I don't know why my intro was muted by my editing software, I apologize, but no important info was lost.
@Tenoko321
Жыл бұрын
Think it turned out better without the intro
@ceoofjeanneism6777
Жыл бұрын
What plushie said in the Intro: "I LOVE SWORDS"
@MWERAL
Жыл бұрын
Think it might have actually worked more towards setting a mood for this video so it's all good
@chibizilla5118
Жыл бұрын
Weird as it may have been, it seems strangely fitting with the music and who you were talking about
@johnwong1194
Жыл бұрын
Curious, what is your Gogh's NP level?
@creeperbros-dg9jr Жыл бұрын
To summarize. Van Gogh is a very self sustainable servant that functions both as a powerful buffer and a solo/independent servant
@PunkIsNotDead Жыл бұрын
People really underestimate Gogh. She is the crit queen no matter what color card she gets. She's my main servant on JP and I'm ready to roll for her on NA too.
@chthollynotaseniorious8142
Жыл бұрын
She maybe cursed servant but still it can help u with your gameplays
@justaguy3983
Жыл бұрын
Gl with your pulls on NA.
@nanamichiaki2657
Жыл бұрын
I agree, it is satisfying to see her crit hit the enemy with so much damage especially against the boss with three chain plus extra attack
@yopoxikeweapescai9066
Жыл бұрын
True, the funny thing is that i didnt want to roll for her cause im saving for muramasa and percival but i just get in love with the way she is and ended up rolling a lot for her. Got her by god blessing and found out she is broken af and really fun to play with. Would totaly grail her to 100 if i didnt have to save them for percival
@scyllaazcatl6565
10 ай бұрын
Kinda late to the party (I just got van gogh in the interlude banner) so I'm really not sure what CE would work best for her to use as a dps
@ninjakidkat12 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the people who believe the first two misconceptions have never seen a Van Gogh solo vid before
@abelerculano7565
Жыл бұрын
I actually hadn’t before seeing this lmao.
@enzoongweekiat1711
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Van Gogh was to be one of the most fun solo characters
@marupurusaivamsi4802 Жыл бұрын
She's not quick she's crit baby 🤣
@marupurusaivamsi4802
Жыл бұрын
@Tami Nolan I'm not rolling for her. I'm waiting for taira. Ushi fans 🤣
@@marupurusaivamsi4802 I'm an Ushi fan waiting for Taira but I'm also rolling for her lol! Keeping around 500 SQ for Taira should be enough... right?
@marupurusaivamsi4802
Жыл бұрын
@@betulla96 bro how the hell I know 🤣. My luck is already shit in gacha. If ur lucky u can even get her in first single roll 🤣👍
@notme8652 Жыл бұрын
Saying you need skadi for van gogh is like saying you need Koyanskaya for Super Orion
@rellsyk6358 Жыл бұрын
By far one of the most complete and powerful servants in FGO, also so underrated due her mechanics that most people say "complicated" Real life Gogh was misunderstood when he was alive, and i can see that FGO Gogh is suffering the same fate, kind of curious. Good luck to everyone🌻✨
@kamenraider1175
Жыл бұрын
Honestly her kit is one of the simplest in the game, pop all her skills at the same time (2,3,1) pop her np and crit
@jq8164
Жыл бұрын
@@kamenraider1175 True, once you actually read her skillset it's not that hard.
@makotomachiyuki
Жыл бұрын
everything is simple if you can read
@thighgraine
Жыл бұрын
It's like Yu-Gi-Oh. Overcomplicated words, simple use
@sshiroyakuza Жыл бұрын
As a massive Van Gogh user, she’s better off being the DPS rather than supporting any other foreigner. Pairing two Van Goghs with Douman essentially means you win any CQ that isn’t immune to debuffs, even on neutral. The fear stacks on that comp is insane and you can stall until Van Gogh’s guts skill returns while constantly spamming NP.
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
So I shouldn’t get her for my Voyager? Is there anything I can use for Voyager other than skadi? I’m using Merlín and Waver with him at the moment.
@sshiroyakuza
Жыл бұрын
@@lilpainteroftales4386 eh i mean, if you pull Van Gogh you’re better off using him as the DPS since imo Voyager isn’t good to begin with but Van Gogh would definitely strengthen and support your Voyager. Voyager would probably be outshined by Van Gogh even if Van Gogh is supporting him though.
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
@@sshiroyakuza Oh, okay. I’ll keep that in mind. Thank you.👍
@brunoslybruno
Жыл бұрын
@@lilpainteroftales4386 frankly, i'd say voyager works pretty well with gogh (double or otherwise), his crits will hit hard, you'll get an offensive np and he has his own evade at worst - plus the fact that if you double van + voyager, all 3 units have very high card damage, you dont have to worry about getting support cards when trying to do damage, because all units are highly damaging anyone with the outer passive works very well with gogh - even if you put in a blank servant with no skills it'd still work well one of my fav voyager comps would be with miyu tho, quite a few people did it and its pretty fun
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
@@brunoslybruno Thank you. I’m trying to pull for Van Gogh, but its good to know that there is another comp option available. I have a np 3 Voyager which is why I’m trying so hard to use him (I don’t want to have all that sq go to waste). I think i can still use voyager for a bit more as he is helping me through Babylonia. I don’t really care if he becomes overshadowed by Van Gogh just as long as he is on the team.
@noelrodriguez9091 Жыл бұрын
Van Gogh is probably the only "quick" support I have on my jp account
@okitasoujialter Жыл бұрын
Van Gogh reminds me of Super Orion in that it's possible to pair her with supports for more damage, but in a lot of cases it's actually better to solo with her so that you get her quick cards every turn to rack up those attack up buffs from her third skill.
@yolkkyz Жыл бұрын
Besides min turning CQ I always found myself using Van Gogh over the meta supports like Koyan,Skadi sometimes even Tamamo and Lady Avalon (when paired with Castoria) I love the fact that her burst uptime is so easy to maintain the stars per turn,stars absorb and aoe terror are just amazing imo. Top 10 best ssr for sure a lot of people knows she's good but I feel like not lot of people talked about her
@Dtoszi Жыл бұрын
😐 “I won’t roll Gogh because I don’t have Skadi” I feel called out as I said this exactly lmao
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Down worry, these are all points ive seen brought up at least 10 times in different forums i frequent so you are not alone, its a common misconception as she has a full quick deck.
