Fighting Cartels That Are Fueling the Fentanyl Crisis (w/Jack Riley)- Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

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Jack Riley is the retired Deputy Administrator of the DEA, the administration’s No. 2 position. He led the manhunt team that captured notorious Mexican cartel leader Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán and is the author of the book Drug Warrior: Inside the Hunt for El Chapo and the Rise of America's Opioid Crisis. He is an expert on Mexican drug cartels and the roots of the modern fentanyl crisis.
On this episode of Chang Agents, Andy and Jack discuss what can be done to stop the flow of drugs into the country.
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  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad8 ай бұрын

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  • @natejackson4791
    @natejackson479110 ай бұрын

    That's an outstanding guest, I would love to hear more of his story. Thank you for the presentation.

  • @davecollins6113
    @davecollins611310 ай бұрын

    Another guy I'd like to see in a 2-3hr podcast, some good stuff there.

  • @grumpygardner3059
    @grumpygardner305910 ай бұрын

    That was very eye opening. I'm completely baffled as to any reasons why the Legislator's do not consider these issues a National Crisis.

  • @billbradleymusic

    @billbradleymusic

    9 ай бұрын

    You're getting closer to the truth.

  • @mattmarzula

    @mattmarzula

    9 ай бұрын

    They're paid not to.

  • @SinIsWack101

    @SinIsWack101

    2 ай бұрын

    Money talks

  • @craigfinno551

    @craigfinno551

    2 ай бұрын

    They work with the cartels why do you think there letting in so many illegals our government is letting the cartels set up shop here so they can wreak havoc then theyll take away our guns and make us accept more patriot acts on steroids to spy on us and set up a dictatorship for national security

  • @luigipascucci6760
    @luigipascucci67609 ай бұрын

    Lol you had me at the 8a.m. to 10 a.m. work schedule. Bless there Hea❤rts I almost spat out my coffee .

  • @MrCashewkitty
    @MrCashewkitty9 ай бұрын

    I did a lot of shady shit in and out of every border town from TX to CA back in the early 2000s Juarez was the only one that I was ever worried in. It was rough back then, can't imagine now!

  • @bbarker5766
    @bbarker57669 ай бұрын

    Fentanyl and heroine are all over the place around here. They do a lot to try and lessen the amount but it only works for a little while and the dealers just keep moving around. I had video's of drug deals going to this one apartment when I lived in HUD housing and there was a police substation no more than 80' away and they still didn't do anything.

  • @SmidgeofSnow
    @SmidgeofSnow3 ай бұрын

    I am so glad I found this channel from Mike Forces channel. Gentleman thank you for you integrity, honor and your service….. former Air-force mom…. Our Country has been at War w these drug dealers etc for decades…. We need to treat it as such. Thx, looking for hope.

  • @liontribegc
    @liontribegc9 ай бұрын

    We love what you guys are doing! Cheers from Texas! 🤘😺🤘 Michael

  • @travisbond635
    @travisbond63510 ай бұрын

    Great job as always. God bless you all and God bless America.

  • @thisisironclad

    @thisisironclad

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for listening

  • @billbradleymusic

    @billbradleymusic

    9 ай бұрын

    Which job exactly?

  • @travisbond635

    @travisbond635

    9 ай бұрын

    @billbradleymusic Getting the word out on subjects that we dont hear about from the mainstream media. These guys and gals that make this show are true Americans that care about this country of ours. God bless.

  • @internet_internet
    @internet_internet10 ай бұрын

    Wait, Ironclad also does a podcast with the guys from the Roadster Shop? My god, two of my my favorite worlds colliding in one media space, former SEALs talking with amazing people about incredibly important topics, and some of the best custom car builders to ever do it. Ironclad, if y’all have any presence in the north Austin area, let’s be friends. 😁

  • @internet_internet
    @internet_internet10 ай бұрын

    This was GREAT! I love this guy.

  • @TheDeedeeFiles
    @TheDeedeeFiles3 ай бұрын

    It's never about drugs.. just The trophy's 😊

  • @allendaigle1471
    @allendaigle147110 ай бұрын

    Another great and informative episode.

  • @Janzer_
    @Janzer_10 ай бұрын

    if we handled things like they do with HVTs in the military, bringing force, tech, and manpower to bear against drug traffickers, we could actually make an impact.

  • @billbradleymusic

    @billbradleymusic

    9 ай бұрын

    That's no shit. War could happen because of it but you're dead on.

  • @ELBigBossMK23

    @ELBigBossMK23

    9 ай бұрын

    Hopefully, cartels have drones, some weapons training and guerilla warfare training, south American special ops as well as US vets amongst their ranks, home territory, mountainous terrain, American law enforcement and politicians on payroll and probably intelligence agents too.

