This looks like, Mercedes vs Williams

@ipo7596

4 жыл бұрын

Or all teams vs mclaren honda 2018 HAHA

@mobyhuge4346

4 жыл бұрын

@@ipo7596 2018 ain't that slow, 2015 maybe

@jackmagnell

4 жыл бұрын

Williams would smoke the IndyCar here too

@jmg7157

4 жыл бұрын

Even worse

@Bahiti-wv7yh

3 жыл бұрын

@@ipo7596 2018 wasn’t the slowest but still wasn’t quick, 2019 and 2020 they have been quick, 2020 they finished 3rd in the constructors. Williams have been the slowest since 2017

This was a fun video and most likely fairly accurate. The two cars are very different, of course. The F1 Ferrari should have just under 1000HP, while the Indy car has 750. Both cars weigh about the same, while the brakes on the Ferrari are in a different league. Total budget for the Indy Car is $7 - $10 M per season, which includes about 15 - 20 team members. The F1 Ferrari has an annual budget of approximately $250M (per car) and a staff of 500, which puts things into perspective.

@UndeadTom1

6 жыл бұрын

Scrolled to far for somebody who is talking real facts and not just trash

@brodieben1

6 жыл бұрын

Key West Chris Rehm Plus ferrari gets like 100 million a year from f1 before the season even starts because they are grandfathered in.being the team with the longest consecutive time in f1.Why do they still have to charge 3 and 400,00 for their cars is beyond me.I would take a caterham and pocket the rest.

@gaycha6589

6 жыл бұрын

Tis the law of diminishing returns for sure. F1 is the zenith both fiscally and in performance. Plus I reckon and F1 could be quite easily configured to do ovals and beat Indy cars such is their aero management (not just downforce) and of course power advantage. Have to bring back refuelling...

@yaboismalls7573

5 жыл бұрын

Actually indy cars weigh less like way less than f1 cars and have about 800bhp

@realitychecks2920

5 жыл бұрын

Key West Chris Rehm they don’t weigh the same

Holy crap, it was half way over before I realized it was a game lol

@jesperhammarlund300

5 жыл бұрын

then u need to fix your eyes

@Ilmarintarina

5 жыл бұрын

Same :D

@doesntmatter8873

5 жыл бұрын

Wow.... and you are allowed to be unsupervised?

@aaronmontague2891

4 жыл бұрын

How

@giorgiobrivati8466

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Not really fair, American drivers are still practicing turning right on a race track.....

@roryforham

6 жыл бұрын

ovals are without a doubt the hardest tracks to race at hardly any down force average speed is 220mph youve got cars either side of you a bloke on the radio saying how far away they are. alonso engineer at the 500 said that the qualy laps will be the hardest and scariest laps you have ever done in a racing car. plus the 500 is miles better than watching any f1 race i like both you get lots of proper overtakes not stupid drs go faster overtakes

@apocalypticweasel9078

6 жыл бұрын

PMSL

@Aleph1337

6 жыл бұрын

roryforham no

@kinggoten

6 жыл бұрын

+roryforham no just no

@kuba_ota5154

6 жыл бұрын

roryforham actually think about what you just said

What makes a difference is the downforce load which is too much higher in the F1 car. Put the two cars in an oval track and you have the opposite results.

The key is; this is MONZA. And F1 track. Put the cars on the Indy tri-oval & the F! car will max out at 185, while the Indy car hits 225 and just walks away.

@pedroakira7987

3 жыл бұрын

A Formula Top Speed ​​is much higher than 185 Miles, you're talking shit

@user-kf5cg6ln3l

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedroakira7987 Indy easily reaches 230+ mph not even having to use 6th gear. Also the cars last for 500 miles. An F1 car could only dream of being that reliable. He’s not talking shit, just spitting facts.

@zavodszkiabel7919

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-kf5cg6ln3l lmao each F1 car has 4 engines for the whole season so 6-7 races for an engine. A single race weekend with 3 FP sessions and a quali with the race takes up around 700 kilometers so 400-ish miles, that´s just a single weekend. As for top speed F1 cars max out at 230MPH altough that´s with circuit gear ratios, if they were to race on ovals longer gears would be used.

