This is kind of sad, but - no exaggeration - i've spent hundreds of hours on youtube listening to bass tones looking for the right bass for me. Pleased to report that after literally hundreds of videos, this tone is the best i've heard.

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

Man, that's a compliment.

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

So what are you going to do about it?

@alfieharries

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier ha, i dont know man. Keeping my eyes open for teles online but the prices atm are high. The japanese fender 51 reissues sound like they do a pretty good job at replicating the sound but i think im just going to wait for an original tele to come along. Wish me luck!

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

@@alfieharries Yes, I never thought those so called 'Sting basses' sounded anywhere close to a Telebass. But a 'regular' p-bass with the proper capacitor (and worn flatwounds!)??

@alfieharries

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier yea so i actually have a moollon p bass on its way. Its like a handmade copy of a 59 p. Gna stick an old pair of la bellas on it and see if it works for me. There just seems to be this magic combo on the tele basses of punchy mids but also this transparency in the tone which i havent heard anywhere else. The bass search is such a rabbit hole!

00:53 03:40 Both tone at full

@Jayeadgbe

3 жыл бұрын

1:18 4:24 Both tone closed (this is where the main difference between caps will be)

Sounds more like a standard P with the cap change. I like both tones.

Thanks for posting these Jasper. You are a tone and groove master. 🖖🏻👌🏼

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very helpful as I explore a new wiring configuration of a J type circuit. Thanks.

These are interesting vids...like the tone at :53 seconds best. Thanks for doing this. :)

Very good! Really liked the .1uf as well!

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

I kept it in there, also in my 'regular' p-bass. Really nice.

μ does stand for micro, you were right, mu is the name of the letter in Greek

@mjmohns

6 ай бұрын

and plenty of sciencey ppl will call it by “u” as a kind of shorthand even knowing it’s mu, so right on all counts!

Thank you Jasper..!

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

For several years I played a 80s USA Pbass I bought on Ebay that had a mini toggle behind the tone knob that switched between a .047 and .1 cap. The change was subtle but I enjoyed the bit of change. I was using E B Slinkys which fairly bright so the .1 cap cut was noticeable. Great video friend.

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

That's totally a great idea. I've had a couple of comments about this (also with 3-way switches). Thanks!

This is great thank you for the useful comparison (and great bass and sound!)

@mjmohns

6 ай бұрын

What were your findings playing through an amp? The volume diff when cutting highs is very noticeable in the line signal but interested to see if amplifying washes that out a bit.

@JasperMortier

6 ай бұрын

@@mjmohns First thanks for the compliments! That's always such a nice thing to find in your mailbox the first thing in the morning. On an amp - or I should say at the gig through an amp - I think the effect of the 0.1uF is too strong, but not per se cause of the volume, just things getting too muddy, not cutting through enough. I ended up hardly using it and always left the tone open. So on my main Pbass and on my Jbass I changed back to 0.05. Kind of best of both worlds. Warms up the sound perfectly and get rid of nasty fretboard/string sounds and keep it more open if you want a bit more moderen effect. I don't notice a volume drop when closing the tone no. Did you see my other video about putting in the resistor in the tone circuit too (like in the original 50's pbasses)? Talking about volume drop! I left it in just to have the choice. But I think it's more useful for recording or for a real Old School project, cause it really sounds funky. All the best! kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z46gstyEZ5ytltI.html

Great comparison. I'm about to switch the control harness/caps in a 51 P bass copy. Going with the .01 cap.

@JasperMortier

3 ай бұрын

Great choice!

Nicely done comparison. Both sound good, but the enhanced treble cut from the .1 uF cap seemed like it would be useful in getting a flatwound/motown sound. Seems the .1 has got more variation. I believe I'm going to change the caps on my P bass. Maybe get a new tone pot with a push/pull switch to go between a couple of capacitors, original and .1, without modding my pickguard.

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

The push/pull would be really cool! Yes, it really helps to get this Old School 60-ies early 70-ies sound. Something that's harder to achieve with just the EQ on your amp.

that tone is great!

