Ah, the dreaded ME-51.

@Waty8413

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's Bf-51...

@Waltham1892

4 жыл бұрын

@@Waty8413 History Channel Fanatic...

@pakrej

4 жыл бұрын

I thought these were P-190

@Waltham1892

4 жыл бұрын

@@pakrej no, the P-190's were radials.

@pakrej

4 жыл бұрын

@@Waltham1892 No, I mean P-190D-9, famous "Long nose Dora". :-)

I miss the days when fighter pilots had an entire orchestra to play music for them while preparing to take off.

@markh9875

2 жыл бұрын

That was part of the New Deal, making work for people who studied something special, like music.

@BOORAGG

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, considering it was actually the sound track from the Movie Submarine D1.

@pkmcburroughs

2 жыл бұрын

@@markh9875 During the Depression, my great grandfather played clarinet in a small orchestra that provided musical accompaniment for people just walking down the street.

@douglasmcroberts9586

2 жыл бұрын

And sometimes during flight!!!

@howardamonick86

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought that was a little goofy also.

2 things I love about WWII aircraft: how colorful they were and how they were personalized with artwork.

My grandfather brought down 40 Messerschmitts BF109s..... he was an awful mechanic

@jimblywimbly8582

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@nobodyknows4590

4 жыл бұрын

That's a solid dad joke. I'm stealing it.

@brucehart7412

4 жыл бұрын

Nice... LOL!!!

@ncc17701a

4 жыл бұрын

At least he never left any of the fockers up there.

@mariacornwallis1602

4 жыл бұрын

@@ncc17701a ha ha

That's a lot of stolen Mustangs the Germans took....

@edwardpate6128

6 жыл бұрын

Well at the time not a lot of 109's around to use so the mustangs just had to stand in. At least if they used the B or C models they would have looked closer!

@jacks4733

5 жыл бұрын

They were flown by the Arizona Air Guard in the movie you dumb shit!

@pascalchauvet4230

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the Germans smuggled some captured P-51s in American formations

@maureencora1

4 жыл бұрын

They Should Been P-51Bs

@spreadeagled5654

4 жыл бұрын

StormTrooper Commander, The Luftwaffe DID fly some captured P-51s in action, but with yellow painted undersides and Luftwaffe markings! 🇩🇪

I love the mix of fighter group markings in the one group. Too funny

@trikkke11

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering myself: all these different nose and tail colours don't make sense, do they ? The colours were meant to recognize your flight and/or squadron mates. That is not going to work this way, is it ? Unless they are different squads taking off at the same time.

@PauloPereira-jj4jv

2 жыл бұрын

@@trikkke11 ... because those were REAL planes, with real markings of real units/squadrons, all mixed pretending to be WW II units. This was filned in 1948. The public was expected not to pay attention in "details". Historical accuracy was not a problem then. Sometimes, not even today 😂

Such great P-47 footage in this movie!

@mustaphaghazi2794

2 жыл бұрын

Ala

@leadsolo2751

2 жыл бұрын

P-51 too

When Galland asked Goering for a squadron of Spitfires he should have persisted. Someone a little later got a squadron of Mustangs for the Luftwaffe.

Cool movie for 1948! It’s even in color! With REAL planes like these, who needs CGI? 👏

@chpman2013

2 жыл бұрын

Well, in 1948, there was plenty of those planes and they were still pretty solid. Today, there is very few of them and they're very antiquated.

I loved how one of the German pilots, flying a P-51, had his landing gear down in a dogfight ! Must be hard to get any speed that way . Also one of the P-47's took off without a drop tank . Knew it was going to be a local engagement , no doubt .

@chpman2013

2 жыл бұрын

I think that was footage of a D3A Val dive bomber.

I NEVER KNEW THE GERMANS FLEW "P-51D mustangs"..I thought only the americans had those...

@welshpete12

2 жыл бұрын

Nope , they didn't like the colour , so they gave them to the Yanks !

