Ferrari 599 GTO vs Ferrari F12 tdf - Should you buy both?

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In this video we compare Ferrari’s Legendary Lightweight GT’s, the Ferrari 599 GTO and the Ferrari F12 tdf, taking an in-depth look at the market, heritage and passion that surround these iconic cars.
Take a look at the stunning 2011 Ferrari 599 GTO featured in the video here:
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Ferrari 599 GTO:
G.T.O. - Gran Turismo Omologato. The 599 GTO is the third Ferrari to wear this sacred three letter badge after the legendary 250 GTO and 288 GTO. Though some critics argue that the 599 GTO is not a real homologated thoroughbred race car for the road like the 250 and 288 GTO; however the 599 GTO is actually a road legal version of the 599 XX track car. It isn’t just a special edition Ferrari with lashings of fancy cosmetic Carbon Fibre options and a louder exhaust.
The 599 GTO carries over various high-tech technologies from the XX program including a reworked 6.0L V12 engine that produces 671 bhp and 457 lb ft of torque. This mighty 6.0L V12 engine previously seen in the Enzo hypercar, now has 12% increased efficiency over the standard 599 GTB. The 599 GTB which the 599 GTO was based on produced 612 bhp and 448 lb ft of torque. Weight reduction was also another aspect that made the 599 GTO so special, weighing in at 100kg less than the GTB at 1,605kg.
Other highlights include the six into one exhaust manifold and new intake which makes the 599 GTO one of the best sounding cars ever made. The radical weight saving measures are more evident as soon as you step inside the cabin. With bare carbon fibre panels, Alcantara and 3D fabric materials; the GTO feels raw and unfiltered. Lapping Ferrari’s Fiorano test track faster than an Enzo, the 599 GTO is undoubtedly one of the best track cars ever made. Make no mistake, the 599 absolutely deserves the GTO badge.
Ferrari F12tdf:
This exquisite 1 of 799 Ferrari is named after the Tour de France, not the cycling kind, but a road race held in France which Ferrari dominated during the 50’s and 60’s. The F12tdf is based on the standard F12 Berlinetta except now Ferrari have track focused it and turned every aspect up to 11. Power from the outrageous 6.3L V12, which now revs to 8,900rpm, has been increased to 769bhp with the use of race-spec engine parts and the F1 DCT gearbox revised to give 30% quicker up shifts and 40% quicker down shifts. The TDF also features far more menacing functional aerodynamics including a larger active-aero splitter and the distinctive ‘Aerobridge’ features, just behind the front wheels, designed to increase downforce and force the car on to the track. Add this to the liberal use of carbon fibre and weight saving trickery throughout, to achieve a 110kg weight saving over the standard F12, and it really is no surprise that this is the second fastest road legal Ferrari to ever lap the infamous Fiorano test track, just 1.3 seconds behind the LaFerrari! Overall the F12tdf is a naturally aspirated triumph and its exclusivity makes it a highly significant and collectible modern Ferrari.
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  • @Maurice_Moss
    @Maurice_Moss4 жыл бұрын

    599 GTO for me. I've always loved how elegant the 599s look, something I think is missing from modern Ferrari's.

  • @alexkoefman

    @alexkoefman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot. On.

  • @VerangaF430

    @VerangaF430

    3 жыл бұрын

    100% agree, Its gotta very raw v12 sound. Even better sounding than the Enzo even though its the same engine in my opinion.

  • @noelht1

    @noelht1

    Ай бұрын

    Looks like a futuristic modern version of the 612 Scaglietti that it replaced. But far superior car all around.

  • @randomsurfer3963
    @randomsurfer39634 жыл бұрын

    Two proper dream cars, great comparison. I might be in a minority here, but given a choice, I would prefer the 599 GTO, a little more subtle in my eyes.

