“He was about 52 and the new wife was 19, the age difference was pronounced but based on how the story turns out the maturity level was probably close to equal” Dr G’s a savage 😂😂😂

@helpyourcattodrive

3 ай бұрын

He is.

@bobsmith1101

3 ай бұрын

What, not true?

@Aaron-kj8dv

3 ай бұрын

I think the argument "what do they even talk about?" is overused and used to justify someone's personal dislike for age gap relationships as if we don't have great interpersonal relationships at work with people decades older and younger than us. Now that I said that. What the fuck do they even talk about? lol

@amandamills6181

3 ай бұрын

& accurate

@TryNSave

3 ай бұрын

Still referred to Biden as “relatively honest”- savage, but not always accurate in his assessments.

“I would want all my children to die in a state of joy” What a ridiculous statement. I’m sure Jessica died in a state of terror.

@richardshirley2786

3 ай бұрын

This statement ranks with the world’s dumbest assembly of words.

@hodgeelmwood8677

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's like when people say, "They died doing what they loved." Maybe, but they're still dead!

@Ebani

3 ай бұрын

@@hodgeelmwood8677 Completely different situations though and while dead it would've happen eventually bc guess what, those ppl do what they love, main difference being they chose to do it themselves.

@alwa6954

2 ай бұрын

@@Ebani Jessica chose this and she loved it. Yes she's a child but she can still choose and love like any human. But the thing about "dying doing what you love," as people like to say to feel better about a tragic accident, is that they may love the activity, but when something goes catastrophically wrong and they are heading towards death, it's no longer something you love. They died in abject terror and fear. And I'm sure that plane was filled with little Jessica's screams of terror right up until they smashed into the ground. RIP little girl.

@sendmorerum8241

2 ай бұрын

@@alwa6954 Why do you think she chose this? She looked so tired and confused in that last interview. It wasn't her idea and I'm sure her father didn't explain her that flying sometimes kill people. She only did this to meet his expectations.

I remember the outrage when this happened and her mother being interviewed by the press. She was smiling the whole time, "She was an old soul and died doing what she loved". Made me sick.

@esteemedmortal5917

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, pretty sure nosediving into the ground isn’t anyone’s idea of dying doing what you love. Disgusting indeed.

@jrzygurl

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I remember when this happened.. that idiot father and the mother didn't seem to upset either....sickening

@vladimirpoutine7522

3 ай бұрын

The Jennings family is a living example of this narcissism.

@icin4d

3 ай бұрын

I commented almost the same thing. You're right. She seemed calmly at ease with what happened. At that time my youngest was 6 years old, and their birthdays were just days apart, and I just remember feeling anger when I heard that absurd comment.

@jameshatton4405

3 ай бұрын

So they were both Narcissists then! Both her parents being Narcissistic meant that this poor girl didn't stand a chance? If it wasn't the plane crash, then she would have died by some other thing that endangered her life at the hands of either parent?

This is so heart-breaking. A young girl's life cut short by a greedy, sensation-seeking narcissist who was supposed to PROTECT her.

@spinetingler-op6st

3 ай бұрын

The pilot sucked. He was 100 percent responsible for the kid's death.

@jusztinnemeti6380

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't try and diagnose anyone in the comments. You are quite possibly right, but we don't know for sure if he was a narcissist.

@fixfalcon2628

3 ай бұрын

Well, this is just a theory, my opinion...@@jusztinnemeti6380

@fixfalcon2628

3 ай бұрын

Correct@@spinetingler-op6st

@frankpaya690

3 ай бұрын

​@@jusztinnemeti6380reality check : If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and looks like a duck - It's probably - A DUCK!

Some people shouldn’t have kids

@Susan-lf2hl

3 ай бұрын

Especially narcissists

@drivethruabortion280

3 ай бұрын

Most.

@pavlovsdogman

3 ай бұрын

Facts

@isabellind1292

3 ай бұрын

What I find disturbing is this stunt culture whenever some adult performs yet another a high risk activity that wants to kill them so they can be applauded and celebrated and patted on the back for their efforts when they wind up dead so when (more often than not) any surviving children they left behind are glaringly omitted from the narrative so that no one knows how self-centered and irresponsible these parents really were.

@H_H_____

3 ай бұрын

​@@isabellind1292 Like the TV series Jacka$$es.

Never push you're dreams on your children. Let them do and be who they are.

@rosestorms5396

3 ай бұрын

@allenbanks9034you would be surprised of what people are capable of nowadays

@CraftAero

3 ай бұрын

Worked for Ivanka, but she knew when to bail.

@spinetingler-op6st

3 ай бұрын

Let them be who they are? How can a 7-year-old know who they are?

@SpookMeows13

3 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!!

@statementleaver8095

3 ай бұрын

Experience the Nightmare of PRIDE instead 😂😂

At 7 years old, she wasn't even really able to make an informed decision. Tragic and shameful.

@Milania717

3 ай бұрын

Best comment!!! And this folks is WHY kids should not be making decisions on their gender!!!

@janusn9

3 ай бұрын

​@@Milania717 For real.

