Background to the Ferguson TO20 tractor: The tractor was produced from 1947-52 by Harry Ferguson, Inc. of Dearborn, Michigan. The definition of the TO20 is Tractor Overseas, 20HP, TE20 is Tractor England, 20HP. The TO20 is the American built version since it utilizes the Continental Z120 and Delco components. The TE20 utilizes a Standard Engine with Lucas components. Harry Ferguson was the original inventor and designer of this tractor and inventor of the 3pt hitch. Henry Ford and Harry Ferguson teamed together with a "Handshake Agreement" to build the 9N Ford in 1939, the 2N in 1942. After Ford's death in 1947, Henry Ford II broke the agreement with Ferguson and violated the design of the tractor agreement by developing the 8N Ford in 1948. Ferguson went right to work with his own production firm in both England and the United States. By 1953, Ferguson merged with Massey Harris, and by 1958, formed present day Massey Ferguson Company. Harry Ferguson passed away in 1960.

@flhusa1

5 жыл бұрын

TE20 USES CONTINENTAL Z120 ENGINE LUCAS ELECTRICS AND DIFFERENT BRAKE COMPANY AND TRANNY CASE IS ALUMINUM.ALSO STIFFENING RODS FROM TRANNY TO FRONT OF TRACTOR BECAUSE OF ALUMINUM TRANNY CASE. 19 IN FRONT WHEELS ON TE20 AND 16 WHEELS ON TO20. TE20 GIRLING BRAKES AND TO20 BENDIX BRAKES. TE20 LUCAS DISTRIBUTOR AND TO20 DELCO DISTRIBUTOR. TO20 TWIST LOCK METAL GAS CAP TE20 SCREW ON BRASS GAS CAP. TE20 HAS OIL FILLED FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS AND TO20 HAS GREASED FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS. TO20 TWO BOLT STARTER SAFETY SWITCH. TE20 FOUR BOLT STARTER SAFETY SWITCH. TE20 LUCAS DISTRIBUTOR POINTS CAN BE EARLY TYPE OR LATER TYPE. I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING BUT THAT SHOULD HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE EITHER ONE OF THESE TRACTORS. I HAVE BOTH. I THINK EACH HAS ITS OWN STARTER AND THEY WON'T INTERCHANGE UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE FLYWHEEL I DO BELIEVE. OF COURSE EVERYTHING ON THE TE20 COSTS MORE I HAVE FOUND THAT IS DIFFERENT. BOTH ARE GREAT TRACTORS COMPARED TO THE FORD N SERIES TRACTORS WHICH USE THE INEFFICIENT FLAT HEAD ENGINES.I AM NOT PREJUDICED JUST NOT FOUND A GOOD DEAL ON A FORD YET THAT NEEDS TLC.I ALSO OWN A TO30 THAT IS CURRENTLY GETTING THE ONCE OVER BEFORE IT IS PUT INTO MY FLEET FOR SERVICE.

@johnmcbride7991

4 жыл бұрын

I have TO20-399. Do you know what year that would be?

@ibsoarin

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnmcbride7991 TO-20 serial numbers for 1948 are #1 - 1807. So your serial number #399 would indicate an early 1948 Ferguson TO-20. Please use good cooling system maintenance if your TO-20 has its original Continental Z120 engine so it does not overheat. You do not want cracks in the top webs between the cylinders - not so bad. But if you notice coolant in the oil then you have to worry about cracks at the lower ends which go through the crankshaft journals - very bad! Wet cylinders like in the Z120 engine are still used in diesel and industrial engines.

Thanks for this video. My neighbor and I were just talking about wether to cut that bracket off his tractor or not. Thanks for the video. Way better than the trash instructions it came with.

@radozeman

8 жыл бұрын

I know, both me and my dad where scratching our heads trying to figure out the instructions!

Very interesting video. Thanks. BTW - TE meant 'Tractor England' and TO meant 'Tractor Overseas'.

I have a 47 TE 20 with the z120 and i'm unsure whether it has a oil thrower or seal on the rear crank main oil seal, if anyone can tell me it would be much appreciated.

Nice tractor. Good to see other folks restoring these old beauties. I'm working on a 1950 TEA 20 and the alternator conversion is my next job. The 'TO' in the TO 20 nameplate stands for 'Tractor Overseas' while the 'TE' in the TEA 20 nameplate stands for 'Tractor England'. So the TE's are the European tractors and the TO's are the North American versions. Keep up the good work.

@ibsoarin

4 жыл бұрын

I assume the TE tractors were made in Coventry, England, UK and the TO tractors were made in Detroit, Michigan, USA. Does the TEA stand for petrol engine and TED stand for diesel engine?

@johnwalker5938

4 жыл бұрын

@@ibsoarin I think the 'A' was the designation for the Motor manufacture. The TEA used a power plant from the Standard Motor Company. There was a TE 20 and a TEB 20, both were petrol engines however unlike the TEA20 they used Continental Z engines.