  • @guuslombarts9004

    @guuslombarts9004

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love the tdf but yeah, GTO all the way for me. Even though I’d prefer the ‘normal’ F12 over the standard 599

  • @888interlagos4

    @888interlagos4

    4 жыл бұрын

    tdf all day long

  • @audimetallica

    @audimetallica

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me to... We have a big warehouse storage for rich People’s cars 10min from my adress.. They have a red 599 GTO there to.. I can send it to you? They have around 100 cars of most brands. Its called “My Garage” . Here in Denmark 😎🇩🇰🌎

  • @jonathanrath3036
    @jonathanrath30364 жыл бұрын

    These reviews are pretty epic. Market here in California: GTO ~$600-700k and TDF $1-1.1M.

  • @mattsomeonewithansrt3948
    @mattsomeonewithansrt39484 жыл бұрын

    I always loved the TDF. I actually really like the super fast too. But that GTO with those options and wheels. That car is a gem

  • @pcar928fan
    @pcar928fan4 жыл бұрын

    Buy the GTO and with the money you save vs the tdf then buy an 812 to drive daily!

  • @jeebus2121
    @jeebus21214 жыл бұрын

    The 599 GTO gets my pick; I've always found the TDF to be rather ridiculous looking. It strikes me as having a factory Veilside body kit.

  • @cowboy2451
    @cowboy24514 жыл бұрын

    599 GTO for me!

  • @FrostedSeagull

    @FrostedSeagull

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cowboy, I'm going to be honest. I didn't like the 599 GTO and thought it did NOT deserve the GTO mantle. However . . . I saw one for real and was blown away. The speed and noise were unbelievable. Owners Story - owner really wanted a LaFerrari ( he couldn't afford one ... ha ha ha) and then he wanted a TDF. Expensive and a long wait. His mechanic told him about a desperate to sell F12 Berlinetta. He tried it and loved it. He was then told about the 599 GTO! He couldn't believe that one, they existed in Australia and two, were even remotely affordable. That great mechanic of his said " every one wants a 812 Superfast, an 812 Spyder, the TFD . . . " so the price has temporarily gone down. HE purchased the all black rhd 599 GTO. He wasn't disappointed

  • @user-wf2wi5wc2k
    @user-wf2wi5wc2k4 жыл бұрын

    "When the market recovers" Covid19: Hold my beer.

  • @lazziebardakos2956
    @lazziebardakos29563 жыл бұрын

    F12tdf for me. As always, another impressive video

  • @Mannix21
    @Mannix214 жыл бұрын

    2 of the greatest cars back again ....... thank you romans

  • @kenbork
    @kenbork4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr Jaconelli that was an epic review, all the informations about those beautiful cars we have got thanks to you especially. That was the clearest and most refine interview i have ever watched. Unfurtonatelly i cannot able buy those cars but i subbed the channel. So thank you for that video and see you soon in another epic review.

  • @eeezzy
    @eeezzy4 жыл бұрын

    Very good thank you. I'm fast becoming a fan of your videos. Cheers.

  • @hjc355
    @hjc3554 жыл бұрын

    Great content as always. 👍🏻

  • @garydilbeck8882
    @garydilbeck88824 жыл бұрын

    I just subscribed so forgive my lack of history with your channel. Please more Porsche. This is great to watch and you do a very in-depth review but let’s face it. Few of us can enjoy these cars in more real life. It’s true that this is just my opinion, but Porsche offers a more obtainable experience for the ROW. Well done and I will keep watching. Take care.

  • @joestrickland5153
    @joestrickland51534 жыл бұрын

    Great thorough video 👍 specs ,performance , value

  • @christophernicol4762
    @christophernicol47624 жыл бұрын

    This is a video with a real purpose and usefulness. I love Ferraris but am utterly confused by their increasingly myriad models. This sorted out the differences of at least 2 of them. Thanks for this highly informative piece.

  • @gerodimaria1549
    @gerodimaria15494 жыл бұрын

    I love them both , great to see Banstead on you tube 😊 my house is down holly lane ....

  • @scofair1968
    @scofair19684 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed seeing those two side by side! Both stunning

  • @kevs4
    @kevs43 жыл бұрын

    Love both but if I had to pick 1 only it would be the TDF. It stands out in a crowd.