@aes0p895

3 ай бұрын

@@Milania717 That doesn't make any sense. If we're using this as a lesson, then it's the parents who shouldn't be able to decide gender until the kid can make an informed decision.

@batkat0

3 ай бұрын

​@@Milania717 Another Fox news zombie. Culture wars and fear mongering over trans people so you're too distracted to demand real change and ethical behavior from your leaders.

@Ebani

3 ай бұрын

@@aes0p895 You obviously have learning dishabilities, hope life works for you bc it will be hard just to go through it when you have such problems.

I was a working general-aviation pilot and instructor, when this tragic event made the news. It surprised neither me nor my peers, because we’d been tracking the whole publicity stunt by then, and saw no good in promoting the myth of a child “pilot.” The media were lazy on the story, and if they’d bothered to feel the pulse of the aviation community at large, they’d have sensed great criticism. RIP, Jessica, the adults did you wrong.

@Studio23Media

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the media still does not seem to understand anything about aviation and largely ignores the aviation community.

@mizzmolly7649

3 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you. I'm a broadcast journalist, and we were extremely lazy on the story. Very lazy.

@cardinalRG

3 ай бұрын

@@mizzmolly7649 --Thanks for the thoughtful response, and don’t beat yourself up about it. Very clearly, yours is a responsible mindset. Unfortunately, in the face of positive lessons learned by the mainstream media, social media have emerged as an often, poor and misleading source of information. In 2021, a KZreadr faked an airborne emergency, and crashed his aircraft on camera, just to gain clicks. The mainstream media sniffed out the hoax pretty quickly, but it took the social-media world much longer to come to a correct reckoning, during which time many in the blogosphere defended and even praised the idiot. Last December, another KZreadr, Jenny Blalock, lost her life in an aircraft crash. But this only followed months’ worth of posted videos that displayed her woeful piloting skills, and that worried many of us for literal safety. Critics in comments sections and elsewhere were immediately and frequently shouted down by subscribers and other supporters whose rationale, oddly, seemed to center on her popularity and the entertainment value of her videos, as if that equated to actual piloting skill.

@Nocturnalux

2 ай бұрын

The media could not care less for the aviation community.

@StarkeyatRingo

17 күн бұрын

@@Nocturnalux or anything real that matters. we can see who puts money in their accounts

A completely innocent, adorable child with two self absorbed lunatics as parents. And definitely…the pilot in command made the ultimate decision that killed them all.

@NoIdea68

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@scratchy1704

3 ай бұрын

Yes,I 100% agree with you.Very selfish.

@ThatOpalGuy

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a certain political cult

@JoBlo321

3 ай бұрын

What boggles my mind is you have to be 16 to obtain your drivers license...but flying a plane...ah any age is sufficient! Seriously! Why is no one talking about that?

@trishoconnor2169

3 ай бұрын

But the crazy mom survived, to make money off a book about her daughter.

Poor girl had a narcissistic, immature, and fame seeking pathetic “father,” and what sounds like a delusional, disengaged, and uninvolved mother. RIP little girl.

@ThatOpalGuy

3 ай бұрын

Just another day in maga-ritaville

@mariatorres9789

3 ай бұрын

​@ThatOpalGuy You must not be from California. 😅 Most the rich there, voted for Biden.

@tuxitalk1World

3 ай бұрын

​@@ThatOpalGuyYou want to be remembered for dying at a young age? Biden can't even remember when his own son died of cancer, but he has to put his name in every memory he rewrites of Beau's life. A disillusioned old man who has no functional memory of his own dead son. Had Jessica's father lived, he'd be the same disillusioned man with his own version of his daughter's death to talk about, but nobody believes.

@creativemadness6758

3 ай бұрын

This reminds me of the “balloon boy” story where the dad faked that his kid was in basically a mylar balloon flying over the country. Countless rescue efforts where deployed only to find out in the end that the parents faked the whole thing as a way of getting reality tv show.

@meesalikeu

2 ай бұрын

just like ivanka

He sacrificed his child to feed his ego. So incredibly sad.

He never cared about Jessica’s dreams… this was all about HIM 🤬🤬🤬

@deboracopeland4795

3 ай бұрын

If he cared for his family he never would have cheated, left his family, and married another child.

@GenXfrom75

3 ай бұрын

@@deboracopeland4795 I’m not disagreeing

@pwallace5359

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think it was her dream at all.

@georgegarvey7338

3 ай бұрын

Yes, he did care about his daughter. Someone like you wouldn't understand that. She was an over achiever.

@GenXfrom75

3 ай бұрын

@@georgegarvey7338 that’s pathetic… she was terrified and he still made her do it. He killed her. No he didn’t give a care about his daughter.

Did she even have her training wheels off her bike yet???

@geraldfriend256

3 ай бұрын

What ,his new wife?

@JustMe-fo4ev

3 ай бұрын

@@geraldfriend256 lmao

@scratchy1704

3 ай бұрын

​@@geraldfriend256Good 1 😂

@ledzep3692

3 ай бұрын

Funny you mentioned that because my daughter was the same age at the time and I can remember her learning to ride her bicycle when this happened and she did have training wheels on then.

@dudeonbike800

3 ай бұрын

@@geraldfriend256 BRUTAL!!!!