@Dtoszi
Жыл бұрын
@@PlushieMistress i’m actually kinda happy to see this video since I wanted to roll for them regardless so now I don’t feel so bad about it!
@AhmedX810 ай бұрын
Van Gogh is a monster that works with anyone. Summer BB to lock in three turns of Gogh goodness, Castoria for NP gain and hard invul, Mash for defense. She's brilliant against neutral enemies and insane against Berserkers. She doesn't need Skadi. Gogh can gogh on her own!
@kaihimura3897 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video. I saw some solo videos of her but, due to my genuine disinterest in the character, didn't really understand her wider application. I started playing around April this year and have been diligently saving for next year's banners. Hopefully once I get the Servant that got me to play the game, I ca start saving for units like this. Fingers crossed for The First Hassan in the future.
@MaouNobunaga Жыл бұрын
4th Common Misconceptions: Van Gogh is an old bearded man. 🤔
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
well...no, since this Van Gogh is not actual Van Gogh, but a Clytie - a Greek mythological figure who was turned into a sunflower.
@aarongeorge4885 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I took a look at her kit and realized she can fit anywhere. She is basically Super Orion with a twist in my opinion.
@dreamstrider7800 Жыл бұрын
Besides my gripes about losing out on the actual Van Gogh, i will definitely be rolling for her. Hard not to when quick is my favorite type, crits are life, and she has a craziness i can get behind.
@muchluck7981
Жыл бұрын
I mean we may still get the actual van gogh someday. This van gogh is kinda psycho lol
@Kub1na32 Жыл бұрын
Some people don't roll for her because of these misconceptions. I don't roll for her because Daddy Douman is just around the corner We are not the same.
@manwithabasicprofilepic
Жыл бұрын
You’re right, I roll for Van Gogh and Mister Tongue.
@higonakamura1236
Жыл бұрын
Same. But for me is Muramasa.
@jovan9109
Жыл бұрын
Me who's praying to get them both with my only 200 sq : 👁👄👁
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
@@jovan9109 same
@aikakiryuu9454
Жыл бұрын
Same I'm saving for KoyanLight
@mrhbombman Жыл бұрын
Honestly you make a good arguement for Van Gogh. Though I'm still going for Nemo but I'll defitely consider her if I happen to have spare SQ then, for future Lucky Bags, or when interlude 17 campaign comes around.
@ShiguReii Жыл бұрын
If they say she's bad, then they don't know how to use her.
@EmporerEmblem Жыл бұрын
As someone who lacks a Skadi, my Gogh on jp has never had any issue dominating many, many fights, nor has she ever really been a bad option as a crit support since crit up, atk up, another atk up with star gather rate for 3 turns, stars/turn, quick res down, and def down are all pretty useful, not to mention a party wide 1 hit evade is a nice tool for challenging content most of the time. Van Gogh is just a good in general
@SingerOfW Жыл бұрын
Not rolling for Gogh because you don't have Skadi is like not rolling for Chad Orion because you don't have Merlin. They don't need it, don't you worry.
@theemperorofthecrimeworld7381 Жыл бұрын
The only reason I'm not rolling for Gogh is the fact I've choose to save all sq for muramasa. It's clear by her kit she likes to crit alot so by putting her with people who can either gen even more stars or by someone who needs a shit tone of stars. Like you could many have Heracles in there simply for raw damage kek
@Starsoulklr Жыл бұрын
I have to admit I haven't looked much into how she worked I understood the basics but the more I've been using her the more I like how she plays. Really unique playstyle. Yeah it's easy for people to just make basic assumptions about a Servant just by glancing at their kits.
@6452P Жыл бұрын
When the servant is so busted that the best support is herself.
@perseusfateprototype Жыл бұрын
van gogh carried me through JP and honestly like all you need for support most of the time is literally just another Van Gogh, shes one of the least demanding unit to use imo since you really dont need to have any specific unit yourself, just your own gogh and a support gogh is enough for most battles in the game
@Nyaarlathotep
Жыл бұрын
Gonna NP5 2k 120 her anyways knowing she’s top5 servants in the game at NP1 🛐
@perseusfateprototype
Жыл бұрын
@@Nyaarlathotep preach
@jovan9109 Жыл бұрын
I just started playing on JP recently and borrowed someone's Van gogh. She has been carrying me to lostbelt 2, and my only support is waver from the free ssr ticket. Gonna roll for her on NA fosho Edit: I got her both on my JP and NA now. I'm so happy 🥳
@kevinbarber2795 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you.
@belleboni2016 Жыл бұрын
I been enlightened by her when I start playing JP. I always paired her with Sen no Rikyu and Douman when I'm having trouble. You must really used her to know how effective and devastating she is.
@eblis9037 Жыл бұрын
A team comp I'm really having unexpected fun with is Gogh + Himiko. Himiko gives an incredible star regen to compliment Goghie's NP one, overcharges her NP (which is good, since you're already stacking a lot of crit dmg by spamming it and buffing the atk more gives bigger returns anyway afaik) and thank to Goghie's role being interchangable between main and sub dps/support, you can switch between one and the other being the dpt based on current skill cooldown. And they should technically not vibe at all together card-wise. Just goes to show how versatile and malleable our little flower truly is. You can do so many cool things with her it's not even funny.
@123armyoftwo Жыл бұрын
From my understanding she's a Quick Super Orion so like him she doesn't need Skadi but support that buff crit dmg helps
@zanwrightmfwr756 Жыл бұрын
Hey, if I can make my Zerkerlot semi loop without skadi, then I can make Gogh work without skadi.
@cyrax9645 Жыл бұрын
28 seconds of silence and then he starts talking. I got scared shitless cause I was checking my audio to see if it's my end and when he spoke up it was loud as hell
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
I apologize my phone editing software screwed up during export
@hikun2837 Жыл бұрын
Van Gogh : who need skadi? I choose Doman ! Rise chaotic•evil gank
@CaptainOverkill Жыл бұрын
Surprised to see how few people know how to use Van Gogh. I've always used a double van Gogh x Summer BB team comp to crush bosses/CQs and steamroll level 90+ quests.