  • @idealeschoonzoon1179
    @idealeschoonzoon11794 жыл бұрын

    can't beat the GTO

  • @noelht1
    @noelht1Ай бұрын

    I’m writing this in 2024. I don’t know how much the 599 GTO is changed hands for these days? But I do know that the TDF goes for well over 1 million these days. They are crazy crazy money. A sound investment and a lot of fun if you bought one a few years back

  • @AlRaisi777
    @AlRaisi7774 жыл бұрын

    GTO is the best looking Ferrari ever been made . Aggressive yet simple .

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob224 жыл бұрын

    The Ferrari F12 TDF is electronically limited to 211mp / h, without the limiter going over 220mp / h, and GTO is only faster than Enzo in Fiorano because of the tires, Enzo is faster if it has the same tires as GTO, not to mention that Enzo has much higher top speed. But great content, very informative!

  • @preeteshpatel3962
    @preeteshpatel39623 жыл бұрын

    599 G T O ldschool......the engine note alone makes it worth it. Great video !

  • @enriqueboldo9143
    @enriqueboldo91433 жыл бұрын

    Nice video!!

  • @joestrickland5153
    @joestrickland51534 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your reviews among my favorites informative,factual, entertaining solid objective absent of senseless hyperbole!

  • @Rosso456MGT

    @Rosso456MGT

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you can deal with the comically over-acting hands lol

  • @jeffhamler2609
    @jeffhamler26093 жыл бұрын

    Great job Tom. Jeff in SF, USA

  • @pistonfury
    @pistonfuryАй бұрын

    I would take the GTO. And i would put the RX7's lateral g force contolled rear wheel steering in it.

  • @johnt9783
    @johnt9783 Жыл бұрын

    Great Video.

  • @michaelmullen8278
    @michaelmullen82784 жыл бұрын

    The 599 should also be considered one of the Halo group of Ferraris, it slots in nicely between the F50 and Enzo and is also a GTO

  • @horsepower523
    @horsepower5235 ай бұрын

    Both. Definitely would want to buy both. It's impossible to choose between these two great Ferrari V12 masterpieces.

  • @timemachine9156
    @timemachine91563 жыл бұрын

    Your voice nearly better than the Ferrari V12

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog Жыл бұрын

    Two v12 stunners. Thanks

  • @MrGB1999
    @MrGB19994 жыл бұрын

    Bang on regarding the single clutch box being more engaging and characterful. I literally would not swap my 360 for a 458 for this sole reason! Equally, I think it gives the Aventador something that say, the Huracan lacks. Much derided but not always warranted!

  • @noelht1
    @noelht1Ай бұрын

    10:24 i’m not enjoying the racing harnesses. Despite the GTO being an absolute monster, I kind of like the fact that it doesn’t look it. Sure put these belts in if you’re going to track it. But if not just run with the standard seatbelt. Keep it understated.

  • @alexmartinez280
    @alexmartinez2804 жыл бұрын

    F12 is a smaller car than the 599. Possibly the only time that has been the case in modern car history. A welcomed move IMO. Both of those cars are dream level

  • @PhotoMateKitt
    @PhotoMateKittАй бұрын

    If money is no object, definitely a 599 GTO for me. Beautifully designed by Pininfarina that still looks like it's designed in 2020s.

  • @PsyentifiqueLtd
    @PsyentifiqueLtd3 жыл бұрын

    GTO please, understated and raw

  • @markwatson4106
    @markwatson41064 жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @AlonzoStainbank
    @AlonzoStainbank3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be able to pick one - that GTO badge carries a ton of history though. Absolutely stunning machines. Forza Ferrari

  • @matthewmckittrick5960
    @matthewmckittrick59604 жыл бұрын

    GTO. All the way. Very soon we will not be able to get these cars. So i think the GTO will hold money more, In the long run. But in an Ideal world. Both.. Keep up the good work on KZread. Amazing Info as always.

  • @bennybodash855
    @bennybodash8554 жыл бұрын

    Both are beautiful! So, how do you get on the VIP list?

  • @mayukhsharma8465
    @mayukhsharma84654 жыл бұрын

    599 gto was my favorite car until the laferrari came out and then the 488 gtb and the pista version but still i would go for the 599 gto if i ever had the means to get one

  • @victorramsey5575
    @victorramsey55752 жыл бұрын

    599 for me. Old school...? Hell Yeah!