Poor poor little girl - denied a childhood and killed by reckless adults. RIP I hope you are playing in heaven 🕊

@peteredwards7760

3 ай бұрын

Dreadful parents, poor girl.

@BlackWolf18C

3 ай бұрын

On average, three children are killed in auto accidents every day.

@leslijones4443

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackWolf18Cwell they are not at the wheel. This was criminal.

@ThatOpalGuy

3 ай бұрын

​@@leslijones4443that you know of

@copperspartan1643

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackWolf18CStatistically driving is much more dangerous, but there is something uniquely terrifying about heading towards the ground at high speed yet having enough time to process what is happening, knowing that you’re about to die.

Tragic. Reminds me of the quote: "Do not ask your children to strive for extraordinary lives. Such striving may seem admirable, but it is the way of foolishness. Help them instead to find the wonder and the marvel of an ordinary life. Show them the joy of tasting tomatoes, apples and pears. Show them how to cry when pets and people die. Show them the infinite pleasure in the touch of a hand. And make the ordinary come alive for them. The extraordinary will take care of itself." William Martin

@skreekarose3610

3 ай бұрын

Wow, such a beautiful quote!

@thegreencat9947

3 ай бұрын

The wonder and marvel of an ordinary life. I like that alot.💜😀

@batkat0

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, if you're only happy and fulfilled when the extraordinary stuff happens then you're probably going to be bored a lot. And you'll be chasing the feeling constantly and likely not in a good way. Finding joy in the little things is important.

@thegreencat9947

3 ай бұрын

@@batkat0 Be here now.🙏

@MaternalUnit

3 ай бұрын

I love this! Will share with my daughters. Thank you.

Poor little girl had the misfortune of being born to two poor parents.

@drivethruabortion280

3 ай бұрын

Many are.

These parents get filed in my "worst parents ever" cabinet.

@Hatbox948

3 ай бұрын

I wonder what happened to the father's 19 year old wife?

@SpookMeows13

3 ай бұрын

And rightly so. So terrible...

@murphychurch8251

3 ай бұрын

This child would have been better off as an orphan. Surrounded by irresponsible, selfish fools at an age where she had no chance to stand up for herself against these idiots.

@JeaneGenie

3 ай бұрын

​@@Hatbox948 Ran off with her 23yo boyfriend and his life insurance money.

@Hatbox948

3 ай бұрын

@@JeaneGenie I figured it would be something like that.

I remember this happening. And if I remember correctly, her mother said something along the lines of, 'she died doing something she loved.' This made me feel physically ill.

@Arcturus549

3 ай бұрын

Someone posted almost this exact comment before you. Seems likee you read it, changed a few words and posted. 😂

@icin4d

3 ай бұрын

@@Arcturus549 It's been a while. I couldn't remember if her mother said this or a relative. I do remember being angry at that sentiment thinking the last moments of the 7 year old's life was filled with terror.

@garysmith3173

3 ай бұрын

The poor child didn’t die doing something she loved. She died in absolute screaming terror. That’s the reality I’m afraid.

@inquisitivenessandcontempl9918

3 ай бұрын

What would you expect to hear from a mother who just lost her child and who is pushed by the journalists for a comment? She was obviously shocked. She didn't go out and made a statement. She was approached by an aggressive reporter who pushed her for reaction when the most ethical and natural thing would have been to leave her alone and let her mourn.

@JustMe-fo4ev

3 ай бұрын

@@Arcturus549 Yes because it's impossible for two people to have what'a a pretty common sentiment here. Great work, detective!

How on earth was this legal? A seven-year-old child with access to the controls of an aeroplane, and people are treating it as a festive occasion? If a seven-year-old was set to drive a car the adult responsible would be arrested, surely? What the hell?

My daughter is 7. She's very smart and capable. She has her own adult tools and has used saws. She can also cook pasta and eggs with minimal supervision. I would NEVER allow her to fly a plane.

@Shannonbarnesdr1

3 ай бұрын

thats awesome, she is learning a skill / trade with those tools, and independent skills with basic cooking, i was cooking the basics ( eggs, grill cheese, mac n cheese around 6 and 7 ) . - kids can and do fly safely, but with flight instructors, not with egotistical fathers, and while they can train when they are around 10, 11, 12 years old (individual maturity levels allowing of course) , but they cannot solo or be awarded a license until their 16th birthday.

@Cultofjami

3 ай бұрын

She shouldn't be handling saws. Sounds like you're just like the father in this story actually, just to a lesser degree.

@statementleaver8095

3 ай бұрын

Evidently You want Your Child to experience being with the Sharpest tool in the Box. Shame the Mother is a Sandwich short of a Picnic 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@erenoz2910

3 ай бұрын

You let a 7 year old operate a saw? What the fuck man?

@houseofsolomon2440

3 ай бұрын

Hand saw? Hack saw? Circular saw? Chop saw? Rip saw? Please be specific -

It's a classic situation: a parent trying to live vicariously through their child.

“The age difference was pronounced, but, based on how the story turns out, the maturity level was about equal.” 😅

@ashlipope5079

3 ай бұрын

Oh ya soooo funny psycho

@violetbowie7857

3 ай бұрын

Very insensitive.

