*Spoiler alert *, I've read it in a translated edition (Clube da Luta), and there's this moment in the book in which Marla puts out a cigarette on her own hand - he goes to sleep - then, he wakes up with a similar scar in his own hand. That made me realize that Marla is also himself (another doppelganger). I have to read it again in English, just to check if it is a translation mistake or something like that...

@CorbCorbin

6 жыл бұрын

tatianagfeltrin Pretty cool Graphic Novel sequel that was released pretty recently. Check it out.

@tylerh2548

6 жыл бұрын

Basically, in the original version, Marla is implied to be another personality. It was changed for the movie. Fight Club 2 is based on the story of the movie though so it's established that she indeed exists...in so much as anything is real. C.P. is a huge tease with his included "alternate ending"

@alexandrebartilotti3302

3 жыл бұрын

OMG TATY VC AQUI TBM!!!

@JeanMenezes

2 жыл бұрын

Tati! você por aqui 😀

@meesalikeu

11 ай бұрын

YAH, THE WHOLE THING IS IN HIS HEAD.

I started a fight club after seeing that movie in highschool and got the shit beat out of me and I think I fractured my skull and got a really severe concussion. That was the end of fight club.

@juxe411

3 жыл бұрын

yeah our teachers got on to our fight club each lunchtime and shut down the whole operation. We should’ve began our project mayhem

@flightofthebumblebee9529

2 жыл бұрын

Wimp

I have heard many stories like Chuck’s factory story about men getting into fights and then becoming best friends with their opponents.

@LarryLegend760

2 жыл бұрын

It’s true.

Cliff must be the only one that actually reads the articles in Playboy.

I met Chuck at a signing in my tiny local comic book store in southern California a couple years back when Fight Club 2 came out. I'd been a fan of his writing for years and when it finally came to my turn I honestly had no idea what to say to him. Still, I've never met a more friendly guy who was so willing to meet and chat with so many people who were fans of his work.

Toxic masculinity isn't the idea that perceived masculine ideals are violent, but how social and economic pressures have made men expendable and complacent, and many with repressed emotional discontent project their anxieties of their powerlessness in the Capitalist system onto individuals, the aggressive manor of how men treat other men and women. This isn't to claim men are "naturally" this way, "natural" doesn't address societal ills, it's just that this reactionary behavior is a symptom of realizing that some ideals or goals can't be accomplished under our system, but if they don't realize how to question or confront the source of the problem, they blame themselves or others for standing in there way, when in reality that doesn't work, it doesn't change their situation.

Chuck Palahniuk on Joe Rogan podcast will just blow your minds, the stories he tells, chilling.

I think for me, the best thing about your videos is that you don't only talk about the book. You relate it to your life, to life as a whole. You don't just tell us about the book, you tell us why it's important to our existence. Fight Club was a very special book for me when I read it, and I'm glad that your review does it justice.

Just finished the book last night. Thanks again for sending it and the coffee to me. Once I find myself a good grinder, I'll taste it (probably one of the cafes in town can do it for me). I apologize for the lateness of this comment. You wouldn't believe how hectic and ridiculous my life was last semester. Keep on pumping out this great content. I recommend your channel to everyone.

You just broke the first two rules of the Fight Club

It seems to me that Chuck Palahniuk is Living Proof of the idea that "Who we ARE is not the things that have happened to us in this Life - Who we ARE is _how we choose to cope with the things that have happened to us in this Life!"_

You are amazing as always. I love your way of talking. It's a difficult book to describe but you did it great. Thanks.

Must have been weird for Chuck to go to a restaurant after his success and everybody saying Sir to him and telling him what not to order. 😀😀 Great Review btw.

I'm glad you did a review on this book!!!!!

You are my FAVORITE BookTuber!

The film directed by David Fincher is probably my favourite film. I read the book few years back. It's a good read, however the film is better IMO. Definitely gonna re-read it soon. Thanks for the review Cliff! Glad to hear you talk about this novel and Palahniuk.

@juliusaugustino8409

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah and also please review Rimbaud's A Season in Hell and Illuminations! It's time. It's been a while since you reviewed the biography by Graham Robb.

@christopherpaul7588

5 жыл бұрын

Yes please!

Absolute tingling down my spine when you mentioned 'Devil all the time'....finally

Dear Cliff, Would you be interested in reviewing Saul Bellow's "The Adventures of Augie March" ? Just asking. cheers, Vignesh

I’ve been waiting for a Donald Ray Pollock review. Very excited!

