mad that I will not buy the remaining episodes of this game.

@timmytimmymit5607

Жыл бұрын

I did not buy FF7 remake I refuse to invest my hard earned money on this episodic crap, it’s like portions of the meal or kibbles f^ck that sh!t.

I strongly expected that the story would be kept intact, only with higher graphics. And i was thrown down, yes part 1 is enough, no other parts would be welcome

Sephiroth mentioned "whispers" via "Remnants" in the advent children movie. So they should have kept that out of the remake/rebirth games and used em as a dlc type of deal. Plus people wore the cloaks due to the geo stigma from the Jenova cells AFTER the ending of the ff7 game

Its videos like these that make me appreciate the remake even more

I feel you man, that is the way I feel, the only good thing of this shit is that I love a lot more the original game

100% agree. The game had some rough spots that made me groan at times but the good parts were amazing. Chapter 16 was the climax for me. Climbing up the stairs of Shinra HQ in iconic fashion, and the reimagining of the upper floors with the guided tour, mayor's library, recreation area, and board meeting. Getting a view of midgar from the full length glass windows of Shinra HQ top floors was truly spectacular, and the VR Shinra propaganda was also breathtaking. Then came Chapter 17 which started weirdly, then a big slog, but sure I'd been through draggy sections before in earlier chapters no biggy and then things all went downhill when we reached the President's office. At the end of Chapter 16 I was pretty excited and looking forward to replay this game multiple times so I could experience it without getting lost and also skipping the side quests for a more compact experience. By the end of Chapter 18 I was in disbelief and disillusioned. I was so disappointed. Never had I finished a game and just felt so unsatisfied and so unhappy about it. It was 2am, I'd spent 50 hours over the last 5 days on the game and here it was in the final few hours that everything about the game was ruined. I couldn't even sleep in peace and kept looking up what the hell people think of this ending. It was already 6am when I finally went to bed.

Persona series is way better because it has better story and morally grey characters and the characters are more relatable in my opinion final fantasy series to me is meh its not bad but the characters felt meh and its sequels felt their not connected and its all over the place and its confusing the only good thing about final fantasy is just the graphics nd the visuals which they focus way to much it's like watching a fucking Disney movie also the reason why it's overrated is because of the visuals final fantasy writing is pretty forgettable its more like a hack'n slash than a rpg because it felt the story more forced than having choices thats why I prefer persona series better because in persona you have many choices well I might be wrong and its my opinion.

Great review! Solid points. Makes me want to play the original instead of this version. Too many people gush over the game and won't hold a real opinion until years later once the rose tinted hype glasses fade.

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

I’m actually replaying through the original now, hilariously enough

@lukeparnell742

2 жыл бұрын

I need to play it again as well. It's been since elementary days so the nostalgia is ridiculous

@eydk556

2 жыл бұрын

The original isn't as fluid, like it's easier to get lost especially if you don't pay attention. You can discover hidden bits of the game. Like when I played I walked into the Honey Bee inn. My friend played it and completely skipped it which I didn't think was possible. The original has a lot of secrets and some I saw that I can't even find anywhere on Google. It's not perfect in that sense... yet it keeps a mystique.. And the original still does a much better job with the storytelling, dialogue, the darkness and grit. So you have to use your imagination to visualize the real characters over the old, just like we had to do in back in the day. Don't rush the game, get lost in it, and it'll make sense.

@FleshToDust

2 жыл бұрын

@@eydk556 I see that as a pro. Less hand holdy and lots of optional areas.

@eydk556

2 жыл бұрын

@@FleshToDust I agree, but you can kinda tell when it's also not communicated well. The immersiveness in the town is a little easier in remake. But it's also a stupid area that takes up 40% of the game according to my PS4, and it has one single whistling track the whollle time. Original soundtrack was better, and fit the slums.