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

What do you mean by "switch pot" 4:33 Sounds great by the way and I love your bass, very expensive here in the States for those old single coil Tele basses.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I mean 'Sweet spot'! All the way down it sucks up too much energy and attack for my taste with new the 0.1 μF cap. All the way down with the original 0.05 μF cap it became way too middy. So the sweet spot is somewhere in between. Yes, the Tele's used to be underrated compared to the 'regular' split coil p-bass for years, but are runners up nowadays. Still a bit of a one trick pony I think. I mostly play my precision I must say (in which I now too installed the 0.1 μF cap btw).

Thanks for this. I played a 1956 P bass a few years ago. I was surprised at how bright it was. What was really interesting was when I rolled the tone back, it out the highs, but it did not get muddy. Just rounded out the highs, and the sound was smoother. I am wondering if it was just the tone capacitor. Well, I’m going to order some, and experiment.

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Cool. Did you see my other video about the resistor that was in the circuit in the 50-ies? That could be a factor too. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z46gstyEZ5ytltI.html

Interesting.. Like the comparison. Thx for doing this one. I like parts of each. 150 and 450

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks (but what's '150 and 450'? 1 min 50? 4 min 50?)

I really like the sound with the new capacitor… That bass sounds really great. Can you share what strings you’re using on it they sound like flat wound but they’ve got a great tone. Thank you. Great video

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha. That's funny: 'They sound like flatwounds BUT they've got a great tone'! I guess it's time to try! La Bellas (760FM) yes! Thanks man.

wow that sounds amazing

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi. Great video! may I know what strings you use in this bass? all the best

@JasperMortier

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes of course! La Bella 760 FM (so those are flatwounds in the gauges .049 - .109). I've got the 'through body' ones, but I found out it doesn't matter. You can check out my post on Talkbasss if you're interested: www.talkbass.com/threads/la-bella-through-body-flatwounds-on-telecaster-bass-pictures-and-remarks.1344405/#post-21332057

Thanks!! I just did the swap to my Tele bass and Jazz and they sound sooo much better!!! Fully closed is way too dark but half way or even fully open it’s woah baby!!! Love it!!! Now I need to do it on my P 👍🏼

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

Wow. Cool! Yes totally closed is a bit too much indeed. Good luck.

Truefire! :)

So tell me about you thumb rest. Did you make it? It looks like you used an existing pickguard screw to mount it.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Aaaaah! I think I just drilled an extra hole..... I'm sorry, but there's already so many holes in a Fender body. And yes, it's just a small piece of pine I found in my barn which I painted.

this is a really really nice tone! what is pickup in this bass? strings? signal path?

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Stock p.u. (1971), La Bella .49-.109 flatwounds. Aguilar tone hammer straight in a line input (thus bypassing it's mike preamp) of a Focusrite Saffire. Ciao.

Cool groove u got going there! Are u in drop D? Love that bass too! Now, I think I like the original capacitor best! Seems to have a bit more punch in the low end, like what you get from analog tape. I'd keep the old one. Also, I've compared orange drops with Emerson paper&oil on my guitar, and I looove the paper&oil. Worth the price for me.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! No Drop D on this one no. I feel it's the other way around with the punch, but the 0,1 strongly effects the mids too I agree, so maybe you're looking for a diffent kind of power. A friend of mine keeps on buggin me about the Paper & Oil too, so that's probably worth a video in a while! 0,1 uF paper & oil is actually the original setup in the pre '57 p-bass (and maybe the first split coil models too??).