@frost-uk6fv Жыл бұрын
Going for NP 5 Van Gogh when she comes out. Van Gogh is best girl after all.
@darkraimac Жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of how when Van Gogh first came out there were some JP KZreadrs saying Van Gogh was very situational or compex
@Operation-Overlord10 ай бұрын
so the question now is if you have a Van Gogh, do you roll for Douman or Jacques as the 3rd member of the party?
@Tfbrave Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised people consider her bad, Last time I checked she was to quick what super Orion is for buster?????
@phuquynguyen2461 Жыл бұрын
U can also use double van gogh with Helena for more stars per turn, buster art quick buff multipliers, and 20% np up for all. Since she's a 4 stars and not story locked, you can get her quite easily
@nechocat1234
Жыл бұрын
or hans
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, that's interesting. Just got spooked by Helena yesterday while rolling for yu-yu
@TheBPP24 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is I don't remember ever watching any video where they even use Skadi to assist her.
@fahamali2690 Жыл бұрын
Want to run her with Yang, risk rolling or save for Muramasa?
@mgdon892510 ай бұрын
I see that make sense I usually though every quick servants needed skadi always.
@prototypechile Жыл бұрын
Are you going to make a review for van gogh? or do you not plan to make any more guides
@Q9Teen Жыл бұрын
thank you for your deep analysis! now i'm gonna roll a bit, wish me luck!! 120 SQ in and i got fionn...
@spencerblais2539 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of untapped territory people have with Van Gogh, outside of people using her as a soloist Quick Chadrion or makeshift "Quick" support. While I would throw a bit towards Van Gogh's way, I am sadly strapped for Quartz between the last couple of banners and I need to save Percy, Oberon, Magician Charlotte and throw whatever leftovers I got at Izumo. Still, I appreciate you clearing up these misconceptions.
@ScySol Жыл бұрын
Does Van Gogh double douman teams work with her?
@corie8396 Жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion on np levels on Van Gogh? I know they’re obviously not necessary as it’s a non damage NP, but how good is np2+? I love her and want to get multiple copies but I kinda want to hear other opinions lol
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the scaling for crit up aint bad for this one, I personally only have np1 and if you are more focused on buffing specifically foreigners its kind of unnoticeable. However if you like using her on other servants or just enjoy soloing with her in general NP2 can’t hurt. Its really more dependent on your budget and your future roll plans more than anything.
@sshiroyakuza
Жыл бұрын
As an NP2 owner, the 25% CD makes a difference. It’s certainly worth going for NP2 but if you’re saving for other servants, NP1 is enough. Van Gogh will easily clear any future CQ that isn’t debuff immune even at NP1.
@elfword733 Жыл бұрын
Van Gogh or Super Orion or Muramasa? Having hard time picking on which one of them to roll. I have yet to fill Foreigner, Saber and Archer slots with 5 Stars.
@K0DA._.
Жыл бұрын
Muramasa does have pretty good crits, but the other two have better crits. The main difference, then, is that Muramasa is a really good AOE looping unit, too. Do you need a looper, or would you rather have people really good for boss fights? If you did want a looper, you also have the option of Space Ishtar, who I believe comes early January.
@DDespicable Жыл бұрын
I have not even bothered to put them into a team once. Have not found a single need to. Maybe once the events over?
@hussainabbas1475 Жыл бұрын
if i could only roll one , van gogh or douman ?
@Figamorf Жыл бұрын
But what are you doing with bang and Go? what is the gameplay? (Im asking seriously)
@barteklis6193 Жыл бұрын
Hey I'm a new player to fate go started early october and I just finished babilonya. I have gilgamesh as my only 5 star with heracles berserk. I was thinking of summoning for van goh and douman. It is a good idea? Or should I just wait for some kind of better servants that i should save up for that i don't know of?
@U1and0nly
Жыл бұрын
Since there are no upcoming banners that really goes well with buster servants (iirc), having van gogh would be a really good starter. Especially in Epic of Remnant and Cosmos in the Lostbelt where there are a lot of break bars and forced supports.
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
roll for them and then start saving for Koyanskaya and Oberon.
@nknown3982
Жыл бұрын
You can pull for douman, probably skip Gogh and save for castoria Oberon and koyanskya as those are the best servants in the game Edit: you don't really need Gogh for story reasons since you can just use support castoria/merlin to carry you through story and you should bond 10 heracles so he can truly unleash his potential
@nghivmai Жыл бұрын
I only played JP for like half a year but Double Gogh team carried my whole ass through 90% of difficult content. They crit every enemy into oblivion. I only have 120 quartz on NA currently, pls pray for me to get her.
@DYhalto250 Жыл бұрын
so... your telling me run her with summer bb to lock in those cards for big girl crits
@LeiCal69 Жыл бұрын
Some people think that you should just uninstall if you don't have Skadi, so I just follow my heart and neuron activation when it comes to rolling, then I built a team around it, don't care if it's tier A or C.
@sorashizen5130 Жыл бұрын
So to be short, she is overpowered only when you know how to use her, where to use her or when to use her
@EyhzOfficial Жыл бұрын
maybe a really stupid question, but can she make a wave 1 np, wave 2 and 3 crit farming team with hokusai? assume she is max grailed, foud, append and np 5. i know its not the most usefull farming method but it seems fun to do. atleast seems good for CQ
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
Plushie did exactly that but with Jacques instead of Hokusai. At wave 1 the three of them NP'd and then they crit on wave 2 and 3
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, the video is titled "The future of farming in FGO"
@maracabo1176 Жыл бұрын
Something weird i saw some people that van gogh either mainly work as a support or is only a support. Wich is so stupid because there is a reason people call her Quick Super Orion
@ShadowD.Joestar Жыл бұрын
Hmm... Would Van Gogh work with OG Abigail?
@Nyaxurex Жыл бұрын
Oh yah, I used to have her on an old account before even I knew how to play the game, I didn’t know how buffs worked or anything I never used proper characters and she carried me to Camelot basically by herself.