Its been this way with every product created after the Enix merger. The more control Enix (the dominate party in that merger) took over the company the steeper the visual aspects of the games got, while the depth of everything else plummeted. As someone whose an OG Square fan that still plays the older games to this day, if I could describe Enix in an analogy, it would be that Enix is akin to a very shiny puddle. In the art department, their products are always superb, but depth wise, almost everything they create is as shallow as a puddle. And 90% of the time, if it manages not to be shallow, its only because they copied mechanics from a now dead companies ancient intellectual property. And hell, they couldn't even get that right with FF7 remake. FFX was one of the last games that had any resemblance to a Square product, and even then you could practically smell the Enix influence in it looking back now. X-2 chronologically was the last game I played fully through, and that was only due to my attachment to the characters from X. Everything after that is a let down after a let down, if not narratively (usually the case), then mechanically (so don't start with that FFXII shit). I always found it ironic that because Sakaguchi made one bad business decision involving a certain infamous movie and they got rid of them (despite him and others being the only reason Square made it past FF1 and single-handedly built the multi million dollar franchise enix survives on remakes of today). Yet Enix spent the next 10 years losing money for the square brand after ousting him and never accosted itself for being such a fuckup afterwards before finally finding its disgraceful niche as a publisher first and foremost of other peoples games, and spending 2 decades remaking/porting someone elses games from 20-30 years ago (that they got fired nonetheless) to stay afloat. Unfortunately Square's history, like so many other game development studios from the past is no longer a unique story, as this has happened to most of the previously independent developers from yesteryear that saw their demise in the publisher boom of the 2000's

@Vohlfied

7 ай бұрын

Back when it was Squaresoft ❤

Agreed with many of your criticisms of the remake. There's a youtuber named JebZone who did a phenomenal job going into more detail about the issues of remake, as well as his own predictions on what led to certain writing decisions behind the game. Thought I put it out there for those that are interested.

FFVII-Reboot. Btw, I do like Zack even more than Cloud, but his death has a deep role on Cloud's character development. By undoing it, I'm afraid the impact of Cloud persona wouldn't be as strong as in the original game.

Linear play through is always so disappointing when there is such an open world feel. The many side missions and surprise characters is one of the reasons Zelda is my favorite franchise.

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh breath of the wild. That was such a breath of fresh air. See what I did there

@hug0682

3 жыл бұрын

But the midgar portion of the OG is linear as well... Did u expected midgar to be open world, this time around?

Just finished re-imagining (ill never call this a remake) The first glimps of sepharoth was actually really good, i thought it was a cool idea to see what's in clouds head and a nice expansion to create more character depth and a whisper (shouldve been the only whisper in existance in this game) of what's to come. THAT SHOULDVE BEEN AS FAR AS IT WENT, Just spilling the fucking beans and getting rid of all build up and tension.... i'm suprised namura didn't tweet out "im sorry this never happened before youre just so pretty"

@bullsmoothtime

2 жыл бұрын

pair this with the most flaccid reactions to absolute tragedy and what should be mind-blowing moments for the characters and you have a 2/10 for everything that really matters in a game.

Never played the original and I agree with you. Great battle system cause I do enjoy action n turn based but the story is just confusing to me. Not just the ending but the little plot elements or dialogues that they throw with no context for new players :D

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was honestly a sequel, not a remake. But it's not even a sequel until the end, which just exacerbates how this game doesn't know what it wants to be.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 Square Enix are very closed and do not let any information to leak out on purpose I believe they know very well where they want this to head for but they try to keep low profile It's like with MGS games where Kojima disguised a movie as a game And it's the best story telling game ever THE MOST REALISTIC GAME GROUNDED STORY MADE by our God Kojima 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌 Amen The messages and meanings this game passes you and teaches you is CRAZY 🤤🤤🤤😍😍😍 ANYWAYS : BACK TO FF7R They probably already know where they wanna head with this, they just keep a low profile They DID say that THIS would be the fifth title in the compilation and final installment to th FF7 compilation after all

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 Also MG and MGS games are hands down THE best games ever For me 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Don't know about others But MG and MGS games have tesched me so many things that as a kid I wasn't able to understand until I grew up and i was shocked with what the game tesched you Am telling you its crazy No other game puts you into questioning your *OWN MORALS* or put you into the shoes of your enemy and makes you understand them and even sympathize Not many games can do that I often found my self when I was playing MGS games questioning my self, are my actions good? Or bad?

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 But then I remembered Gray Fox and what he said to Snake : *We are not tools of the government, fighting was the ONLY thing I was ever good at, but at least I ALWAYS fought for what I believed in* That sh*t kept me going through the game I continued even if I was right or wrong That is why I do not take FF games as ✌️realistic✌️ and ✌️Grounded✌️ worlds Cause they are a FANTASY / FAIRY TAIL WORLD of magic, mystical magic dragons and places we have never seen before

@freepalestine2434

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeydjimmy5169 _"That is why I do not take FF games as ✌️realistic✌️ and ✌️Grounded✌️ worlds Cause they are a FANTASY / FAIRY TAIL WORLD"_ Lucky for you... the Raven on my head tells me the future. What's more I can read into your mind, and I also use blood transfusions to help me get into character when I'm acting. In other words, being grounded isn't about being set in Alaska vs Midgar. It's about respecting the boundaries and conditions of the world being explored. This is why The Twin Snakes was so much less grounded than MGS: Twin Snakes had Snake jumping off of missiles mid-air and dodging bullets, whereas MGS only had the Ninja doing those sorts of things. Likewise, FF7 has characters with swords that can fight armies, but they still get hurt or die if they fall from too high, they still have power scaling that they can't readily overcome, and they still keep the story narrative focused on the game's primary themes. In FF7R, depending on the needs of the plot, falling may or may not be dangerous, Sephiroth may or may not be too powerful to overcome, and themes of fighting destiny and fate overshadow themes of loss and permanence.