@MarceloAnez

5 жыл бұрын

Jasper Mortier Yes theres something going on in the low mids as the higher frequencies get filtered out. This is such a subjective thing, how/what we hear is so affected by what we like in a sound. With paper&oil i tried to brush it off as not a big deal, but in the end i just had to admit that i am happier when i feel the warmth of the p&o tone, while the orange drop doesnt excite me at all.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, then it's certainly worth a try. Any opninions about the difference between 'your' Emerson cap and this one? www.montreuxguitars.com/us/datalist/selectGoods.php?code=8927@@MarceloAnez

Very interesting results. It got me thinking about the fender Greasebucket tone circuit they put on 2000’s basses and strats. I’ve got it in my 2006 p-Bass. Most people just removed it because they did not understand. It’s a fascinating circuit. Fender described it as “cutting the highs without boosting the bass”. After a few people did some tests they determined that it is a variable low pass with an increased resonance peak. Meaning that it essentially results in a slight boost near the low pass cutoff frequency. So you can achieve a slight mid boost at a frequency you set by the tone. I really enjoy it on my p-Bass. I wonder if it might be something you would want to test?

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Wow. I’ll look into it! Did you see my other video? I put the extra resistor in there Fender used in the 50-ies. Maybe a bit similar. Fascinating the things you can do with passive components.

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z46gstyEZ5ytltI.html

@MichaelJ023

Жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier Yes, I actually watched the other video first. Regarding the Grease Bucket circuit, it is a bit hard to find information on usage on basses, but I found a video referring to the guitar, which should be the same. In this Video around 7:55 he plots the response curve with the Grease Bucket Mod. From his tests it shows that it reduces the bass as you go from half closed to fully closed tone. At the same time it does not cut as much treble at that range. This ends up cleaning up the mud when fully closed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nK1hu9epgpWdoJM.html

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelJ023 I’ll check!

Hi Jasper, Thanks a lot ! Actually I put 0,1 uF (micro) capacitors on all my p-basses. Except for one : a Nashguitars 51' p-bass which does sound really good yet a bit harsh, espacially in a band context. I just realized I had never made the change after watching your video, and this bass has just a tiny 473nF. I have just soldered an orange drop 473pF in parallel, so that makes almost 0,1uF total, and guess what - now it SOUNDS JUST PERFECT ! Gone is the harshness at 100% tone and ugly honkiness when backing it off up to 0%. Really wondering why the hell they changed to 0,05 uF one day - any idea ?

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

For my splitcoil p-bass I'm back to the ±0.05. I just want to get rid of some string buzz. My flats are already pretty dead so I don't need much help. I like the effect of the 0.1 in a controlled situation (studio, headphones, etc), but on a gig I always end up opening it pretty much all the way especially with a 0.1 in there. The 0.05 works more subtle and exactly in the frequency region for just this string buzz I think so maybe that's the reason? I still left the 0.1 in in my Tele- and my Jazzbass.

@paolozak3014

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier for the jazz bass the 61 electronics with the double stack makes a lot of sense : 0,1 uF is good for the neck pickup and 0,05 or even 0,02 is perfect for the bridge's pickup honkiness. Try it...

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

@@paolozak3014 Thanks. Yes I know, but it's bit too much for me to change the whole configuration on my Jazz. At the moment I put back roundwounds on there and use it only with the tone totally open (Larry Graham, baby!)

@paolozak3014

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier I have modified one of my 2 fender jazz basses and it sounds really awesome with roundwounds all pots open, no harshness whassuevvah :o) slap heaven, but not only slap

All tone caps are useful for different needs ... so best to have a switch with at least a .047 and .1 values ... at least for me

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Totally cool idea. I ran into a couple of guys who did this indeed.

i want to score a tektronix .1uf and use that in my bass (or guitar lol)

GREAT VIDEO!!! ...AND TONE!! ...and uF is "Micro Farad".. :)

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Ha ha, I know (by now)!

If you want your bass to sound even better get in touch with Emerson Guitars in Broken Arrow Oklahoma and get a paper-in-oil capacitor. I use them, the difference is astounding. They are about $17 dollars each. Well worth the money. P. S. That old tele sounds wonderful, thanks for sharing.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, that's it, now I'm gonna try. On their website I don't see the 0.1 uF though (0.047 is the highest), but I'll find something. Thanks!