@eduardtrygubov9621

2 жыл бұрын

😁

@Realitygetreal

2 жыл бұрын

My first exact thought, but like the MIG28's (F5 tigers in topgun) you use what you got most people will never know

@paul8158

2 жыл бұрын

They were just a little short of planes during the war. Bought some for cheap.

Those Germans are tough! Fritzie took a .50 cal round right to the forehead and his head is still intact!

@irish89055

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@fliegeroh

2 жыл бұрын

Looked like he had a slight headache

This movie is a Technicolor feast for the eyes of WWII flight gear & equipment.

In those days standard fighter pilot training included the use of snarky comments while firing your guns.

@Rumblegrumbler

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

I love the start of a P-47 with just the push of a button and, of course the massed flyover.

They used Oscoda as the American base and Lake Huron as the English channel. The drop tanks were made of pressed paper and disposable. They were difficult to construct and supply on demand for the air war in Europe. The film company had the same problems acquiring them for the movie. The P 47 pilots in the movie were combat veterans who went on the fly in the Korean war after filming the movie.

Wurtsmith AFB in Michigan was used for the movie, they launched the first B-52's of desert storm and now is the maintenance base for Kalitta Air.

German Mustang planes so that was there secret weapon.

@borisjohnson1944

4 жыл бұрын

and they would have got away with it if it hadn't been for those damn meddling kids!!

@patrickcannady2066

4 жыл бұрын

Jeez what if Willy Messerschmitt had been just a bit smarter and put bubble canopies with armored glass behind the pilot's head instead of those godawful coffin like hoods with the heavy frames and all that rear fuselage restricting the pilot's view? It's a miracle anyone survived more than six weeks flying a 109 in actual A2A combat give how difficult it is to see out of its cockpit.

@karenstjohn6759

4 жыл бұрын

USA#1 !! True Grammar Nazis would say “ihr” which is German for “their”.

@hovanti

4 жыл бұрын

@@karenstjohn6759 Ja, bestimmt!

@topgeardel

4 жыл бұрын

So question...was this just another Hollywood screw up or did the Germans somehow get access to Mustangs? I never knew that if they did.

Saw this movie when I was only 4 years old and now that I'm in my sixties now I still loved this movie.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

First saw this in 1964..Knew right away those weren't Messerschmitt 109s..!! Dad, watching with me, set me straight as to why..even at 14-15, made sense...Thanks Dad!!

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

..And I'm 71, still think its,pretty good. .a bit hoaky, overdone music track, but good. Always ,was a Edmund O'Brien/ Robt. Stack fan!!

@richardarcher7177

2 жыл бұрын

@@samburkes7552 Yeah, you watch it for the real aeroplanes and switch off with everything else.

Everyone talks about p-51s or Corsairs. Those P47s were really the bad a$$ planes. Tremendous firepower and armor for pilot protection.

@Waty8413

4 жыл бұрын

True, and they probably would have been a better better suited for use inthe Korean war compared to the Mustang for ground attack roles. The late war P-47s were also rather fast.

@marquee6

4 жыл бұрын

Their look was decieving. The more altitude the got, the more maneuverable they became.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

@@marquee6 True indeed!! Republic created one gell of a,fighting airplane!

@Combatpzman

4 жыл бұрын

Many fighter planes in WW2, had pilot armour (ME-109/FW190, Spitfire, Typhoon, P51, late war Zeros, Kate’s and so on), and around vital engine parts in some cases, not just the P47. It was numbers, and good training programs that gave the P47 its superiority,

@edmondmcdowell9690

3 жыл бұрын

Nicknamed " the jug".

I must dig out my “European Air War” game from GOG to play a P-47D campaign after watching this.

I get a kick out of the mix of ETO and MTO fighter squadrons in one group.

Small note, if you noticed the scene of the pilot handing his cigar to the crew chief, that was a direct take off from the WWII combat footage film thunderbolt

The German Luftwaffe must have been part of the "Lend Lease" program prior to the war. Hilarious. Oh well, it's only a movie lol.