Back in the 1990's I think it was Indycar and F1 shared the same circuit in their racing calendar, it was Canada. Back then the F1 did a lap in the 1:16's and the Indycar in the 1"19's. It is unfair to try and compare each vehicle as they are purpose built for a different style of racing. Indycar is predominately oval racing and F1 circuit racing. To be fair a comparison should also be done on an oval circuit to see how the Indycar then shapes up.

@freddyprante1906

6 жыл бұрын

The rules shape the car

@wannabef2

6 жыл бұрын

Correct Freddy....that is what I pretty much said :)

@marcosagener5766

5 жыл бұрын

There are more street and road races on the IndyCar calendar than oval races.

@VaporpireWinkleschmidt

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say 5/17 is predominantly oval racing. It comes down to the cars being designed to be run at a lower cost around tracks that are not as smooth as tracks F1 runs on.

I have to admit, I watched this thing for a full minute before I realized it wasn't real. I was silently contemplated the pros and cons of F1 vs Indy...then took a closer look and was like...WTF? These driving sims are getting really good.

Shall we race the Indycar against 2017 McLaren Honda ?

@aochannel0000

6 жыл бұрын

gp2 engine!

@russianbubbawallace8681

6 жыл бұрын

At least in Indycar Honda can win

@gavlee6786

6 жыл бұрын

didn’t know indicars could turn right 😂

@russianbubbawallace8681

6 жыл бұрын

Gavino Paulio the indycar schedule only has 5 oval races dumbass. Look at the schedule right now

@gavlee6786

6 жыл бұрын

ThatoneElliottfan9 cheer up grumpy pants. Ever heard of banter.

It's the downforce. Modern F1 cars have ludicrous amounts of downforce. And this is Monza, a speed track where downforce is not that important. Run a few laps on a track with lots of medium-speed corners and the F1 car will utterly crush the Indycar.

@danineira366

6 жыл бұрын

Tim Suetens the f1 car did crush the Indy CAD

What mod is that? The IndyCar one)

Let's not forget that indy cars have a "road course" configuration with alot less Bhp than an F1 car around 600-700 If I remember correctly while modern F1 cars are pushing 1000

This comparison isn't realistic. And many comments are, umm, poorly informed. These are two VERY different formulae - different rules cover every aspect of the cars other than, perhaps, they have to have four wheels. The Indycar is DELIBERATELY constrained in many of both expensive and non-expensive areas (engine, chassis, brakes, tires, fuel...). The F1 car is also, but differently, constrained. So you will get different results (no shit Sherlock!). To claim F1 car superior is, in a way, true; due to the rules (and for some teams due to massive budgets, and unfair payments to a certain red car). A false comparison. (My extremely humble opinion)

@jonjones3958

6 жыл бұрын

MrStig691 he doesn't sound bitter at all. That was as objective an opinion as you can get.

@mocabrera

6 жыл бұрын

MrStig691 F1 has better cars, but has better races? We watch races.

@jhock2781

6 жыл бұрын

MrStig691, F1 is cool if all you care about is some misguided loyalty to some car manufacturer. If you were actually a racing fan, you'd understand the appeal of Indycar.

If only F1 races were are predictably entertaining as IndyCar road/street courses. Sometimes they are fun, and sometimes they're not (see Canada 2018). Also, I would like to see the same thing with an LMP1 car in the mix.

Stock Car Brasil VS Um Nascar Monster Energy Cup Series

hahahaha the race was officially after the initial acceleration....

who was here to see the comment war?

Who's sponsorship is the Green monza?

It's okay, F1 can have a faster car, IndyCar can have passing.

@alfredrnstrand2415

5 жыл бұрын

F1 has right turns though

@SeekerLancer

5 жыл бұрын

@@alfredrnstrand2415 So does IndyCar... It's a dumb comparison anyway.

@dontbetonit813

5 жыл бұрын

Only because if some bozo in the back who isn't in contention gets in an accident and you bunch them up.

@ragingagent5040

3 жыл бұрын

*distant oof*

1 mill views, dude that's awesome!!!

Putiz até metade da volta achei que fosse real... Video game está foda msm e eu velho... Kkk

Exactly how I imagined it would be.

what mod of indycar is used?

a RL test would be nice

I remember Pablo Montoya talking about the differences and the most impressive was circuit lap times between the two cars, 20 to 30 seconds a lap difference in the F1s favour but the 2 cars are built to different racing environments so its a bit like comparing apple's and oranges....