@jomamma1750

5 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier Call them, maybe they will make it for you, the part does have their name on it. I know I would be interested in one with the larger uf, your bass sounds great.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

I found one on 'Reverb' but shipping to Europe is brutal. I'll sort something out. Thanks for the compliment.@@jomamma1750

@jomamma1750

5 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier You're welcome. I checked a little bit as well. There is a Danish company called Jensen that apparently makes paper-in-oil capacitors in Dennmark. They are marketed under the name Angela and are offered in the .1 uf rating. Also they come with silver leads which sounds like musician/audio grade quality to me. The advert mentioned that the .1uf capacitance was Leo Fenders original spec for the fretted electric bass guitar but was changed when too many converted guitar players complained about a lack of high end. If you are in Europe shipping from Dennmark is quite likely less dear than from the U.S.A. Good Luck!

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I heard about Angela. Didn't know they were actually Jensens. But I did find Russian K40Y-90 0.1 uF. I saw different people saying the Emersons are relabled Russian ones, but you may not agree. 1,30$+2,80€ shipment. Worth a try. I'll make a comparison video soon!@@jomamma1750

What pick up use fender telecaster ( manufacturer ) ?

@JasperMortier

2 жыл бұрын

It's just the stock (original) Fender pickup. The bass is from 1971. But there's real good replacements available (like Seymour Duncan (also an Antiquity version) or Nordstrand 51 Precision bass pickup.

I got 0.1uf tone capacitor but it is 400 volt. Does the volt change anything? Thank you

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

No nothing, it's only bigger in physical size. The power created by the pickups is in the milivolt range so 5 or 10 volt would in theory already be plenty.

@silentyouber2816

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier Thank you very much sir.

Hi Jasper, wat voor merk en type snaren gebruik jij op deze bas? Klinken als goed ingespeelde flat wounds.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Flats inderdaad! La Bellas 760 FM: iets dikker dan de standaard 45-105 - n.l. 49-109 - en net weer iets dunner dan de James Jamerson set. Mocht je dat toch dik lijken: ik was er heel snel aan gewend en je hebt nooit meer string buzz en echt veel meer punch. De FM is wel iets lastiger te vinden dan de andere genoemde 2, maar ze gaan vervolgens wel jaren mee. Ik heb toevallig een post op Talkbass geplaatst over exact deze snaren, maar dat gaat over verschil tussen de 'through body' (TB) versie en de normale versie. Groet! www.talkbass.com/threads/la-bella-through-body-flatwounds-on-telecaster-bass-pictures-and-remarks.1344405/#post-21332057

@inspector_7152

5 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier Dank je wel voor dit antwoord. Ga ik ook eens proberen op mijn Telebas uit 1969. Ik heb er nu D'addario Chromes op liggen maar die vind ik nog te helder klinken.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

@@inspector_7152 Heb ik ook een keer gehad, had ik het ook niet mee. Vond ze ook stijf trouwens, speelde niet lekker. Die LaBella's hebben echt dat soundje: super vet en prachtig midden, warm hoog. Gaan met de maanden en jaren alleen maar beter klinken. Nooit meer wat anders geprobeerd (behalve een stapje dikker dus). Leuk dat je ook een single coil tele hebt. Licht? Zwaar? Kleur?

@inspector_7152

5 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier Ik heb geen ervaring met flatwound snaren. Altijd alleen maar roundwounds gespeeld. Deze Telecaster bas heb ik nu sinds een paar weken en sinds ik laatst Michel van Schie zag met zijn Precision uit 1954 vond ik gelijk dat flatwound het soort snaar is dat eigenlijk bij dit soort bassen hoort. (Die precision klinkt overigens als een contrabas....) Bij jouw bas klinkt het laag schitterend met deze snaren. Mijn Tele is exact dezelfde uitvoering als die van jou. Hij weegt 4,3 kg.

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

@@inspector_7152 Wauw. Super om te horen. Te gek dat je er één gevonden hebt. La Bellas the way to go, geen twijfel!

WHERE DO I BUY THIS

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

For instance Ebay. Look for 'Orange Drop capacitor 0.1UF'. CDE is the brand that makes them nowadays, 715P means it's polypropylene. Get say at least 50 V, but most are like 200 or even 600V, but that doesn't matter to the sound. Just a few bucks!