Nah, I prefer the turn based of the 97 game over this. Would have much preferred something along the lines of FFXII battle system, I just don't think SE does well when they go the action RPG route.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough.

@FirstLast-yc9lq

2 жыл бұрын

@Aaron9 Am I? One of them is still considered an absolute masterpiece, while I can't say I've heard much about FFVII-Remake in gaming circles recently even with the expansion/DLC it had and the PS5 upgrade.

the message of the game seems to be the studio's struggle against fandom expectations (represented by the heartless) as if not only are they shitting on the story, but saying their fans are the bad guys while also doing shitty checkbox design like "oh we can't have blood" or "well, we gotta let you fight sephiroth" etc.

@vincentgraymore

3 жыл бұрын

The saddest thing is that the industry and fans are praising this game for having that message (enough to be nominated for best story and game direction and will be on more or less everyones top 5-10 games of the year if not first, although a rather shitty year for games in my opinion). People love that SE are seemingly hostile towards the fanbase because they are fed articles about how toxic fans are, when in reality those fans are being burnt left and right and complain for a reason. I wonder what would happen if SE turned hostile towards them, I doubt they would love it. It is an edgy move by SE and not really done before but there was a reason why remakes has an establishment of being similar rather than different. This game destroys the gaming industry term of remake as it makes people expect sequels instead, and it puns the word to try and be clever, fooling new people into a fandom by false premise. As a sequel it requires explanations when one jump into it, yet everyone treats it as it is a great first FF VII title. I wished another title would have done this before FF VII (having remake in the title as something else than being a remake) so that everyone wasn't so bedazzled by this subversion type of GoT subversion now is loved within gaming.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

There are people who saying *JUST* cause *FF7R* had as a final boss both arbiters of fate and sephiroth it was a *KH* game ? 🤨🤨🤨 Or Harry Potter ??? 🤨🤨🤨 Power rangers ? Maybe ? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷 And that it didn't made sense for something like that to be included in *FF7R* ............................................. Okay 😑 My honest opinion about this is : Am sure *FF* games never had ghosts in it right ? 🤪 I mean *WHY* would they even have that ? 🤪 In a grounded and realistic world like *FF* right ? 🤪 Where its a literal *FANTASY / FAIRY TAIL* world with mystical magic dragons , magic and place you and me have never seen Nooooo, of course not , why would it have ghosts ? 🤪 And what do I know ? Its not like i have played every *FF* game ! { except 0 , 11 , 14 and tacticts } -.- but am thinking i may give tactics a chance NO ! Of course not ! what do i know right ? 🧐 🤷 Its not like ghosts were in *FF IV , FF VII , FF X , FFXII , FFXIII , FFXV* No ! God no ! i mean it wouldn't even make sense , *RIGHT* ? 🧐🤪🤨🤷 Neither time lines were involved in *FF* games since *1987* !!! *NOOOOO* ! *OF COURSE NOT* ! that just crazy ! *RIGHT* ? 🤪🤪🤪🤪 So from now on when ever i see any movie that has any kind of cars involved i will *automatically call it FAST & FURIOUS* cause *EVERY* movie that has cars in it is a copy of *FAST & FURIOUS* ! 👍👍👍👍👍 And when ever i see a movie with time line involved i will call it *BACK TO THE FUTURE* ! Cause every movie that has timeline involved is *BACK TO THE FUTURE* 😊 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@nyankers

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeydjimmy5169 or maybe because the writer wrote for KH, god damn your post is weird tho

@SuperHiddenaccount

3 жыл бұрын

I hear this meta theory a lot but I don't buy it. Feels like a reach

Cool video dude, continue please 👌

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

Will do! Make sure to subscribe to keep up to date

Square Enix trashed a story that many thousands of ppl fell in love with. Why did they think this was okay? Doing this would cause 50% to be unhappy... but if they kept it true to the original, 99% woulda been happy with the remake... so wtf?! This is not a smart decision. One can create a new game but don’t change another games story... and if you do, let ppl know and call it something else like final fantasy 7 alternate dimension. But even that I think is dumb... don’t mess with a story, there will always be 50% or more ppl who hate it.

