11:30 Build - Rune Blade, Cetran Bracer, Genji Gloves - Lightning and Wind + Swiftcast, Lightning + Magic Focus, Lightning + MP Absorption, First Strike, ATB Boost, Magic Up, Enemy Skill, ATB Stagger, ATB Assist, Skill Master, Strength Up, Phoenix - ATB Charge Rate Up, Improved Punisher, Magic Attack Power +20, Full-Power Magic For first-timers: replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption, and (maybe) Skill Master with HP Up. Manawall on Cloud with Zack for safety if you want. Overall strategy is the same, it will just take more time. Full strategy in the description. - Cloud: ATB Boost, Prime Mode, Sonic Boom, Plasma Discharge, -ara and -aga spells. - Zack: Faith, Haste, Stop, Chain Slash, -ara and -aga spells. - Sonic Boom buffs last a lot less than Faith/Bravery, so you'll use it only for short rounds. - Make best use of ATB Stagger (for example, if you have full ATB and cast Thundara to stagger you'll get most ATB bar back). - Make best use of ATB Assist to fill Zack's ATB. Most times you'll trigger it by using Prime Mode / Plasma Discharge / Sonic Boom back-to-back (you can also trigger it with spells). - You'll be In Prime Mode most of the time because you need Berserk 2 and auto-parries. - Strong attacks are "tanky" (Cloud won't be interrupted unless the enemy is big, like Kujata or Ironclad), fill a lot of ATB, but don't pressure much. Light attacks don't fill much ATB but pressure more. - Get used to how much ATB each attack fills and how strong attacks work. For example, if you press and hold attack right after a parry or a command (like a spell), Cloud will immediately start with a strong attack without the usual "light slash". This is useful because a full strong attacks combo + two strong attacks exactly fill Cloud's ATB (see the Hueyacoatl fight). - You can counterfire most magic, AoE, and ranged attacks: stomps (Titan, Alexander), beams (Alexander), spells (Brineborn Demon), breaths (Hueyacoatl), most of Bahamut magic attacks.

@Rationalityislost101

2 ай бұрын

Dumb question as it is probably just due to the enemies with lightning weakness being tankier and later in the fights, but is there an additional benefit of lightning over wind as far as the primary spell to kit out with MP absorb and Magic Focus? Would it be easier for those seeking a first time clear to forgoe /str up/ and /enemy skill/ with /lightning/ + /HP absorb/

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

​@@Rationalityislost101 Not a dumb question, I also took some time to see what build was better (lightning vs wind). The thing is that Thundaga hits muuuuch faster than Aeroga. Not only this saves time (and my goal was to be as fast as possible), but also some enemies will "dodge" Aeroga. For example, I use Thundaga to stop Kujata from getting an elemental. This usually doesn't work with Aeroga, because by the time the spell actually hits Kujata has already run away and Aeroga misses. You can also miss Odin and Brineborn Demon if they jump away. Thundaga instead never misses. In terms of weaknesses, Aeroga + Magic Focus would allow for faster Hueyacoatl (2 Aeroga instead of 3) and Titan (no need to Sonic Boom, cast Faith with Zack instead and 1 Aeroga will be enough to destroy the shield). But then you cannot "oneshot" Alexander (it may be doable if Zack casts some spell as well, haven't tried) and some enemies will probably take more hits (Ironclad for sure, and I think Kujata, Bahamut and Odin as well). I think the build is pretty much optimized for the current game version. I tried alternative builds with Enervation instead of Strength Up, or an extra Magic Focus + Lightning, but they are bugged (Deshell does nothing, and the extra Magic Focus doesn't increase damage. Also other people have reported these "bugs" on reddit and GameFAQs). But it's definitely not for first timers. The best setup is to replace Strength Up and ATB Assist with Lightning + HP Absorption. And maybe Skill Master with HP Up. This is how I started, then I removed them as I got better. Also, for first timers it would be good to cast Manawall on Cloud in fights were missing a parry is easy and dangerous (I always used it for Bahamut and Odin at first). The strategy is still the same though (like, people should always cast Stop on Hueyacoatl before hitting it with wind).

@kismetatron

Ай бұрын

Thank you for this build. I have been struggling and struggling with this using a similar build but using Wind magic instead and it just felt like it wasn’t cutting it. Going to try this tomorrow and see if I can finally put this fight past me.

I chuckle a little when I remember people saying in the first few days after release that magic sucked in rebirth. Great work

@OverlordShanbo

2 ай бұрын

Magic is so crazily powerful compared to Remake even that it makes me terrified to think of what we're going to face in the next game when we have stronger magic haha.

@andruism7

2 ай бұрын

@@OverlordShanbo Stronger magic, but fewer mages... *sob*

@OverlordShanbo

2 ай бұрын

@@andruism7 What do you mean? Aerith is perfectly fine. Yep. Nothing wrong here at all.

@Urlastnerve

2 ай бұрын

@@andruism7half the cast have great magic…. Aerith, Cloud, Cait Sith.