Book/Coffee Giveaway 28:05

@citycrusher9308

4 жыл бұрын

Palahniak was cowardly in that interview when it came to ''toxic masc''. Also, did the ''will these young men ever grow up'' - Translation: will they get in line and build status to get the girl (the girl always ''grows up'' in peoples minds, even when she does absolutely nothing to achieve it)

@samflynn6794

3 жыл бұрын

@@citycrusher9308 I agree. I don't think he inspired the tribalism and radicalism of the right but his work did contribute much to it. Also I agree with Cliff that masculinity is not innately toxic, but like everything it can be spoiled. I wonder what Cliff's views would be now

@citycrusher9308

3 жыл бұрын

@@samflynn6794 good question

Is that Godel, Escher, Bach behind you? Great video, I was wondering when you'd get around to this one haha.

@thepatient89

6 жыл бұрын

Dan Lyndon that's a good one. Pretty dense for a pop sci/philosophy work but I'd still consider it pop

It's pretty absurd to believe that all great writers had bad relationships with their fathers.

@pauldi7268

3 жыл бұрын

The older I get and the more men I meet, the less absurd it seems.

I really recommend you to read The Kolyma Tales,by a russian Gulag author Varlam Shalamov. It's an incredible book by a man,who spent seventeen years in prison camps,working every day in cold. It is a very powerful book; it's a collection of something like thirty short stories,every single one with it's own plot,the only thing which is the same is the main theme;HELL, in which live the main characters. After Solzhenitzyn,he is the most famous Gulag writer(in my opinion, he's much better) Shalamov lived a horrible life, being poor and unhealthy, dying very slowly,but he had an enormous courage and spirit; just look at his photos and you will understand what i mean. Read it. It's one of the best books i ever read in whole my life.

@Var-gy9fn

6 жыл бұрын

Here are the links; en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varlam_Shalamov www.amazon.com/Kolyma-Tales-Classic-20th-Century-Penguin/dp/0140186956

@catacombeaperte

6 жыл бұрын

YES YES YES.

@Antastesia

6 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@PB-fi1qh

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! After going through your comment I read the book straightaway. Wow. Thank you. That was beyond powerful.

Would you ever consider doing a review of Fanged Noumena?

@aufhebenx3662

3 жыл бұрын

Or thirst for annihilation!

Can you review Tao Lin?

Loved this. I'm doing this book next on my channel- and I like how you called the angry young men "would-be soldiers" who had nothing tangible to fight for. The line about one's father being their model for God was a very strong line in the book.

Chuck Palahniuk is a fantastic interviewee. He seems very educated and he has a ton of diverse anecdotes and he weaves it all into these really interesting syntheses about human beings.

I've never read the book, but I've seen the movie. Does that count? Probably not. On a more serious note, I really like the way you plan out your videos. They're great.

Are you displaying the books you're reviewing as a homage to The Needle Drop? I know you're a fan! Great review, as always. Need to post some thoughts on your Tribe review as well.

Episode by episode your beard is becoming more and more glorious.

@BetterThanFoodBookReviews

6 жыл бұрын

My wife brushed it just before this episode.

How many chapters are there in the Fight club Book ????

Nice thumbnail gave me the laughs thank you

id loved to have seen the unmade or rumoured to have been shot but never seen film of Survivor .....That is one amazing book.

What is your favorite Palahniuk novel?

THE OTHER THING ABOUT IT IS TO USE SOMETHING TO KICKSTART YOURSELF OUT OF A RUT. YOU DONT HAVE TO GO IN A BASEMENT AND FISTFIGHT, BUT USE SOME EVENT OR CHANGE TO KNOCK YOURSELF IN THE HEAD ENOUGH TO SHAKE OUT OF IT AND TO LIVE YOUR LIFE MORE RICHLY AND FULLY. THAT IS, TAKE AN ACTIVE HAND IN RAISING YOUR LIFE AND REALLY, TRULY LIVING. THATS WHAT I GOT OUT OF FIGHT CLUB, NOT SO MUCH THE NIHILISM.

the biggest shocker of the video is that you're only 28

@dejremix

5 жыл бұрын

lol he's just 3 years older than me and he looks as old as my uncle jerry

@BezmenovWasRight

4 жыл бұрын

@@dejremix it's the facial hair

Tyler Durden is the narrator's alter ego. He was everything the narrator wanted to be. But he isn't an adult any more than he is real. He is the living embodiment of a man-child.