@EugVR6

3 жыл бұрын

@Ground Hog Go email Montoya and tell him, you know more about those two cars than he does.

Guys this is a video game

@thesilentwarrior6769

6 жыл бұрын

exiledrabbit. Its a simulation to simulate real life.😩

@JN-ug5ky

6 жыл бұрын

exiledrabbit REALLY?!

@ArtullosDJS

6 жыл бұрын

you don't say?!??

@grahamwoloski3174

6 жыл бұрын

almost hard to tell in the first few seconds.

@wil61

6 жыл бұрын

... And Indy STILL looks more exciting! :)

Does anyone know how to make to AI cats race and just spectate in asseto corsa

I've read the comments and would just like to add that the fastest race ever run on a closed course was won by Sam Hornish Jr. in a Chevworth powered Dallara averaging 207.151 mph (333.306 km/h) over 400 miles (643.6 km) in 2003 at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana California. Until F1 can top this they can take their "technology" and stick it where the sun won't shine.........

That DW12 in this vid is a year old too. 2018 indy they did away with all of that cladded crap. I doubt the results of a race like this would be much different though. Indy is more geared for sustaining top speeds for several hours on end as opposed to circuit racing.

@derbigpr500

6 жыл бұрын

Indy has more road races in the calendar than ovals, so no, it's not designed more for sustaining top speeds on ovals, since it does that far less than race on regular tracks.

@richarddobson3138

3 жыл бұрын

@@derbigpr500 Indy is totally geared for Ovals and inparticular 1 oval..Would you like Roger Penske to tell you so?? Ive heard him say it 500 times..The race that pays the Bill's for the entire series, The Indy 500 &The Indianapolis Motor Speedway...They are not geared at all for road courses... They have a higher and much longer sustained top speed.. Despite the fact they run on many road Courses, only 1 event in the series matters...IndyCar would destroy F1 at Indianapolis and even Fernando Alonso says so and he has said it repeatedly...Two totally different types of machines for totally different fan bases...Today 08/15/2020 many IndyCars qualified at IMS over 231mpg... Only 1 Formula 1 car in history has officially went 231 and that was at Monza by Juan Pablo Montoya..The official speed record for IndyCar is almost 257 mph by Paul Tracy at Michigan International Speedway..F1 would always win on a road course..IndyCar would always win on an Oval...I'm not interested in what could be possible with modifications..Anything is possible with both series with rule changes..But the fact is The Indianapolis 500 has the highest qualifying and race speeds of any event in the world..No F1 race comes close to it...Not in Speed, not in history,( 500 is older than Lemans, Monza, Monaco.) And not in the number of paying fans who buy a ticket.... FACT!!! I don't want to hear about what might be if we do this or that to the car..You don't and I'm not speculating...We are talking about what is...

@user-kf5cg6ln3l

3 жыл бұрын

@@richarddobson3138 Spot on

@bjs7442

2 жыл бұрын

@@richarddobson3138 Is top speed everything? I find it boring. The machines arent for different fan bases they are machines built for different purposes and with different budgets. F1 is a constructors championship. Road going cars go faster given enough time to get their. Oh the oldest continuous running motor racing event is Shelsey Walsh started in 1905 and is 10 miles from where I live and the oldest purpose made racing circuit and it also has banked turns is Brooklands. Also from 1950-1960 the Indianapolis 500 was an F1 event.

@richarddobson3138

2 жыл бұрын

@@bjs7442 No sir, it's not everything and I never said it was...You are missing the point...The point of this video was to prove F1 was faster...My point with the top speed is that F1 is not faster...That's all.. Now boring to me is slower mostly single file racing which is what F1 mostly is.. .Exciting to me is a plethora of cars entering an almost completely flat turn side be side at 240mph surrounded by concrete walls... Television has never given the Indianapolis 500 justice.. The enormity, scope, speed, and feel of the event is not transmitted well on Television and can be boring on TV. I would advise everyone to attend it once in their life. The same goes for F1...I do not feel TV gives it justice either

What about part 2 on an IndyCar track??

took me like a minute to realise this was a video game

People that think Indycars only turn left are the same people who think the earth is flat.

do Indy cars still have to use iron disc brakes? I know they used to. Back when Nigel Mansell went to race in Indy car in 1993 one of the things he talked about as being a huge difference was the braking power of a F1 car compared to the Indy car, I stopped watching F1 when they bought in hybrid engines and I haven't watched Indy racing for about 10 years but if Indy cars still have to run iron discs and not carbon fibre then that is a serious advantage to the F1 car right of the bat, not to mention the F1 car weighs considerably less as well.