  • @julianduquemin7701
    @julianduquemin7701 Жыл бұрын

    Some cycling race? 😁 it's the biggest race in the calendar dude 😂 I love the 599GTO, moreso than the F12TDF, but can't afford either....

  • @Chrissss205
    @Chrissss2053 жыл бұрын

    Are the backseats optional on both cars??

  • @mmm4638
    @mmm4638 Жыл бұрын

    absolute beauty that gto

  • @ROSASHOWW
    @ROSASHOWW4 жыл бұрын

    599 GTO

  • @Some0ne001
    @Some0ne0012 жыл бұрын

    599 SA Aperta would be the one I would get there’s one for sale locally at the salt lake dealership and if things go right I’m buying it at the end of the year.

  • @muhammadfadil2515
    @muhammadfadil25154 жыл бұрын

    Allahumma solli 'ala Sayyidina Muhammad i want that 599 GTO :D

  • @davidbentley4731
    @davidbentley47312 жыл бұрын

    Great title!

  • @pistonfury
    @pistonfuryАй бұрын

    it's front-mid engined, not front engined... An Audi S5 is front engined.

  • @stillsearching1284
    @stillsearching12842 жыл бұрын

    As a peasant, I'd love to have the standard version of either of these cars.

  • @bextinasla9885
    @bextinasla98855 ай бұрын

    599 no doubt

  • @superfast30
    @superfast304 жыл бұрын

    GTO is gorgeous!

  • @user-kg9es5rt2x
    @user-kg9es5rt2x4 жыл бұрын

    Have always liked the 599 but for me it has to be f12 tdf

  • @christerhedenberg
    @christerhedenberg4 жыл бұрын

    F12 tdf seems to me the choice. But the most sad story is that I am living in Norway. How great it would be to buy a car from this fantastic dealer. Have to stick to Your cars through this channel. But I have to honest as a Porsche guy- Ferraris are so beautiful but sorry to say- seems to be fragile cars??! Thanks for very instructing videos!

  • @luisguillermoguerreroulate4915
    @luisguillermoguerreroulate49153 жыл бұрын

    I Would go for a F12 no the tdf.... In the 599 line up I would get the SA Aperta

  • @legionnairegonk4425
    @legionnairegonk44253 жыл бұрын

    599 all the way. It has a rawness that the TDF just can't match due to the extra tech it has. Proper road going racing car...

  • @Romansinternational

    @Romansinternational

    3 жыл бұрын

    Assuming you mean the GTO Legionnaire Gonk, we have done a video comparing the TDF and the GTO, worth a watch 😊. These cars are in a different bracket to the V8’s

  • @imbluz
    @imbluz Жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous cars

  • @robertoiacovetti7374
    @robertoiacovetti73743 жыл бұрын

    L'importante E' avere una larga scelta. Momento Quale tiene meglio Sulla ripresa prepari il cronometro Ci penso io Sulla velocità Vedremo dopo ne parleremo Ma per cortesia Quale tiene meglio In curva😁😁😁😁😁

  • @DexxonGamer77
    @DexxonGamer77 Жыл бұрын

    Never liked the 599 look. Absolutely love the f12s look, that's why it's my pick. I'd take it over the 812 aswell.

  • @triyofitriyan2975
    @triyofitriyan29754 жыл бұрын

    599 GTO 👍🏽

  • @paulleather182
    @paulleather1823 жыл бұрын

    Never liked the looks of the 599 the front is too rounded and dips down a lot. Absolutely love the f12 tdf especially in yellow such a nice car.

  • @O.R.7
    @O.R.73 жыл бұрын

    Gto outside but tdf interior, engine and transmission

  • @hottiemcscottie5952
    @hottiemcscottie59522 жыл бұрын

    I would happily take both 😁🤷‍♂️

  • @adambaxter2107
    @adambaxter21074 жыл бұрын

    I went ahead and bought both... in Forza.

  • @chance8139
    @chance81394 жыл бұрын

    I think 599 GTO look better.