I remember being like 15 when i watched the movie for the first time,and wanting so baaad to start a fight club. To this day i still want too.Maybe when i lose my mind,i'll do it, we will see.;D

Teenager in the early 2000’s and yes brad Pitt walking down to the bar’s basement where a bunch of shirtless dudes beat the fuck out of each other to the tune of Tom waits was era defining

Do I spy maps of meaning on that shelf?

Do JG Ballard

@Emily-vp8dz

6 жыл бұрын

He has...

@joshuakrum181

6 жыл бұрын

Where?

@Noms_Chompsky

6 жыл бұрын

Nah bruh, re-read The Drowned World recently and Ballard was most definitely of his time y'know. Revisited him because of the relevances but Ballard just doesn't resonate like maybe he did with his peers back in the day.

@TheCheweeRevolutions

4 жыл бұрын

@@Noms_Chompsky that's just like...your opinion man

Please review Kurt Vonnegut!

You hear about this thing called fight club? Got there late last night and missed the rules but apparently it's just a bunch of guys beating the shit out of each other. Fucking unreal. Highly recommend fight club.

Palahniuk mentions a tailor in his book, “Consider This” (75-77)…could it be your friend? 😂

Sounds like a cool plot for a movie

It illustrates very well the Nietzschean concept of "bad consciousness" that is to say, that natural aggression that doesn't manage to get out and makes man "go inwards" and inflict this aggression on himself, culminating in that christian self-abnegation. Fight Club translates this same bad consciousness when people are so heated inside that just sweating is not enough.

What a surprise, "The devil all the time"!! right on man! and an advanced thanks :)

I have always avoided Palahniuk. For what reason, I do not know. This inspired me to give this a fair shake.

@MicahMicahel

3 жыл бұрын

His novels are actually a lot of fun. You can ;look at almost all of them as belonging to the humour genre.

Looking good Cliff! Enjoyed this one. "Can't be a nihilist if you have too much heart"- Clifford Lee Sargent

Thanks bo burnham

This book kind of resonated with a lot of incels for some reason, unintentionally of course

Can you write your email, im interested that coffee.

@BetterThanFoodBookReviews

6 жыл бұрын

booksarebetterthanfood@gmail.com

Oh, the big one! I‘ve only seen parts of the film, the book is on my TBR. One of my good friends, it‘s his favorite book, I will definitely link him to this review. And then read the book myself...

The author himself declared that the movie is better. Not to say the book isn't great

This book is a great portrait of American society and mentality, which is a very sad thing.

Is this a book review or just a fan boy exercise

Does this guy actually think that the phrase "toxic masculinity" is used to describe masculinty, in all its forms, as inherently toxic?

The movie was better overall but i liked the ending of the book better

Can’t recommend these books enough! getBook.at/CarreroSeries @#teamarrickcarrero Let me know what you think 😃😃

"Self-Improvement is masterbation" - Tyler Durden

A rare case where the film adaptation is superior to the novel.

@amishelmo8563

5 жыл бұрын

Their nearly identical. I prefer the ending of the book

And those bldgs crashing at the end before the real one happened...ya know....

After painfully ploughing a quarter of the book, disgusted and exhausted by the characters' nonscence and crazy ideas and self destructing life, i wanted to give up reading the book. So i look up review of Fight Club before i give it up for good, and when you give the spoiler that the narrator and Tyler are the same person, that caught me wow how's that? I had to continue to find out what happened that made you discover that? I feel that book review that refrain from going into spoilers, are not good review. Majority of spoiler avoiding book reviewers give a general book review that looks like it could be copy and paste on any books, like they just read a few pages here and there and then give their shallow review. Now i am halfway through the book, I think Chuck Palanik's idea of using violence (fights and pranks) to cure insomia, depression or the characters' sickness of living is irresponsible, antisocial and idiotic writing, just because Chuck suffered a punch and decided to use that idea for this book. There are better ways than a Fight Club to solve the characters' problems such as taking up martial arts class. I dont think Chuck Palanik's writing is any good nor anything about this Fight Club. Second, you said majority of the good writers had dad issues. Was reflection of their dad always written into their books? Or it just make them a more sensitive observant of life reflected in their writing? I hope that you would read my comment and give me a reply. Thanks! And oh! I appreciate you researching the writer's life, it gives us an idea how this book forms. This really helps because this book is so out of the norm like it is all coming out of a crazy person's head. You gave a lot more work into a book review than majority of book reviewers out there. However after this book it is unlikely i will read anymore of Chuck Palanik's books.