Father "contacted the media". Enough said. So dumb, so sad.

She wasn't even flying the plane, so even if there was a record, she wouldn't have actually set a record...but they kept going?

@angelavolkov1126

3 ай бұрын

She was meant to be, excepting an emergency

@BODYBUILDERS_AGAINST_FEMINISM

3 ай бұрын

Yes that is what the video said

@madeleineprice3556

3 ай бұрын

are you guys dull? she is flying the plane, the adult copilot is assistance in the event of an emergency. To make such a record they were likely recording her flight the whole time to confirm it was her flying solely

@BODYBUILDERS_AGAINST_FEMINISM

3 ай бұрын

@@madeleineprice3556 okay thank you for your wildly speculative comment that contributed nothing to the conversation while insulting us at the same time thank you

@mindyschocolate

3 ай бұрын

@@madeleineprice3556she couldn’t take off or land the plane though. The adults did that. Definitely not flying the plane the whole time.

The day after it happened I saw her Mother on TV, SMILING with clear eyes while she said, "They both died doing what they loved. Who could ask for more than that?" How sick IS THAT???

@JustMe-fo4ev

3 ай бұрын

People respond to trauma and/or grieve in different ways. I think you come off worse here for your comment.

@stanhumphreys9282

3 ай бұрын

You're right. They did not die "doing what they loved." They died in abject terror before being smashed by the earth.

@markmarsh27

3 ай бұрын

@@stanhumphreys9282 I QUOTED what the Mother said the day after the crash. Wake up dimwit!

@AA-ed6ek

3 ай бұрын

@@nicolajane7389 Brave face my behind. You're sick.

@Balletcalvero

3 ай бұрын

Ok so both parents were clearly low-key abusive. Poor girl.

So basically, one vainglorious old fool got his daughter killed by handing her off to another even more vainglorious old fool with even less concerns for an unrelated child's welfare.

@feanorian21maglor38

3 ай бұрын

Yes, exactly right.

@taliabraver

3 ай бұрын

This man killed his daughter.

@v-town1980

3 ай бұрын

He wasn't old. Grow up.

It aggravates me that a vicarious parent can hijack and ruin their child’s childhood. I don’t like seeing kids pushed into adult behavior and think that it ruins the years of innocence that children deserve.

I kept thinking, her poor mother... and then got to about 11mins and went omg never mind. That poor kid never stood a chance.

@Fadingroses19

3 ай бұрын

I said the same thing !

Sounds like this unfortunate child drew two grossly inadequate parents.

He reminds me of one of those horrible parents that pushed their child into Hollywood acting back in the 1940s - 60s, not caring how their child felt about it.

@Mitch_Ryder

3 ай бұрын

Very true….but that definitely didn’t stop in the 60’s.

@Sea.and.sky.

3 ай бұрын

@@Mitch_Rydernor did this only start in the 40’s.

@andyny29

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, parents are still pushing their children into auditions in Hollywood and elsewhere today.😡

@RightsForZombies

3 ай бұрын

Hate to say it but stage parents are alive and kicking and no laws governing child actors’ wellbeing can substitute for good parents. I used to be a child actor and I knew a few insane stage mothers. Thankfully mine wasn’t, and I had an agent actually looking out for my best interests as well.

I remember this situation. I remember a reporter asking Jessica if she was scared. She did comment that the weather concerned her. All these years later and this story is still heartbreaking to me. The adults let her down and it cost her life.

This hits very close to home for me. When this happened, I was working ramp service for United Airlines. When the bodies were shipped back home, they arrived in SFO and I was the one that removed the boxes containing their bodies from the aircraft.

@kisaragistation5220

3 ай бұрын

Yours is a normal reaction. I remember a video of the mother pointing to a spot on the ground and saying to her 3 year old that's where her sister died, right there. 🫤

@deniseblackburn33

3 ай бұрын

Wow😢

Some people should never have kids.

@jakahl1470

3 ай бұрын

Seems like MOST people who have kids probably shouldn't have. Sad for this little girl.

@devilsoffspring5519

3 ай бұрын

@@jakahl1470 Having kids is like having a position of authority. The kinds of people that want it the most probably shouldn't have it!

How horribly tragic! 😢 That sweet innocent angel had no one to advocate (or even care) for her; neither of her biological contributors deserve to be called 'parent'. 😡

Her "mother" should have been investigated by CPS for the way she was "raising" the 3 year old.

@drivethruabortion280

3 ай бұрын

Not poor enough.

This happened when I was a student pilot myself (age 16), so this case has always fascinated me. Poor risk management due to get-there-itis is a common problem in aviation. So tragic that it had to claim a 7-year-old in this accident.

@davidgray1515

3 ай бұрын

The poor risk management is thinking you have to get to your destination so fast that you must take a flying machine. Way too many in the sky. Private flights should be severely restricted.

@PCLHH

3 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515 BS

@germb747

3 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515I disagree. General aviation is an important part of our national infrastructure, not to mention that we need legitimate training flights to take place so that we can develop the next generation of commercial pilots. Learning sound risk management is a part of that process, as is learning about when to commence a flight and when to cancel it.

