I ran a Ferris mower with a 33hp Cat. with a 72" deck. I was an awesome machine. Exact same suspension, smooth ride is a huge understatement.

For the cost of this single mower, i could get a whole fleet up and going!

@southernslangerz2254

2 жыл бұрын

Good thing they didn’t make the mower for people like you buddy… They made it for people who need something more or bigger to accomplish more and bigger things with their lawn care business…or people who just have to much money and want the bragging rights! 🤷‍♂️🤣

@thespig13

2 жыл бұрын

@@southernslangerz2254 I'd go with the second part

@southernslangerz2254

2 жыл бұрын

@@thespig13 Hell yea! 🤣🤣🤣

@grgygantz6760

Жыл бұрын

I could see this with a 72 inch deck. Mowing state right a ways.

I own a small fleet of diesel Walker Mowers. All Kubota powered, and my particular unit (nobody else uses the bosses machine lol) just rolled over 8,000hrs this summer, on a D600 that I'm convinced is one of the most reliable little diesels ever built. And for those who don't know... mower engines live a particularly rough, dirty and hot life.

I used to have an L4740 running a 15ft finish bat wing. That tractor had a 41hp PTO out the back. It ran the Batwing just fine. I can't imagine how much torque and power you would have with 48hp going to that small of a deck😳😳

@ChaseLandMgmt

2 жыл бұрын

Must have been mowing some 8” tall field grass to make that claim.

@CluelessRanchHand

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChaseLandMgmt Close we usually use that setup to cut fields to 5 " on a golf course. And occasionally mow 3" to help the other mowers when they got behind. This year it almost exclusively got to mow 3" in parks and the golf course due to a complete failure of a John Deere 1600 wide area mower(admin wanted to wait till new budget year to buy a new one). I'm just glad we got a brand-new M5660suhd to pull the batwing because it got a lot of hours put on it.

I've got the IS700Z and the ISX800 for my mowing business. You can't beat the quality and the suspension of these mowers. I looked at the same mower and thought it was awesome!!! It's a tank!!!!! 😃😃😃

For those who don't like math, 1700cc is 104ci, or 1.7L with a turbo. Cat is a solid motor and if you missed him saying it, warranty motor work has to be don't at cat dealer, they can do work after that but I'd be surprised if there were any isues.

I bet when you get that mower stuck it’s hard to get out ! I can see me myself going up to the property owner and telling them, I’m going to need to get a dozer too pull my new mower out of there yard.

@ChiliblockTrading

2 жыл бұрын

I’m dying of laughter man. So true though. Honestly

@mudhustle

2 жыл бұрын

I have a scag turf tiger two. I've pulled it out with an atv with winch and a come along pretty easily. They do get stuck easily if you get in the wrong situations.

Put this powerhouse in a cub with the GPS system and you're gold. Idk if you saw it, but it gives you a true 3.75in overlap every single pass. At the end of the row, you hit left or right and it turns perfectly and lines up again with 3.75in overlap. With this powers you'd have an amazing piece of machinery that cost as much as a car.

@boydbringolf1251

Ай бұрын

This engine in a Cub....You know who makes Cub? MTD the cheapest mower on the market..I wouldn't go there.

Wow, 🤔 three words! Over killing it, a bit. Thanks Neil for the Demo 👍👍 That's a beast of a mower!

I got 800 hours on a X300 2007 John deer 42 inch don’t even have a hood anymore still runs like day one love it lol ‼️💯

List price of $30,000 with only a 2 year warranty on the engine. CAT needs to stop being cheap with their warranties.

@DC9Douglas

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing this is just a yellow Perkins engine? Cat bought them several years ago and didn't change much except the paint scheme

@markpontes4457

2 жыл бұрын

Yes a smallmCat motors are Perkins. I would take a Kubota, or Yanmar over the Perkins. Better Warranty too!

@DC9Douglas

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpontes4457 cheers to Kubota quality!!!

@jhomrich89

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpontes4457 and you won't have to take your machine to a cat dealer when it needs work which for me is over an hour away. Not gonna work if I have to make money with it

@indianaoutdoors4379

2 жыл бұрын

The 2 year warrenty would have been a ferris decision to cut cost. You should beable to buy an additional 4 years of warrenty through Cat. Also your local Cat dealer under warrenty will come to your house to work on it. At no cost to you unless you did something obvious we can't sneak past warrenty.

Expensive yes. But I never thought they would spend 25 - 30 grand on a side by side either to play on. Yet I see a lot of them

Love my Ferris IS 2100, best ride I've ever seen on a zero turn

@Dave-ei7kk

18 күн бұрын

Same here with my new Ferris ISX2200. The ride is why I bought it but it cuts very well and and even though it has a 60” deck it doesn’t scalp like my old JD with a 48” deck. That was a big surprise.