@proOutlander Жыл бұрын
So what are some good servants to add to Van Gogh (besides another Van Gogh)?
@PossessedbyPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Other Outer Domain units
@kapresmoke5869 Жыл бұрын
If Van Gogh can support any of the Abigails, then I am for sure rolling for her. VG-Summer Abby-Douman would be a pretty interesting comp to work with too.
@lanspecter493
Жыл бұрын
Yo imagine sleeping in terror 👍
@nornng7082
Жыл бұрын
didn't abi can take the second crit+ buff from van gogh np? van gogh is true foreigner sup isn't she?
@kapresmoke5869
Жыл бұрын
@@nornng7082 Abby does get the bonus Existence Beyond the Domain buff yeah. VG is stupendously good in being DPS (solo or team), crit support general and foreigner. Very well designed in gameplay, top tier. Hopefully Lavinia down the line could also help being a foreigner support
@allenlin1590 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I can wedge summer Abigail into Van Gogh team for viable buster crit meme.
@sanddristini6555 Жыл бұрын
Haohao did not come home, so after farming I will now roll for the gogh
@michaelloyola4082 Жыл бұрын
double van gogh + atlas MC, at turn 5, one Gogh will have atleast 150% NP charge. And on the 7th turn, the other will have atleast 180%. But enough of that, i just want my Clytie Van Gogh and i got NP2, i'm fine skipping every banner until the 6th anniv.
@DioDinero Жыл бұрын
Double Gohg Jalter is something I really want to try.
@MyLoneTravel Жыл бұрын
Another misconception about Van Gogh is no, she is not one of the moths in doujins at nhentai
@einzweichschein Жыл бұрын
I'm not planning to roll for Van Gogh because Himiko drained almost all my SQs stacks. Eventhough I indeed saved for her, I didn't expect her to need that many-----
@ChaldeaDropOuts Жыл бұрын
you rotated his and she im confused
@azuritecat597 Жыл бұрын
I won't roll Van Gogh because she doesn't want to come home...help
@goldeyeblue10 ай бұрын
Honestly my go to 90+ Team before Koyanskaya and a Team I love running even today with her, is my Level 120 Summer Abby, Himiko, Van Gogh, or Abby, Gogh, Gogh/Douman!
@Tammysupreme30 Жыл бұрын
Wrong, she is beast++ WITH skadi and already beast without skadi.
@ared4824 Жыл бұрын
Is she on rate up on jp?
@mrsheldon9134 Жыл бұрын
Double Van Gogh is absolutely ridiculous in terms of crit damage. She’s the only reason why I’m even able to beat event CQs. I’ve heard the later Lostbelts are thick with high HP berserkers, so having a Gogh will make your life much easier while going through them.
@WantoTerceiro Жыл бұрын
My NA party is focused on Arts, but I'm going to roll for Van Gogh just because I like her
@wardhuysmans5978 Жыл бұрын
I am mostly rolling for her because I want any supports I can get for Molay
@rejoicingfakepriest201 Жыл бұрын
What a temptation, but I'll keep saving for Ibuki-neesan.
@naiRISE766
Жыл бұрын
nice
@purplle_purpurina Жыл бұрын
does double vangogh works with voyager ?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@rcqr4148 Жыл бұрын
my dumbass over here using van gogh with a waver and CASTORIA for i have no other supports and she can still hit crits up to 200k plus
@torappuda Жыл бұрын
You also don't need to roll np2 if you're just using her for foreigner crits. Np2 will give foreigners +175% crit damage which is added to the base crit damage of 200% for a total of 375% total damage. Np1 is 350% which is only ~7% lower.
@muchluck7981
Жыл бұрын
So Np2 is only for non foreigner critting? Hmmm
@luvslotsastuff Жыл бұрын
I got Van Gogh by accident during Imaginary Scramble on JP (I was rolling for one of the CEs) but man I'm glad I got her. She's become my go-to for challenge quests.
@ZetsubouGintama Жыл бұрын
She is crit generator with 50-100 np charge.
@simpledeukae5613 Жыл бұрын
for new accounts Hans + whale Van Gogh will clear almost all fights lol
@Alexzander1989 Жыл бұрын
I’m only rolling for Summer Mama Raikou in this event, I don’t wanna try and deal with her kit. Good luck to anyone who’s gonna be rolling for her though
@r.o.brobot3296 Жыл бұрын
i sure do wish taira wasn't in a few months or so feels bad, having to pick one
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
same. rolling for Gogh and Douman with my f2p savings and then I have to start saving for Koyan and Sussy Mothman, I'll have to skip Taira :(
@Nicky-zz8np Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to roll for her. I really wanted a quick support for my roster.
@temyar55 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m gonna be that weirdo that uses double VG and Okki. Why? Dunno. Just feel like it may work out.
@genesicsavior9381 Жыл бұрын
4th most common misconception: Van Gogh is coming home in these five tickets.
@alexandreluna2276 Жыл бұрын
But why don't I see Van Gogh get used against Cernunnos?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Because cernunnos has his own drain mechanic + curse and van gogh really cant handle the passive damage on top of her own gimmick
@alexandreluna2276
Жыл бұрын
@@PlushieMistress Makes sense, especially when I saw the 4T strats gave me PTSD and the bastard ain't even on NA yet.
@DevoteeofMamaRaikou Жыл бұрын
I can't think on any instance Van Gogh would be bad... except the Cernunnos battle, I think?
@K0DA._.
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t she just put a bunch of the 2* CCs that remove DOTs on her cards, then remove a whole 6 curse stacks in one turn with a Quick chain? Not to mention that she has a class advantage as a foreigner.
@clyvetruises9587 Жыл бұрын
Van Gogh is one of the most self sustainable DPSs if not the best, on top of having great team utility. I don't know why they released her because she's BROKEN
@darkraimac Жыл бұрын
Originally rolled her for her looks. Stayed for how good she is
@mimito6037 Жыл бұрын
Should I compromise my Senji Muramasa for van gogh though...