@brettjohnson8431

3 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, the Blohm and Voss PE-51 Hengst (Stallion) Fighter, one of the most secret WWII German aircraft. Powered by the BMW V12 copy of a Merlin/Packard engine and fueled with 110LL AvGas and Peppermint Schnapps (as an octane booster and it smelled nice for the ground crew!). I also like the P-47 base, looks like it was in California with acres of concrete, rather than southern England. They must have been big drop tanks, either that or the Germans had come a long way West during the war!!! I also thought I saw a B-36 Peacemaker taxi by at the start? I used my high school German to translate the German Pilot's RT - he said "...now we find out if a V12 is better than a twin row radial!- gulp"...

@patrickjernigan1025

3 жыл бұрын

They were fighting in Korea in 1948 WW2 was over

@bigroybr69

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@covertops19Z

2 жыл бұрын

@@brettjohnson8431 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍LMAO

@kentleytaggart5816

2 жыл бұрын

Out standing 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Ahh..the dreaded, secret ME-51 that was NEVER seen in combat..until now 😂

This was Warner Bros over the top period when they had trouble pulling people away from their new TV sets. They compensated with extra brassy music, saturated color, hammy dialog and gee whiz scripts. Gotta love all that WW2 hardware though. The government couldn't crush or give away P-47s fast enough back then.

Ah, the dreaded Kraut P-51 against the Jug. This is an UFFDA for sure.

Some great footage of the famous jug.p47

A quicky movie for the theater chains. Most of these aircraft were later sold to South American countries. It featured Re-cycled Music and much footage from the WW2 Documentry film "Thunderbolt" that was filmed in Italy and Corsica area. Dialogue and logic is amazingly adolescent. Yet as a kid I thought it was the best. Just the scenes of these vintage aircraft make this film always watchable. One of Rocky Hudson's first film roles with NO lines.

So nice to see so many jugs in one place. I wish it was possible to get all the airworthy ones together

2:06 I was wondering why they're zig-zagging along the taxiway and then I realised it's because they can't see over the nose.

@tanitatt

4 жыл бұрын

they would do that for Corsairs as well

@Biggles2498

4 жыл бұрын

It's because the Pilots are all still drunk from the night before.

@michaelingalls9220

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, their planes' noses were so big, they had to zigzag to see where they were going. Sometimes they had mechanics sit on the wings and guide them.

@davidsaunders1125

3 жыл бұрын

The Spitfire had the same problem!

I once met a P-47 veteran who was returning to England for a 50 year reunion.

When I was a kid I used to believe the cockpits were so big because of movies like this. Now you can see them in real life on KZread and they're so cramped. I don't care P-51 or ME-109. Much much smaller than these movie show.

@vtbmwbiker

2 жыл бұрын

True that. I went to the USAF museum in 2019 and was amazed at how small most of the planes actually were.

3:26 My, what an unusual looking BF 109!!

In the taxiing scene, the pilots are crammed into the cockpit with their heads nearly touching the top, but switching to the combat scenes, they're quite roomy.

@russouk

4 жыл бұрын

yeah...poor continuity...mind you they had to get camerman in too...lol.....its just for good movie footage is all.

@kvarnerinfoTV

2 жыл бұрын

Nearly touching..going over the top. I watched this just to see how are they close the canopy 😂🤣

P-51 fighters in The Luftwaffe? Also at the end a fixed carriage japanese plane joining the fight? What a mess!

@jeffgreen7499

Ай бұрын

Yes, I saw the "meatballs" on its wings! Crazy guy flew all the way from Japan just to get shot down in MichIgan. 😆 (flight scenes filmed in Michigan!)

Interesante técnica de taxeo en Zig Zag. Gran video.

What is the name of the music from the beginning to 0:50?

Wow the luftwaffe was flying mustang's

@wvbygraceofgod5508

4 жыл бұрын

We gave them to Germany on lend lease, lol.

@SpeccyMan

4 жыл бұрын

No, they were flying Mustangs (without the fucking apostrophe!)