The price takes me out of the equation!

@RehoKevin

2 жыл бұрын

Hard for me to believe someone would pay $30K for a lawnmower.

@jimmcknight3021

2 жыл бұрын

These Mowers are are for really two types of consumers. One somebody that has more dollars than cents. Two a lawn professional that is doing huge acreages that needs to have a good looking cut once they're finished. Ferris is known for their great suspension in all their ZTR line. Like Neil said this one just takes it to another level.

I had a Ferris 5100 with 33hp Cat. Loved the mower it was great but it had cooling issues that my dealer couldn’t fix. I now have the Ferris IS 3300 with 40hp Briggs air cooled much happier

Hello there! Im using a Ferris 5100 Z at work , it has around 4500 hours still going strong. It's a great machine i love it. Im going hard on it , use it on slopes, hills ( where it can go ) i don't give the machine an easy time i can tell you that. I like the desing,seat and the turbo on the new one, the only downside is that i don't like the hidraulic deck lift on the new 6200 Z...with the old manual ones ( foot pedal ) and the oil switch on the instrument panel you could do so much more work around stumps , un-even terain on slopes and so on.

I wouldn’t tell anyone I won the lottery but their would be signs!

And yet they still put the most worthless tires they can find on it.

@jadonnoble5621

2 жыл бұрын

I would like to add that they also put those worthless anti scalping wheels on the machine as well. Ferris needs to invest in some good anti scalping wheels to off set the suspension! It’s so annoying because I own one and if I hit any pot hole in a yard the deck dips!

@ChiliblockTrading

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

I can only imagine the line of Messick's employees that formed waiting to test that baby out! 😜👍💪

about $32,000....... Really? On a 72inch mower?

It needs wing mowers on it, no need for 48hp to run a 72” deck, Perkins motor painted Cat yellow

@BlackHawkBallistic

2 жыл бұрын

Does Caterpillar own Perkins now? Even if they don't aren't Perkins engines good, I know older ones are good motors.

@paulmollise1856

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackHawkBallistic cat bought Perkins in 97, yeah there hood motors got there issues like every other engine “, Perkapillar

It needs wing mowers on it, no need for 48hp to run a 72” deck, probably Perkins motor painted Cat yellow, pretty heavy for soft yards lot of compaction

@BlondeWick

2 жыл бұрын

Evolution of the Perkins 404; you nailed it. Perkins even licenses said design from shibaura

@ddorn04

2 жыл бұрын

Cat owns both Perkins and Shibauru, they produce the engines in Griffin GA.

@BlondeWick

2 жыл бұрын

@@ddorn04 IHI owns Shibaura, I'm sure CATe probably owns the rights of distribution on said design in the US, but never owned Shibaura

Good morning Morgan's, 28 deg. in North Idaho. Nice pumpkin. 388 lbs

I have one. 2 hours in, pto rear drive belt broke . But other than that, I love it. So smooth 😎

My dealer which also has a lawncare business puts 5k hours every 3 years on their big dog diablo with the kawasaki fx850 by that point engine is worn out so that's all major thing they replace the hydro gear 5400 are still going strong

For some reason Cat's website states the C1.7 having only 40.2 HP. WTH? Still plenty though. I used to have a Dixie Chopper 72" with twin 20 HP Kohlers. It was nutty. Two keys. Two chokes. Two everything. Except for some reason it had four gas tanks and I think it held 12 gallons total. Each engine had a centrifugal clutch with a belt that went to a central jackshaft. Two other belts came off that and one went to the mower deck and the other went to the hydraulic pump. At idle nothing would work because the jackshaft was not spinning. It had digital tachometers so you could synchronize the full throttle RPMs of each engine for full power and efficiency. It would mow at 16 miles per hour but of course that was a waste because the cut quality was not good. It was really sort of crudely designed but it was a fun machine and would also do wheelies. I bought it broken (bad deck bearing and spindle) for a good deal and mowed with it for four or five years and sold it with the house.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see that

@TheSailingwoodworker

2 жыл бұрын

They also made a 50 HP Yanmar diesel version back then.

@chrisjmiller6

2 жыл бұрын

years ago my brother and I had Dixie Chopper demo with the twin Kohler's. It was called the "Suburban Turbine"

That's one fine machine 👍. It puts my gravely zero turn lawn mower to shame.

I am waiting on the next crop of heaver duty electric zero turns to hit the market. Just hope they cost way less than this bad boy.

