ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz PLEASE SCRIPT APPROVAL Does the camera store that you work knows that you not telling the story CORRECTLY RIGHT???? This company that your talking about is from ITALY, and use to called 3M Remember Scotch Color, Scotch Chrome? Where did Spanish got into the video... REDO IT AND AGAIN SCRIPT APPROVAL..... And again DECAF!,

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Alex want to let you know you are loved!

I'm a backer, and I will keep backing them. And one day I will receive my slide film (I hope). I knew what I was getting into, when I backed the kickstarter. I wish them all the best with the new p30 film, and when the European store opens I'll order some rolls. I hope there will also be p30 in 120 soon.

@spinwriter

4 жыл бұрын

Same for me. IAM a backer as well and coming from manufacturing, I can be very patient. I believe these people are genuinely interested in producing a all they promised. All new projects take a great deal of time to accomplish. I will stick by them.

@trevorsowers

3 жыл бұрын

I am also a backer and I am happy to wait as long as they are still working to make it happen. I really am hoping to see slide film but the P30 is great news.

I'am a backer and I agree it's about saving a film company. I ordered five rolls of P30 and testing it with Rollei RLS developer

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I hope they thrive and we see more film in the market.

Well said Nico. We are still living in difficult times for the film business, and we must all continue to support the few manufacturers that are left or there will be no film business for anyone.

Well said Nico! I'm a backer and I knew what I was getting into... Glad that Ferrania is up and running.

I wasn't a Kickstarter backer but I did follow the works on the plant. I have great admiration for the huge amount of work and the unimaginable problems the team had to cope with. Therefor I will buy their P30 film when it becomes available. Well done Nico!

Yes! I've got five rolls headed my way, I really loved the last batch and I can't wait to shoot the new stuff. I'm glad to see Ferrania back up and running, they had a huge task ahead of them and people grousing about them online didn't help.

@CertainExposures

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Delgadillo do you have an online portfolio of the shots anywhere? I just ordered some and I’d like to see samples...

@zguy95135

4 жыл бұрын

​@@CertainExposures I have some up on Flickr, but here are two examples: live.staticflickr.com/931/43032091614_54b91f3f1f_h.jpg live.staticflickr.com/1899/29201498947_32ddc5789b_h.jpg It took some experimenting to find what worked for me and I only had five rolls on hand originally. IMO the best way to shoot it is ISO 25, HC-110B 1:31, develop 5 minutes. It acts a lot like slide film, it's best in softer light, overcast, morning/evening and meter for the highlights. It's crazy sharp and fine grained though, and just pops with dramatic lighting.

Totally agree with your opinions. I've still got a couple of rolls of Alpha P30 left to shoot and I'm very glad to see Ferrania back up and running! I will definitely support their products are they become available.

I think it's amazing they ever made it to market. I have Ferrania P30 made in September 2022. I'm looking forward to shooting it.

I agree 100%. Saving the factory was a huge thing. 🙂

Totally agree!

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fausto!

Loving this discussion and wish we could have something of this depth about the ektachrome medium format and large format we've all been waiting for

Thank you Nico.

P30 is the best looking current production black and white films in my opinion. So that's another reason I will choose to support film ferrania!

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

That is a great reason to be behind their products!

Nico, I really like these opinion videos. I know Ferrania from a very long past, one of my uncles always used Ferrania film. My main reason to back the Kickstarter was to save the film factory. It reminded me a little of The Impossible Project. That took almost 10 years. I admire the Ferrania people that run this project, despite all troubles encountered they kept going on and on! When the European shop opens I’ll further support them.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks R.J.! I really enjoy sharing a bit more of info that on the news, so the opinion pieces help. As for Ferrania, it does remind me too of the Impossible Project, hope they can start running machines on a consistent base.

Thanks for this great video. I just bought some rolls and hopefully the 120 will follow soon.

I'm excited to see what Ferrania can do. I'm not into slide film myself, but I want to see them succeed. I do love B&W film though.