@GuacamoleyNacho

24 күн бұрын

Fight Club is a very sickening and dark book. Their self destruction is so violent and stupid, their thoughts are so dark and disturbing, it is so hard to push through the reading. i dont understand why nobody says the self beat up and gory messes up their head? Why are people trying to act cool by saying Fight Club is a cool/genius/etc (majority only had watched the movie but not read the book). it is not cool. it is stupid as hell. i feel like i am wasting my time trying to run through the book as fast as possible to save my sanity. i suspect the writer Chuck Palahniuk may have a mental illness to have conjured so much violence, bloody mess, self destruction and such sad lives. Only a person with a very dark mind can think of such and to write a bloody book of it! i would not suggest this book/movie for anyone with depression. Too much insanity and bloody gory in destroying their stupid sad lives, nonstop like a vertigo to make me want to vomit! To the book reviewers and people who watched the movie and say Fight Club is cool, i suspect they are the type that got bullied often and imagined themselves fighting someone. LOL!😂

@GuacamoleyNacho

24 күн бұрын

i just saw Chuck Palahniuk's interview, in which he said he enjoyed his past work cleaning up the warm human parts after surgical operation and plus he is very gay, now explained very well his books are sicko and kind of erotic!

@GuacamoleyNacho

9 күн бұрын

finally i discover the astonishing startled flip-u-on-the-face part, the part where Chuck Palahniuk wants to throw an unexpected turn of his comic-like novel that the narrator and Tyler Durban is 2 person in 1! That is in page 158, the book ends at page 218 so after reading to three quarter of this book, then tge writer Chuck did this kick the reader's ass (yup following his style of language!) I think Fight Club is too boring, hence Chuck needs to inject this what-the-heck surprise. *roll my eyes* 🙄

I think you're blinded by the love of the writer. This wasn't as good as the others, man. You just concluded that the man wasn'ta nihilist because he had too much of a heart.

Well there are optimistic and pessimistic nihilists. So you are the optimistic kind

There’s nothing intrinsically violent (much less terroristic) about fascism. This connection has been incepted into your brain. If you’d like to know what fascism actually is, there are sources. Gentile, for example: the “founder” of fascist philosophy. Read Gentile. Forget the infinite associations that have been worked into a large portion of the entertainment you’ve consumed.

The movie's better.

Welcome to Inadequate Male cental. Bow to your bearded leader

I have a hot take: I fucking hate Fight Club. I never liked the movie, always thought it was probably the most overrated film of my lifetime, easily. I figured I would enjoy the book when I read it over a decade ago but it gave me the exact same hollow, kind of pseudo philosophical rambling shit that I just wasn’t into. I do appreciate Palahniuk as an author and think he’s great but this is one of the few where I majorly disagree with the general opinion. With that said, listening to you talk about it makes me want to revisit it and see if I still feel that way. I’m very open to my mind being changed and you have definitely persuaded me to at least check it out again.

@justmeeagainn

2 жыл бұрын

You must be a real pussy.

Disagree with your assessment of a nihilist. They're typically the most empathetic people who want more than anything to make this hellish world a more tolerable place, given its pointless nature. I view life and humanity as destructive and dwarves the role of nature, still find time to be kind to folk. Just IMO.

@TheSouthHoosier

4 жыл бұрын

@Leewilldofine I'm fairly certain I know who I am.

@TheSouthHoosier

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Durden was a nihilist. Why would he want to erase the debt record and set people free if he didn't care about people? Why would he force a guy to admit his dream of being a veterinarian at the risk of losing his life if he didn't want to do something great for him? Nihilists are exactly what I said they are. *Prove me wrong...

Silly, macho posturing.

I hate this book like poison

@jacksonkempen236

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I despise the writing style, I don't understand the appeal. Is their something I am missing? Please, I would like to understand.

O', weird...he's raphosodizing about the 90's that he never lived through. And the Cacophony society is derived from Jack London, Better than Food literature guy, who was prob destroyed for his anarchistic/radical labor leanings.