FFXIV: Dawntrail Graphical Update Comparison

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Dawntrail came with a hefty graphical upgrade! Some places are extremely different, with some others looking about the same. Here is a mishmash of different areas from every expansion that I thought might make good comparisons, or were suggested in my Discord!
I will go through every expansion in order, with a bit of spoilers at the end for the Endwalker section. Unfortunately there was just some areas I felt really needed to be shown... Thinking more on it I probably should have checked a certain Shadowbringers area too. Little late for that!
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  • @WeskAlber
    @WeskAlber11 күн бұрын

    Note: If you want a REAL idea of what the changes can be like, go do Syrcus Tower

  • @Vayshen

    @Vayshen

    10 күн бұрын

    Dude, I just did the first wing of CT last night and I almost couldn't recognize it. It looks so much better and atmospheric now.

  • @snogard106

    @snogard106

    10 күн бұрын

    Amon is broken tho so don't do CT yet lol

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    10 күн бұрын

    @@snogard106 They fixed this long ago

  • @Mangoekaki
    @Mangoekaki14 күн бұрын

    The lighting updates are SUCH a game changer among the many major improvements. The first time I stepped into the Crystal Tower raids after the update I was in complete awe at how much the atmosphere changed. Thanks for putting these together and so carefully mimicking your camera angles as close as the original!

  • @cstrouts
    @cstrouts13 күн бұрын

    If you want to see a dramatic change due to the lighting engine updates, visit Mor Dhona during the "gloom" weather condition. In the old version, the gloom makes the sky all purple and full of glowy purple special effects. When you see it in the new version, that purple light gets reflected all over the walls of the town, and you realize, yes, this is how it should have looked all along.

  • @hioute
    @hioute14 күн бұрын

    it felt kind of subtle at first when i started Dawntrail, but after playing for a while now it's really apparent how much the lighting in particular has improved. the shadows and highlights on everything are just gorgeous now. the new textures are also fantastic but the lighting alone makes me sooo happy. love the video!!

  • @arryn786

    @arryn786

    9 күн бұрын

    Yeah it’s quite noticeable in this video that everywhere seemed to have a particular ‘haze’ effect over it in terms of lighting which has been lifted in the update.

  • @youreverydayrae
    @youreverydayrae14 күн бұрын

    I cant stop admiring the textures of my Xaela's scales. They look so good

  • @connor2191

    @connor2191

    14 күн бұрын

    FR they look so pretty now :D

  • @sillen8612
    @sillen861214 күн бұрын

    Me, a detail-oriented nerd, has been walking through DT like "ooooh look at the rocks-trees-sky-textures-metal-cloth-render distance-sunrise-random improved thing" as I go through new and existing areas. This was a cool comparison to see side-by-side!

  • @farlado5459
    @farlado545913 күн бұрын

    The only way I can think to describe the changes is that it's exactly how XIV looks when I *think* about XIV. And I love that.

  • @fzaoo
    @fzaoo14 күн бұрын

    great video, made clear that a loooot of textures weren't touched.. It's mostly a lighting upgrade with few textures made better and a lot kept the same.

  • @nightplaymc

    @nightplaymc

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes and as they have stated already, there will be more upgrades coming with patches. They said not everything will be immediately changed or upgraded on launch same as with double dyes. They expect to be done adding double dyes by 7.4 and didn't give a specific patch for the graphics update

  • @Zakjuh

    @Zakjuh

    14 күн бұрын

    a lot of textures and shaders were touched, though. just not all. i'm hoping they'll keep on working on it

  • @ngwoo

    @ngwoo

    14 күн бұрын

    A handful of things look worse too. Screen space reflections are basically gone in the new version. Shiny floors no longer look shiny and water looks terrible.

  • @Zakjuh

    @Zakjuh

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ngwoo Water looks better though. Shiny floors still exist, but it's in DT areas, so probably an error in conversion with older areas.

  • @laerwen

    @laerwen

    14 күн бұрын

    A lot of things WERE touched, and quite a few were not. They did explain that they'd do more over time.