@JustMe-fo4ev

3 ай бұрын

@@germb747 I agree with you but I do think CFIs need to be better screened. We've seen GA incidents recently where root cause was basically traced to poor CFIs

@Dyson_Cyberdynesystems

3 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515 get back in your hole. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

What a crazy mother If your child wanted to fly like “Peter Pan” you wouldn’t let him jump out of the bloody window. Thank you Dr Grande much appreciated x

@carlholland3819

3 ай бұрын

i believe the pavement would be bloody, not the window

@maxalberts2003

3 ай бұрын

Diane Linkletter. See "The Diane Linkletter Story" starring Divine and directed by John Waters. "Jiiiiiimmmmm!"

@frankpaya690

3 ай бұрын

Certainly not without a parachute

@GAshoneybear

3 ай бұрын

Somehow I think this mom wouldn't have minded.

@TheMotz55

3 ай бұрын

I remember a kid in our neighborhood had a superman costume and thought he could fly. Fortunately, he did not jump out of window but he did jump from a tree. He had the wind knocked out of him. After that, he never wore his superman costume...not even for Halloween.

the only saving grace of this story is that this poor girl is in a place where her parents can't hurt her anymore

@benjaminhenderson4786

3 ай бұрын

She isn't anywhere she's dead

"There are old pilots , and bold pilots ; but no old bold pilots".

@gogreen7794

3 ай бұрын

My father was an ATC and a private pilot. He said that a lot!

@jimarcher5255

3 ай бұрын

Everybody says it a lot

@PCLHH

3 ай бұрын

In the motorcycle circles they say: Those who show off, fall off.

@lindickison3055

3 ай бұрын

Long history of dance moms, soccer dads, Hollywood moms, etc....seeking their fame and glory thru children' s acheivements.

@Bax60

3 ай бұрын

There were some old bold pilots. But most of them died of old age by now

If someone else (an adult pilot) was piloting the plane, how could the child get recognition for making a historic flight?

@alisonwilson9749

3 ай бұрын

Basically even the 'record' was one big cheat.

@rheinhartsilvento2576

3 ай бұрын

Don't ask logical questions please

@uruloki2758

3 ай бұрын

It was all about the media attention.

@catherinehazur7336

2 ай бұрын

The highly experienced, so called CFI-PIC was likely actually piloting their light plane banking it into the strong winds of a Wyoming thunderstorm whilst the terrified child sat in the right hand seat, with the equally highly experienced dad of the year kibbitzing from behind, at least until the plane settled into a complete nosedive just before hitting ground zero. It was all an ill conceived, deceptive publicity stunt designed to dupe the gullible public, gone wrong right from the get go

So absolutely avoidably tragic.

A distracted and fatigued pilot, bad weather, and an overloaded aircraft. It's sad, but this accident was totally avoidable. Pilot Debrief would be shaking his head right now.

@darthsmack7090

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully he gets the issues with his channel sorted out. I really like him.

@houseofsolomon2440

3 ай бұрын

Mom was 100% loser. A squatter that doesn't permit any toys 🏆

@elliebellie7816

3 ай бұрын

I think he has already covered this accident.

@micheleeve6054

3 ай бұрын

@DigitalNeb` Just like JFK, JR. SORRY TO SAY. JFK was late to meet wife and sister in law, wh fractured Ankle in cast. ( flying unfamiliar aircraft) with precious cargo. I digress, He was a Beautiful young man, yet took many , necessayr while this risks. Very Tragic. he could have paid for an experienced pilot to fly to the dang Wedding.- Not a wise decision.( And not a choice for the little child could have formed). JFK JR, WAS THE ONLY HANDSOME CHILD OF THE ENTIRE KEMMEDY FAMILY, IMHO. JOHN -JOHN LOOKED LIKE HIS MOTHER. JACKIE. YOU can hate on me. Forgive my divergences, RIP INNOCENT LITTLE GIRL CHILD..

@gusm5128

3 ай бұрын

@@darthsmack7090me too

The post crash interviews with the mom were weird. She seemed so unemotional and even criticized people for putting teddy bears in the makeshift memorial near the crash site. :\

That footage of Jessica from her last interview is heartbreaking. I'm so sick of media and other institutions exploiting children in this way, in all ways of course, but she already needed intervention from narcissistic parents. Instead they enabled them.

@NicholasWolfwood-md7vm

3 ай бұрын

*cough Autumn's Armory *cough.

@areza15143

3 ай бұрын

Sorry, this was parent exploitation, not necessarily the media is responsibility.

"Fame, Makes a man take things over....Fame, What you get is no tomorrow." Song by David Bowie, John Lennon background vocals. Mom was batshit crazy and dad was pimping her out for fame. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande!

@chudleyflusher7132

3 ай бұрын

“Is it any wonder…”

@dickjohnson9582

3 ай бұрын

"Feeling so gay"

@ronfowlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Crap fame

Imagine being too young to drink, but your father thinks you're old enough to fly an aircraft.

@MakerInMotion

3 ай бұрын

Everyone drives a car when they're too young to drink.