The worse part is I can't get my damn money back for the FF7 remake crap. It's like 60 bucks for a 10th of the original game. Ooh it had pretty pictures. Plus the game engine is bullshit. What a great disappointment and a waste of time.

When you think of it, these are the folks that thought mashing up Final Fantasy characters and Disney together in a game and creating an entire franchise out of it was a good idea. So any surprise here?

its not a remake unfourtently i just give it the attention it deserves a what if with the characters i love. luckily i love the original FF7 graphics and play it all the time

I felt the 'remake' was a slap in the face to the fans of the original game. It basically showed us what we could've had, only to rip it away from us and turn the story into a bad fanfic. I'd be less pissed off if it was said from the beginning this game was a sequel rather than a proper remake, then at least I wouldn't get my hopes up or have wasted my money on it.

I totally agree, and it’s sad that certain content creators are saying we are haters of Square and that we are purest and I disagree, I’m a life long fan And hearing about FF7 remake long time ago I cried legit knowing such an amazing game from my childhood would be remade but see how they did it and turned it to a KH dream drop fragmentary 365/2 chain of memories style of story telling This has completely broken me from playing the next installment for this game All the fans wanted was a remake….and they made this thinking it would be better than an already amazing game

Lmao!! A fair and well made review that talks about what the game does well and what it doesn't and it gets dislikes because Final Fantasy fan boys are the biggest losers of all time. Good thing fans aren't this insufferable for the rest of the industry.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes the cold hard truth hurts people’s feelings it seems lol

@NeumaSeven

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 People need to learn to except the truth and think past their own damn feelings. My friend beat the OG over 30 times and remixes FF7 songs, he fucking loves FF7 and he thinks the remake is flat out bad... it’s like who’s are these people that defend this game so hard? Paid square employees? Lmao

@NeumaSeven

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 Story changes aside the games just really bad on its own too besides the combat.

@timmytimmymit5607

Жыл бұрын

FF7 has the most toxic fan base. Never trust fanboys who put FF7 on a pedestal as the best RPG of all time.

As an original FF7 fan this is by far the best review of the remake I've seen. Was debating if playing it or not but I think I'll wait to see if the next one will move in the right direction or not. Thanks for the awesome review.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome. This is probably one of my favorite videos that I’ve made, so I’m glad you enjoyed it.

The Remake we never wanted is how I would describe Resident Evil 4

My interpretation of the FF7 remake story is that both Aerith and Sephiroth have somehow projected their consciousness back through time. Aerith now has knowledge of the future, and both are acting differently, both are instantly tormented my Whisperers. 

 The Whisperers being a force to keep destiny/history on track, they venomousl try and keep the original story in check. (This is very meta, I can only imagine the writters wanting to be let loose in this FF world). A task the Whispers do pretty well until right at the end, when after the gang of five (including red) escape Midgar, Sephiroth cuts a portal to a new reality. This is where everything changes, here Zack is seen alive, carrying another Cloud, where an avalanche team are actually killed in a reactor explosion, and where even another Sephiroth may reside. On entry the Heroes are goaded by Sephiroth and destroy this realities ‘Whisper King’. A being who sees the heroes as an infectious force, shattering this realities continuity. On its defeat, all bets are off. This is the heroes faux pas, Sephiroth couldn’t defeat the Whisper king, this barrier between realities, not without the help of our heroes. Now he has a whole new world to take over. 

I think the new game will be 80-90% the same as the original games disk 1-2, but with a twist on Sephiroths endgame. There are now two Clouds, perhaps Zack’s catatonic Jenova infused version become a complete Sephiroth clone, who knows?


The heroes may need to return to their reality at some point, and sacrifices will surely be made. There is a lot of promise, but I am worried the tendency for Japanese story telling to get crazy wacky and super meta, they could really mess this up. 

 Hopefully not! Let see.

I agree with you. Time traveling part of FF7 world is weird. But go read Nojimas novella. Black and white livestream chapters. Time traveling is hinted. Advent children sepheroith also summons the ghosts. That said I don't really want a sequel but a remake. 95% of the remake game is a remake which is why I loved it so much. The 👻 sucks

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

Where does advent children Sephiroth summon ghosts? I recently watched the movie and don’t recall seeing any.