  • @elvindelacrur2160
    @elvindelacrur21604 жыл бұрын

    If you could choose any three Ferrari. Which one would you choose. Me personally l would like 812 Super Fast, Portofino, and La Ferrari.

  • @paulthomson9709

    @paulthomson9709

    3 жыл бұрын

    None of these 3 , money no object id go for a 288 gto , f50 and daytona .

  • @jarlisonsantos7360

    @jarlisonsantos7360

    2 жыл бұрын

    F50, 430 Scuderia and F12 Berlinetta.

  • @maskito4256
    @maskito42564 жыл бұрын

    Investment = GTO Driving = TDF

  • @vintageyu-hi-oh4271
    @vintageyu-hi-oh42712 жыл бұрын

    Gto no brainer here

  • @triyo_fitriyan5142
    @triyo_fitriyan5142 Жыл бұрын

    599 GTO for sure

  • @fatgirlboy9341
    @fatgirlboy9341 Жыл бұрын

    TDF looks better. GTO badge more unique.

  • @TRANS.7
    @TRANS.72 жыл бұрын

    MILIKKU ADALAH MILIKMU DAN MILIKMU ADALAH MILIKKU

  • @toyotanerd2269
    @toyotanerd22693 жыл бұрын

    I can't afford one let alone both

  • @morganamg1970
    @morganamg19703 жыл бұрын

    I prefer F12 tdf

  • @Gaara7809
    @Gaara78093 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps like most Petrolheads if got the big chum of money I would be called COLLECTOR. I say I need both of the cars spanking new but mann it`s just a dream. Sometimes they come true. I wish for all petrolheads that are currently dreaming about those bad boys that one day they will appear in their garage. Cheers !

  • @user-pl2cb9zh6r
    @user-pl2cb9zh6r3 жыл бұрын

    这辆黄的不如上次那辆绿的顺眼.

  • @josephjewellers
    @josephjewellers4 жыл бұрын

    Buy both

  • @MVD792
    @MVD7923 жыл бұрын

    gto anytime

  • @double.u1577
    @double.u15773 күн бұрын

    Oh yeah yeah

  • @GeraldPUR
    @GeraldPUR4 жыл бұрын

    Nop. Go 812 Super fast

  • @johnw2698
    @johnw26984 жыл бұрын

    GTOhmg

  • @user-sm9dn5gm6q
    @user-sm9dn5gm6q3 жыл бұрын

    右ハンドルのフェラーリって珍しいな〜

  • @giacomellilorenzo3829
    @giacomellilorenzo3829 Жыл бұрын

    exotic

  • @dende890
    @dende8906 ай бұрын

    What are you talking about? That you like to feel the GAP between the gears. This car is not for a real driver, who, when driving, always looks to the next available spot in front and pushes the car there. You call it reckless driving; I called it driving, having the DRIVER GEN. I have 458, which drove 58,000 miles. I have an F12 Berlinetta, drove 11,000 miles, and I WANT to have the 599. I took THREE test drives. I used to race for years with SCCA, NASA, etc. I raced Mazda Miatas, BMWs, and Porsche. I know HOW TO DRIVE. I drove over a million miles in the Former USSR, Europe, and America. I'm 48 years behind the steering wheel. I even was fined 4000 Euro in Germany for so-called reckless driving in 2007. So, I know what I'm talking about. The first test made me nauseous in 20 min because the delay was so well felt when my head was moved forward, and then almost a second later, the higher gear engaged, and my head flew back. The first 3 gears, which are used most in street driving and most accelerated, are the most delayed. To make quick maneuvers accelerate, changing lanes in a stream of cars is very dangerous because of the delay in the gear change. The second probably had a less-used clutch, and the delay was a bit shorter but still not even close to the transmission of the BMW M3 2001, which I enjoyed tremendously. And the brakes of 599 do not have a good stopping power. The third car was similar to the second. I was hugely disappointed. I love the car and cannot understand why they made such a terrible transmission called it Formula 1. Actually, as much as I love my 2 Ferraries for their forms, power, and sound, that much I hate the Ferrari engineers who put turning levers on the steering wheel and horns. I have arthritis, and it's a pain to press those buttons, and I always show my intentions by changing lines. I even bought a Porsche 911 Turbo S although I do not like the way it looks and it's less comfortable, BUT it has a regular lever on the left to turn ON the turning lights and now drive Ferraries very rarely. The horns on the steering is idiocy, in an extreme situation you can not horn, you muscles on the thumbs and not design for multisecond reaction. Paddle shifting is not making the 599 gears faster, and Racing mode is not really a racing mode, all made for a straight lane driving by a person who has a slight idea what is driving about.