@TPkarov Жыл бұрын
Van gogh is a support or DPS ?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Both
@stalesock4 Жыл бұрын
Can’t misunderstand her if I don’t even read her skills 😅
@TheIncarnus Жыл бұрын
People to this day still have a hard time seeing her value. Eventually, it will click when they realize how good Van Gogh is.
@no.notfromRDR Жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering if i should pull for her or not. In terms of SQ i have a lot (300sq plus 150 worth of frags) but my account is already broken with servants like Chad Orion and castoria to the point where I easily do any challenge quest with little to no effort
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Tbh for endgame accounts like that its very hard to justify rolling anything for pure utility, it really depends on your preference in the end
@dudsummon3803
Жыл бұрын
Yep have super orion and himiko , merlin castoria. So rolling on yang because I like her art and np.
@MaouNobunaga
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, she's just far easier to use than Super Orion whom you have to setup for by aligning those Buster cards. Van Gogh gets her Crit Dmg on every card. Double Super Orion is not a good way to get him going while Double Van Gogh just works so well. On top of that she has good support capabilities. If you're going to use Maou like me, then you'd get everything you can to further increase the repertoire of Maou Nobu supports. 😎 btw. Van Gogh Solo is bonkers too
@nknown3982
Жыл бұрын
For endgame players i personally would never recommend servants like Gogh or himiko since you can already clear the CQs with double castoria/merlin setups, much better to roll for QoL servants like Oberon, koyanskya perhaps morgan
@nknown3982
Жыл бұрын
@@MaouNobunaga i mean, you don't usually see people using orion unless you want that solo clear which at that point is purely done for fun
@lemonlime8635 Жыл бұрын
I got her with a ticket when i was taking a shit so here i am
@bleach4k239 Жыл бұрын
The best support for Van Gogh is not another Van Gogh but 2 Doumans.
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I don't know why my intro was muted by my editing software, I apologize, but no important info was lost.
@Tenoko321
Жыл бұрын
Think it turned out better without the intro
@ceoofjeanneism6777
Жыл бұрын
What plushie said in the Intro: "I LOVE SWORDS"
@MWERAL
Жыл бұрын
Think it might have actually worked more towards setting a mood for this video so it's all good
@chibizilla5118
Жыл бұрын
Weird as it may have been, it seems strangely fitting with the music and who you were talking about
@johnwong1194
Жыл бұрын
Curious, what is your Gogh's NP level?
To summarize. Van Gogh is a very self sustainable servant that functions both as a powerful buffer and a solo/independent servant
People really underestimate Gogh. She is the crit queen no matter what color card she gets. She's my main servant on JP and I'm ready to roll for her on NA too.
@chthollynotaseniorious8142
Жыл бұрын
She maybe cursed servant but still it can help u with your gameplays
@justaguy3983
Жыл бұрын
Gl with your pulls on NA.
@nanamichiaki2657
Жыл бұрын
I agree, it is satisfying to see her crit hit the enemy with so much damage especially against the boss with three chain plus extra attack
@yopoxikeweapescai9066
Жыл бұрын
True, the funny thing is that i didnt want to roll for her cause im saving for muramasa and percival but i just get in love with the way she is and ended up rolling a lot for her. Got her by god blessing and found out she is broken af and really fun to play with. Would totaly grail her to 100 if i didnt have to save them for percival
@scyllaazcatl6565
10 ай бұрын
Kinda late to the party (I just got van gogh in the interlude banner) so I'm really not sure what CE would work best for her to use as a dps
I feel like the people who believe the first two misconceptions have never seen a Van Gogh solo vid before
@abelerculano7565
Жыл бұрын
I actually hadn’t before seeing this lmao.
@enzoongweekiat1711
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Van Gogh was to be one of the most fun solo characters
She's not quick she's crit baby 🤣
@marupurusaivamsi4802
Жыл бұрын
@Tami Nolan I'm not rolling for her. I'm waiting for taira. Ushi fans 🤣
@havochailey422
Жыл бұрын
なんか動物に好かれるさとみくんな感じでほのぼのする(◜ᴗ◝ ) youtubemn.com/watch?v=BbJ2UVuqhmL 何が起こるかわからない系統のゲームをするさとみくんめちゃくちゃ好きです😂✨✨
@kun2588
Жыл бұрын
@@marupurusaivamsi4802 Bro, that's a bot.
@betulla96
Жыл бұрын
@@marupurusaivamsi4802 I'm an Ushi fan waiting for Taira but I'm also rolling for her lol! Keeping around 500 SQ for Taira should be enough... right?
@marupurusaivamsi4802
Жыл бұрын
@@betulla96 bro how the hell I know 🤣. My luck is already shit in gacha. If ur lucky u can even get her in first single roll 🤣👍
Saying you need skadi for van gogh is like saying you need Koyanskaya for Super Orion
By far one of the most complete and powerful servants in FGO, also so underrated due her mechanics that most people say "complicated" Real life Gogh was misunderstood when he was alive, and i can see that FGO Gogh is suffering the same fate, kind of curious. Good luck to everyone🌻✨
@kamenraider1175
Жыл бұрын
Honestly her kit is one of the simplest in the game, pop all her skills at the same time (2,3,1) pop her np and crit
@jq8164
Жыл бұрын
@@kamenraider1175 True, once you actually read her skillset it's not that hard.
@makotomachiyuki
Жыл бұрын
everything is simple if you can read
@thighgraine
Жыл бұрын
It's like Yu-Gi-Oh. Overcomplicated words, simple use
As a massive Van Gogh user, she’s better off being the DPS rather than supporting any other foreigner. Pairing two Van Goghs with Douman essentially means you win any CQ that isn’t immune to debuffs, even on neutral. The fear stacks on that comp is insane and you can stall until Van Gogh’s guts skill returns while constantly spamming NP.
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
So I shouldn’t get her for my Voyager? Is there anything I can use for Voyager other than skadi? I’m using Merlín and Waver with him at the moment.
@sshiroyakuza
Жыл бұрын
@@lilpainteroftales4386 eh i mean, if you pull Van Gogh you’re better off using him as the DPS since imo Voyager isn’t good to begin with but Van Gogh would definitely strengthen and support your Voyager. Voyager would probably be outshined by Van Gogh even if Van Gogh is supporting him though.
