If you're looking for a Bluetooth/USB DAC which sounds great, but don't require a long Bluetooth signal range, then the BTR5 is a great little device. Written review : tinyurl.com/y5d42stv To Buy : tinyurl.com/y6ebs9eu

@bradhuskers

2 жыл бұрын

I want to use with my hifiman edition xs, connected to my Lenovo laptop, and also use my samsung galaxy ultra 22 smartphone. Is this sufficient for my application?

@MuTcyXuDe

Жыл бұрын

@@bradhuskers buy a HiFi Player with such a headphones. Consider fiio/ibasso/hiby options

I’ve had mine around 6 months now. I have had almost no connection issues using LDAC and maintain a 30 to 40 foot range. You must have a bad unit.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Could perhaps be. I tried fixes that others have suggested (ensuring only 1 device is connected, downgrading to fw 1.0.4), but still no luck, unfortunately.

@SamuraiGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@samma3afans Maybe it has something to do with your phones?

@raineheartily3875

3 жыл бұрын

Mine have stutter every now and then when i jog with them. I change my phone, it does get better much less stutter, My old phone have metal back, and the new one have plastic back. But it doesn't change the fact the range is a bit short. it start to stutter when i was 5m (16 feet) away. Not sure whether its a bad unit, but from other people impression, especially from people who have both BTR5 and BTR3K, it seems the slightly newer BTR3K is still far better in connection. Which may suggest, Fiio are aware about the receiver flaw and fixed it the newer product.

I have BTR5 for few months and absolutely no problems with connections, I prefer the sound & convenience over M11 and even DX160 which are collecting dust in shelves

if i have this plugged into my mobile phone and then plugged into my car with android auto usb port will there be any benefit to the sound quality?

I've been using the BTR5 with a pair of Fiio FH9's that I won from a local audio shop giveaway near me, the prize also inc luded a Fiio M11 Plus II. I absolutely fell in love with Fiio after this. Before Fiio I was using a pair of NF Audio NE4's connected to a YinLvMei A2 Portable Player that I bought used from a shop for just 320CHF, it's around a grand new. Even though the YinLvMei looks better, the Fiio is a much better player. Though my favorite audio player is still my 40th Anniversary Walkman from Sony, look it up yourself and you'll see why.

My phone has Qualcomm Bluetooth 5.2 version! Will FiiO BTR5 2021 Standard Edition which has Bluetooth 5.0 work with my mobile? And one more concern I have! Will my phone's built-in DAC *Cirrus Logic CS43131* interfere with BTR5 Dual *ES9219C* DAC in both type of connections Bluetooth And direct USB-C DAC?

How does this compare when using it as a USB dac to something like the e10k? I'm looking to buy a btr3k.

It looks like a more premium 3rd gen iPod shuffle

While using as USB DAC btr5 and btr3k has DAC Sample Rate 384k/32bit DSD 256 , 48K/16bit respectively. Which one would be better in terms of USB DAC usage and one that would have better Bluetooth connectivity ?

Thanks for your review. Concerning signal range, did you try increasing the volume on your phone to max, and then adjusting listening volume on the BTR5? I get much better range this way.

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, volume is always set at max on the source device

Haven't had the btr5 for very long now but so far no connection issues and I'm on firmware version 1.0.6 I'm able to get up to 18 feet through 3 solid walls before the connection starts to drop.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Perhaps try and set the source devi e on a table or something, then turn around whilst holding the BTR5 near your stomach and walk away from the source device (so your back is to the source device). Check how far you can get before the signal starts cutting out.

@seventhblessing.7371

4 жыл бұрын

I just retested it the way you asked, I put my phone on my desk and walked away from it with the btr5 in my hand, held near my stomach and my back was to the source device, I was able to get up to 19 feet this time and on the 20th step, it started to drop the connection.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking that out. Honestly, I couldn't get more than about 10 feet at most doing that. And then it was also the issue of it breaking up even if I just had the source device and BTR5 in different pockets. Might just be the unit I received having issues, or perhaps a slightly wider QC issue. I remember seeing another person comment about the poor signal strength they were getting (can't remember if it was a YT or FB comment), and that prompted me to test it out too. Was rather bummed when I experienced the same issue.

@marcolino5269

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, could you connect it to your phone and to a headphone at the same time using Bluetooth ?

Did you have the BTR5 paired to more than one device? I can get up to 15 meters with AAC and a little less with LDAC but when connected to more than one device the signal will break up once one of the devices is a few meters away from the BTR5, even when the device that is playing audio is with me. Being connected to more than one device is convenient because I can use the BTR5 with either without having ti reconnect but a bit of a plain when I forget to disconnect from the one I'm not using before l go for a walk around the house.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

I did double check this now with 3 different devices, ensuring that only one of them is connected at once... Unfortunately the signal was still breaking up.

If you are on the fence about this product, don't let the connectivity issues scare you. The connection on the other DAC modes isn't the best, but is still decent when moving around the room. But with LDAC, I can climb two flights of stairs, with my phone in the basement and the btr5 on the top floor, and not have any issues with connectivity.