@TheHatorihanzoe

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 it's when he faces off cloud at the end and he raises his hand in the sky, lowers it and the ghosts comes down

@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheHatorihanzoe whatever that miasma is, it's not Ghosts. Nomura couldn't be bothered to write the game properly, don't try to do it for him 😅

@vincentgraymore

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheHatorihanzoe It is called Negative Lifestream and for someone hinting the novels, you should know that it is not at all the whisperers. Even if it was it would make AC a sequel to the remake and not the OG (without going into the fact that there are no rules established for how time and space now works in the FF VII universe). Also, yes the "timetravel" can be "found" if you are looking for it and if you draw hasty conclusions. The obscure novels are a "great" source for it. 2 years ago no one would have thought of an FFVII multiverse but now it makes me sick even thinking that it could be a thing. I can understand wanting "whatifs" or new content but I cannot understand people wanting time travel and dimensions in a series that has more or less actively avoided them for so many titles. It is like people do not care about a world and its setting and it becomes like WoW where every trope possible exists in the end. SE chooses to add them in a "remake" of all places. The problem is that as someone that liked everything FF VII (and "casual" not earth/fate/time shattering) in this game the whisperers foundations and rules retcons FF VIIs lore into oblivion but people do not care about the world at all (just the characters and locations). Trading a few years of curiosity for a classic story that will now forever be compared and undermined because of the fidelity of the "new story" seems to be of the highest order of disrespect to me. And when these people's curiosity is shattered by Aerith still dying and Zack never joining the party as well as no additional Sephiroth I will not share a tear. When all fan theories are wrong I will not offer any mercy. I am not confident in them actually going the same route as the OG but if they do not then the OG will really just be the bad timeline. Literally, something to that is less "worth" and many people will not get into because of outdated mechanics and 90s game fidelity. In my eyes a remake is not supposed to overshadow and forget the OG, it is supposed to enhance and bring forth the OGs qualities without changing the core and story (but yes I am very well aware that people cannot even agree on this but where was the core of Fate, ghosts connected to all time and space as well as a Sephiroth time traveler in the OG+?). A sequel is supposed to build upon the franchise to further the quality of that series, big retcons are the worse thing they can do. DoC suffered heavy backlash for it and it was tame in comparison to the remake (it is also funny how DoC is now praised as it can elevate the remake, not the world of FF VII OG+). OGs fall from grace will only get worse for each installment in the remake as more and more people will stick to the remakes modern aspects. Each installment will perhaps increase the sales and playthrough of the OG but it will not be because people are interested in FF VII but because they are interested in FF VII remake. Instead of looking for similarities, people will now obsess at looking at differences or rather how to implement them. People talk about the themes being destroyed but they are not even present and going forward it will be very hard to get back to anything even resembling it as the OG and remake stand in stark contrast in regard to theme and execution. The game does not have "added details" because these additions are insanely important as a concept of the world. It is like we would have another form of gravity added to our world but and if our world was like this remake we would be able to defeat that "new" gravity. It is not silly, it is beyond silly. As much as I liked all the characters, presentation, and style I just get angry when I think that we are not playing Cloud, Tifa, Barret, Aerith and Nanaki vs Sephiroth. We are playing Cloud 2, Tifa 2, Barret 2, Aerith NG+/0 and Nanaki 2 ½ vs Sephiroth NG++. Zack 3.0 gets to live as well as Biggs 2.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

To each other own mate It's understandable if you don't like it or if somehow it makes it unrealistic

So basically the story isn't the original and is about time travel? Final Fantasy 7-2.8 or whatever.

So my thought on this game... Based on the fact that the FF7R opening scene with Aerith is more akin to the scene with Aerith at the end of the OG, the OG never happened. It was just a vision. A premonition of the future Aerith has while communing with the Life Stream via the broken mako pipe. Just imagine waking up tomorrow knowing everything that will happen over the next few months. THAT, is the position Aerith is in. The Whispers were attempting to strip her of her memory of that vision. But we slayed them and recovered Aerith's memories. The rest of the journey is an open book, which is a great thing, because while there is a definite foundation for major change, there is an equal chance sh! t can happen to put things right back on the OG rails. Personally I'm thinking, but not expecting, choices we make in quests and dialogue to steer the plot one of two ways.

I really enjoyed this review and your right. I enjoyed the first couple hours of the game until I saw the time ghosts. I worry about any remakes they will produce in the future. If thy remake ff8 for example, will they try and derail the main story for the sake of subverting expectations too? Or is ff7 just a special case?

@yt_n-c0de-r

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, at this point one loses all hope or trust. They (probably rightfully, but not fairly) as the creators ca and will do whatever they like... some dellusional "fan" will buy it anyway and push their confidences... happens with every franchise - see pokemon and its development and still ongoing "praise" with the pockets/money.