@nsummy

6 жыл бұрын

www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/how-pfc-stepped-up-braking-performance-for-2018-indycar-976865/

Isn't that a device for hitching a plough on the back of the green one?..virtual plough.

Next...Ferrari F1 2018 vs Shopping Trolley. This time it will be closer!

@richardhobbs7360

4 жыл бұрын

John Doe specially with Ferrari’s strategy Trolley might actually win Obviously only if it’s from Asda Tesco and Sainsbury’s just on the same level

@joromsimpson4911

4 жыл бұрын

@@richardhobbs7360 shopping trolley has better straight line speed then the 2020 Ferrari f1 car

A more concrete example of the difference in lap times would be the one or two times that F1 and Indy cars raced at Montreal with the same track layout in the same season. I m too lazy to look it up but iirc the time difference was about 12 seconds which is totally massive at that level of competition.

@evodude919

6 жыл бұрын

In the early 2000's while racing on the same circuit, there was about a 6 second difference between the fastest F1 laps and fastest Champ Car laps.

@trappenweisseguy27

6 жыл бұрын

I’ll take your word for it. I knew it was either 7.5 or 12 seconds.

@91Redmist

6 жыл бұрын

6 seconds it was. An early 2000s Minardi would have outpaced a top end Champ Car by about a second.

@andrewtaylor7568

6 жыл бұрын

2002 races: F1 pole position 1:12.8 champ car pole position 1:18.9 Same layout, similar weather conditions.

@nsummy

6 жыл бұрын

True but obviously other mitigating factors: The champ cars weighed 27% more than than the F1 cars and used different tires.

Caraca que massa !!!! Como vc consegui ?

lol, it took me a lil while to see this was a computer game, nice gfx :)

Where i Chan Download this

Esta comparação está distorcida Jow, provavelmente o IndyCar teria feito suas modificações para Monza, sendo que, nas provas normais da Indy eles chegam a 370 e até passa dos 400/hora na situação.

Indy cars are simply built for oval tracks. Its heavier, tyres are bigger, less engine power because obviously on an oval its not needed unless you're looking to have your car fly once you tap something... Comparing the 2 VERY different cars really isn't even worth it. Can't even say that one is better than the other.

I think it would be a much closer contest if the present day Indycar went up against an F1 car from the 2008 season.

@FlashTVItalia

4 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

power to weight ratio will not be denied.

yes, yes, but the indy doesn't sound like my vacuum cleaner

This pretty accurate. It's not even funny how fast the F1 is over the Indy

With the hundreds of millions that is spent to develop those f1 cars compared to tens of millions on indycars, what did you expect. But with all that money, f1 is left in the dust when it comes to indycar competition and RACING!

Thought i would see the real thing instead of a recording of the game :(

significant difference in downforce setup between the two

It would be great to see something like this in real life. I bet Indycar would pull the license of any team that tried it.

It took me far too long to realise this is a game.

American racing cars technology is at least 10 years behind F1. You also can see the quality and performance gap on American Vs European passenger cars ..

It's nice to see an F1 car beat the Indy but.... not a fair comparison. Indy is designed more for top-speed. So the Gearbox-ratios are set accordingly. Perhaps less drag (less Wing "angle-of-attack) because downforce is of less concequence since most corners on ovals are banked. An F1 car can redline. But when slowing down for cornerd engine-revs drop below the redline. However, I think that, indeed, F1-drivetrains have tougher time during a race because of constantly up/down-shifting. Same goes for brakes. Although, constantly being at topspeed also stressed the drivetrain.

Was für tolle Lifeaufnahmen. Wow

Indycar driver: "F*** you Terrence! F*** you and your 3rd ball!"

Laugh all you want but which series has better racing,which series has more than 3 drivers who can win?