@wvbygraceofgod5508

4 жыл бұрын

Nick B, I guess your the KZread fuckin’ grammar police, and thats fuckin’ with an apostrophe.

@wvbygraceofgod5508

4 жыл бұрын

Or should I say “you’re” since your keeping tabs

@marcostadeumarcos7120

4 жыл бұрын

I asked myself the same.... how?

Interesting post war national guard buzz numbers on bottom of wing on the P-47s. Someone forgot to edit those out in post production

@bt7112

3 жыл бұрын

Good catch, my father did some of the flying for this movie, he was with the Georgia Air Guard after the war.

What happened to 3 second bursts?

The drop tanks whistled like bombs! How nice!!😈😈

@darrellcook8253

4 жыл бұрын

And they exploded into marshmallows and fuzzy puppies when they hit the ground. This is a horrible movie. So many mistakes and dumb writing.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

@@darrellcook8253 ..ehh..jury's out on that..Hollywood for you. Poor tech advisories..

@richardarcher7177

2 жыл бұрын

@@darrellcook8253 Oh yes. I've only seen it twice in my life. Once when I was ten and all I could see was real P-47's and P-51's standing in for Bf-109s. I saw it again when I was thirty four and I noticed the utterly risible story and technical mistakes - thank God for the important part - real P-47s and P-51's standing in. It's a pity they couldn't source early razorback Mustangs - but by 1948 most of those had probably gone to the scrap heap already.

The likelihood that a German fighter group would ignore bombers in favour of engaging a superior number of fighters seems improbable, but it was good to see the Thunderbolts when the P51s have grabbed the glory.

@johnjp8780

4 жыл бұрын

On at least one occasion the Luftwaffe pilots were ordered to concentrate on the fighter escort and managed to knock down a fair few of them.

@robertmartin7525

4 жыл бұрын

USA#1 !! I'm not decrying the quality of the Mustang. But the Jug was a damn good aircraft. The 56th FG that flew Thunderbolts was the US' leading aerial victory group of WW2.

At around 1:50 the P-47 just visible in the bottom of the frame has bent propeller blade tips... it must have nosed over on landing and hadn't been repaired when this scene was shot....

@jorgevega8141

2 жыл бұрын

Jajajaja qué buen ojo tienes!!! Te invito a ver él camión pegaso algibe qué ésta mal escondido detrás de un árbol en la película Patton ,con George Scott ,al principio de ésta...suerte saludos desde Chile.

All those beautiful P-47 's !!!!!!!!!!

if you look at the clip.... at the 3.20 time stamp...... im sure ....if im not mistaken .. is a groupe of P-51 Mustangs painted up as German Fighters for the Movie.. doing a peel off to dive down on the P-47's... good old hollywood movies.. lols

When you consider that "12 O'clock High", "Battleground", and "Command Decision" came out about the same time, "Fighter Squadron" is a real stinker. Just turn down the volume and enjoy those P-47s in their only starring role.

The P-47 Thunderbolt! The A-10 of its day.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly right!! My high school guidance counselor flew one in the Mighty Eight A.F....his squadron was "crashed" by one of those ME-262 Schwalbe jet fighters...cut right thru his flight. Did not engage. They could not believe what they had just witnessed. The Kraut headed for the deck. Not one of them knew why he didn't open fire..!! Swear to God, true!!##**

Loved this movie as a kid...didn't realize as a youngster they used P-51's as the German fighters!

Ahhhh, the Blohm and Voss PE-51 Hengst (Stallion) Fighter, one of the most secret WWII German aircraft. Powered by the BMW V12 copy of a Merlin/Packard engine and fueled with 110LL AvGas and Peppermint Schnapps (as an octane booster and it smelled nice for the ground crew!). I also like the P-47 base, looks like it was in California with acres of concrete, rather than southern England. They must have been big drop tanks, either that or the Germans had come a long way West during the war!!! I also thought I saw a B-36 Peacemaker taxi by at the start? I used my high school German to translate the German Pilot's RT - he said "...now we find out if a V12 is better than a twin row radial! - gulp"...