I knew they were working hard through problems they had inherited...... I figured they were being a tad optimistic!! They've done really well to have gotten this far!! I will be buying their film and support them :-)

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Its been a long way full of problems, but one emulsion is a good sign and a start.

@Leptospirosi

4 жыл бұрын

May be they were too optimistic but I think when they found out the building was literally built out of asbestos, their dream almost collapsed: to eliminate that stuff is such an expensive and time consuming endeavour that those 300K € could have been burned just doing that... v__v

I just ordered a roll. $10 plus shipping came out to $15 total. Not a popular film in Kentucky back when they used to make it the first time around. I’m going to do a video about it and see what its qualities are like.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see your take on it. I still have a few of the originals that came out. Really liked how it rendered scenes.

🖒 Cheers Nico and love the way 'Ferrania' is pronounced in Spanish....better than my Yorkshire accent 😊

I wasn't into film when they launched on Kickstarter, so I'm not a backer. I did just buy some P30, though, since it's an easy way to show support.

I think this kind of reflection is important and think a bit about how complicated it is to start a challenge like resuscitating a company in a business with such a limited market. It seems that the biggest problem lately is finish the product. Ferrania found this problem some time ago and Kodak announces now price increases for this reason. What strikes me is that even though the 135 rolls termination is problematic, don't decide to launch a sale in 30 meter cans that simplifies the termination and many users would appreciate it.

I really like your jacket, could you send me a link or the model number? I've checked Patagonia's webpage but can't find it

I am a backer. Thanks for the little update. I don't need any more black and white film, I have lots of it, so I won't be buying any of it. I am not even too sure that the film community needed more black and white film. However, I wish them good fortune and I am glad that they persevered and saved the film factory. If they ever get around to making color slide film I'll be glad to buy some.

any update with film ferrania p30?

It is worth it. I backed them and I will wait for slide film, and buy some P30, loved the alpha. Would love 120film! Keep it going Ferrania!!!

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

120 will be awesome when its available.

On that same tour, I asked the Chief Chemist which film had the greatest silver content and asked the Sales Director why they didn't offer 220 medium format film. Interesting responses, but this is a Ferrania blog.

@user-ti9zc1xv2b

4 жыл бұрын

Silver content doesn’t equate to better, sharper, better negatives in any way shape or form anymore. Kodak’s retired lead chemist wrote a long blog post about bunking such myths. Adox Silvermax is a bunch of marketing, it’s a great film nonetheless.

I'm a backer too, and I was backing them for what they wanted to achieve - buying the machines, creating a new film manufacturing and re-issuing the slide film Ferrania once produced. Well, I was never interested in the slide film (I'm more interested in color negative), but when they came up with P30 Alpha, I was excited. And after my first roll of P30 Alpha (I payed for 5 of it, because I didn't want them as perks, but give them additional money), I was hooked. And the drama around FILM Ferrania was worth all my money, it is better than any Hollywood sequel and worth every cent I've given them. Now I'm just waiting for them to get their act together, and don't care when this will happen. As a German, I was aware that things would not work out as planned in Italy, and it came as it had to come (no surprise there ;-)). Okay, as a Berliner I'm well accustomed to things not going to plan, but it will happen eventually (it looks as if our shiny new airport will go "online" in October, or maybe November, or December 2020, or maybe spring next year - who cares ;-)).

About 8 years ago I visited the Ilford factory in Mobberly for a factory tour. They had installed a 35mm packaging machine they'd bought from Ferrania. It was/is a fabulous piece of kit and far advanced from what preceded it. It takes a large roll of 35mm, spools, flat plates of the canister and reels of felt. It automatically rolls and cuts the film to length on the spool, bends the canister to shape after adding the light felt and assembles it all with the caps. It was fast, maybe 10 secs to complete a roll. Ilford's greatest difficulty was that the control software was in Italian and they were learning how to manage it. Now I've no idea how many of these machines Ferrania had, but Ilford only needed one and they had it from Ferrania and they still have it. If that was Ferrania's only machine, I suspect they'd need someone else to package the 35mm film for them. Maybe that's in the USA. It would cost many hundreds of thousands of euros to buy a new machine and install it.