You should be able to up the warrenty on the engine and add an additional 4 years to it. Under warrenty you can have a field service tech comming to your house to fix the issue.

Now that’s a real mower, I’d wouldn’t be Surprised if it can cut 4 foot tall hay!

That is nuts lol but cool as all get out you need to find a hay field and work the crap out of it

That mower is why you would refer to it as....."A Mower, Sir!"

That's awesome. Altho getting stuck with a exmark sucks. Can you guys imagine getting this stuck how will you get it out.

If I’m going to spend $30,000.00 on a lawnmower, it’s going to be something that can make me money on all types of terrain ... Ventrac 👍🏻

@SC-cb3vq

2 жыл бұрын

I get what you’re saying, you can’t beat ventracs versatility. But at the same time, this Ferris will running circles around a ventrac without breaking a sweat :)

@KSN2019

2 жыл бұрын

@@SC-cb3vq there's absolutely no reason this engine should be in the standard deck size. Over 90" then yes. This is the definition of wasting money. I highly doubt the sell many. Not to mention ferris mowers fall apart...

@SC-cb3vq

2 жыл бұрын

@@KSN2019 I agree that it’s overkill and a waste of money because of it. But it’s more like a flagship model than anything. An example of what can be done. I work at an equipment and mower dealership and of the used mowers we get on trade-in, the Ferrises are by far I better condition than a cub, toro, or deere would be with similar hours.

@indianaoutdoors4379

2 жыл бұрын

I know several large companies that buy the diesel ferris mowers. The fuel economy when mowing for 8-10 hours solid and sometimes being far away from the shop means a lot to them when they don't have to worry about fuel ups.

@SC-cb3vq

2 жыл бұрын

@@indianaoutdoors4379 wow that’s crazy. Didn’t know they could run that long.

Ok lets see ya do that on the front wheels. 😀

Great video Neil - chances are its either a Perkypillar (Cat owns Perkins) or a yellow Kubota.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

It's a perkins.

I have a ZD326 that I would keep any day over that Ferris. I do own 4 other Ferris mowers that are wonderful, a Z2, a Z3 and (2) ISX2300 that are great mowers but that Kubota will outlast all of them. The Kubota was only 13K too not 30K, geez.

A friend of mine bought a SCAG with a Kubota diesel….. sounds like a helicopter when mowing.

Holy crap $30,000 to cut grass! Can a commercial grass cutting company afford that?

@neilramseyer5348

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think. That's a lot of money. Municipalities maybe.

@BlackHawkBallistic

2 жыл бұрын

If they write it off somehow I'm sure they could

@neilramseyer5348

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackHawkBallistic everything is wrote off. But you need income to back that kind of money up

@paullambert2668

2 жыл бұрын

I would have assumed wealthy people with large properties, and a desire to have the most expensive of everything. If you're the kind of guy who flies a private jet, what's $32K for a mower?

@brianpoi5117

2 жыл бұрын

@@paullambert2668 Does a guy who flies his own jet mow his own yard?

I can do wheelies with my 25hp husky bit I'm pretty sure the hydrostats have lost a few steps from them;)

@mesanders1113

2 жыл бұрын

Same here with my ariens ikon52 wheelies all the time lol

Emissions system, that's a no for me. Sounds good, but why do you need that much HP?

Dadgum that’s a beast

My isx 40hp is way to heavy 1750lbs , this looks like a nightmare for leaving tire ruts for sure. I love mine for comfort, power and productivity however cut quality especially in lawns that are heavily mixed with crab grass is very poor. Zosia good, Bermuda good, fescue ok. There are days I want to scream as I have to double cut so often.

Waaayyy over the top. Something to see but who's gonna buy it? I would drive it to church and show it off.

So you spend 30k to purchase it from a dealer who’s not certified to do engine warranty work? Pain in the butt.

@indianaoutdoors4379

2 жыл бұрын

Call your local cat dealer and we will come to your door to work on it under warrenty for free. ( not including pm service).

To many things to cause problems! You really don't need a space shuttle to cut grass

That is freaking insane

Very heavy looking tear up the lawn? High center of gravity looks bad for hills. I would prefer spending money if they had 3 blades up front and two trailing behind to ensure nothing wasn't cut to the right height. Never going back over the same spot twice would save lots of time.

put it through a bahaya field grass height about 3-1/2 to 4 ft with the chute up

Other brands have used Perkins and even though it's a decent engine parts and service for those are hard to get and Perkins used to require any work be done at CAT dealers only... idk if that is still their policy or not.

@justinfoxbody

2 жыл бұрын

Perkins is owned by cat you can buy a bad boy zero turn with either a cat or a Perkins engine

Is it better than two $22k Exmark 72’s?