  • @user-vj4vl7le4y

    @user-vj4vl7le4y

    9 ай бұрын

    When I was still in the army in 2008, that was not a realistic expectation, mainly because there were so many of the cartels people that had already infiltrated United States armed service

  • @cadetheimpaler
    @cadetheimpaler9 ай бұрын

    Outstanding interview. Really!

  • @MichaelWheelock
    @MichaelWheelock10 ай бұрын

    Great discussion

  • @mikewinter7697
    @mikewinter76979 ай бұрын

    I agree with Andy. That was a great ending. I really hope we have more people like him trying to protect our country!!

  • @kbartlett1888
    @kbartlett18882 ай бұрын

    That was class, great listening

  • @ravisahota8977
    @ravisahota89779 ай бұрын

    Good interview 🇨🇦

  • @roytrujillo4944
    @roytrujillo49449 ай бұрын

    An incredible man with an awesome story hopefully the right solution is found to this epidemic soon

  • @georgecoull1883
    @georgecoull18839 ай бұрын

    This show is always so damn good I can't believe it doesn't have millions of likes

  • @Geezerelli

    @Geezerelli

    9 ай бұрын

    People can’t take the truth 😂

  • @bluestarlily1354
    @bluestarlily13549 ай бұрын

    My daughter Kimmie died of Fentanyl poisoning May 2022. She was one month and 9 days short of Her 25th birthday. Kimmie is Forever 24.

  • @asnark7115

    @asnark7115

    9 ай бұрын

    RIP. I've heard some stories from people I know about their children or children's friends dying of Fentanyl OD when they thought they were playing with something they (the story tellers) used to do as experiments or once-in-awhile fun; such as X or acid that turned out to laced. I doubt it has ever been this dangerous to be a kid.

  • @user-vj4vl7le4y

    @user-vj4vl7le4y

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@asnark7115you can call people storytellers as much as you want. You don't have to believe anything for it to be true

  • @slynn5138

    @slynn5138

    2 ай бұрын

    Fentanyl is such a terrible drug and has done so much damage to our society and especially to the younger generation. I’m so sorry for your loss.

  • @pamelafrye4667
    @pamelafrye46678 ай бұрын

    Great interview & Great man 🙏 ❤...God bless him 🙏 ❤ & his family, friends & community 🙏 ❤...

  • @rebeccapelegrin7898
    @rebeccapelegrin78989 ай бұрын

    Thank you gentlemen.

  • @texascrimestories

    @texascrimestories

    Ай бұрын

    Lol, m3xican herion isn't piwder its that nasty tar shit

  • @Chertoff88
    @Chertoff8810 ай бұрын

    Didn't our training and resources the last time just create Los Zetas?

  • @jonathanramos8414

    @jonathanramos8414

    9 ай бұрын

    Those guys were school of the Americas graduates

  • @jonathanramos8414

    @jonathanramos8414

    9 ай бұрын

    All the original gafes soldiers of the zetas are now dead

  • @asnark7115

    @asnark7115

    9 ай бұрын

    And the Contra death squads, and the Colombian cartels, and Saddam Hussein, and Osama Bin Laden, and the Afghan opium lords, and ISIS, and Al-Nusra, and...

  • @user-eo3dr3jk4v
    @user-eo3dr3jk4v10 ай бұрын

    Keep up the good fight...

  • @justincook8473
    @justincook84739 ай бұрын

    I believe the host is referring to the book Dreamland, which is about the rx opioid crisis and subsequent heroin crisis.

  • @Bids4Lids
    @Bids4Lids4 ай бұрын

    The book “Drug warrior” was really good I highly recommend it!

  • @FingerIndexer
    @FingerIndexer3 ай бұрын

    another great interview, Fentanyl is an absolute scourge.At first glance I thought this he was sitting down to chat with Jerry Sandusky

  • @SembuaHumpdediddle
    @SembuaHumpdediddle3 ай бұрын

    Within a certain span of time. Within a certain spell of time. Within a certain length of time. Periods repeat. A stanalone bit of time is not a period.