@ibsoarin

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnwalker5938 I found a lot of information on Queensland Tractor Spares website: www.queenslandtractorspares.com.au The TE20-Serial-Numbers.pdf file had all of the information I was looking for - queenslandtractorspares.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/TE20-Serial-Numbers.pdf As you stated TE20 is a Ferguson tractor with Continental Z120 petrol engine, TEB20 is a Ferguson tractor with Continental Z120 petrol engine - Narrow (although I do not know what Narrow means). TEA20 is a Ferguson tractor with Standard petrol engine. TED20 is a Ferguson tractor with Standard Tractor Vaporising Oil (TVO) engine. I assume TVO is similar to kerosene. TEF20 is a Ferguson tractor with Standard diesel engine. I had no idea of the variety of engines provided for Ferguson TE20 series tractors! Way to go Harry Ferguson!

Could you tell us What belt you used, heard a shorter belt was needed 39'' , oe belt was 42'' so i find, Do you know what size belt you used on this kit

@radozeman

8 жыл бұрын

+Gary Brown If I recall correctly, we used the belt that came with the tractor, anyone's guess though as to what belt was on it.

6 VOLT STARTER TURNS OVER FASTER BUT ALSO MORE TORQUE. BUT HEATS UP FASTER SO NO LONG CRANKING OR BURN UP STARTER.

Did you change the system to a negative ground or leave it positive ground?

@radozeman

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Forbis If I recall, it was already a negative ground, so we didn't have to change anything.

We have a te20 it has a altimeter, gauge ignition switch( key), and a push button starter switch on the dash and a starter solinoid by the starter I have the kit from yesterday's tractor and was trying to get it hooked up so do you know how to get this all hooked up. Thanks

@radozeman

7 жыл бұрын

Not without looking at it!

The tractor kit for 6 to 12 volt is like the one you have so can you tell me how to hook it up with a altimeter and a key ignition and a push button starter on the dash it's like the instructions that came with it except the push button starter I hooked it up and it would start but it wouldn't shut off with the key

@radozeman

7 жыл бұрын

I know we had the same thing when we first wired it, it would not shut off. Don't remember anymore what we changed, it was something with the ignition and key.

For more info try FENA it is a Ferguson group

I have TO-19377. Would that be a To20 and what year? Also, has anyone repaired the hydraulic lift for the 3 point? Mine does not work anymore. Thanks

Do you know the specs on the V-belt? I am having a problem finding the proper length belt.

@radozeman

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry I do not

I didn't know that we could get Ferguson equipment in North America. I always thought it was European. cool video Randy

@radozeman

9 жыл бұрын

Iain Robson There are actually quite common, at least in the states anyway.

@WildBillplaysGame1964

9 жыл бұрын

Yes I can remember seeing them as a kid. I was about 10 to 15 years old the last time I saw any but the dealership I still see some of them to day

@radozeman

9 жыл бұрын

Bill Leaman Yes, really cool little tractor to.

Is it still positive ground or did you change that as well?

@radozeman

3 жыл бұрын

I don't recall if we changed that any more.

Did you have a regulator box needing to convert. To 12v or did you just put wires straight to a 12 v amp clock ? Why on earth did Harry make 6 volt system it's totally crap n causes probs . Good vid ant from Wales UK

@radozeman

8 жыл бұрын

+anthony preston No regulator, there should be one in the alternator for charging the battery, but nothing on the tractor.

@Squossifrage

8 жыл бұрын

There should be a regulator mounted on the firewall under the battery. EDIT: you said the original 6 V generator had already been replaced with a 6 V alternator. Whoever did that probably removed the old regulator and switched from positive to negative ground.

Did you switch the. Battery to a 12volt?

@radozeman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we did!

I am just about to buy a TEA20, the strange thing is I live in Quebec Canada. Does this mean my soon to be tractor predates the TO series arrival in North America? Can anybody tell me why this conversion is necessary and what are the chances of killing the starter earlier?

@radozeman

5 жыл бұрын

12v is a better system and you should not have a problem with the starter as long as you are careful with it.

@krimmer66

5 жыл бұрын

@@radozeman Thanks, i will look into it when some maintenance is needed!

I’m having trouble wiring my to-20 igniton switch to a solenoid for the starter

@radozeman

3 жыл бұрын

Basically a wire from the battery to the switch, then switch to the solenoid. Also heavy wire from battery to solenoid to starter.

Why did you choose a one-wire alternator instead of a 3-wire? Don't you have to rev the engine to get it to start charging? thanks

@radozeman

8 жыл бұрын

+Jim Buford The alternator came with the conversion kit. It charges at idle, just not much.

@graemedalgleish8944

2 жыл бұрын

Check ran a single wire alternator in the 70s and 80s, put out about 60 amps. They were a good unit.

@graemedalgleish8944

2 жыл бұрын

Darn spell check, should be chev.

Is your ground from your battery grounded to frame?

@michaeltomberlin9960

5 жыл бұрын

On the starter switch, starter goes to one side then the battery goes to other side?

@radozeman

4 жыл бұрын

Yes grounded to the frame.