I love both Formula One and Indycar. And even though a F1 car can smoke an Indycar on a road circuit, it's the other way around on an oval course like Indianapolis. Indycars routinely reach 230-235 mph on the long straights.

It would be interesting to see how much quicker the Indycar could be in a low downforce set up. I doubt it would be quicker than any current F1 car in any set up. The only option, for me, is to run both cars in a low downforce sim on an oval.. F1 rules...

@niweshlekhak9646

6 жыл бұрын

Mr_Penna son and what about all the engine restriction rule f1 engine manufacturers have to follow

@mr_pennason5329

6 жыл бұрын

Niwesh Lekhak. What about them?? Indycar has a set of ebgine rules too!

which game is this ?

please, make indycar vs old f1 cars (1996/1997)

Indycar: we have a 2.2Liter twin turbo v6 producing ~700hp@10500-12000 F1: hold my beer.. 1.6Liter turbocharged v6 hybrid power unit producing 900hp@10500-12000rpm

@bloqk16

5 жыл бұрын

And also consider the weight differences . . . 735 kilos for Indycar . . . and for F1 - 702 kilos. But, in doing a search on the 'web, there seems to be some published variations on the minimum weight in F1.

There is no competition in a Circuit with corners. Everyone knows an F1 car will demolish any Indy Car. The real question is Oval Circuit, can F1 cars beat an Indy car in multiple laps around an oval Circuit

I'd like to see F1 vs Indy Cart Indianapolis speedway

@scotwest6681

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Barnes sure, just extend the gear ratios on the F1 car and flatten the wings and it'll reach 245mph no problem maybe more

@josephbarnes3099

6 жыл бұрын

An F1 engine couldn't handle the strain, plus the aerodynamics is wrong

@scotwest6681

6 жыл бұрын

What do you mean the aero is wrong?? I said flatten the wings out to reduce drag and... A fuck it its not worth it...

@thesilentwarrior6769

6 жыл бұрын

F1 fucking Indy cars all night long, Cum shot .😁

@bmwrider8659

6 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. F1 engines must last six racing events as in six weekends of practice, qualifying and the race. I could fill a library with what you don't know about F1.

Wow! Is that real-time rendering or a months-in-a-cluster scripted animation?

Now to be fair, put a speedway set up on an Indy car and have it versus an F1 car at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway... F1 car isn't ever going to sniff 235+ into turn one and keep that speed through the short shute without ending up into the wall. Seriously, this is comparing apples to oranges.

This is not fair race. Let’s have a real race on Indianapolis 500 oval track. That’s a man’s race speed over 220mph. And, see who wins. No contest

Took me about a minute to figure out that it is a video game. Impressive

@nuckels188

6 жыл бұрын

Ronny Diehl i want this game whatever it is

One is a spec series and one is a manufacturers' championship.

F1 vs F-Zero?

F1 cars get set up for whatever track they race on next..so if u set a F1 car to a indy circuit track that indy car aint gunna smell that F1 car till he laps him hehe..fact 😂

@Ares14

5 жыл бұрын

Don't IndyCars have a higher top speed though? I thought they were designed for sustaining high speeds on oval tracks...

@thomashanson6603

4 жыл бұрын

Indy cars have crazy high top speeds on ovals. I would be curious to see what sort of speeds an f1 car could do with a very low downforce setup. I think the IndyCar would probably still beat it on a track like Daytona but I don't know

i thought i was watching a footage. Damn graphics

@thatonenigeriansformula

3 жыл бұрын

you are a read that is obviously a game

for a second there i taught that was real FX getting more real by the year

@thatonenigeriansformula

3 жыл бұрын

you must b visually impaired i feel bad for you

Both are mods which mean the results aren't as accurate however regardless an F1 would still come on top

wat game is?

Because weight is heavy, an Indy car thinks that it is natural to turn out such.

I'm an Aussie, bring back the CHAMP CARS !!!!!

Racing is about the competition not how fast the cars are. IndyCar could make the cars as fast as F1 cars but they care about the race being interested not a follow the leader fest.