  • @roda123
    @roda12311 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the time spent in creating very similar shots and day/time/weather conditions, also thanks for the 1440p resolution as well!

  • @avamoxy8774
    @avamoxy877413 күн бұрын

    I think the biggest graphical change has to be Wesk's paissa minion

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    13 күн бұрын

    Look, I'm an FF9 boy. I need to rep Zidane a LITTLE BIT

  • @avamoxy8774

    @avamoxy8774

    13 күн бұрын

    @@WeskAlber LOL

  • @kevlepuff
    @kevlepuff14 күн бұрын

    Texture work in clothing in cutscenes is where I have noticed the graphic update the most. Lighting on metal is also vastly improved such as on armor

  • @RevvieStarlight
    @RevvieStarlight14 күн бұрын

    lol at 28:30 that’s my Au’ra, I recognized you and was trying to say hi but I didn’t know you were filming footage for this vid 😅

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    14 күн бұрын

    oh, well hi lol

  • @Scarabswarm
    @Scarabswarm8 күн бұрын

    Thanks for all the work you put into, not just showing the changes, but preserving the record of them. Now we can point the sprouts to this video and go, "Back in my day..."

  • @yungnolza7412
    @yungnolza741213 күн бұрын

    me : can't wait for weskalber guides! weskalber : rocks.

  • @sirlenemodesto2665
    @sirlenemodesto266514 күн бұрын

    Good to see Wesk's mewing worked out, also boy is ffxiv a old game some of the old zones really needed the update.

  • @levimoura8086
    @levimoura808613 күн бұрын

    They should've put some bloom on crystals, they look rather flat without it

  • @Zakjuh
    @ZakjuhКүн бұрын

    I was in the Ala Mhigan Quarter yesterday for NG+ and I just idled for a bit. A few feet away and above my character, there was a flag waving in the wind, and the "sun"light hit it from a diagonal angle, casting a shadow on the surrounding area and NPCs near it. Now, I'm not sure if this is new per se, but I'm used to the pre-7.0 shadows being like 5 FPS. In this case, the shadow's silhouette dynamically changed with the movement of the billowing flag, changing how it projected on the ground, the NPCs and the objects near it in real time. Not a big deal for modern games, of course. But it is something I hadn't really seen before in XIV. Not that I recall.

  • @ReyReyzzz
    @ReyReyzzz14 күн бұрын

    Did the ground plant and bush foliage increase across all expansion zones or am i trippin?

  • @hope_youhaveagoodday

    @hope_youhaveagoodday

    14 күн бұрын

    It did! They mention increasing the foliage generation everywhere when previewing the graphical update

  • @iBe_ImmorTaLiiTy
    @iBe_ImmorTaLiiTy9 күн бұрын

    Hey there Wesk! Thanks for all your hard work on the guides. I check them out frequently for the best tips and if a class is right for me. I'm new to the game so they are very handy. Will you be doing a lvl 1-19 for the viper class? Been waiting for it to see if that will be my class or the Dark Knight :D

  • @Sil3ntLynx
    @Sil3ntLynx13 күн бұрын

    One question here, did you have that one resolution set to 100 or 99? Have they fixed that quirk yet?

  • @Sil3ntLynx
    @Sil3ntLynx13 күн бұрын

    4:06 Uplander has fungames on their tomestone?

  • @OmegaDNA
    @OmegaDNA14 күн бұрын

    What is the music that starts at 17:30? It is amazing

  • @Lokamim

    @Lokamim

    13 күн бұрын

    Hall of Worship from FF Tactics, also plays after finishing Orbonne Monastery alliance

  • @dollz4495
    @dollz449513 күн бұрын

    Hey bro, are you gonna do some leveling skills guide like in previous expantions?

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    13 күн бұрын

    Have I ever said I'm not?

  • @dollz4495

    @dollz4495

    12 күн бұрын

    @@WeskAlber King 🙇‍♂️

  • @ArtificialVik
    @ArtificialVik12 күн бұрын

    Shame that the crystals in mor dhona no longer have that bloom effect

  • @hmm_norah
    @hmm_norah11 күн бұрын

    7:49 what happened to the crystal effects? Looks so much worse now.