I can’t agree more. The took the suspense away from sephiroth. The game was good but they are destroying the gem of a game they had. I don’t understand how they can rebound. Whoever had the final say really dropped the ball. This game was the top rpg. The remake should be scraped. I don’t even care how good the next installments are. Won’t be buying something that ruined my favorite game and story of all time.

@thatguybis1997

4 жыл бұрын

I blame Tetsuya Nomura hardcore to be honest. So much of his KH bull is in this game it’s ridiculous. It’s a shame cause it’s clear they worked hard on it

@hug0682

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I believe this wasn't a remake but a sequel to the OG or a sequel of advent children. But what suspense? We all know who sephiroth is and what he wants. U can't act like u would be surprised if the story played out the same as OG It would be predictable for the OG fans (unless u didn't play the OG) So they put a twist where u don't know where this leads too

I feel like im the only person in the world that actually liked the direction the remake went. Yes I was expecting a remake more true to the original story, but what we got imo was actually pleasantly surprising. I love the fact its like basically a what if scenario. Kind of like resident evil 2 remake, that game did a similar thing and that got praised while ff7 remake gets shunned by many (and I don't understand why, I thought the new plot was actually very good and still close enough to the original game that I enjoyed it). I am actually glad they didn't stay 100% true to the original story, because now I do not know what to expect in the plot and that makes it exciting. Its like I am playing ff7 for the first time all over again

@ItsSVO

Жыл бұрын

What did resident evil 2 do that’s on par with the changes in 7remake though? Also, resident evil isn’t really story driven game like FF7 was. Can I ask if you enjoyed the lord of the rings trilogy adaptation or not?

@flamingdeathbanana

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@ItsSVO I was looking for the part where RE5 Albert Wesker just randomly shows up and rips Mr.X in half and started trolling Leon throughout the entire game meanwhile, Claire goes on about changing fate and seeing the future but unfortunately, none of that ever happened.

@flamingdeathbanana

Жыл бұрын

Because Nemura hates the OG game and all of its fans. He is literally saying the ending with Red XIII running with his kids is the BAD ending where they fail. Why do all game devs nowadays have a massive boner for attacking their fans?

@AaronWOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@flamingdeathbanana naturally blowing what I said out of proportion, typical youtube users lol. All I'm saying is RE2 Remake was not the same as the original. They changed a lot of how the plot played out, like 1 example I can think of from the top of my head is originally you first meet dr william birkin in the parking garage in his human form, before he transforms. In remake, you don't meet him at all and just fight him right off the bat. all the scenarios in re2 remake play out differently than they did in the original. Its basically like you have 4 entirely new scenarios that have vague similarities to the original.

@flamingdeathbanana

Жыл бұрын

@@AaronWOfficial My favorite part of RE2 remake was when Ada Wong told Leon that the future they saw (Cause they can see the future now doncha know?) Was the future that they failed and that they need to beat the shit out of the god of Fate. I was really moved by that.

🌸❤️I am quite disappointed by what we got and my interest in the remake has dwindled. It does not matter what they do next, it is already ruined. I do not see how they turn it around.❤️🌸

@timmytimmymit5607

Жыл бұрын

They should left it alone or remastered the graphics

Great video, good to hear from someone that isn't overwhelmingly positive about the remake. I haven't played any Kingdom Hearts but agree with pretty much all the points you've made - especially about the filler content and how the game forces you on a pre-determined path. Massive fan of the original FF7 so I'm sad to see that they moved so far away from the story, especially with that ending... Nicer graphics and the improved combat system would have done just fine.

Its worth noting that Aeriths tampering with Sephiroths portal could be her attempt at preventing or altering his reality. Shes aware of the trap he setup for the party fall into. If you noticed, shes hesitant on tampering with it because she doesnt know of the implications this will have on the future, yet knows Sephiroths ideal cant or shouldnt happen. She only knows that if she doesnt do something at that moment, the future will be bleek and makes that last ditch effort. It can also be implied or inferred that her attempt/altering was also made on impulse for her desires, say for Zack to live and them to be together. I think this could be highly likely, as when we see Zack pass through Aerith and she feels his presence, she stops and her expression portrays a feeling of doubt and regret. She then says she misses the steel sky, from this we can deduce that she feels guilty for her actions due to the uncertainty and chaos shes likely caused for this new unknown future, and wishes she didnt make that decision. I dont think anyone has even touched on the significance those scenes have. Also we likely fight a clone at the end.