  • @user-eo3dr3jk4v
    @user-eo3dr3jk4v10 ай бұрын

    Yes!! The extradition to the US for these crimes would be HUGE, both for getting them off the streets and as a deterant. If they're involved in traffic across the border, lock them up here. More money needed here in the US, for more prisons, or incentive for privatization of prisons , here in the US. The ability to keep them for lengthy prison sentences, without the chance of parole. Back to tough on crime. Well said and thank you Sirs for an educating podcast....😀

  • @veritas6466

    @veritas6466

    9 ай бұрын

    You are advocating a drug enforcement policy that is unequivocally an abject failure! Case in point, Escobar is more than off the street and in jail… He’s dead. Is the Medellin cartel gone or reorganized under younger, more ruthless leadership? Are the peasants of Peru and Bolivia still growing cocoa? Another more recent example is El Chapo. He’s off the street, extradited to the US, locked up in a SuperMax prison and now the Sinaloa Cartel is stronger than ever. Using the same disastrous drug policy approach repeatedly begets the same results.

  • @poetryfrompoverty
    @poetryfrompoverty4 ай бұрын

    9:33 Organized crime knows how to survive regime change 17:00 Sean helps by sticking his pen in at the wrong time 25:50 Business opportunity opens up 28:50 Highly lethal drug 31:50 Designating as terrorist organizations 36:06 Risk of doing this job 40:50 Importance of public pressure 43:53 Comparing with 30 years ago... 45:40 Working as a cohesive unit

  • @Alarcon664
    @Alarcon6643 ай бұрын

    I would like to hear the story of his whole career. Seems very interesting

  • @JohnDoe69986
    @JohnDoe6998610 ай бұрын

    Why such short episodes?

  • @CarlosCastro-du7ou
    @CarlosCastro-du7ou10 ай бұрын

    Great Job! Very informative. But nobody talks about the other side of the problem. How about an episode on how the millions of Americans are feeding the fentanyl problem

  • @lexstacks6944

    @lexstacks6944

    9 ай бұрын

    Well its flooded our streets and communities. I live in AZ a border state, and its everywhere! 1ea or even less. If there wasn't as much fentanyl supply here, then people wouldn't be as addicted, and therefore wouldn't be AS addicted and would have a much better chance at recovery and getting clean if they could only get say 5-10 pills/blues a day instead of 50+ a day to smoke. Some people i know smoke 70-100 a day bcuz there so cheap now. Thats a result of the supply going way way up these past couple of years..

  • @ripblackmamba08
    @ripblackmamba082 ай бұрын

    Love this guy could listen to his stories for days I wish I could sit down with him forc6 months and just ask questions

  • @scottholmes2276
    @scottholmes22769 ай бұрын

    Man it’s crazy we can’t find a way to stop this madness. At this point I think it’s to late… jmo

  • @DerrickLytlephoto
    @DerrickLytlephoto9 ай бұрын

    Jack calls cartels guys idiots yet everything he’s done to combat them failed. That’s funny.

  • @007DGO
    @007DGO3 ай бұрын

    Ask him about las cruces and how close that bounty was gonna get collected

  • @RogerSmith-lc9lo
    @RogerSmith-lc9lo4 ай бұрын

    Like to see a podcast on Mayo sambada

  • @P51
    @P5110 ай бұрын

    this sounds like a demand-side problem-- otherwise you're just playing whack-a-mole

  • @carrow2250
    @carrow22509 ай бұрын

    Dammit, Sean Penn

  • @sethdunlap9868
    @sethdunlap986810 ай бұрын

    The DEA is the only gov't alphabet organization I see the importance of. I've seen too many strangers, friends, and family members lose themselves and their lives to drugs. Knowing that this administration is deliberately keeping the border wide open to help keep the flow going is sickening!

  • @popogejo7245

    @popogejo7245

    10 ай бұрын

    Look at history! This is a problem that no "government" in all history has ever solved. Bring one perp to justice, and 10,000 rise from the mud to replace him\her. Drugs, (heroin\cocaine\meth\ scrooms) have controlled Europe since the Roman empire. The cartels control these guys bosses!!! The top contributor to Nancy Polosi's campaign was Chappo himself. The cartels put Hobbs in the governor's chair in Arizona. They own and control most of the small and medium towns along the Texas border, as well as several large ones. If you think Chappo is in a "jail" cell in a super max in Colorado, you obviously don't know how this thing works. Maybe someone who looks a lot like Chappo is setting in a cell in Colorado, but the chances it's Chappo are slim to none. This is a moral issue NOT a legal one, that will be with us until the demand dries up. The same goes for human trafficking. Human trafficking with be with us until, the middle aged pervs from the burbs are cleaned up or incarcerated. We have to stop this ourselves. Setting in front of the TV watching another fixed football game isn't gonna do it.

  • @Janzer_

    @Janzer_

    10 ай бұрын

    anyone that says, "decriminalize all drugs", is living in an idealistic mindframe devoid of life experience.