Good Day, great review. Out of K3 and BTR5, which one is better sounding overall?(only in Usb dac mode)

How about battery life on full volume plz.. Reply..

Btr5 vs Q5s??..

Sadly, the FiiO Music App is horrible. I got the BTR3 a couple of months ago. Started playing with all the settings available through the app and started to get connection and volume issues. Decided to uninstall the app and forget the BTR3 on my paired devices. Configured it again from zero and just forgot to use the app and all the problems stopped. I'm the guy that asked you for this review a couple of videos ago because I just ordered it. Hope I don't get any of the issues you talk about on your video! I'll keep you posted.

I think the newest BTR3K is overall a better product. It combines all the good aspects of BTR3 and BTR5. The BTR3K has 2.5 balanced output, excellent Bluetooth range, and also in a smaller form factor like BTR3. It doesn’t have NFC, anyway I hardly use that feature, eventually one device needs to be paired only once. Worth mentioning it doesn’t have a text display, but the colour coding for various Bluetooth formats woks quite well.

@ahmedsafa91

4 жыл бұрын

Btr3k got the akm dac chip which i like ..but got less power than btr5

Can this dac be used with my hifiman edition xs headphones?

Would you say that the difference between the Btr3 and the Btr5 is only slight when using an efficient iem? Thanks

The size is bigger than it should be and doesn’t contain clip in the back

finally someones who explain the distorsion compensation feature.. so by your explanation : if i dial the second harmonic to level 5 and leave the third harmonic on 0 the sound should be more analog / musical and if i leave the second harmonic on 0 and set the third harmonic to level 5 it should give a bit more colder / analytical sound? also one more question, whats the difference between the clock divider level settings?

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Correct... Even order harmonics (primarily 2nd order) occur naturally, and thus tend to sound more pleasing. Odd harmonics (third) tend to sound harsher/more analytical. Not sure about the clock divider, to be honest.

@dimswick

3 жыл бұрын

@@samma3afans must activate the distortion compansation or not??

Can it be connected via bluetooth to the phone and wireless headphones at the same time?

I used to have the old FIIO M3 DAP and the Sony NWA335 DAPs. Both were extremely ordinary products in terms of the sound quality, the Sony especially is downright bad. Got a BTR5 very recently. Sounds so good on my Ath M40x and 1more tripe drivers, restored my faith in these kind of products :p

does this thing support Bluetooth receiving? like if stream from 3.5mm then will connect to bluetooth headphones?

Didnt hear the signal issue from any other person 🤔

Do USB That use for UBS DAC mode really affect the sound quality? maybe i should change it

My Bluetooth range is 7m (~22ft) with LDAC on a Samsung A5 (2017) and only 4m (~13ft) on a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7. Both Measurements outside in the garden. Inside the first wall breaks the signal. Not good at all. Tried to downgrade the firmware which did nothing better. Then I tried an other position of the phone. I brought it to anmore vertival position with a stand instead lying flat on the table. That did it. The gain was about 4m (~13ft) The issue seems to depend on your transmittingh device and the placement of the sending antenna. All in all the BTR5 seems to have an OKish Bluetooth module. Things go worse when transmitter and receiver don't match.

I am really interested what cause that ringing with that filter . Is it the saber chips fault or the design . Does other products using same chip have these problems like up4.

Thanks!

Practically the Bluetooth transmitter feature while connected via USB is not needed at all. When connected to mobile via USB, it doesn't make sense to use it as Bluetooth transmitter. The same applies to laptops too, except usually laptops don't support hi-res codecs. Anyhow in any case, the decoding process is done by headphones itself, so no use of additional transmitter, or DAC, as it doesn't make any difference. It just takes data, and transfer... No decoding done in the device. So practically no use. Better to transmit directly from mobile or laptop

hi there, thanks for the review! I got both the btr5 and fh5 and am very happy with the pair. ( also have the meze 99 classics and moondrop starfield and they all go very nicely with the BTR5). Would like to get a good Open Back headphone (for under 500US) but am afraid the btr5 won't be able to drive it to its best potencial. Do you have any ideas or suggestion in that regard? Thanks! Best, Rodrigo.

@realfoxtrot

3 жыл бұрын

Hifiman Sundara is a flawless one for me!

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Sundara is a good pick!

I have one ,,, no problem with 10 meter range ,,,,, this good stuff ,,, great sound !!! Make everythings audio from handphone sound great ! hi res

@sarojisandamali3877

3 жыл бұрын

hi,Can it also connect to smart phone as dac?

Can you use this for gaming as well like a Soundblasterx g6?

How this fare against Shanling UP2?

Will I be able to use the buttons on my headset aswell as the microphone of my headset with the Btr5 while it's connected via USB to my phone, or will it switch over to the built in mic if the device? Seems like many of these dacs don't work well for answering calls which is a deal breaker for me.

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't think the BTR5 has a return channel either for in-line remote controls.