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

Not true I do not know if you watch Maxiliam Dood Or if you *keep up with the news and updates* of the game but The planet dies along side with humanity been wiped out 500 years later The events of AC is taking place 498 years before the actual end DOC events is taking place 497 years before the actual end *MEANING* the ending and the result is still the same Don't know how a good ending is with everyone dead And please do not say the ✌️them✌️ of FF7 cause I have done this conversation a thousand times before and I know what you gonna say 🤦‍♂️ Also as for Aerith referring with the : I miss it, the steel sky It's something Aerith have ONLY said to Zack in CC and no one else *MEANING* that : she hates the sky for taking everything away from her such as : her family, her lover and everyone she cared about Even Ultimania *FINALLY too the time for once to explain something like this* Unilike Kitase who stated in one of his interviews back in 1997 that the ending of the OG was bad and everyone died *WITHOUT EXPLAINING ANYTHING ELSE* leaving the players mind f*cked So that means Bugenhagen was right, I don't know if you remember Bugenhagen from the OG but he *DID* predicted the ending of humanity back then And we didn't see it So EVERYTHING we did back then was for nothing , ALL our *effort* was throw. Out the window So which part of all. Of this was the OG ending good??????

@blobeyeordie

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeydjimmy5169 Gee sorry for posting my thoughts and speculations on what could happen next. Its worth noting that the Remake isnt canon to og compilation but is instead creating its own canon and comp based off of the og. FF7R universe will also have its own ultimania. This has been confirmed in past and in some more recent interviews. Granted I admittedly havent been keeping up much due to work and loss of interest so I could be mistaken as of late, for that I apologize. OG FF7 was intentionally left ambiguous, why people need to know every little thing is beyond me. Coming up with and sharing ones own interpretations or theories is fun. Also, I dont care for Max's high opinion on the game, at least in regards to og FF7s subtext being thrown out the window. FF7R imo is opretty fun to play but thats it. Sakaguchi would be sad

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@blobeyeordie But I've never said you are not allowed to have an opinion XD This is a discussion video, we discuss with each other

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@blobeyeordie Actually they DID say it's part of the compilation They even said it's the fifth and final installment / title to the FF7 compilation It kinda makes it obvious

@blobeyeordie

3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeydjimmy5169 As of now and possibly throughout the games development, nobody, probably not even the writers know what will happen next(game feels back loaded tbh). While you make good observations/arguments, we wont know anything until the next episode comes out(primarily due to remake creating own canon/comp). The only thing that is certain however is that they arent afraid to make totally radical changes to the story(as they have done already), and the writers have explicitly stated this in interviews prior to, during FF7Rs development and even today. Nobody can really know for certain at his juncture and thats what they want. We could end up fighting one winged Sora in the Olympus Coliseum next.

You actually have such a great perspective and I respect you for a video as well put as this! There are many points that I agree with you on, especially the change in story which for me is a No-Go since the original was better for me as it is. Having finished the OG, it is a masterpiece which shouldn't be messed with as the story is already perfect as it is. If they were to contradict this, then the AC wouldn't make any sense, when it is to be considered as the one that will close FF7's story in its entirety. But meh, let's just see how things would play out soon enough lol. If they were to change most major plot points in the story, then it would make more fans to stray away from FF7R.

@selvenist_yt

3 жыл бұрын

And I subscribed, nice content bud! Keep up the good work! 😊

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Check out the update video (most recent upload) I made on this as well. Would love to hear your thoughts on that as well from someone who’s a fan of the original.

What I hope what could have happened in this game was knowing how Tifa is super strong and how Barret's Gun doesn't run out of ammo

Blaming everything on Nomura ain't gonna fix anything

@amimim69

3 жыл бұрын

but it is nomura's fault.isn't it?

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@amimim69 Nope

@PS5Chan360

3 жыл бұрын

It is his fault

@monkeydjimmy5169

3 жыл бұрын

@@PS5Chan360 What ever makes you sleep at night mate

@Woodzta

2 жыл бұрын

There is no fixing it. The game sold millions and they made their money so they'll milk it as much as possible and Rebirth is going to be more of the same.

It's showing Sephiroth to depict Clouds PTSD, and with the fact they had to seperate the game out into multiple (and make the first work on last gen PS4) they had to make the first compelling enough to buy the next ones even for new fans, so they had to change things up and show stuff the original didn't show this early.

