Fermentation vs Distillation - What's the Difference?

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We see a lot of confusion over what fermentation is and what distillation is. I know this might seem basic to some, but hey, everyone starts somewhere, right?
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  • @CitySteadingBrews
    @CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын

    Pardon me while I drink some whiskey....

  • @dragonb5758

    @dragonb5758

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll tip my Bourbon up to that!

  • @mr.knownothing

    @mr.knownothing

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video! It really amazes me how many people don't know the difference between making Mead and Distilling. Happy that you were able to put this video out there for those folks.

  • @jesuisshirley0716
    @jesuisshirley071624 күн бұрын

    clear and easy explanation!! love your voice too! hard to find a youtuber with a voice that is comfortable to listen to .!!

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    23 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you think so.

  • @Violetatk

    @Violetatk

    17 күн бұрын

    Agreed! Now I finally got it, thank you!

  • @yomuno2511
    @yomuno2511 Жыл бұрын

    I tell no lie, in 11th grade Chemistry class we made 'moonshine'. We added yeast to sugar water, let it ferment over a weekend and then distilled it using a lab condenser (tube in a larger tube with running water in between). The abv was around 24 percent, we were allowed to taste it if we wanted to. I guess they were trying to teach us how to make moonshine here in the NW Georgia hills!

  • @phasepanther4423

    @phasepanther4423

    11 ай бұрын

    24% is nothing too crazy. But yes, the liebig condenser will do just fine if your temperature is right, too hot and you're boiling the water, too low and you're wasting time.

  • @paulsnowdon4765
    @paulsnowdon4765 Жыл бұрын

    Good video on the basics. For some spirits like vodka, the distilleries do multiple passes through the still to remove flavors and get more neutral. The distillery I visited was making a 90% distillation at the time. After it had finished, they were going to water it down to 40% for sale. As always, barrel aging is a different beast and also changes ABV

  • @Quintinohthree

    @Quintinohthree

    Жыл бұрын

    Vodka will generally be made in a single pass through a continuous collumn still, which does multple cycles of evaporation and condensation in one aparatus, but what you say is very true of many.

  • @whitewer
    @whitewer Жыл бұрын

    There is also another type of distillation that is done, and that is freeze distillation also known as Fractional freezing. Where you freeze the lower proof alcohol and remove the ice chunks which is the water and then you're left with a more concentrated alcohol. It was a very common thing to do with Hard apple Ciders where they then become known as Apple Jack, and is also something done with beers where they will be considered an Ice Beer. While mostly legal with beer for the homebrewer, if it's done with ciders, it's considered illegal if done in a home brew setting per times where people have reached out to the Alcohol and Tobacco bureau

  • @Nicker44
    @Nicker44 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for breaking that down for me. I'm a new brewer and have talk about it with my friends and family and they always seem to ask this question. Now I can tell them with confidence!

  • @ronaldgroves9037
    @ronaldgroves9037 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this one keep educating us I know I love watching you guys.

  • @mr.knownothing
    @mr.knownothing Жыл бұрын

    I've enjoyed your videos for a couple years now. I started making Mead after watching several of your videos. I still watch your videos just now instead of making Mead I make whiskey and rum. Mainly because I am more of a whiskey drinker then anything else. I am a subscriber for life!

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    If it were legal for us to make whiskey… I would.

  • @markellis3597
    @markellis3597 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful explanation! Spot on!

  • @urbanhomesteadingchannel1813
    @urbanhomesteadingchannel1813 Жыл бұрын

    Brian you have outdone yourself. You have taken me to a far greater level of confusion that you have never taken me before 😂💚

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    So you are confused about the difference still?

  • @urbanhomesteadingchannel1813

    @urbanhomesteadingchannel1813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews just a bit. But I'm not interested in actually trying spirits anyway so it's all good 😊

  • @jeffberridge176

    @jeffberridge176

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews STILL 😂 HA

  • @daigledj
    @daigledj Жыл бұрын

    Can't believe you not only used the "D" word numerous times but even made a video on it!!!