Hey samma, great channel honestly. I'm wondering if you've heard of the Shanling UP4? It's a little cheaper than BTR5 and has a clickable wheel for volume and track changing, slightly smaller form factor. I'm wondering if the UP4 will solve your connectivity issues

in term of sound quality, how this btr5 compared to ifi hip dac? cant choose between those two

@nield3565

4 жыл бұрын

I have both. It's much brighter and has more details compared to hip dac. I would suggest to buy btr5, the Clarity is amazing and it pairs really well with Audeze planar magnetic and audio technicas Ad series

The Bluetooth connection problem from my experience is a simple fix , all I had to do was downgrade the firmware to 1.0.4 and my problems went away , I think there is a bug in the 1.0.6 firmware.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. Tried this, but unfortunately it's still the same.

Your btr5 is failed. I revive the signal at 10 m.

Hello guys tell me 1 question can i used this FiiO Btr5 as DAC for Standard PC with headphones bluetooth ?

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, no transmission function on the BTR5. The M6 would be better suited for that. However, there will be some lag.

Fiio being fiio.

Never had a signal broke with btr5 and Asus Zenfone 6. I mean never, where other devices hickups right away. Check your source!

is this work in laptop like if i connect this with type c and i can connect ldac codec headphone and use it by laptop?

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, no transmission function.

@okok-oc4ko

3 жыл бұрын

@@samma3afans I heard that it can be used as an external wired dac tho. Also did a bit of searching at google and it turns out true.

hi,Can it also connect to smart phone via wire as usb dac?

@samma3afans

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, provided that you use an appropriate OTG cable for Android or CCK cable for iOS

@sarojisandamali3877

3 жыл бұрын

@@samma3afans thanks 4 the reply 😘

You forgot to show the thing actually in use and you failed to demonstrate all of the features. You weren't the only one who had this issue though. Try finding a video that actually shows how you skip tracks on this thing.

Have you reached out to FIIO and asked them WTF? They were responsive to a defective BT3 over twitter.

Can i use this with andriod as usb dac ?

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Assuming that your android device supports USB Host mode, then yes, it should work.

@kishoreabraham

4 жыл бұрын

Android devices have LDAC codec built-in. It was proprietary codec for Sony, but now it bacame part of Android. So, If you use it with LDAC codec, probably no difference between wired and wireless, unless you have a very resolving and expensive earphones. Another thing, it charges from the device. So your mobile battery drains. So better use with Bluetooth only

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

Not all Android devices can use the LDAC format. Nokia, for example, don't support LDAC for some reason. Which is weird, since LDAC is part of Android (as you said).

@moonabhinav

4 жыл бұрын

@@kishoreabraham i have good enough not the best headphone m50x, fiio fh1s, magasoi k3 pro, bqeyz kb100 and ath e40. I have fiio x3 version 3 for dap but phone dac is not good, some of the copyright songs are only available on Spotify,so cannot play on fiio x3. Phone i have is lgv20 and xaiomi k20pro, both support usb otg and ldac but the sound output quality is not close to fiio x3 so wanted some better usb dac for phone.

@moonabhinav

4 жыл бұрын

@@samma3afans thanks for the help, i hope some day we can buy from your store in india as well. I always refer your videos for better analysis.

I was wondering if it's necessary the safely unplug or turn off the btr5 to unplug in usb dac mode from windows pc? this apply to usb dac mode on android smartphones? also, i always use the btr5 usb dac mode with charge option turn off but it's wrong if i use it with charge option turn on or it´s necessary desactivate this option to take care of btr5 and don't listen any audio distortion?

@agoogleuser9025

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean Car mode?

@brayanvaldezrodriguez9893

4 жыл бұрын

@@agoogleuser9025 no i mean usb dac mode, but it's ok, i posted it on the official forum and they answer me, there is no any requirement to unplug this device from a pc or smartphone

@agoogleuser9025

4 жыл бұрын

@@brayanvaldezrodriguez9893 Ahh, so the battery will be safe if continuously plugged? I am curious to use as USB DAC on a daily basis.

@brayanvaldezrodriguez9893

4 жыл бұрын

@@agoogleuser9025 Not necessarily, but i knew that the battery from any portable device whom receive continuous energy can reduce the battery life, if it reached 100 percent, also if your not use a device the best option to take care of the battery life is to save it at around 50 percent of battery. Knowing this i use the btr5 with charge turned off when it has full charge and i activate when it is around 20 percent, after all it takes me 5 seconds to do this

@brayanvaldezrodriguez9893

4 жыл бұрын

My question was about, if it was if the fact of doing a quick disconnection affected the internal components or something because the two dacs or the fpga and xmos chip is in the middle of the process data, because they are receiving data through the usb port and such a disconnection could affect their configuration or something like that but there is any problem according to an administrator on the fiio forum

This vs fiio k3?

@agoogleuser9025

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know as well, BTR5 in USB DAC mode for daily use.

For range and battery. BTR3K all the way

Update to 2.0 firmware

Hi can you please review FiiO Fd1.

@samma3afans

4 жыл бұрын

If/when FiiO sends a review sample I'll be sure to do so.