@rotorheadv8

3 жыл бұрын

All those trees, more like some where in the south east US.

@Rumblegrumbler

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

Even as a kid I wasn't excited about war flicks where the Germans spoke some odd language or with an English accent. I speak German, so I could tell. And "over and out" is simply brilliant! Nice flying scenes, but typical Hollywood hurrah-for-us style film.

This must be at least the third film that has used that tune.

That music makes me wish I was a fighter jock-bet the mechanics didnt have music like this.

@azspotfree

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, no movies about the mechanics. Of course they didn't get their asses shot off either. Unless they were also bomber crew

As Germany was running out of Messerschmitt, someone had the classic good idea to sell some mustang, under the desk...

@wbertie2604

2 жыл бұрын

They looked enough alike that Allied AAA used to shoot down P-51s from time-to-time.

@albertodonda5994

2 жыл бұрын

@@wbertie2604 sure, ...expecially the one with fixed wheel at 4:44 ! : D

Were those Germans flying the rare Messerschmitt P-51 "der Mustang" fighter?

dam! the krauts are flying mustangs!

All kidding aside, if you really want to see what it was like to be a p-47, pilot Quinton Aanenson's documentary might be on here somewhere.. it was originally on PBS

Hold this until I get back! LOL

Hmmm, last night I watched the video on how to uncrate and assemble a jug. Here's hoping tomorrow is a video on where to find one.

@hovanti

4 жыл бұрын

I keep looking at antique stores for big wooden crates...REALLY big wooden crates.

Attacked by formation of German P-51's, the P-47's managed to shoot down a A6M Zero, FW 190, ME 109, and a (Val ?) dive bomber.

@jankochanowski3252

4 жыл бұрын

and I think the last one was P47

@darrellcook8253

4 жыл бұрын

You caught that too? Markings and aircraft were in error throughout the whole movie. Even the jeeps.

@paulguzman1634

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, the fixed landing gear had the Val in the running for my first choice as well, I was thinking Stuka, but no "bent wings". The best part was all the Thunderbolts, I have always loved "the Jug" and regardless of all the different squadron markings, these were beautiful. I don't know if we would have done so well without them as they helped change the course of the air war early.

@dr.lareme7737

4 жыл бұрын

My original comment is satirical in that the movie uses real gun cam clips which doesn't match the movie story line.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! ..In that gunsight cam. footage!!,Good eyes/recall powers, man!! Dr Larame, you know your WWII planes!!

According to one P-47 ace, they didn't drop the tanks (too few) until the British developed the paper/glue drop tank. Republic insisted on the drop tank for ferrying, the USAAC-USAAF Bomber mafia was against drop tanks.

@wbertie2604

2 жыл бұрын

The paper ones were an issue if a flight was delayed due to weather conditions as the fuel could start eating away at the glue. They weren't as aerodynamically efficient as metal ones, but cheaper, and there were no useful raw materials left on the ground after dropping them.

@wbertie2604

2 жыл бұрын

They did often drop the metal ones if they needed to, though.

@Renshen1957

2 жыл бұрын

@@wbertie2604 It depended on the situation, according to the USAAF who was involved with this movie.

The music for this had been used in 3 or 4 different films.

There's a little German kid on a roof below the dogfight yelling "BF-51!!! VOLKSWAGEN OF DER SKY!"

These planes must have at least 1000 rounds per gun being able to fire so many 5 second bursts.

@vger9084

4 жыл бұрын

800 rounds per gun real plane, unlimited Hollywood reel plane.

@3:50 "No! they're drropping their Fuel Tenks!" (Yes those tenks mit Kraftstoff would indeed have come in handy for ze Mutterland)

belle ligne de P47 thunderbolt !!

In 1949 Edmond O'Brian would co-star with Cagney in "White Heat". Now there's a good movie.