  • @Sketchblopp
    @Sketchblopp10 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video! I noticed an improvement, of course, but this side by side comparison shows how drastic these changes have been (and I daresay it's for the better, a lot). Toto-Rak is an interesting one. I always had the feeling the new version is kind of a teaser for the graphical update, considering how much better it already looked after the rework. It's so pretty... for a slimy spider infested dungeon. :D I wonder about further improvements for NPCs with unique faces and all. Tried to check them out in cutscenes but really wasn't sure if e.g. Aymeric or the Alliance Leaders already got their personal face lift. They all look better because they are all affected by better lighting and shaders and whatever was changed, but they are still quite a bit away from Handsome Squidward Roe in Dawntrail. (I also think I've seen some artifacts in Aymeric's face in the eye region, so there is that.) But who knows if this style is what they're actually going for for all of them. Of course it's a bit more obvious with the Pixel Exarch in Shb. He's still patiently waiting in line it seems. :D Either way I'm excited to see how this game will look like once all updates are complete!

  • @Dzyntara
    @Dzyntara13 күн бұрын

    I was impressed, and then I saw Il Mheg and I was FLOORED. The flowers are absolutely gorgeous!

  • @Joseph-J-
    @Joseph-J-12 күн бұрын

    Am I being gaslit here? People acting like this is the second coming, and I’m here checking if I have the graphics update turned on…

  • @acefire0005
    @acefire000514 күн бұрын

    Great way to do this. Unfortunately I struggle to see the actual differences lol (beyond certain things like “crystal now more crystaly and no longer dull,” etc.), but I do know they are there (my “special eyes” interfering no doubt). When I pick a spot and *really* look, it becomes easier to tell. Gridania especially, my favorite place to chill.

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    14 күн бұрын

    A lot of stuff is brighter, even aside from lightning differences. Accents like the crystarium courtyard also very different

  • @acefire0005

    @acefire0005

    14 күн бұрын

    @@WeskAlber Sounds like great reasons to simply wander around and study little areas I like. Thanks for the effort making this. Much appreciated!

  • @midnitdragoon
    @midnitdragoon17 сағат бұрын

    Just like mounts shift a bit depending on direction you go.... Player movement animations need a similar update

  • @Antedithulian
    @Antedithulian11 күн бұрын

    I'm not even a graphics guy, and I was honestly surprised how good everything looked. I wasn't expecting much of a difference at all.

  • @IKIGAIofficial
    @IKIGAIofficial10 күн бұрын

    Its like they just deleted that washed out filter. 12:44 the way light falls off looks near CGI in some shots 17:23 look at that ground 23:27 lakelands trees dont look like pixel soup anymore Also, sheathed ultimate weapons finally don't look gross lol

  • @crownmemory6945
    @crownmemory694510 күн бұрын

    Your character looked a lot like wesker more now than before 😂 Any idea to upgrade your youtube profile picture maybe?

  • @FieldMarshall3
    @FieldMarshall3Күн бұрын

    I wish they would let us chose how many players can be on screen at the same time before they fade out. Or let us fade out the players in our hitbox instead of ones further away. It looks so empty when players are swarming your character. Maybe some sort of system like they have for fading out people around quest NPC's but centered around the player.

  • @barisaxman2
    @barisaxman214 күн бұрын

    Not really to do with the old zones, but i love all the extra detail in the new zones. Extra plants etc really fills the space.

  • @XOPWNDOX
    @XOPWNDOX11 күн бұрын

    19:26 to 20:08 Is it just me or Resident Evil Vibes lol.

  • @baylaust
    @baylaust13 күн бұрын

    This graphical update is the sort of case where as I'm playing casually, I'm thinking "This looks nice. A little touched up here and there, nothing too crazy. A good little polish." Then I see it side-by-side with old footage and go "Holy SHIT."