I'm an F1 fan and would like to see the comparisons for real, they are obviously different cars for different tracks and for doing things at different speeds! F1 is all about cornering speed and nothing we have can corner faster than an F1 car but Indy cars are all about flat out speed constantly, about 200/220 mph, an F1 can hit these speeds but if it was to do it for 90% of a race they would be going through a lot of engines because they are not designed to do that. Obviously this is a computer game and can not be used as any true reference

@sixmile2360

5 жыл бұрын

I am not sure I get why people get so worked up when comparing F1 to Indy Car. Indy Cars are a cost contained near spec series that requires a nice balance of talent to be a winner. But at the end of the day they are slower than a formula one car. It's not an insult. It's just a fact. I am a dedicated Indy Car fan but also like F1. I have been lucky enough to see F1 at Detroit, the Glen (yes i am old) Spa, Silverstone and Monza. They are amazing cars. But Indy cars are also incredible for a fraction of the cost and only a few seconds a lap.

Play Station?

impossible to do F1 vs INDYCAR competition any F1 team the pit stop is 2.7 sec, speed 380/400 km / h, every Sunday a different track in the world, the Indycar grand prix is ​​32.6% of the billionaire F1 teams

Accurate video, proving racing is just math. One thing though, no F1 car could complete Indy distance at wide open throttle averaging 225mph (which they can't do in the first place) for 500 miles. They'd explode.

What video game is that? Forza? F1? It's beautiful; I want it.

@giovannibettini2246

6 жыл бұрын

assetto corsa, buy only if u have a wheel

@JabclickCoUk

6 жыл бұрын

Grand theft auto 11

Wtf aerodynamic is that on the IndyCar it's monstrous

Indy cars can turn right???

On a street circuit or road course, the F1 car obviously has a huge advantage, though I seriously doubt the one lap gap would be nearly that large. However, anyone on here who seriously believes that at Indianapolis or Pocono, with the Indycar in speedway aero trim, the F1 car could compete with the Indycar is breathing helium. No way in hell is an F1 car ever going to do 4 consecutive laps at 230+ mph on any oval. Even Indy. Two totally different beasts built for two totally different arenas. Thats it. Period.

Would love to see them match up on an oval... flat out speed throughout, F1 car still probably will hold its own if not win.

@afc-razor-8489

5 жыл бұрын

Jarod Miller it would win because even tho it's a tad slower the gear changing is much much faster in f1, only chance a indie would have is if they stick a f1 Williams car on the track lol.

@zabaleta66

3 жыл бұрын

Only for the first couple of laps....F1 cars have too much downforce, even those configured for faster courses like Monza. Indycar would soon wheel it in and keep going at full tilt for the duration. F1 engine would likely crack.

@richarddobson3138

2 жыл бұрын

IndyCar would pass F1 car by end of the first lap at Indianapolis and never look back...Top sustained IndyCar speeds are 15-30 mph faster than F1 and Indy 500 is ran on top sustained speed all dsy... IndyCar would destroy F1 on an Oval

Everyone should know that F1 car are faster because of the specs and rules of the two types, no surprise here , even going back to the 1970s , Fi was insane !!!

Wow, these computer game graphics are getting more and more impressive.

A f1 car is way to advance nowadays for a indie car, the corner speed in a f1 is neck snapping g force where as a indie car is like dragging a weight around the corner, at top speed on a long straight like Baku a indie car would reach a higher speed off 230+mph but a f1 car is just so much faster through the gears to go at 210-220mph, so by the time the indie car is at top speed the f1 car is already at turn 2. F1 cars look better to indie cars look to fat and bulky. F1 cars are basically a airplane on wheels now.

I thought this was real till I saw the comments. The future is now

what a difference, had no idea, there was such a margin,

ps 4?

IndyCar is spec racing. There is no reason to try to make the cars faster.

Indy cars have higher top speed but f1 cars have better downforce and acceleration, so on tracks like monza the f1 wins, on oval tracks the Indy car will win almost every time, there very different cars

At least IndyCars don't have the halo hurrr durrr This comments section is horrendous.

@galaxel1494

4 жыл бұрын

James Branstetter so it’s better with a broken neck?

The 2020 f1 ferrari drives like the indy car😀

Which game? Pls tell someone

lets build an F1 car on an Indy car budget

Acho que se fosse real ,sei não... Ferrari pode até ganhar , más seria mais apertado.depende tbem dos pilotos

Try this comparison on a tighter, technical circuit. Too many point and squirt straights at Monza.😂

So much bodywork on that Indycar not making it any faster.