@chouseification

3 ай бұрын

@@MakerInMotion when driving a car, you are not expected to regularly change radio frequencies and keep in contact with the ground regularly... nor do you have the wide array of odd instruments to master in a car. IFR flight controls on an airplane do take a while to learn, even if you're well above average intelligence, soloing at that age is simply stupid.

@Shannonbarnesdr1

3 ай бұрын

kids do fly, and can do it safely, but with a flight instructor, not a egotistical father.

@alabamaman1372

3 ай бұрын

Imagine a kid deciding their gender.

@mllee2008

3 ай бұрын

Imagine being too young to vote, drink, smoke, drive, get a tattoo, defend your country...but somehow old enough to decide to IRREVERSIBLY change/destroy your body by taking hormones then surgically mutilating healthy body parts!

The old saying "Just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean you should" comes to mind.

So sad for that girl, let down by both of her parents and never having had a chance to be a child and experience life fully. Anyone who's had any driving lessons in their late teens knows how overwhelming it could be at the beginning, I'd imagine learning to fly at 7 to be 100 times worse. Everyone around her, including the media, has betrayed that little girl by not calling authorities to put a stop to this madness.

I haven't heard about this. This father is crazy for putting his daughter in this danger! I would never put my kids in a dangerous situation!!!

@momof1576

3 ай бұрын

I remember this clearly. Her mother could only talk about how it brought her joy so it was fine.

@rosemadder5547

3 ай бұрын

Airplanes aren't typically dangerous. Do you put your kid in a car every day? And back then there weren't even seatbelt laws. Cars are by far more dangerous than a plane. And yet it's so normal you didn't even catch it. It's easy to be quick to judge, but you need to run it through some logic before you speak.

@johnw4659

3 ай бұрын

Your comparison is not a very valid one. This child was not simply being transported as a passenger from point A to point B. Nor was this a driving lesson in a wide-open vacant parking lot. This child was being pressed into a role that requires a level of maturity, skill, decision making and physical strength beyond the capabilities of many adults. The demands of basic cockpit management can be exhausting. The demands of passively sitting in a car seat on the way to the grocery store, while sleep inducing, are not necessarily tasking. @@rosemadder5547

@Arcturus549

3 ай бұрын

​@@momof1576It could just be a coping strategy. On the inside she could feel very different.

@andrewmoore2939

3 ай бұрын

yeah there is a difference though between having your 7yr old in the car or letting your 7yr old drive.@@rosemadder5547

The issue isn't the age itself, the issue is the pressure on Jessica to perform a flight she was not ready for, and may not have even been interested in doing.

@JustMe-fo4ev

3 ай бұрын

I still think it's far too young but agreed it was a number of variables all converging

I remember watching that interview with little Jessica. She was visibly concerned about the weather conditions, and appeared to have much more sense than the two adults. All she could do was follow who she thought were the ones who would protect her and have her best interests in mind. I was so incensed by the idiocy and selfishness of those morons.

One aspect of this story amazes me, partly because I suspect it's more common than I'd like to believe. People can grow into adulthood, become employed, own a house, be employed, have children and generally function in society while being completely delusional. They can have a completely bent view of reality but still get by. I suppose some die young by misadventure but it doesn't seem like a given.

@linmorell1813

3 ай бұрын

Excellent analyse

@usagiroxie

3 ай бұрын

If you meet one of them, all they do is create chaos. It's so weird to realise a lot of people don't have insight, maturity, and empathy. Even weirder is to realise they fake it.

I remember this. Both parents were nuts. The mom was all about never limiting her children and thus never deny their wants. She did not believe in saying "no" to her children. At the funeral, the younger sibling was outside the venue, in the rain, pedaling a tricycle on the side walk.

So glad you call out this behavior. This is just one manner of parental exploitation. There are so many other ways in which parents exploit their children for their pipe dreams. So sick.

We were the same age. I’ve never forgotten this little girl 😕 I remember seeing her on everything and hearing about the crash. Ridiculous trying to be famous though your child

She did not look like a happy little girl. 😢

@thegreencat9947

3 ай бұрын

My observation as well.

Oh, I was hoping you'd cover this case! It was such a sad story. Thank you so much, Dr. Grande.

I was going to write, "I hope this tragic young girl's mother is wracked with guilt" but not long after that thought came to me, you began to describe her mother and her personality. I then immediately thought she wouldn't feel any guilt. Some seconds after that you confirmed my instinct when you quoted her as saying, "that she hoped all of her children died in a state of joy". Is it possible for a mother to be so unaware and callous that she is incapable of picturing the real scene of her daughter's death? Not a scene of her daughter being in a state of joy but extreme horror, screaming as the ground comes toward her.

This story is similar to the "Balloon Boy," boondoggle that occurred years ago; boys dad said boy was hoisted into the air by homemade balloon, but his son was actually sleeping in the garage attic after a large ground/air rescue attempt. Did you ever do a segment on the "Balloon Boy?"

@DavianSinner

3 ай бұрын

Right, and I believe the dads ultimate goal was a reality TV show.

@notmyname3883

3 ай бұрын

Not "sleeping," but HIDING. Dad planned it all.