  • @cordrac
    @cordrac10 күн бұрын

    Wow your paissa minion underwent the biggest change I think!

  • @maximilianroth6435
    @maximilianroth643514 күн бұрын

    You do God’s work

  • @Rickseriastar
    @Rickseriastar8 күн бұрын

    Some of it looks much better, but others.. I feel like the atmosphere was completely changed. Like the crystals no longer glowing. The bloom being taken down is fine and all but all of the glow seems to have been stripped. Also the hardwood floors lost their gloss. Kind of sad. Guess the floor polisher quit haha. Overall though, the game looks wonderful still. It’s amazing how well it holds despite it’s age. Sure, it’s not anywhere close to FF16 or even FF15 but it doesn’t need to be. I know they’re not done yet, so I’m hopeful they’ll touch up some of it later. Also happy to say the game actually seems to run better for me now? DLSS probably has a hand in that though. It’s great stuff either way. Now if only the dps duty que wasn’t a massive hurdle to get through so I can actually get into DT content. I’m so close… Please…

  • @danielc3029
    @danielc302913 күн бұрын

    7:52 The difference here is insane, especially the rock texture.

  • @Zakjuh

    @Zakjuh

    12 күн бұрын

    Agreed. I hope they put that crystalline shader they use for aetherytes for the crystals there, though.

  • @Tashiro64
    @Tashiro645 күн бұрын

    I feel like this video doesnt do justice to the graphical update :/ Or I just think the update did too much ? but I'm in Idyllshire rn and with the rain...... chef kiss! I know most of the changes are lighting / shadows / metal textures / reflections on ice for example, like it's said Syrcus Tower I was blown away lol. But when it rains, my god i can spend 5 minutes rotating the camera to see all that glow hmmmmmm

  • @UltraObama
    @UltraObama9 күн бұрын

    Anyone else waiting for the 1-100 guide for VPR and PCT? 😅

  • @M0du5Pwn3n5
    @M0du5Pwn3n52 күн бұрын

    A lot of them are higher fidelity now, but with way less care for the atmosphere. You can tell that the lighting was placed by hand before, and you can tell that the new replacements were done mostly algorithmically, which is sort of what I was afraid of. It looks like one of those AI remasters where the quality went up, but the artistry and vibes of a lot of places got erased. Some real standouts that benefited a ton. Some of the Heavensward ruins look way better for instance. I think Sharlayan benefited a lot from the shadows too, and some of the canopy shadows in some of the forest locations look a lot better. Some of the crystals I'm kind of mixed on. Yes, they look much sharper and more crystalline. At the same time, the soft glow used to disguise this. They look more detailed now, but they look like more detailed video game models to me, and it actually kind of takes me out of it. Across the board, a lot of artistic decisions basically got erased. Gridania used to be really soft and shady - now it's harsh sun and sharp shadows all over the place, and it feels a lot less sleepy and peaceful. Even its aetheryte - it's higher fidelity for sure, but I'm not sure that turning its pleasant dull glow into glass was actually an improvement to the vibes. Limsa's grey fog was rooted in a graphics limitation, but it also contributed to the vibe of Limsa - it's a foggy harbor city. The Black Mage room just looks worse. Previously, it was lit as if the orange lights were casting a really atmospheric warm orange glow into a shadowy room. Now the candles seem weird in a room that is pretty well-lit and the orange torches just look out of place - little orange point lights in a room already pretty filled with cooler light. Similarly, the Limsa pillar looks terrible. It was clearly lit with care before to make the whole pillar stand out. Now the lighting looks really haphazard. The gold in the ground in front of the Crystal Tower looks dull from a lot of angles now. Is it more realistic? Sure. That's what gold looks like. Does it actually look better? I'm not sure. I'll take artistry and vibes over realism most of the time, so I'm a little disappointed in this, just like all the other mostly-automated game remasters we've seen recently.