So we don’t need the ragulator rite???thank

@lorinjones9082

5 жыл бұрын

On a Delco-Remy alternator the solid state regulator is built in to the case of the alternator.

Same size tractor as a ford 8n, right?

@radozeman

5 жыл бұрын

I believe so yes.

TE series tractor ENGLAND. TO series tractor OVERSEAS. TO made in detroit,michigan u.s.a. TE made in covenrty,england. you had it backwards

That's the exact kit I have, the alternator bracket is not lining up.

@flhusa1

5 жыл бұрын

I USED A CHROME PLATED CHEVY V8 ALTERNATOR BRACKET FROM THE AUTO PARTS STORE. YOU HAVE TO GRIND A LITTLE BIT OFF THE BRACKET TO CLEAR THE GOVERNOR LINKAGE AND IT WORKS GREAT. www.ebay.com/itm/CHROME-UPPER-ALTERNATOR-BRACKET-ARM-FOR-CHEVY-SMALL-BLOCK-WITH-SHORT-WATER-PUMP/122325504777?hash=item1c7b2b1309:g:mckAAOSw2KRbmUXN

Why did you do this conversion? Just wondering why people do it

@radozeman

7 жыл бұрын

Because it is hard to start the tractor on a 6 volt system.

See attached for models en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_TE20

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TO American built. TE English built

TO is American. TE is British.

Thanks for the video. I was just trying to convert my 20 today and that damn alt bracket!!...the belt is now 4 inches too long thanks to the bs instructions. so apparently the bracket doesn't sit square on top? from your vid it looks as though it sits about 45* on the block?..i bought my kit from yesterdays tractor, call the company and the guy said "our kits fit, you might have a tractor with some aftermarket mods, you may have to measure the belt and the pulleys to find out what belt you need then go to napa"...bs, your instructions suck!..i measured the original belt, 40.5" in line with manufacturer specs, wrapped a string around the pulleys with new alternator, 36"...so again the guy says i'm wrong and something isn't spec..NO! YOUR DIRECTIONS ARE CRAP!..how about a better picture on the directions....anyway, thanks for the video, going to try re-aligning that bracket tomorrow , see if that cures the fitment.

Ferguson is Massey Ferguson today...Henry Ford stole Ferguson's three point hitch design patent...big story on this. I believe the f20 was chosen to go to the north pole with Byrd's expidetion .Very simple rugged reliable tractor. Shalom

Yep you need to change your starter it's bad you can get a 12 volt starter in out of Canada win it tars up

@radozeman

3 жыл бұрын

Well until it goes bad, it'll work, just need to be careful with it being on 12v!

Looks like a lot like a Ford 8n red belly now who copied who im not even sure if that is the right name that I said don't hate if it's the wrong name

@radozeman

9 жыл бұрын

kylewil12plays I believe Ferguson copied Ford, and you are right Ford and Ferguson are very similar.

@tvengineer

8 жыл бұрын

+RDAllen copied from Yesterday's tractors About Ferguson TractorsHarry Ferguson, born in 1884, started experimenting with tractors and plows in his early years. Harry is an important person in tractor history, being the inventor of the 3-point hitch. It was dubbed the "Ferguson System". After meeting with Henry Ford in 1938, over a handshake it was agreed that the 3-point hitch system would be installed on the Ford tractors being produced at that time (Ford 9N from 1939-1942 and the 2N from 1942-1947). These tractors had the "Ferguson System" insignia on them and Harry Ferguson received a share of the profits.In 1947 Henry Ford's Grandson officially terminated this "handshake agreement". The Ford 8N tractors that were being produced around this time no longer carried the "Ferguson System" insignia. Ferguson sued the Ford Motor Co. and eventually won a settlement.In what some say is retaliation, Harry Ferguson began producing his own line of tractors, beginning with the TO-20 in 1948. These tractors looked suprisingly similar to the Ford 9N and 2N and sported the 3-point hitch.

@Squossifrage

8 жыл бұрын

No, it's the other way around. The 9N / 2N was designed by Ferguson and built by Ford in the US. The TE20 / TO20 was its direct successor and was built by Standard Motor co. in the UK, with some overlap with US production of the older models. The TO20 was built for export to the US and equipped with a Continental engine, while the TE20 was built for the UK and European market and had a range of Standard engines (small-bore / large-bore gasoline, diesel, kerosene, vaporizing oil). Ford broke the agreement with Ferguson and started building the Ford 8N, which infringed on numerous Ferguson patents, and ended up paying millions of dollars to Ferguson in an out-of-court settlement.

If you are sure about something you shouldn't be putting up a "how to" video, just saying

6 VOLT STARTER TURNS OVER FASTER BUT ALSO MORE TORQUE. BUT HEATS UP FASTER SO NO LONG CRANKING OR BURN UP STARTER.

@radozeman

5 жыл бұрын

Right exactly, also make sure starter fully winds down before engaging again.

@michaelguckian5373

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Was having panic attack about this. My old one just gave up. 6v stamped on it but using 12v for years.....1948 model btw.

Did you switch the. Battery to a 12volt?

@radozeman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we did! Just need to be careful with the starter!