  • @cherylalbright2086

    @cherylalbright2086

    5 ай бұрын

    The Ferrari F1 is not terrible as you mentioned in your comment. I own a 2010 599 with the F1 and a 2014 Cali 30 with DCT. When Ferrari had the F1 that was the best they had back then, of course over time technology improves and now we have the amazing super smooth DCT. You can't really compare the two, you have to appreciate the differences. The F1 will jerk you around if you don't drive it right. You have to practice driving it to make your shifts smooth around town. This is the easiest way I can explain how to work the F1 smoothly. Imagine your driving a manual transmission with 3 pedals. When you put in your clutch pedal, let off the gas then shift- you have to let off your gas then shift your paddles, it really helps to practice this way with the F1 cars. DCT, any one can drive them, F1 takes more finesse. Now when your really giving your F1 system "the beans" it actually will respond super smooth. The harder you drive the car the system responds better, city driving (slow) is very challenging in the F1 cars. I of course just offer this as my experience, and hopefully someday I can have my F1 599 converted to a manual, because I prefer manuals and I love that Enzo engine so much. 🏁

  • @michaelcorleone993
    @michaelcorleone9934 жыл бұрын

    599 is much better looking.

  • @rogeeeferrari
    @rogeeeferrari Жыл бұрын

    Should you buy both ? What a ridiculous question...

  • @temelerdinch528
    @temelerdinch5285 ай бұрын

    Stuff the electric and hybrid

  • @la557
    @la5573 жыл бұрын

    250 gto

  • @AnnelKadicc
    @AnnelKadicc3 жыл бұрын

    GTO

  • @TRANS.7
    @TRANS.72 жыл бұрын

    MILIKKU ADALAH MILIKMU DAN MILIKMU ADALAH MILIKK 🕋

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee19804 жыл бұрын

    two cars that Ferrari will tell you were pinnacle flagship models when in fact they weren't even as fast as the Ferrari that was being sold at half the price.

  • @sumrandumguy7177

    @sumrandumguy7177

    3 жыл бұрын

    U mean the mid engine v8 models?

  • @bbgt6299
    @bbgt62994 жыл бұрын

    less hands pls

  • @rogerrolex6981
    @rogerrolex69814 жыл бұрын

    Those cars are shit right hand drive cars the roads suck in the UK not mention how shitty the weather is there 24/7 why anyone would buy one n keep it there makes zero sense. Buy left hand drive and use the greatness of the tunnel use your car in Europe makes much better sense for added value definitely more fun n smiles per pound spent. 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼 Obviously the best one to buy is the very rare manual 599 who’s value is going thru the roof!!!! For the money 812 super fast over TDF better car value for da money

  • @sumrandumguy7177

    @sumrandumguy7177

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hate rhd cars with a passion

  • @carlow3182
    @carlow31824 жыл бұрын

    The 599 GTO is not worthy of that batch. Gran Turismo Omologato... the 599 GTO was never intended for homologation. I would still prefer the 599 GTO though, the name is just stupid.

  • @patmartin4411
    @patmartin44114 жыл бұрын

    Niether!!!! Lambo SV and SVJ

  • @amressam2690
    @amressam26904 жыл бұрын

    Dear All ferrari Team... Accept the design of ( ferrari stallone by murray sharp) and produce the most fastest & g force hypercar ever made .. Ferrari Fans

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee19804 жыл бұрын

    599 GTO is the most BS marketing name in the Ferrari history. All show and no go. Couldn't handle at all.

  • @thomasstalder6708
    @thomasstalder67084 жыл бұрын

    GTO, the TDF is just badly designed.

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