  • @Zakjuh

    @Zakjuh

    Күн бұрын

    uhhh

  • @Reynsoon
    @Reynsoon13 күн бұрын

    Foliage, crystals, lighting, and global illumination methinks>

  • @Will-sb4hf
    @Will-sb4hf14 күн бұрын

    While everything looks good but Elpis's skybox suffered a lot. It was unique for its zone but now it's just the same clear skies as other zones. I haven't set my foot yet. Maybe the one you recorded was a variation and the original sky still remains.

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    14 күн бұрын

    I believe weather and time play a part.

  • @neema.420
    @neema.42013 күн бұрын

    My favorite part is the color change of the whole game. Before it was so grey I found it unbearable and used Nvidia filter, now I don't need to :D

  • @ew275x
    @ew275x14 күн бұрын

    Crystal Exarch arms still looks goofy in those cutscenes

  • @Zakjuh

    @Zakjuh

    14 күн бұрын

    Crystal Exarch (and a lot of custom NPCs) were not updated. Varis, Zenos, Gaius, Venat, etc. All still old. The only new thing they might have is eyes, hair and mouths, which seem to just have gotten a global replacement. (In cases where the eyes and hair were already used by players.)

  • @laerwen

    @laerwen

    14 күн бұрын

    Give them time.

  • @bikko3089
    @bikko30893 күн бұрын

    So like playing with an ENB

  • @bendonatier
    @bendonatier14 күн бұрын

    It really strikes me just how blue aetherites are now. Like yeah no shit they're blue, but like they are beautiful.

  • @andreadigney6247

    @andreadigney6247

    14 күн бұрын

    yeah the crystal textures are HUGELY improved. They look amazing.

  • @voidruin025
    @voidruin02513 күн бұрын

    nooo,, my pc meybe explode with this graphic :(

  • @gregbrown8881
    @gregbrown888114 күн бұрын

    10:40 I always hated this dungeon because everything had a washed out, paper-cutout look to it. This new lighting makes everything look like it's actually 3D.

  • @DavidPereiraLima123
    @DavidPereiraLima12314 күн бұрын

    The devs put a lot of heart in it and it shows. My major likes were the water looking more realistic and less like mercury (that's not an easy feat) and the choice for mystical horizons, blurred the right way instead of a clear line between land/sea and the sky.

  • @eminitori2478
    @eminitori247814 күн бұрын

    From this I think most of the changes boiled down to "blurry thing is not blurry."

  • @098Xzibit
    @098XzibitКүн бұрын

    I mean kinda pointless comparison since the time of day varies dramatically

  • @Apollow99
    @Apollow9914 күн бұрын

    I have grief with how they handled details in this update, any scene with foliage makes me lose a ton of frames and it is annoying that there is no setting for having piss poor foliage. There were a couple instances where a cutscene involving a lot of Tullioyali cutizens was a 15fps powerpoint because of some details. It definitely soured the experience

  • @LysLilyRose
    @LysLilyRose14 күн бұрын

    Wish they didn't change some facial features structurally like mouths, my character is completely different and now looks like a porcelain doll it makes me really sad

  • @Shakzor1

    @Shakzor1

    14 күн бұрын

    that's why we got a free fantasia (obtainable in Ul'Dah, north of the market boards)

  • @miandyeon
    @miandyeon14 күн бұрын

    What update? Looks only crystal things they did lol

  • @WeskAlber

    @WeskAlber

    14 күн бұрын

    There's a lot of other updates in here, while also showing many areas mostly the same.

  • @alexmorath
    @alexmorath14 күн бұрын

    Mor Dhona has lost so much esoteric charm :( Most differences are so small that I could barely tell a difference in the video, apart from lighting and some color warmth tweaks. But I've been genuinely wondering in-game if anything older than Endwalker had been touched at all, before I saw this. So far, I'm quite disappointed tbh. Most changes range from pointless to barely noticeable at all, to me. Many areas feel lifeless suddenly, but then again, I haven't been able to tell in-game so maybe not a big deal.

  • @laerwen

    @laerwen

    14 күн бұрын

    Mor Dhona no longer looks like the textures are painted on. I think it's one of the most changed zones in the game. All the crystal looks real!

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