  • @mikesmith7497

    @mikesmith7497

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Janzer_ Well that's defiantly not true.

  • @billbradleymusic

    @billbradleymusic

    9 ай бұрын

    Hilarious! Supply and demand. Supply doesn't create drug addicts. Drug addicts need supply of which there are people happy to oblige.

  • @billbradleymusic

    @billbradleymusic

    9 ай бұрын

    The administration doesn't matter. They're all in on trade with other countries no matter the items.

  • @johnferguson4985
    @johnferguson49859 ай бұрын

    Guys name at the beginning is George Marquadt.

  • @Adrienne-lf9li
    @Adrienne-lf9li9 ай бұрын

    Congress don't have a lack of understanding they are turning their heads. If this problem reached their lives and communities they would react appropriately.

  • @asnark7115

    @asnark7115

    9 ай бұрын

    Not really. It already has and they still take the laundered cash.

  • @patricknoveski6409
    @patricknoveski64093 ай бұрын

    Wow! Here is a Man with answers. But Congress ain't listening. Story of our Country isn't it?😢

  • @billbradleymusic
    @billbradleymusic9 ай бұрын

    ❤pot gets rotten... Sounds like bullshit if its already dried out. Key to conversation; they dry it before shipping.

  • @saulayala4970
    @saulayala49709 ай бұрын

    Sir. Excellent topic. But like the LAPD Captain, this guy is a suit. Please get some of the DEA, US Marshall, and US military on the ground in Mexico when Chapo was arrested. They will tell you the real frontline story

  • @johnhunt9674

    @johnhunt9674

    9 ай бұрын

    They'll tell you it's an absolute waste of resources to keep fighting a drug war that will NEVER be won.

  • @ericthomas9915
    @ericthomas99159 ай бұрын

    🗣

  • @Horsed_Beef
    @Horsed_Beef9 ай бұрын

    This guy is a fucking hero. Honestly, a true role model. I wish he were still involved in this work instead of retired.

  • @sentfromdaniel
    @sentfromdaniel10 ай бұрын

    AND STILL the families of Officer Brian Terry (Complete Badass) and the 9 US citizen Mormons adults and mostly toddlers have no real justice. Those were our Mormons!

  • @ryancarmody2168
    @ryancarmody21689 ай бұрын

    All due respect but I don’t believe that arrest did anything to the cartels in Mexico. I would argue it might’ve made things worst.

  • @tinydane69
    @tinydane697 ай бұрын

    Andy..why are the interviewees in black in white in these episodes? Just wondering.

  • @brunodanner7777
    @brunodanner77774 ай бұрын

    Interesting: the latest reports are that Charo was not the 'big boss'. That is being proven true by facts on the ground.

  • @pinkoslayer
    @pinkoslayer4 ай бұрын

    Dupont. Not surprising really.

  • @FeloniousSavage
    @FeloniousSavage9 ай бұрын

    When covid first hit i would allegedly smuggle illegal immigrants across the border to make some extra cash... The cartel coyotes called me "El Solo Lobo" which means "The lone wolf 🐺"

  • @gregkelso595
    @gregkelso59510 ай бұрын

    He might be onto something, Extradition straight to GITMO.

  • @JP-bx1qm
    @JP-bx1qm10 ай бұрын

    Hit 🏡 😎

  • @wm1979wm
    @wm1979wm10 ай бұрын

    Change the laws regarding pain meds prescribed by US medical doctors. Look back to when this started and how the fda and congress goes from one extreme to the other regarding this. Let the pendulum swing back to the common sense middle ground (thankfully it has started to very slowly)

  • @garyt-of6yb
    @garyt-of6yb9 ай бұрын

    BIDEN HAS LET THEM IN OUR COUNTRY!

  • @lionnamedsmokey3845
    @lionnamedsmokey38459 ай бұрын

    Idk but IM A FENTANYL ADDICT I snort 1-2 grams a day. It sucks. Ruined my whole life.

  • @DontFollowMe1988
    @DontFollowMe19889 ай бұрын

    Chapo was the fall guy. El Mayo is and always will be the King.

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer9 ай бұрын

    Just say no to fentanyl. Unites states Gun industry best customer Cartels.