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
@@sshiroyakuza Oh, okay. I’ll keep that in mind. Thank you.👍
@brunoslybruno
Жыл бұрын
@@lilpainteroftales4386 frankly, i'd say voyager works pretty well with gogh (double or otherwise), his crits will hit hard, you'll get an offensive np and he has his own evade at worst - plus the fact that if you double van + voyager, all 3 units have very high card damage, you dont have to worry about getting support cards when trying to do damage, because all units are highly damaging anyone with the outer passive works very well with gogh - even if you put in a blank servant with no skills it'd still work well one of my fav voyager comps would be with miyu tho, quite a few people did it and its pretty fun
@lilpainteroftales4386
Жыл бұрын
@@brunoslybruno Thank you. I’m trying to pull for Van Gogh, but its good to know that there is another comp option available. I have a np 3 Voyager which is why I’m trying so hard to use him (I don’t want to have all that sq go to waste). I think i can still use voyager for a bit more as he is helping me through Babylonia. I don’t really care if he becomes overshadowed by Van Gogh just as long as he is on the team.
Van Gogh is probably the only "quick" support I have on my jp account
Van Gogh reminds me of Super Orion in that it's possible to pair her with supports for more damage, but in a lot of cases it's actually better to solo with her so that you get her quick cards every turn to rack up those attack up buffs from her third skill.
Besides min turning CQ I always found myself using Van Gogh over the meta supports like Koyan,Skadi sometimes even Tamamo and Lady Avalon (when paired with Castoria) I love the fact that her burst uptime is so easy to maintain the stars per turn,stars absorb and aoe terror are just amazing imo. Top 10 best ssr for sure a lot of people knows she's good but I feel like not lot of people talked about her
😐 “I won’t roll Gogh because I don’t have Skadi” I feel called out as I said this exactly lmao
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Down worry, these are all points ive seen brought up at least 10 times in different forums i frequent so you are not alone, its a common misconception as she has a full quick deck.
@Dtoszi
Жыл бұрын
@@PlushieMistress i’m actually kinda happy to see this video since I wanted to roll for them regardless so now I don’t feel so bad about it!
Van Gogh is a monster that works with anyone. Summer BB to lock in three turns of Gogh goodness, Castoria for NP gain and hard invul, Mash for defense. She's brilliant against neutral enemies and insane against Berserkers. She doesn't need Skadi. Gogh can gogh on her own!
I appreciate this video. I saw some solo videos of her but, due to my genuine disinterest in the character, didn't really understand her wider application. I started playing around April this year and have been diligently saving for next year's banners. Hopefully once I get the Servant that got me to play the game, I ca start saving for units like this. Fingers crossed for The First Hassan in the future.
4th Common Misconceptions: Van Gogh is an old bearded man. 🤔
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
well...no, since this Van Gogh is not actual Van Gogh, but a Clytie - a Greek mythological figure who was turned into a sunflower.
Thank you for making this video! I took a look at her kit and realized she can fit anywhere. She is basically Super Orion with a twist in my opinion.
Besides my gripes about losing out on the actual Van Gogh, i will definitely be rolling for her. Hard not to when quick is my favorite type, crits are life, and she has a craziness i can get behind.
@muchluck7981
Жыл бұрын
I mean we may still get the actual van gogh someday. This van gogh is kinda psycho lol
Some people don't roll for her because of these misconceptions. I don't roll for her because Daddy Douman is just around the corner We are not the same.
@manwithabasicprofilepic
Жыл бұрын
You’re right, I roll for Van Gogh and Mister Tongue.
@higonakamura1236
Жыл бұрын
Same. But for me is Muramasa.
@jovan9109
Жыл бұрын
Me who's praying to get them both with my only 200 sq : 👁👄👁
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
@@jovan9109 same
@aikakiryuu9454
Жыл бұрын
Same I'm saving for KoyanLight
Honestly you make a good arguement for Van Gogh. Though I'm still going for Nemo but I'll defitely consider her if I happen to have spare SQ then, for future Lucky Bags, or when interlude 17 campaign comes around.
If they say she's bad, then they don't know how to use her.
As someone who lacks a Skadi, my Gogh on jp has never had any issue dominating many, many fights, nor has she ever really been a bad option as a crit support since crit up, atk up, another atk up with star gather rate for 3 turns, stars/turn, quick res down, and def down are all pretty useful, not to mention a party wide 1 hit evade is a nice tool for challenging content most of the time. Van Gogh is just a good in general
Not rolling for Gogh because you don't have Skadi is like not rolling for Chad Orion because you don't have Merlin. They don't need it, don't you worry.
The only reason I'm not rolling for Gogh is the fact I've choose to save all sq for muramasa. It's clear by her kit she likes to crit alot so by putting her with people who can either gen even more stars or by someone who needs a shit tone of stars. Like you could many have Heracles in there simply for raw damage kek
I have to admit I haven't looked much into how she worked I understood the basics but the more I've been using her the more I like how she plays. Really unique playstyle. Yeah it's easy for people to just make basic assumptions about a Servant just by glancing at their kits.
When the servant is so busted that the best support is herself.
van gogh carried me through JP and honestly like all you need for support most of the time is literally just another Van Gogh, shes one of the least demanding unit to use imo since you really dont need to have any specific unit yourself, just your own gogh and a support gogh is enough for most battles in the game
@Nyaarlathotep
Жыл бұрын
Gonna NP5 2k 120 her anyways knowing she’s top5 servants in the game at NP1 🛐
@perseusfateprototype
Жыл бұрын
@@Nyaarlathotep preach
I just started playing on JP recently and borrowed someone's Van gogh. She has been carrying me to lostbelt 2, and my only support is waver from the free ssr ticket. Gonna roll for her on NA fosho Edit: I got her both on my JP and NA now. I'm so happy 🥳
Excellent video, thank you.
I been enlightened by her when I start playing JP. I always paired her with Sen no Rikyu and Douman when I'm having trouble. You must really used her to know how effective and devastating she is.