@claytonmoran9931

Жыл бұрын

Slowly lower the deck? So going over a stump will be slower than an Exmark? I always have my foot on the deck pedal. I mow country lawns.

Well ill never be able to afford a mower like that haha

This guy is kind of like the Doug demuro for the tractor world lol

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely slide some doug-isms in here and there.

@briansmith8405

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll start…Neil’s the type of guy who would take a new 30k mower and purposely hit pot holes.

Let onelonelyfarmer test it out with you in a Hey field maybe. Bet Wes can torture test it !!🤣🤣

@francineganmor9952

2 жыл бұрын

When he's not too busy cussing or staging a friend "drowning" in a flood .....

4-5K hours is if you do cavitation additives, change the oil every 100hrs use Shell Rotella T4 oil, & change the filters! Hopefully it’s air cooled, but if it’s not it’ll need the cavitation DCA4 additives. If it’s a mechanical diesel people are gonna be defeating the emissions on em after the warranty expires. The motor like you said should well go beyond the life of the mower, if it’s taken care of the motor will probably end up in some old garden tractor.

Makes me feel inadequate with my ZD1211

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a zd1211 last week. Don't worry.

@paullambert2668

2 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip Inadequacy loves company? :-)

2 zd1211 72" mowers with 0 emissions 1 perkins powered ferris with emissions Seems like a simple choice..

The weakest link in the build is the CAT Engine with their puny 2 year warranty.

@michaelbenoit248

2 жыл бұрын

They have that so you can delete the emissions if it’s got a DEF.

@indianaoutdoors4379

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbenoit248 it should have a doc only. No dpf or scr (the system that uses def). The warrenty should be able to be upgraded to an additional 4 years for an affordable price that will allow you to get a field service tech to the machine at no cost to you. The 2 year warrenty period was chosen by ferris so they could save the money upfront.

The problem with the mowers now isn't the power, it's the weight!!!!! These things are way to heavy for mowing...both of my scags are 1500lbs + each, getting them stuck involves a lot of time and stress to get them out. Plus they sink down so much on lawns causing ripples so to speak or tire ruts....I don't care about power as much as making them lighter!!

@pementerprises7706

2 жыл бұрын

This one is 1000lbs more lol

It's a Perkins engine!!

Don't under rate gasoline engine, I'm still using a Kohler K301 (12 hp) with a 44 inch deck and a heavy hydrostatic drive system to mow the lawn. It goes through anything, never uses oil, and always starts. It's just a little single cylinder cast iron engine, but it's around 45 years old now, and who knows how many hours. I think in all of that time, the engine has only been rebored once. I doubt anything has been done to the hydrostatic drive. The tires are even original, but they are showing their age.

@Senkino5o

2 жыл бұрын

It obviously doesn't get much use if it still has the original tires.

@arthurr8670

2 жыл бұрын

@@Senkino5o explain to me how a low traction on a soft terrain, not a driveway or pavement will wear the tires down. It's not like a car tire that will wear down from being on the road and trying to get the most traction out of them. These tires are harder than the ground now, slowing the wear down more. The worst issue is the dry rotting.

@DavidSmith-fr1uz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Senkino5o Not so. I have a 1973 Craftsman Suburban with a single cylinder cast ironed sleeved 15hp B&S when they made good smaller engines. I don't use it now but it was used for at least 30 years mowing around fields, ponds, and large lawns. Those tires are not even remotely worn out or even cracked. They just seem to be tougher than the tires on mowers made today.

I love Messick's and have learned allot for my tractor but a Wright ZXT is half the price twice the warranty of this mower.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

a box store cub cadet is 1/10th the price and triple the warranty :-)

Somebody should take three residential riding motors and bolt them all together like those old WW2 planes

Heard the all electric Gravely is 28k so this is a bargain. Should come with a air conditioned cab though.

I’m more concerned with being able to buy another SRS Z3X 61”. My dealer couldn’t even get me the 2nd one I ordered in May as of this post. It’s so frustrating that there is nothing available.

Would you buy a truck, say a Ram with a Cummins, from a dealership that couldn't work on the engine? Nope? Me neither!

Why would you spend that kind of money on something that dosen't have a very good warranty and have to take it to 2 different places to get warranty work done.

Can you add a front loader to that machine?🤔

Snapper and Ferris are the same mower. Been in this business for 26 years. Terrible wire harness . Great cutting deck.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

... and simplicity, we sell all 3. Can't say I've heard the wiring comment before.

I would buy it just for the cat in it

Have they started a dirt track racing class? They wouldn't have built it if there are no buyers.

This man gives me Doug Demuro vibes.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

Quirks and features.