@isabellind1292

3 ай бұрын

Except that was no hoax. If you look at the documentaries that have been made since the media decided to run w/that narrative in order to exploit what happened, it's evident that nothing remotely spoke to it being a stunt gone wrong.

@ep6287

3 ай бұрын

Similar narcissism but at least he did the bare minimum to keep his kid physically safe

@barbaradoug5768

3 ай бұрын

He did indeed cover balloon boy kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJlry5ejkr3Sp5s.htmlsi=3XHUzasJeNve9Ig0

Very sad. I’m glad laws have been passed to prevent this from happening again.

I did dozens of trans continental flights before I was seven. Mostly on American Airlines.

@momof1576

3 ай бұрын

Right?!

@thomaslance5428

3 ай бұрын

Lmao

@ratoim

3 ай бұрын

NGL, you had me in the first half.😮😂

@loribethkerns5785

3 ай бұрын

I'll take never happen for $800 Alex😂

@Zippythewondersquirrel

3 ай бұрын

@@loribethkerns5785children CAN be passengers.

It’s hard to be kind when faced with such stupidity that cost a child their life. Flying a plane is nothing like driving a car.

@Deploracle

3 ай бұрын

Believe it or not, there is no minimum age for flight training in the USA. You must be at least 16 to fly solo. The reason there is no minimum age for flight training is because flying is actually easier than driving (the sky is largely empty space). I don't think there would be any harm in letting her fly around from time to time with her instructor. By the time she turned 16 she'd have considerable practical experience behind the yoke than most youngsters are equipped with. The issue, IMO, was her father's obsession with fame. Flying coast to coast and back would be like letting your 7-year old climb Mt Everest, unassisted. It's criminal really.

@NPC-fl3gq

3 ай бұрын

​@@Deploracle As a former pilot, no, flying is not easier. I won't even bother explaining the many many reasons why. It should be obvious even to non pilots. And yes, I can drive cars.

@Deploracle

3 ай бұрын

@@NPC-fl3gq I disagree. That Tennessee KZreadr, who honestly couldn't fly her way out of a wet paper bag, managed to stay alive long enough become KZread famous. She couldn't have lived that long if flying was that difficult. .. and who said I don't fly airplanes?

@NPC-fl3gq

3 ай бұрын

@@Deploracle A) I didn't say you weren't a pilot (are you!?) And B) if being KZread famous is your bar for anything then your standards are very low. C) she's dead now. And not in a car crash. D) how many plane accidents do you think there would be if just as many people flew airplanes as they do drive cars!? E) having a mostly empty sky is not enough in itself to make someone safe in an aircraft. F) I can literally go on and on with endless reasons why you're unbelievably wrong, but I have better things to do.

@NPC-fl3gq

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention that the experienced pilot, whom they think may have been PIC, crashed. Easy.

Imagine having ur life taken away from you because of ur father’s greed and ur own mother stands up for it. They see no injustice in this and that’s terrifying, that poor lil girl had no chance.

I remember this. The parents reportedly did not let Jessica play with toys. What a couple of @$$holes! Child abuse!

I am going to turn 40 this year. I have no kids. I think to myself, would it be fair to have a kid now and be like 50 when they are 10? This guy had a kid at 50, divorced at 51, remarried a girl closer to his newborns age and was in the grave by 57. Girl Dads Gone Wild lol rest in peace young one.

@sylentknight

3 ай бұрын

you've matured and should be hitting your financial stride as a man around late 30's early 40's, you should have a vast amount of knowledge and wisdom to bestow upon your child if you wish to have one around this age.

@jessepitt

3 ай бұрын

I’m 43, my son is 5 and my daughter is 2. We just wanted to have our shit together before we had kids and we are slow I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️. Although I am not as endlessly energetic as I was in my twenties, I am far more patient and sensitive too. I think that is more important than just not being an old fart when they graduate college.

@janeen70

3 ай бұрын

Many have children when they are too young, irresponsible and selfish. Those kids often get raised by grandparents. What is unfair to children is bringing them into this world when you are not prepared to care for them and put their needs ahead of your own. The fact that you are concerned about how your age might impact a child, tells me that you would make an excellent father! Forty is not too old. Wisdom, patience and stability are far more important than youthful energy.

@auemmjee

3 ай бұрын

​@@sylentknightmy father was 52 when I was born. He was incredibly successful at that point but lacked wisdom even up until the day he died at 93. Seven years after I was born he went through his third divorce. Believe it or not he was actually considering getting married a fourth time in his 80s.

@hamsterama

3 ай бұрын

Hey there, I'm a lot like you! Just wanted to let you know you're not alone. I'm female, and the same age as you. I also have no kids, and no desire to have any. I would not have the energy to deal with babies or toddlers, all while having a full-time job. Babies will mess with your sleep, and I'm someone who has a hard time even dealing with daylight savings time. Toddlers need to be constantly supervised, and don't get me started on the terrible twos. However, my two sisters have kids, and I spoil my nieces and nephew with lots and lots of toys. :)

I never knew the power of sleep deprivation on our minds until I became an EMT. It legitimately makes it impossible to think straight, read straight, all kinds of things. And you don't catch it til you've probably messed up more times than you know.