A team comp I'm really having unexpected fun with is Gogh + Himiko. Himiko gives an incredible star regen to compliment Goghie's NP one, overcharges her NP (which is good, since you're already stacking a lot of crit dmg by spamming it and buffing the atk more gives bigger returns anyway afaik) and thank to Goghie's role being interchangable between main and sub dps/support, you can switch between one and the other being the dpt based on current skill cooldown. And they should technically not vibe at all together card-wise. Just goes to show how versatile and malleable our little flower truly is. You can do so many cool things with her it's not even funny.
From my understanding she's a Quick Super Orion so like him she doesn't need Skadi but support that buff crit dmg helps
Hey, if I can make my Zerkerlot semi loop without skadi, then I can make Gogh work without skadi.
28 seconds of silence and then he starts talking. I got scared shitless cause I was checking my audio to see if it's my end and when he spoke up it was loud as hell
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
I apologize my phone editing software screwed up during export
Van Gogh : who need skadi? I choose Doman ! Rise chaotic•evil gank
Surprised to see how few people know how to use Van Gogh. I've always used a double van Gogh x Summer BB team comp to crush bosses/CQs and steamroll level 90+ quests.
Going for NP 5 Van Gogh when she comes out. Van Gogh is best girl after all.
This video reminds me of how when Van Gogh first came out there were some JP KZreadrs saying Van Gogh was very situational or compex
so the question now is if you have a Van Gogh, do you roll for Douman or Jacques as the 3rd member of the party?
I'm surprised people consider her bad, Last time I checked she was to quick what super Orion is for buster?????
U can also use double van gogh with Helena for more stars per turn, buster art quick buff multipliers, and 20% np up for all. Since she's a 4 stars and not story locked, you can get her quite easily
@nechocat1234
Жыл бұрын
or hans
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, that's interesting. Just got spooked by Helena yesterday while rolling for yu-yu
The funny thing is I don't remember ever watching any video where they even use Skadi to assist her.
Want to run her with Yang, risk rolling or save for Muramasa?
I see that make sense I usually though every quick servants needed skadi always.
Are you going to make a review for van gogh? or do you not plan to make any more guides
thank you for your deep analysis! now i'm gonna roll a bit, wish me luck!! 120 SQ in and i got fionn...
I see a lot of untapped territory people have with Van Gogh, outside of people using her as a soloist Quick Chadrion or makeshift "Quick" support. While I would throw a bit towards Van Gogh's way, I am sadly strapped for Quartz between the last couple of banners and I need to save Percy, Oberon, Magician Charlotte and throw whatever leftovers I got at Izumo. Still, I appreciate you clearing up these misconceptions.
Does Van Gogh double douman teams work with her?
What’s your opinion on np levels on Van Gogh? I know they’re obviously not necessary as it’s a non damage NP, but how good is np2+? I love her and want to get multiple copies but I kinda want to hear other opinions lol
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the scaling for crit up aint bad for this one, I personally only have np1 and if you are more focused on buffing specifically foreigners its kind of unnoticeable. However if you like using her on other servants or just enjoy soloing with her in general NP2 can’t hurt. Its really more dependent on your budget and your future roll plans more than anything.
@sshiroyakuza
Жыл бұрын
As an NP2 owner, the 25% CD makes a difference. It’s certainly worth going for NP2 but if you’re saving for other servants, NP1 is enough. Van Gogh will easily clear any future CQ that isn’t debuff immune even at NP1.
Van Gogh or Super Orion or Muramasa? Having hard time picking on which one of them to roll. I have yet to fill Foreigner, Saber and Archer slots with 5 Stars.
@K0DA._.
Жыл бұрын
Muramasa does have pretty good crits, but the other two have better crits. The main difference, then, is that Muramasa is a really good AOE looping unit, too. Do you need a looper, or would you rather have people really good for boss fights? If you did want a looper, you also have the option of Space Ishtar, who I believe comes early January.
I have not even bothered to put them into a team once. Have not found a single need to. Maybe once the events over?
if i could only roll one , van gogh or douman ?
But what are you doing with bang and Go? what is the gameplay? (Im asking seriously)
Hey I'm a new player to fate go started early october and I just finished babilonya. I have gilgamesh as my only 5 star with heracles berserk. I was thinking of summoning for van goh and douman. It is a good idea? Or should I just wait for some kind of better servants that i should save up for that i don't know of?
@U1and0nly
Жыл бұрын
Since there are no upcoming banners that really goes well with buster servants (iirc), having van gogh would be a really good starter. Especially in Epic of Remnant and Cosmos in the Lostbelt where there are a lot of break bars and forced supports.
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
roll for them and then start saving for Koyanskaya and Oberon.
@nknown3982
Жыл бұрын
You can pull for douman, probably skip Gogh and save for castoria Oberon and koyanskya as those are the best servants in the game Edit: you don't really need Gogh for story reasons since you can just use support castoria/merlin to carry you through story and you should bond 10 heracles so he can truly unleash his potential
I only played JP for like half a year but Double Gogh team carried my whole ass through 90% of difficult content. They crit every enemy into oblivion. I only have 120 quartz on NA currently, pls pray for me to get her.
so... your telling me run her with summer bb to lock in those cards for big girl crits
Some people think that you should just uninstall if you don't have Skadi, so I just follow my heart and neuron activation when it comes to rolling, then I built a team around it, don't care if it's tier A or C.
So to be short, she is overpowered only when you know how to use her, where to use her or when to use her
maybe a really stupid question, but can she make a wave 1 np, wave 2 and 3 crit farming team with hokusai? assume she is max grailed, foud, append and np 5. i know its not the most usefull farming method but it seems fun to do. atleast seems good for CQ
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
Plushie did exactly that but with Jacques instead of Hokusai. At wave 1 the three of them NP'd and then they crit on wave 2 and 3
@diobrando4024
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, the video is titled "The future of farming in FGO"
Something weird i saw some people that van gogh either mainly work as a support or is only a support. Wich is so stupid because there is a reason people call her Quick Super Orion
Hmm... Would Van Gogh work with OG Abigail?
Oh yah, I used to have her on an old account before even I knew how to play the game, I didn’t know how buffs worked or anything I never used proper characters and she carried me to Camelot basically by herself.
So what are some good servants to add to Van Gogh (besides another Van Gogh)?
@PossessedbyPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Other Outer Domain units
If Van Gogh can support any of the Abigails, then I am for sure rolling for her. VG-Summer Abby-Douman would be a pretty interesting comp to work with too.
@lanspecter493
Жыл бұрын
Yo imagine sleeping in terror 👍
@nornng7082
Жыл бұрын
didn't abi can take the second crit+ buff from van gogh np? van gogh is true foreigner sup isn't she?
@kapresmoke5869
Жыл бұрын
@@nornng7082 Abby does get the bonus Existence Beyond the Domain buff yeah. VG is stupendously good in being DPS (solo or team), crit support general and foreigner. Very well designed in gameplay, top tier. Hopefully Lavinia down the line could also help being a foreigner support
Perhaps I can wedge summer Abigail into Van Gogh team for viable buster crit meme.
Haohao did not come home, so after farming I will now roll for the gogh
double van gogh + atlas MC, at turn 5, one Gogh will have atleast 150% NP charge. And on the 7th turn, the other will have atleast 180%. But enough of that, i just want my Clytie Van Gogh and i got NP2, i'm fine skipping every banner until the 6th anniv.
Double Gohg Jalter is something I really want to try.
Another misconception about Van Gogh is no, she is not one of the moths in doujins at nhentai
I'm not planning to roll for Van Gogh because Himiko drained almost all my SQs stacks. Eventhough I indeed saved for her, I didn't expect her to need that many-----
you rotated his and she im confused
I won't roll Van Gogh because she doesn't want to come home...help
Honestly my go to 90+ Team before Koyanskaya and a Team I love running even today with her, is my Level 120 Summer Abby, Himiko, Van Gogh, or Abby, Gogh, Gogh/Douman!
Wrong, she is beast++ WITH skadi and already beast without skadi.
Is she on rate up on jp?
Double Van Gogh is absolutely ridiculous in terms of crit damage. She’s the only reason why I’m even able to beat event CQs. I’ve heard the later Lostbelts are thick with high HP berserkers, so having a Gogh will make your life much easier while going through them.
My NA party is focused on Arts, but I'm going to roll for Van Gogh just because I like her
I am mostly rolling for her because I want any supports I can get for Molay
What a temptation, but I'll keep saving for Ibuki-neesan.
@naiRISE766
Жыл бұрын
nice
does double vangogh works with voyager ?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Yes
my dumbass over here using van gogh with a waver and CASTORIA for i have no other supports and she can still hit crits up to 200k plus
You also don't need to roll np2 if you're just using her for foreigner crits. Np2 will give foreigners +175% crit damage which is added to the base crit damage of 200% for a total of 375% total damage. Np1 is 350% which is only ~7% lower.
@muchluck7981
Жыл бұрын
So Np2 is only for non foreigner critting? Hmmm
I got Van Gogh by accident during Imaginary Scramble on JP (I was rolling for one of the CEs) but man I'm glad I got her. She's become my go-to for challenge quests.
She is crit generator with 50-100 np charge.
for new accounts Hans + whale Van Gogh will clear almost all fights lol
I’m only rolling for Summer Mama Raikou in this event, I don’t wanna try and deal with her kit. Good luck to anyone who’s gonna be rolling for her though
i sure do wish taira wasn't in a few months or so feels bad, having to pick one
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
same. rolling for Gogh and Douman with my f2p savings and then I have to start saving for Koyan and Sussy Mothman, I'll have to skip Taira :(
I can’t wait to roll for her. I really wanted a quick support for my roster.
Yeah, I’m gonna be that weirdo that uses double VG and Okki. Why? Dunno. Just feel like it may work out.
4th most common misconception: Van Gogh is coming home in these five tickets.
But why don't I see Van Gogh get used against Cernunnos?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Because cernunnos has his own drain mechanic + curse and van gogh really cant handle the passive damage on top of her own gimmick
@alexandreluna2276
Жыл бұрын
@@PlushieMistress Makes sense, especially when I saw the 4T strats gave me PTSD and the bastard ain't even on NA yet.
I can't think on any instance Van Gogh would be bad... except the Cernunnos battle, I think?
@K0DA._.
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t she just put a bunch of the 2* CCs that remove DOTs on her cards, then remove a whole 6 curse stacks in one turn with a Quick chain? Not to mention that she has a class advantage as a foreigner.
Van Gogh is one of the most self sustainable DPSs if not the best, on top of having great team utility. I don't know why they released her because she's BROKEN
Originally rolled her for her looks. Stayed for how good she is
Should I compromise my Senji Muramasa for van gogh though...
Van gogh is a support or DPS ?
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Both
Can’t misunderstand her if I don’t even read her skills 😅
People to this day still have a hard time seeing her value. Eventually, it will click when they realize how good Van Gogh is.
I'm still wondering if i should pull for her or not. In terms of SQ i have a lot (300sq plus 150 worth of frags) but my account is already broken with servants like Chad Orion and castoria to the point where I easily do any challenge quest with little to no effort
@PlushieMistress
Жыл бұрын
Tbh for endgame accounts like that its very hard to justify rolling anything for pure utility, it really depends on your preference in the end
@dudsummon3803
Жыл бұрын
Yep have super orion and himiko , merlin castoria. So rolling on yang because I like her art and np.
@MaouNobunaga
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, she's just far easier to use than Super Orion whom you have to setup for by aligning those Buster cards. Van Gogh gets her Crit Dmg on every card. Double Super Orion is not a good way to get him going while Double Van Gogh just works so well. On top of that she has good support capabilities. If you're going to use Maou like me, then you'd get everything you can to further increase the repertoire of Maou Nobu supports. 😎 btw. Van Gogh Solo is bonkers too
@nknown3982
Жыл бұрын
For endgame players i personally would never recommend servants like Gogh or himiko since you can already clear the CQs with double castoria/merlin setups, much better to roll for QoL servants like Oberon, koyanskya perhaps morgan
@nknown3982
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@@MaouNobunaga i mean, you don't usually see people using orion unless you want that solo clear which at that point is purely done for fun
I got her with a ticket when i was taking a shit so here i am
The best support for Van Gogh is not another Van Gogh but 2 Doumans.