"over and out"... OMG. I thought hollywood used that in movies since the 70s or so, but it already happened in 1948.

the Mustang's nickname was the "Maytag messerschmitt"

Actually, the Luftwaffe's KG200 did have a few captured P-51s for testing and tactics development

@darrellcook8253

4 жыл бұрын

None were used in combat though.

@patrickmartin2575

4 жыл бұрын

True enough. Also had various Spits, P-47s, and a P-37 if memory serves. Their B-17s and -24s WERE used though

Mustangs cabin is big as a living room!!!

The enemy are in P51's. What a hoot.

Wow, All those Thunderbolts However the ME 109s look like dressed up P 51s.

Jajaja, the Germán Mustangs!!!

Anyone spot the P-47 with the bent prop tips at 1:50?

Lo bueno de este pequeño clip sin los p-47 lucen impecables

The Messerschmidts were P 51s. Still, why aren't there more shows like this? The only ones I know are about the Tuskegee airmen. Thank goodness they put those out.

And not a drop of mud anywhere! You would have thought this ‘real’(?) combat scene was being filmed!

What is the name of the movie?

welk type duits vliegtuig is dat ?

To be fair, there weren't a whole lot of air worthy 109s left at the end of the war...

@chocolatte6157

4 жыл бұрын

True for Germany. However, other countries manufactured them under license such as Spain.

@patrickcannady2066

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocolatte6157 yes...do you think Hollywood was going to spend one cent more than necessary to collect a group of 109s when thousands of airworthy surplus 51s sat around within 250-300 miles of Los Angeles?

@patrickcannady2066

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocolatte6157 and the Spanish 109s had Merlin engines, which ruined the look of the airframe. It was built around an INVERTED V12, the Daimler DB601 and 605. Putting a conventional, upright V12 like a Merlin on it screwed up the aircraft's looks and handling. I gotta say, I hate the Nazis and their cause, but the 109F, G, and K models are some of the best-looking prop fighter aircraft ever built.

@samburkes7552

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickcannady2066 Patrick, my man, you friggin' said it!!,They were engineering geniuses...just for the wrong cause!!

@tomterific390

3 жыл бұрын

@@chocolatte6157 Umm, it was 1948, and the Spanish air force was actually using them. It wasn't as if one could just call up Franco and say, "Hey Francisco, Hollywood calling, can we borrow some of your Buchons?" But with a lot of cheap, surplus P-51s around, you could buy one for a few hundred bucks.

Damn Krautz & their Mustangs ;I

That's a P-51-09

My uncle Karl T Hallberg s 9 Airforce 366 Fg 389 Fs was used to make this movie

German P-51 Mustang, YOU GOTTA BE OUT OF YOUR MIND!!

Ain't it something how when belly tanks drop the whistle like 500 lb bombs? This movie was made at Beavis and Butthead Studios © 1995.

These were the last few Jugs flying, my little friends. Thank God for the

@markvon4650

Жыл бұрын

them.

"Let's get'em!" 🙂

My mother flew in the only German Lesbian Air Brigade (GLAB). She shoot down 24 Mustangs and 2 F-35.

*_They should have substituted in a few F4U Corsairs to play some FW-190s that'd been swell...._*

Love this movie.. but the music score is often over the top.

The Messerschmitts BF109s in this film were P51 painted green.

What happen to all those planes. I whish somehow my dad could have some how bought one . While he was still over there. Was the German pilots flying P-51? Some mix up with Lend Lease?

lol, Damn!!!!, German P-51's!!! they must have stolen the plans to make their own. I also have to marvel at how roomy the cockpits are. Like flying a Buick.

@michaellissow543

2 жыл бұрын

German P-51 stangs...Was Biden president back then???

The German aircraft were shows as P-51. In gray.

Mustangs painted to impersonate BF109's. Dig it!

The original footage is interesting - including the bent-tipped easter egg on bottom of screen at 1:50

Wow. What would these jugs be worth now. Nothing like a 2800 hp radial.

Those cockpits must be about 6 feet wide, on the inside!

Who were we fighting in 1948?