@GregoryVeizades

4 жыл бұрын

The machine ilford bought was from Ferrania's main factory. The facilities and equipment Film Ferrania bought were from a small testing and development factory that Ferrania Operated but never made film in quantity for worldwide distribution.

@Super.Quasar

4 жыл бұрын

Gregory Veizades Thanks for that detail, it’s very informative. It’s suspected that Ilford are packaging other manufacturers 35mm film stocks, including Fuji’s. Anything that strengthens Ilford’s business and ensures continuity is good for photographers worldwide.

Interesting, and it seems that the people at Ferrania has a lot of stamina, never to give up. I may buy some film to show my support.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Im still surprised they are still fighting!

I totally agree with what you are saying. I am not BBC a backer, but I am hoping to see more film brands(even those which closed shop) in our shelves, rebranded or otherwise. I am eagerly waiting for ferrania to ship so that I can shoot some.

I really wanted to test out the P30 of the last batch some 3 years ago, and am excited once again I may get to finally do so. I have seen some really gorgeous images taken with it, and it is indeed a unique emulsion. Do you know Nicos if this "batch" is similar in properties to their 1st attempt? Either way, I hope they produce it in multiple formats, and I will support them when I can.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

I think it should be close enough. Not having seen any examples at the moment its hard to say.

@ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s

4 жыл бұрын

I bought 5 rolls from the first batch and it was a beautiful film with high contrast deep shadows and milky highlights. Such a fine grain which looks stunning when printed. If it comes out at £10 a roll its worth giving it a go.

well said, cheers

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Humberto!

LOL Unicorn Blood!

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Rare as hens teeth

Love "Dolce Vita" (the movie) look. If Ferrania P30 will be in 120 format i surely will try it.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

I would to try it in 120 when its out.

I would like to put some P30 120 in my Ferrania IBIS 66 toy-like camera with a fixed lens, aperture and shutter speed. Ferrania F20 Ultracrom/Superpan film was the recommended film back in the 50s for this camera. I support any venture that keeps our passion alive. Thanks Nico.

I wasn't a backer for Ferrania. In fact I didn't even hear about them until a few days ago when I was shopping around for other orthochromatic film options like Ilford's newly released Ortho Plus. Just ordered some rolls and hope their production and distribution can continue for the rest of the world.

I’m looking forward to P30 becoming available in Europe. I totally agree, we should support them wholeheartedly!

Is another B&W emulsion really what we need? Shouldn't they concentrate on producing something that is really needed? I think adox, ilford, and Kodak still put out very nice B&W emulsions.

Will you be posting an update once the USA store is live? I will buy a roll to try it out. I do not know all the details about this case. However, I’ve heard tales about the bureaucracy that Italian citizens/businesses have to face sometimes (mainly anecdotal). 5 years does seem long though. In any case, I think you’re on the money about there being some good in a vertically integrated film producer. The fallout with their unnamed partner could have been a blessing in disguise. I just hope Ferrania bends over backwards for the kickstarters and investors. In this community it is certainly better to under promise and over deliver.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

The video will be live when the store goes live and the link will be added.

@CertainExposures

4 жыл бұрын

Nicos Photography Show nice. Just ordered 5 rolls.

i backed Ferrainia and i don't for one minute regret it. I also bought 5 rolls of P30 which i found to be a beautiful film and well worth giving a go. When i backed them i didn't even shoot slide or really want it. My aim was to help save and startup a film manufacturing plant. I knew this venture was going to be a struggle and a long time in coming but hopefully the money from the backers and the hardwork from everyone involved at Ferrania will see the development and growth of this company to produce film for many decades to come. In it for the long haul.

Thanks Nico. Like all your followers, I am on your frequency. I will keep an eye out for P30.

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Aristo! We all want film to thrive but its ok if others have a different approach.

I fill for them, working so hard and catching slowly , but I agree with you on saving that film factory. Sadly I am not in a position to help financially .

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Well its the intention and attitude that helps. One can not be able to spend money on them but having a positive message for them helps.