@are0us913

2 ай бұрын

​@OverlordShanbo they will probably balance it by either killing thr damage on harder difficulties, because 'perfectly balance' or tie the magic level more to atb and require the Ara spells to be two and the aga and up to be three.

I watched this for therapy after finally beating bonds of friendship lol

That's amazing! I can't believe with what people come up with in this game. Nice job👍

Damn I just discovered ur channel and you play as aggressive as me 😦 I thought I was the only one approaching Bonds or To Be a Hero that aggressively. Good stuff

I'm back and I'm just 10 minutes (time game) but it's a great result because thanks to you I beat my record of 14 min. I have just to keep on practicing

This was the best run I've ever seen. You made Odin look like a fool, he didn't even get to use Temporal Imprisonment. Very nice.

Wow amazing skills u made it look easy GG man wish I got half of that realy impressive

More fun looking than rulers of the outer worlds. Completed it today, I'm gonna revenge run it with planet protection or rising fury and limit siphon! I can't wait to play as my favorite character again when I to go back to the simulator I really like how in Crisis Core reunion you can do 99,999 and have that much health. They really show the true power of a soldier with a great story. Like Z is just better than cloud, he has way more power and better techniques and wrecks! Maybe in part 3 of the so-called remake they will let us break the health and damaged cap to show that cloud finally is surpassing his soldier buddy. Idk headcanon. Great job. I'll probably watch this again when I do this challenge

Outrageous R1 action

Incredible, i got them with Wind and a safer Fire/elemental to absorb build but looking at your Ironclad & Alexander... speed. Very inspiring.

This build saved me. Thank you

That was brutal. Took me dozens of tries but your setup got me through… had to do Lightning + HP Absorb though. Never doing that challenge again

When time will come, I'll be back here to prepare myself for this challenge. CRAZY WAY 🤩

That Odin fight tho……😳

Seeing you deal chunks of damage with Thundaga to Odin is so satisfying, true catharsis.

This is so insane

More like IronCHAD

wow

I want the damn plat, but these final challenges are not fun. Once I clear them, I'm never revisiting them again.

@DOC_951

2 ай бұрын

I mean, there’s no reason to once you get the plat lol

I have the same build and my magic attack is only 468. How did u get to 499?

@coccobello9697

6 күн бұрын

@@fabriciotremura2542 is your weapon level maxed? Is Enemy Skill materia maxed (it gives stats boost)?

How important would you say party level 10 is

@coccobello9697

Ай бұрын

Not sure. I don't remember what it unlocks. I'd say go for it, it not that hard compared to Bonds.

@mohamadou4695

Ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 it unlocks an ability called ATB limit where it allows cloud to fill limits gauge when using ATB commands

@coccobello9697

Ай бұрын

@@mohamadou4695 not important

Sonethibg is wrong with ur build I did ecact same but my mage bonus is on 469 and urs is 499??

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

What's your weapon level? Mine is 10 in the video, so if yours is 9 you'll have slightly lower stats (that would be the case if you haven't completed the challenge yet and got the manuscript).

@EKk0522

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 that means my Charakters getting stronger after I I beat the hard story mode? I did everything sephiroth also but I can’t handle Zack + cloud

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

​ @EKk0522 Check your weapon level from the "upgrade weapon" menu. Either you are at level 9 or your Enemy Skill materia is not maxxed (it increases magic by 5% at max level).

@EKk0522

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 im at Level 8 and i did everthing accept for hard Mode and some brutal challanges

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

@@EKk0522 that explains it. I recommend doing everything else before Bonds. It is considered the hardest challenge. Try to get at least enough manuscript to get level 9.

fasho

would you help me get it?

@coccobello9697

Ай бұрын

Sorry I don't do share play

hello hope your doing well,i would like to know if you do help people via share play? thank you

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

Hey, sorry but I don't do that.

@channelclosed6119

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 no problem thanks for the answer

@danemas7875

28 күн бұрын

what is shared play?

@coccobello9697

28 күн бұрын

@@danemas7875 You can let people play the game for you, but progress will count for your account.

@danemas7875

28 күн бұрын

​@@coccobello9697 i​@coccobello9697 interesting thats what i figured just had no idea it had it and that you could do it. do you play at same time w them taking over or they login as you and do everything, ty for reply!

Dude, tell me why I perfectly blocked & parried with Cloud at the beginning of the fight with Odin and somehow I have the red handcuffs already.... I just used sonic boom and plasma discharge as well smh...

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

Luckily I was able to complete the challenge after I typed this comment with a record speed of 11:35 seconds :D

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

But yea Odin handcuffed Cloud TWICE. Cloud parried every hit, Zack even got hit by the allfather attack and no handcuffs :I

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

@@xRoycex Congrats! AFAIK, only Helmcleaver and Scintillating Spear give handcuffs. To prevent that you either have to dodge or perfect parry. Auto-parry in Prime Mode does not prevent status, since you still get hit. If you perfect parry you see "Immune" popping up.