I like the original better, it sounds more like a tele bass to me

What strings are u using?

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

La Bella flatwounds (760 FM = .049 - .069 - .089 - .109). A bit thicker than the regular, but not as brutal as the Jamerson's ones. These are the 'Trough body' version, but I don't think that's really necessary (see my post on Talkbass www.talkbass.com/threads/la-bella-through-body-flatwounds-on-telecaster-bass-pictures-and-remarks.1344405/#post-21332057).

if you left in the .1 wiuld you mind selling me the .05?

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, but I think I want to keep it with the bass in case I'm going to sell it in the future.

Plese. What is the volume capacitor? 500k or 1Meg?

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Just standard. That's 250 isn't it? I should check...

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

Pff, I'm so structured. I even have pictures on my computer! Yes 250k.

What would it sound like with no capacitor?

@JasperMortier

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much like with the tone control competely open.

@oscarsantos2608

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier ok 👍😊

That's micro, nano and pico Farad!!! The mu refers to the tube gain in an amplifier...

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

It's still confusing (since they use the Greek 'Mu' (μ) sign).

actualy the capasity of a capacitor is 0,1.10 ^(-6) F = 0.1µF

@JasperMortier

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's totally correct! It's stays confusing.

Don't be afraid of those MIDS

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more! I did go back to 0.05uF on my main P-bass. I'm experimenting at the moment with a cabinet with a 15" guitar speaker that has tons of mids.

@HF1600ie

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperMortier it's a matter of better presence while playing with a band. Makes a difference in the mix.

sounds like flats?

@JasperMortier

4 ай бұрын

La Bella, baby!

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2qrmrxrn5jZndo.html hör mal bitte rein - ich habe nur den PU neu gewickelt ... klingt doch nicht schlecht? oder?

Good job and thanks to show us these useful differences...I am laughing thinking to some forum discussion on talkbass.com where some guy wanted to convince people that changing caps was absolutely insignificant for improving tone...such a blasphemy 😉

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of discussion about the different makings (like ceramic, polyester, polypropylene film, paper in oil), so maybe he's referring to this? But a lot of people don't use the tone control to start with, so they're probably not really motivated to dig into the possibilities anyhow.

@gornlockheart

5 жыл бұрын

haha same thing happened to me

I would absolutely go down on him for that Precision

@JasperMortier

Жыл бұрын

Let's get not too excited now shall we??

try a .o22...you'll be surprised! i like them the best! you bass sounds great..good luck to you &happy new years!

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

I went from 0.05 to 0.1 and like it a lot. The 0.022 is in the opposite direction so I don't think that would be an improvement for me!

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

That's not completely true. It was the cap that was originally in my 66 jazz. I also made a video about replacing that one. Here starts the sample with the original cap: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6WAp8OHYZmZnZs.html

@joeballs5669

5 жыл бұрын

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE PLAYIN' BY YOURSELF..NOT PLAYING WITH A LIVE BAND. ,022AND BELOW ARE IN VARITONE CIRCUTS..THEY CUT THRU DRUM &LOUD GUITARS. .0.1 IS JUST MUD PLAYING OUT IN A BAR!@@JasperMortier

@JasperMortier

5 жыл бұрын

I do everything with mainly a live situation in mind cause that's where I come from. Plus I rarely close the control more than 50% anyway.

3 dollars for a 3 cents cap🤣🤣🤣🤣

micro farads is what we call it, not mu. mu is the Greek character but you don't use it for capacitance. For caps we use micro, nano, and pico farads. Common values for guitars and basses are .01uF, .022uF, .033uF, and .047uf

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes I know it by now! Too bad (or maybe better) you can't edit the video once it's published.

There is nosuch thing as a telecaster bass. That is a 50’s precision bass.

@JasperMortier

4 жыл бұрын

? My headstock says differently I'm affraid and they started to make splitcoil p-basses in '57 so that's still 50-ies! But I think I know what you mean.

@metashape

4 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Telecaster_Bass