  • @SA12String
    @SA12String Жыл бұрын

    It is illegal to distill alcohol at home in the entire United States. It is federal law. Some states have made it legal by STATE law, but the federal law is still in effect and you can be arrested and prosecuted in federal court, regardless of the state law. If anyone is interested in the art of distilling, I suggest watching Jesse's videos on his channel - Still It. He is in New Zealand where it is legal to distill spirits at home.

  • @yomuno2511

    @yomuno2511

    Жыл бұрын

    It's also Federal law that recreational marijuana is illegal in the entire USA, but states like Colorado and others have legalized it in their respective states; however, one could still be charged on a Federal level. I understand that Congress is considering dropping the federal law.

  • @GoranSvettlund
    @GoranSvettlund Жыл бұрын

    could watch this guy all day. love this channel. thanks for making content for noobs. im advanced now because of you but its all good

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @papasmurf9146

    @papasmurf9146

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree 100%. We all started out as noobs. Its funny how they did such a good job educating us noobs that Brian feels the need to apologize for educating noobs. We're all ignorant. Just in different subjects (to paraphrase Will Rogers).

  • @barrytdrake
    @barrytdrake Жыл бұрын

    Brian, thank you for the education.

  • @nikolthomas2544
    @nikolthomas254411 ай бұрын

    'Proof' is a very old unit. It's the result of an archaic (tho still decently accurate) way of calculating ABV. It's called 'Proof' because spirits below ~40% ABV won't burn/ignite. An old test to make sure your hooch wasn't watered down too much was to see if some of it would burn. A burning spirit is 'proof' that it wasn't overly diluted.

  • @garystielow232
    @garystielow232 Жыл бұрын

    Great idea for a video! I'm a bit older (mid 50's) and had no clue (until a few years ago) that distilled beverages started out as fermented beverages that got their higher ABV by removing some of the water to "distill" the beverage into a higher alcohol content.

  • @phasepanther4423

    @phasepanther4423

    11 ай бұрын

    Don't mean to nitpick, just want to add that it's not quite removing water but removing alcohol and using the removed alcohol as your product. This is why distilled beverages tend to have less flavour immediately after distillation. Infusions and aging give a near endless realm of possibilities afterwards.

  • @3signets
    @3signets8 ай бұрын

    Best explanation, thank you.

  • @thiccchad6690
    @thiccchad6690 Жыл бұрын

    I just looked it up. Distillation for personal use is only legal in New Zealand

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty much, yup.

  • @eddavanleemputten9232

    @eddavanleemputten9232

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, you can legally distill at home in several other countries, provided you register your still and you register yourself as a distiller. This is the case in South Africa. Another example is The Netherlands. You need to follow a course that’s recognised by the government, you need to register your still, apply for a license, and at set points in time, you need to report how much you’ve distilled and how much you are planning on distilling. This needs to be backed up by receipts of your primary ingredients (f.ex. how many kilograms of sugar for sugarwash) and your yield. You are then taxed on your yield. I’m not entirely certain anymore if taxation differs for personal use or for sale though. Anyone can apply for the license. Or do you mean unlicensed distilling? Perhaps that’s the case in New Zealand… I haven’t checked. Might be. I know that where I live it’s very hard to obtain a license to distill. You have to have a VAT number, which rules out everyone who is not self-employed. You have to follow training at your own cost, which isn’t cheap. You have to register your still, your distilling place, get both the still and the space approved by the food safety inspection services, and pay a crapload of taxes. Even professional companies in the food and drink business shy away from distilling. Instead, they’ll buy distilled neutral alcohol from another company, pay for the shipping, and mix/macerate it until they have their desired end product. If it were easier to obtain a license, I’d delve into the art of distilling. As is, I’m keeping myself far from it.

  • @AedanBlackheart

    @AedanBlackheart

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Edda Van Leemputten jeeze... at that point why even go through all that hassle lol. The government just wants more money because they're afraid everybody will sell their booze, I'd make it just for myself and family.