@codeine_ninja

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 you still get Reprisal from perfect blocking Helmcleaver, the only way to avoid being handcuffed by Helmcleaver is dodging

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

@@codeine_ninja really? I remember that once I perfect parried him and didn't get it. But since it was too risky I ended up dodging it (much easier), so my memory may me wrong. Now I am curious and will try again 🤔

How do you do the parry at 10:13?

@coccobello9697

Ай бұрын

These are automatic parries in Prime Mode. Hold block and Cloud will automatic counter any physical attack but will also receive damage. If you time it you won't get damaged. Works only for physical attacks, no magic or ranged (for those, you need to deactivate Prime Mode).

@midoriyaizuku6914

Ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 I appreciate it.. I use your videos as a guide to these bouts. They've been a huge help so far. Thank you.

How about I venmo you if you complete bonds of friendship and to be a hero for me? I’m not joking either. I’m so over this game

@coccobello9697

7 күн бұрын

Sorry man, I don't do that. Check my top comment where I say "For first-timers:" for a simpler and safer strategy, it may help.

@edison7165

7 күн бұрын

@@coccobello9697 I understand. Well, if you change your mind, $50 sounds good? Lol. I’ll try it but I’m somewhat over the game. I’m on chapter 12 on hard so it’s that and the challenges I have left

I'm about to study the heck out of this video. I'm so tired of these challenges and just wished the developers explained things better. As an example if I've slaughtered Kujata the first three times they made me fight him why would I have to worry about him all of a sudden defeating me, especially if a bulk of the challenges are the same "level?" I just think the delivery of this stuff was really poor and miss when "hard challenges" on video games were actually meant to be challenging. Not an excuse for poorly designed & rushed game quality.

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

Something positive I will say both for the video and in general is I do appreciate being able to "learn" from these videos about the importance behind certain timing, skills like counterfire, etc. The game just did such a bad job from explaining synergy skills vs abilities to so many other things. L Developers. W Content Creators.

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Bonds of Friendship and To Be a Hero are too similar. Overall, brutal and legendary challenges could have been designed better.

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

@@xRoycex I have never used counterfire during my playthrough :D Accidentally found out how good it is while doing these challenges.

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 That's incredible. Prior to the content I've been viewing, I had no idea how underrated swift cast would be. No idea that I could stop staggered enemies and use a combination of true strike, rise and fall x omnistrike, back to a doubleboosted rise and fall x strike aGAIN were possible.

@chrislee5268

2 ай бұрын

Gamers be like "games these days handhold you too much, also L for not explaining everything ever."@@xRoycex

Why not just stop on titan right at the start. You could have done it even faster

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

Letting Titan attack you is better because 1) you fill ATB with parries, 2) Haste is better because Cloud needs 1 attack less to fill his ATB, 3) you need 1 Sonic Boom + 1 Aeroga + 1 counterfire (or some counterattacks) to break his shield, so countering also helps with that. In the video I was unlucky that he did Thwack, but otherwise his attacks are very fast to parry. If his 1st attack is Mountain Crusher or a 3-hit combo you can defeat him in 3 seconds less. That's the best time you can get, but it's just luck. Stop is good only with enemies that run around and chasing them would be a waste of time (for example Hueyacoatl turns "supercharged" if you attack with wind and it's not stopped, or Brineborn Demon jumps back to cast spells and you have to chase it).

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

I agree. By stopping titan before he activates the earthen aegis, you're essentially just needing to strike him with 2 aerogas from Cloud. I find the optimal approach to be using the charged attack combo string via prime mode and then casting aeroga before the first stop wears off. As long as you're not too slow or playing awfully, you can usually hit him with a second aeroga from cloud before he tries to reactivate earthen aegis. He's almost guaranteed to fall before the end of a stagger but you could always go for a second stop from Zack if the anxiety demons are attacking you lol.

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

@@xRoycex Wait, you can Stop him BEFORE he casts the shield??? Lol didn't know that!

@xRoycex

2 ай бұрын

@@coccobello9697 Yeah my dude. Sometimes when the game wants to be a pain you might not get the Zack atb charge and you do have to be very quick but it is possible to take him out before he casts Earthen Aegis. The rest of the guide I'm following to a Tee.

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

Just tried and you are right, it's indeed 5-7 seconds faster. Damn! The round should play like this: Stop with Zack (he must start with 1 full ATB), Prime Mode, attacks for Berserk 2 and full ATB, Aeroga to pressure, more strong attacks for 1 ATB, ATB Boost, Aeroga, light attacks or parries to stagger and trigger ATB Stagger, then either Aerora with both Cloud and Zack, or attack for Aeroga with Cloud.

I’ve lost to Odin twice now.. it kills my motivation so much when you get that far just to die at the end….🫤

@coccobello9697

2 ай бұрын

I know :( To play it safe, cast Manawall and Regen on Cloud, stay in Prime Mode and just wait to parry. You can parry all his attacks. If he hits you with Helmcleaver don't attack or he'll use Reprise (switch to Zack). The fight will take longer and at some point he'll use Temporal Imprisonment, but Cloud should have his limit bar full and can use it to be immune.