I'm looking for a Plus-X look-alike. This film could be beautiful. I'm wondering if Ferrania is similar.

Holà Nico, very interesting opinion. Totally agree about Ferrania they got huge balls to make that bet. But today film is not an issue anymore cameras are.

I'm a backer, and also I'm italian. So on one hand I was more than happy to help. On the other hand I know how hard is to deal with the italian government and that the guys at Ferrania run into a number of issues/problems/unexpected obstacles. Still, no updates for months and they only released a BW film that imho is not that special...so I don't even know how to feel about the whole thing anymore. I wish them good luck, even tho I might not even see a Ferrania branded color film.

I know P30 might not be everyone's bag, for various reasons (being burned by the KS, not liking the film, etc.). But I for one am excited! Congrats to Ferrania! It's not going to be my everyday film (and I'm actually hoping to see P30 in 4x5 at some point one day) but I've have a lot of fun with it last time they were selling rolls of it. ADOX's HR50 is another film I enjoy as well (they seem like cousins of each other). Great to have choice. What a time to be a film shooter!

@Frisenette

4 жыл бұрын

There is no “getting burned”. Kickstarters are very clearly up front a “risk”. That you got your hopes all up and heavy, and bet what you feel is a princely sum, is not Ferranias fault or problem. Retro80s is the real “equivalent” of P30.

If things were simple they certainly did not ask for help. The greatness of Ferrania is having produced an old school film, with an old school concept...In the world all the producers have changed the recipe of their emulsions making them cheaper and more adaptable to large retailers, not Ferrania. The P30 is not an easy film, it is expensive in production with its 5g/m2 of silver, an abnormal amount if referred to the competition, and the results are noticeabl. Furthermore, due to its high silver content, it is a film that can be printed on a slide..In Italy the best technicians have obtained excellent results. The 120 is almost in production, according to the CEO there are a few months left to launch...(before covid-19) so if they announced for July it will surely be postponed for September/October. The production of a chemical designed for the P30 is also planned (at the moment all the technicians have obtained the best results with the Rollei Supergrain in dilution 1 + 12 for 7 ′, 30 ″ at 20 ° C) and a color film.

Screaming in my head I had the question "But what is P30 like?" I guess I'll have to wait for the EU store to find out. Also groovy second cam work there Nicos - you'll be an anchor with CNN before we know it ;)

@rlfsoso

4 жыл бұрын

very good blacks, contrasty - good for lots of light in my experience (just the alpha). Would love it for 120 film!

@bigdogdougcambridge1008

4 жыл бұрын

I too am a backer. I tried Alpha as recommended. If you work in the darkroom I recommend you shoot it at ASA 40 or 20 not box speed. Most people scan so probably don't mind thin negatives. These are the results of my tests... remorseblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/ferrania-p30-alpha-test.html

I have bought FERRANIA film. Believe in start ups. In USA ... 35mm 120 & 4X5

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, will get some as soon as its available in Europe.

@chrisloomis1489

4 жыл бұрын

@@NicosPhotographyShow I am supporter of any firm willing to build a plant from the ground up, preserving craftsmanship. Very excited to use the film esp in 120 & 4x5

What the heck, I'll order some and sell them off to you folks in Europe. I'll pass the expenses to you guys across the pond there in order to cover my expenses :)

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

There you go! 🤣

That's very good to have a new film, but unfortunately it's one more film at an insane price! Not for me, sorry... I'm pretty happy with my Fomapan films that cost me no more than 2€ the roll of 36 exposures buying bulk rolls. It allows me to take 5 times more pictures, which is very useful in street photography...

@GregoryVeizades

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this film won't be for everyone at first. Its expensive because as he said. We are funding a factory through buying this film.

Ferrrrrrania

@NicosPhotographyShow

4 жыл бұрын

Gotta have that rrrrrr!

It is a miracle that Ferrania is still around. The Italian government is the worst. A truly Byzantine organization that is a nightmare to face

What the hell has happened to them

Just here for the proper pronunciation of Ferrania