  • @kevind1470
    @kevind147011 ай бұрын

    OMG your so funny in that one ferment vs Distillation LOL😂

  • @shanelefever7704
    @shanelefever7704 Жыл бұрын

    I have seen new Zealand youtubers that have stills in their homes checkout still it I find it fascinating how stilling works

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, one of the few places it’s legal.

  • @nextlifeonearth
    @nextlifeonearth Жыл бұрын

    2:57 You're correct here. Vapour is the same thing as gas, gas being the more scientific term, because you're talking about alcohol in the gaseous form.

  • @phasepanther4423
    @phasepanther442311 ай бұрын

    On the topic of higher purities, it becomes significantly more dangerous the closer to 100% you get to. 95% may get you drunk quickly, 98% may leave you in the hospital for the exact same amount. And I do mean even in smaller doses. Yes the overall amount of alcohol ingested will determine the overall effect it would have, but the immediate effects are experienced by concentration differences. This includes the rapid dehydration.

  • @cheguevara4451
    @cheguevara4451 Жыл бұрын

    Talk about Apple Jack you can freeze it to purify the alcohol to like 40% Without distillation

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    The US govt considers that distillation still and it is illegal.

  • @roytelling6540
    @roytelling6540 Жыл бұрын

    I am so happy to here you don't se the need for proof of alcohol, it never made any since to me. I just thought it was only used in countries that wanting to sound like they can drink stronger liquor than anyone else LoL also you have to work out the ABV first then multiply it by 2 WHY! I understand this is for people that do not know the different! But you can distil at home I've been doing it for about 20ish years, but you are only looking at small amounts of product. if you distilled 10 litres of 13% wash? You would get maybe 2.5 litres. BUT another great video by you again

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    RE: home distilling, no, it's illegal in most areas. Look it up for your location, you might be surprised. This is where people get fermentation and distillation confused.

  • @roytelling6540

    @roytelling6540

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews Thank but I do not live in the USA. I do understand the different started my first homebrew beer about 35 years ago then went onto wine I still make wine but don't do beer now a days

  • @phasepanther4423
    @phasepanther442311 ай бұрын

    For those confused about the temperature being variable, imagine if there was no energy of vaporization and all your water changed phase immediately. Then when you boil water it will appear completely still until it reached it's boiling point at that pressure before exploding into steam.

  • @jasonwilson1880
    @jasonwilson1880 Жыл бұрын

    Hi I'm new to making homemade cider have a quick question if that's ok currently making pear cider in 1 gallon carboy used pure bartlett nectar juice and ec1118 its been 1 week now I see a heavy white thick top kinda looks like cheese on top of the cider is this mold or normal? thank you love your channel;)))

  • @AedanBlackheart

    @AedanBlackheart

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Hard to say… foam is normal, cheese? Is there a smell?

  • @jasonwilson1880

    @jasonwilson1880

    Жыл бұрын

    No smell it's hard to describe but looks like a sponge type texture floating on top once I touched the carboy it sank to the bottom right away! Could this be krausen that floats?

  • @papasmurf9146
    @papasmurf9146 Жыл бұрын

    Will Rogers said it best: Everybody is ignorant, just in different subjects.

  • @TarunChauhan-ee3pe
    @TarunChauhan-ee3pe27 күн бұрын

    Sir , what are you talking about corn something in this video

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    27 күн бұрын

    Corn is used to make bourbon.

  • @jongrnl
    @jongrnl Жыл бұрын

    This video make me wonder; is the corn wort drinkable? I’m sure it’s safe to drink but would you want to? This might be a thing. I can’t drink beer so I wouldn’t know.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Drinkable? Maybe. Good? Doubtful.

  • @mr.knownothing
    @mr.knownothing Жыл бұрын

    Still spirits makes an air still that allows you to distill on your kitchen counter. Just thought I'd throw that in. 😉

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t make it legal!