  • @bwanahaguziki307
    @bwanahaguziki3079 ай бұрын

    You worked on bringing Colombia to their knees ? How'd that work out for you? Lolol...BTW you guys murdered Kiki Camerena..hands pretty dirty

  • @jonathanramos8414

    @jonathanramos8414

    8 ай бұрын

    The only groups in colombia that run cocaine trafficking Is the paramilitaries and the guerrilla insurgents. Their major cartels are largely gone. Yes they still have cartels but not all that powerful like the Mexican cartels now

  • @jamieleeburke8206
    @jamieleeburke82069 ай бұрын

    I love your podcasts but the black and white ain't working

  • @j4v-cyberpunk-music
    @j4v-cyberpunk-music10 ай бұрын

    But he is looking at it from a fighting the seller perspective and that is what the actual root cause making also money on drugs abuses. The higher up the food change in the busines, the saver the position if the bottum gets exchanged easily. That's why Drive In staff earns less than Manhatten layers. The actual problem is a market law: Demand meets Offer. Who would not understand in the U.S. what Fentanyl is? To fight this crisis, like all other crisis, we have to understand who asks for this substance. The U.S. military had big issues with mental health of the soldiers and invested in resiliance programs. There is a TED talk on KZread of the very woman that lead that research. Unfortunatelly, a lot of media outlets started to mix up resiliance with resistance. Drug use is another form of mental health and needs the same research to understand how we as a society can stop humans from creating demand, how we can change society to create humans creating demand and finaly to understand how to stop humans from feeding that demand. #MIB

  • @deemushroomguy
    @deemushroomguy9 ай бұрын

    What if we created "by choice" concentration camps? Opiate addicted troublemakers get funneled there to get off opiates. If they can pass a random drug test 3 times over the course of 3 weeks, they can leave... Otherwise, the timer resets and they're stuck there for another 3 weeks, minimum. It is by choice that they're stuck there without privileges, as it's their choice to continue to use.

  • @regilee9003

    @regilee9003

    4 ай бұрын

    3 years

  • @veritas6466
    @veritas646610 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry. We’re been losing the war drugs since prohibition. It’s time for a different approach!

  • @jjjnnn6734
    @jjjnnn67349 ай бұрын

    Seems like Trump has been the only president in recent era to take the border very seriously.

  • @hawks4evr147
    @hawks4evr1472 ай бұрын

    arriba el chapo guzman

  • @JK-vc7ie
    @JK-vc7ie10 ай бұрын

    If Americans didn’t take the drugs then there wouldn’t be any drug dealers. It’s our fault. Take responsibility for your actions.

  • @Janzer_

    @Janzer_

    10 ай бұрын

    that's faulty logic, often spoken by non-americans. a drug is addicting, let's understand that as the basis here. something that is addicting, and the more addicting it is, will cause people to seek it out. people did not seek out addicting drugs, addicting drugs were introduced by some and a whole market was built around this. south american countries that are just now putting in jail all their cartel gangs such as honduras and el salvador, allowed their country to become corrupt by drug trafficking to the united states. those countries created more of the problem by flooding the US with drugs. we would have less of a problem if there weren't as many drugs going around. period. so back at you with that same comment, "take responsibility for your actions", is what I say to those that are importing drugs and have allowed their countries to exist around the corruption of drug trafficking.

  • @JK-vc7ie

    @JK-vc7ie

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Janzer_ I am an American. And the logic is crystal clear. I am not addicted to drugs because I don’t take drugs. Humans must take ownership of their lives and actions. The gangs and cartels only have money because Americans are voluntarily giving them money.

  • @JK-vc7ie

    @JK-vc7ie

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Janzer_ “a drug is addicting”. No shit. That’s why you don’t take drugs.

  • @JK-vc7ie

    @JK-vc7ie

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Janzer_ You can only control your actions. If you don’t take drugs you can’t be addicted. It don’t care if the cartel is offering them for free. I choose not to take them. This could not be more simple.

  • @dsmfury
    @dsmfury9 ай бұрын

    Labeling them as terrorists would also bring about boots on the ground and we could go after the lithium!! I mean umm freedom and drugs yes against the fentanyl and put an end to the epidemic. Yes thats right😂

  • @slynn5138

    @slynn5138

    2 ай бұрын

    If we labeled the cartels as terrorist organizations the citizens of Mexico 🇲🇽 would have a valid reason to flee their country and request amnesty in the United States 🇺🇸

  • @johnhunt9674
    @johnhunt96749 ай бұрын

    What a terrible guest to have on.

  • @user-te3pv8lx5v
    @user-te3pv8lx5v9 ай бұрын

    How long do we let this continue? As a Philly resident I’d like know know.. my city is falling apart 😢someone please stop it

  • @slynn5138

    @slynn5138

    2 ай бұрын

    Kensington is a nice area!

  • @Rikqster776
    @Rikqster7769 ай бұрын

    Montana LEO needs to pull over voluminous speeding out of state cars on 93 would be a great start… @agKnudsen

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