No thanks I’ll stay with my 52” cub cadet and 48” bad boy

Does it have built-in mulch kit or offer it as an option?

@boomer9341

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is an add-on you can buy

How much

Great machine from a former milking machine company...

is the blade speed faster that the Kubota? Do you have one for sale? how do you get under the deck?

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

The entire industry of commercial mowers all tops out a the same blade speed. Approx 18,000 feet\min.

@davidwagner7211

2 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip So the real issue is that Kubota is not shipping any thing here for sale, do you have that mower for sale? also what is the weight difference on a ZD331 Vs it?

@davidwagner7211

2 жыл бұрын

or kubota is not selling any thing with out a ? also the blade speed on my grass hoper is not the same as the 331

Now add some accessories like a harley rake or a blade and you may help justify the price.

Yep hit the bumps and do this in a yard, can you imagine how the yard will look

@Dave-ei7kk

18 күн бұрын

I have a bumpy yard and just bought a Ferris ISX2200 to save my back. I’m amazed at how well it cuts while traveling through the whoops. Much better than I expected.

Cool mower. Over priced? Yes

I live in Dillsburg and I have plenty of spots to put it to the test. Hit me up and bring it over.

@byronrobinson8633

2 жыл бұрын

Hey do you have the Kabota dingo for sale up there? I was going to get the bobcat mt 85 from best line equipment but I’ve called twice to talk to sales man and I haven’t got a call back. For some reason their sales man works from his truck and not the store. So I will see if my money is good somewhere else? I need it for my landscaping business. Also maybe a few attachments too.

@jerva245

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronrobinson8633 " KUBOTA"

@byronrobinson8633

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerva245 kabota.

@jerva245

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronrobinson8633 if you wanna spell it that way, there's no law against it.. 😄😄😄

@byronrobinson8633

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerva245 now you’re thinking.

So this thing doesn't have a throttle stick? Why not just have some basic RPM, MPH, temperature, oil pressure, and fuel gauges instead of a clumsy digital control panel

Neil you watch too many Doug reviews lol

I'm always going to worry about the emissions system, since they're expensive to fix and only exist due to government mandate.

@Dave-ei7kk

18 күн бұрын

You’re kidding, right? The reason those emission systems exist is emissions. That is also the reason the government agency charged with insuring we have reasonably clean air to breathe regulates them.

Another perkapiller

@poppafixit

2 жыл бұрын

LOL……..

The reason they last so long is because there maxed out at 2500 rpm so there barely even working to motor

How much a house of course!

2600lbs 😮

4-5,000hrs? ANY commercial Vtwin will do that eaisly.

The ZD Kubota mowers have a better wet disc PTO clutch system. Electric clutches are not as good

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

This is true. The Kubota has that advantage on virtually every other mower.

@blessed7fold

2 жыл бұрын

@@MessicksEquip Except they don't meet industry standard by providing demos of them on customer properties. What's Kubota hiding?

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

@@blessed7fold You'll find less and less of that any more. Quite simply, dealers don't make enough money selling mowers to put the time in on demo's. When we do them anymore, it's usually with the understanding that the machine does not come back if it performs in the ways we say it will.

I want it lol

Def required?

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

Not under 75 hp

You Donna come fest it I have a field that hasn't been mowed in over 2 years you are welcome to

Dose any company make zero turn with a cab?

@claytonkeeney8911

2 жыл бұрын

Ive seen a ferris is3200 with a cab, also think you can get a toro

@KubotaL4060

2 жыл бұрын

I did see am aftermarket cab with AC for the Kubota zd1211 mower. It seemed well done, but I could never operate with a cab in the way.

@keithhylton4631

2 жыл бұрын

@@KubotaL4060 I think u can.buy them with a factory installed cab now

i thought it was a butane bottle

I love Ferris mowers but, 48hp?? I have a 33hp Ferris IS5000 and it runs through nearly anything you'd want a mower to go through and more . I don't know what kind of lawn where you would need 48hp.

@MessicksEquip

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is more of a "because we can" than any real need.

Overkill for a traditional zero turn but however I can see use for this if you had a high speed rough cut mower like Altoz definitely a lot more useful in such an application

He lost me the moment he said emissions I can get a big block vanguard 45hp and no problem plus it's also has great fuel economy

waiting for the tesla model

I’ll stick with toro. Ferris looks like a ground scalping machine.

@DavidSmith-fr1uz

2 жыл бұрын

Not so. The deck is separate from the sprung part of the machine which includes the operator station.

@freedomisntfree_44

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t like them and many many zero turns are guy. Toro has a separate platform that’s way more comfortable