  • @mr.knownothing

    @mr.knownothing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews 🤣🤣🤣

  • @andyn3532
    @andyn3532 Жыл бұрын

    I once accidentally added to much sugar to a cider and it ended up at 24% that was some years back now using bulldog brand mead yeast that was a fun weekend 🤣

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Did it really get to 24 or just potential? In my experience, it's very rare.

  • @andyn3532

    @andyn3532

    Жыл бұрын

    @City Steading Brews I was just as surprised myself and yes it went to 24 I didn't think it was going to brew at all but it got there

  • @andyn3532

    @andyn3532

    Жыл бұрын

    @City Steading Brews I've just had some mead making supplies delivered today shredded liquorice root and dandelion root and burdock root. Not sure if you have the soda drink dandelion and burdock over there but it's a rather nice drink so a couple of years back I made a mead with it it's rather nice. I went through a phase of old drinks like sasparilla and sweet shop sweets like pear drops and parma violets but wanting to make them from natural ingredients like the pear drop was made with ripe bananas and pears and I think I added some lemon juice or zest in secondary to give it a bit of a sour tang like you get with some boiled sweets.

  • @the_whiskeyshaman
    @the_whiskeyshaman Жыл бұрын

    I know this has been said but whiskey can not have any sugar in it. Only grains. And bourbon has to be at least 51% corn. Distilled and no more than 80% abv and must be aged in new American white oak barrels.

  • @olologmereol5031
    @olologmereol5031 Жыл бұрын

    Is it worth distilling a bad batch with beer/wine?

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    No idea... it's illegal for us to do it.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    We do not distill nor give distillation advice on this channel.

  • @olologmereol5031

    @olologmereol5031

    Жыл бұрын

    Illegal for me too. I just Wonder:p

  • @markmanning2921
    @markmanning2921 Жыл бұрын

    I have to argue ONE point there is no such thing as OVER caffeination

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @geoffreyreuther5260

    @geoffreyreuther5260

    Жыл бұрын

    I dunno... my son had some friends over for his birthday party a couple years back, and one of the kids had a bit too much Mountain Dew and ended up going full Cornholio right as his parents came to pick him up.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @jamesvaughn1354
    @jamesvaughn1354 Жыл бұрын

    There big difference in distillation.. I did research on it an too much for me

  • @thedullohanvids
    @thedullohanvids Жыл бұрын

    What would distilled mead be? it wouldn't be whiskey, rum, brandy, or vodka. Is there even a turm for that?

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s no official designation

  • @thedullohanvids

    @thedullohanvids

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews Someone must make something like that somewhere I'm sure, or at least tried too. wonder how it would taste. I would guess that not a lot of the honey flavor would come threw.

  • @AedanBlackheart

    @AedanBlackheart

    Жыл бұрын

    *term and probably nasty

  • @Quintinohthree

    @Quintinohthree

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@CitySteadingBrews There is a very boring official designation of "honey spirit" defined in EU law. It's defined as being made from a honey mash, distilled below 86% with no additional alcohol or flavoring, except honey to sweeten and caramel to adapt colour.

  • @leepetrenka
    @leepetrenka Жыл бұрын

    i would think even more basic. Distillation is the manual process of separating compounds based on evaporation, while fermentation is the metabolic process of converting sugars into alcohol and CO2. One will happen naturally, while the other will not.

  • @DawzeyJ

    @DawzeyJ

    Жыл бұрын

    distillation can happen naturally - let your alcoholic beverage outside to freeze in winter and boom... natural distillation.

  • @leepetrenka

    @leepetrenka

    Жыл бұрын

    "Freeze distillation" isn't actually a distillation, It is fractional freezing.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Incidentally the US government does consider it distillation and it falls under the same laws. They consider any method of raising the abv of a beverage by removing water or concentration to be under the topic of distillation as laws are concerned.

  • @leepetrenka

    @leepetrenka

    Жыл бұрын

    I look at the science and legality as two separate conversations. Technically distillation is the separation/purification of liquid by evaporation and then condensation. Though there is also solid distillation where you heat an object and condense the gasses that come off the substrate.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, legality plays a huge part imo, since we aren’t doing anything illegal on our show.