You forgot to mention that one of the coolest und skilled Charakter, Red XIII, is now a nonplayable Sidekick... That was the point I gave up, no Part 2 for me. Thank you Scaresoft.

personally I can imagine the boss battle with Sephiroth being a warmup for the eventual epic boss battle from the OG game. and if FF7 Rebirth continues from where Remake left off and still has Sephiroth as the final boss considering the game is supposed to end at the City of The Ancients where Sephiroth shish-kebobs Aerith I can imagine the reasoning behind it being "Sephiroth fights the heroes to see how much stronger they've gotten since their last encounter"

OG was big broad brush strokes, if there were gaps, you could fill them in and make it more personal. I gave a big sigh and gave up at Wall Market in remake, I was exhausted.

I feel like it could be salvaged if they allow player choices to determine the story to a greater extent than they ever have before. Like if some choices lead to the og storyline and some lead to Nomruras ff7 fan fiction. Seems like to much to hope for at this point though.

Zack being alive complety ruins cloud character

@lorddiethorn

2 жыл бұрын

Or it could be memory

im glad u spoke on the music

I just wanted a 1:1 remake of the original . But square just had to be extra

I have some friends who I have made fun of for being on copium about this games story but I guess it would kind of make sense. Basically they say don't look at the remake in the title as literal, look at it as a play on words because of the theme of changing fate in the story. the game is called remake because Sephiroth is trying to remake the timeline not because its a remake of final fantasy 7 (which i'm certain they knew would be an issue). Still it is a slap in the face to the original in a multitude of ways. I am also one of those people who didn't necessarily need a 1 to 1 remake make of the original and was happy with the expansion of midgar that others saw as filler (i did ALL the side quests) but the 4rth wall breaking aspect of the characters really did ruin my expectations narrative wise. my only very minor gripe with gameplay was that there wasnt enough blue materia to use and also their wasnt any new green materia expanded upon from the original and yellow materia is basically useless until you play hardmode. I'm not excited for the "2nd" episodes story but I will buy it nonetheless, however if its story is a mess more than what was experienced in remake I wont buy the 3rd and 4th or any other episodes or expansions later because spirit of the game would be officially and maybe even canonically dead to me.

6:51 Actually that aspect is from FF IX, you get an equipment, you stick with it enough and you got the skill. the only difference is you need to actually use the equipment n time I do not criticrize whisper, multiple timelines and multiple ending should be considered for future installment, just don't make the story stays incomplete like XV (I still loath SE for cancelling Lunafreya episode)

I totally thought of Kingdom Hearts too with the stupid whispers. The whispers are dumb. And to a new player the story probably doesn’t make any sense. Even to an old player the story doesn’t make any sense. Also, they blew their wad way too quick with Sephiroth. Just throwing him in as much as possible doesn’t make it good. Sephiroth was a good villain because they did a slow burn and gradually showed us why he’s so terrifying. They just couldn’t help themselves in this game. They wanted Sephiroth NOW and you can tell. Instead of having the story gradually reveal him to us.

7:30 I hate how limit breaks in Remake work though because they can be blown in to invulnerability phases and you can't keep limit gauge between battles. I do, in fact, like using it on normies and I do, prefer, the allowance of my foresight to precharge a limit before a boss.

Thank you for this video, thumbs up👍🏻 you resumed it all. If they’re thinking about a sequel where you play Zack, why not play as Sephiroth as well since now he became a villain without teeth, they did that in The Last of Us 2 where you play as Abby, I mean....sure it created some controversy, but that was interesting plus Nomura got nothing to lose, players are not so fond of him anyway.

Yeah I have mixed feelings about sethroth being the final boss in this game on the one hand it's a an epic boss fight on the other hand it kind of comes out of nowhere and ends anticlimacticly and like you said it makes very little sense that cloud and the gang is strong enough to stand up to him like they did. That being said they did just somehow beat the kingdom hearts monster like I feel like the sense of how strong they are is honestly not very consistent lol

I do agree with everything you have said. from now on, remake is just a let's wait and see.

I don't know what on earth they were thinking! Our only hope is that the next game will give you the choice to follow the original game or go a new path.

Well I agree with most points but Zack should stay dead. Can't stress that enough. His character died so cloud could shine.

@thatguybis1997

3 жыл бұрын

You’re not gonna like the ending of intergrade

@willlauzon3744

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 I looked ahead cause I'm not buying consoles anymore but yeah... I know

@vincentgraymore

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatguybis1997 Well... did you like it? Perhaps I missed it, but what was your thoughts on intermission?

My dude ..you get it....the slums music is way too clean ...

haha that Benny Hill music for Sepiroth. I hated that game with a passion, I stopped playing it when I realized it was ruining my memories of the original 7.

Aerith's survival or death is gonna be up to the player.