  • @thatjonguy103
    @thatjonguy103 Жыл бұрын

    1:06 Well not with that attitude! I do kinda wonder what a distilled mead that's then aged in a barrel would taste like.

  • @covered_in_sponges7058
    @covered_in_sponges7058 Жыл бұрын

    Corn wine... Corn mead??? Actually, April fools day is coming up. If y'all posted a video making mead with a few cans of creamed corn, well it'd be something, all right.

  • @LadyElaineLovegood
    @LadyElaineLovegood Жыл бұрын

    "I may have over caffeinated." lol

  • @chuck419plus1
    @chuck419plus1 Жыл бұрын

    isn't Tennesee mountain ever clear 200% proof?

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s 190 proof at its highest but there’s a few versions. Can’t be 200% proof, either % or proof :)

  • @AedanBlackheart

    @AedanBlackheart

    Жыл бұрын

    So basically 95% abv

  • @nicholaskarako5701
    @nicholaskarako5701 Жыл бұрын

    As far as getting a license to distill spirits it would probably only be worth for your channel if you wanted to sale it a product that imbues both you and the wifey personality. Like a distilled mead, wine something or other. As far as spirits in the US you are typically not going to find any liquor higher proof than Everclear, 190 proof, Spirytus 192 a couple of rums that are 151 proof or Goldschager 107 in most package stores. Now if you know anyone that makes their own moonshine that is different.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not worth it. We would need to rent or buy a building, insurance, plus the $4,000 a year license IF we got approved.

  • @nicholaskarako5701

    @nicholaskarako5701

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow $4,000 dollars just to get a license to distill legally and that's if you get approved. No wonder why people distill illegally. Just think how much your state could make if the license to distill legally for personal consumption. Small batches of liquor if the license was $100 dollars, approval and as long as you have a clean record/ no issues with drinking and driving.

  • @saddletramp1979
    @saddletramp1979 Жыл бұрын

    There is away to freeze distill, but they say if you get drunk on it you will beg for death.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s still illegal technically.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    In addition, since its just concentrating a version of the original, drinking the equivalent amount as freeze distilled won’t make you feel much differently.

  • @saddletramp1979

    @saddletramp1979

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews Freeze distillation leaves the heads and tales in it, and that will give you a bad hangover.

  • @ricksigurdson2016
    @ricksigurdson2016 Жыл бұрын

    I thought Jim Beam was a cleaning product unfit for human consumption😅 Or in cold weather countries just freeze it and pour off the slush. Rinse and repeat as necessary. While I distill it's not quite as easy as it looks on moonshine shows. It is legal where I live.

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Umm, no? It's a decent bourbon. They also make many others. Is it the best? No, but for the price it's not bad.

  • @ricksigurdson2016

    @ricksigurdson2016

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@CitySteadingBrews Just not a fan of bourbon. Prefer rums and scotch I can't afford. But I prefer grain to glass beer brewing. About 28 days from brewing to drinking unless doing a lager.

  • @DawzeyJ

    @DawzeyJ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews it is pretty average bourbon 🤣

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DawzeyJ I said that above. That hardly makes it not suitable for human consumption :P

  • @geoffreyreuther5260

    @geoffreyreuther5260

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews "Unsuitable for human consumption" would be what's found on the bottom shelf at a WinCo. 😆

  • @elricthebald870
    @elricthebald870 Жыл бұрын

    Hypothetically

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't do any distilling....

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I know the reference :)

  • @elricthebald870

    @elricthebald870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CitySteadingBrews 😁

  • @Bob.isnotmyname
    @Bob.isnotmyname Жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @robertsullivan3970
    @robertsullivan39708 ай бұрын

    I have no actual comments. I just know commenting helps boost the channel and I wanna do that till I can actually join the "club" lol stay excellent 😎

  • @CitySteadingBrews

    @CitySteadingBrews

    8 ай бұрын

    :). Thanks.

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