@ThePinkPanth3r

3 ай бұрын

I found out in highschool trying to take a math test on 45 minutes of sleep. Your brain kind of feels on fire and just useless.

@bruceharkness4497

3 ай бұрын

No kidding, I occasionally went to one of our plants and worked all night through. Around 2-3AM I needed a calculator to add 1+1.

@garymitchell5899

3 ай бұрын

​@@bruceharkness4497Staying up and functioning until 3am is perfectly possible for almost anyone. Pls tell me you don't have any responsibility at work.

@garymitchell5899

3 ай бұрын

EMT admitting reckless negligence. Great.

@bruceharkness4497

3 ай бұрын

@@garymitchell5899 No, I am retired now. Sleep deprivation is a real thing, when your waking and sleeping hours get swapped for a few days.

This is absolutely horrific and outrageous. That poor little girl. She didn't have a chance with those "parents" of hers. Why were they given that special clearance that day? my word. Beyond tragic

Dr. Grande, Thank you for covering this case. I saw a lot of videos about this tragedy, but you pointed out something I'd never heard before. The fact that the PIC and the father should have skipped the interviews on the fateful morning ahead of bad weather but put their own glory above safety. When you see Jessica during her interview that morning, she was obviously terrified. You can see it. RIP Jessica, We love you

This parent reminds me of people on the Pacific Crest Trail who say their dog wants the hike 2,600 miles with them. No fool. 😂 You want your dog to hike 2,600 miles WITH YOU.

@evelynwaugh4053

3 ай бұрын

You can't be serious. Your dog has 4 legs, and probably 10 times your stamina and interest in nature. As long as a hiker used protective canine foot gear and was cautious about heights and other dangers (heat/cold, insects, dogs need to be leashed around cliffs and predators), most conditioned dogs would have a blast. However, cats and dogs don't like skateboarding or surfing.

@janpsillos5513

3 ай бұрын

I do feel sorry for the old dogs t hat are huffing and puffing with COPD.

@jessicaolson490

3 ай бұрын

I mean they still got a point, the dog is not aware of the trail path, just follows along.

As a pilot, I have to say that this was an excellent analysis of a tragic crash. We in aviation knew that there was no significance to the flight. As Dr. Grande pointed out, you have to be sixteen to even have a student pilot's certificate, but that would negate the "youngest pilot" benefit. Taking off in the face of an approaching thunderstorm was extremely dumb - but we can only imagine the pressure that Joe Reid was under. Weather generally moves from west to east. Waiting until that thunderstorm passed would mean that that particular line of weather would then be blocking their path eastbound, causing a delay of a day...or more! A more seasoned pilot might have been able to tell Jessica's father, "No, we're not going." But the "power gradient" on that flight favored the father, even though he was not an actual pilot. Sad. Very, very sad.

I work for CPS & unfortunately a responsible adult didn't intervene.

@ericacross7337

3 ай бұрын

That's always the saddest part of these kinds of stories. A bunch of supposedly intelligent people let all of this happen even when they knew it had a good chance of ending this way

Unbelievable history of irresponsability of father, pilot, authorities, and media! Tragic end of a child life

The kid is basically a dressed up doll and exploited. Using kids like this is perverse and sickening. The reporters are in lots of ways similar with the 1 to 1 interview with the kid after each flight on the tarmac. This kid has no idea of the manipulation or why , at 7 years old (attention; acceptance by their peers,) Basic psychology tells you the parents allowing this are disgusting .At 7 the thought processes and influences, the kid reacts off them 100 %.

He was using his child to fuel his own egomania. How deeply sad.

This is what happens when parents live vicariously through their children. 💔😢

Fascinating story, I love the details you decide to include, the mayor sticks out, and the fact that Lloyd did not hold a pilot license, and TV interview notes. But the spiritual healer and squatter is quite the descriptor, did Jessica really die in a state of joy, I think not.

@GrandDawggy

3 ай бұрын

I think that part was the mother deluding herself into the belief her daughter didn't die in abject terror. Poor kid, I hate those who endanger peoples lives.

@barbaracollins5605

3 ай бұрын

Squatter as a job title was too good not to mention.

I remember when this happened. I was at my uncle's house, he's a military pilot, or was at the time. He said that the way it ended was the only way it could have ended, and that anyone who flies light aircraft is suicidal. He then began making rather cruel jokes about their deaths. PTSD gives you a funny sense of humor, I guess.

@chesterfinecat7588

3 ай бұрын

Don't need PTSD to laugh at general aviation screw-ups. If ego kept you aloft there'd never be another crash.

@rosemadder5547

3 ай бұрын

​@@chesterfinecat7588 She's talking about gallows humor, not aviation screw ups

@Flamsterette

3 ай бұрын

Gotta love a morbid sense of humor!

@GeorgeSemel

3 ай бұрын

I don't know, I spent a 47 year career and living flying light aircraft, both airplanes and helicopters and I am far from suicidal. The only Cessna airplane I refused to fly is the C-177 Cardinal.

@karljeffries4848

3 ай бұрын

@@GeorgeSemel I don’t know anything about light aircraft, just what my uncle thinks about light aircraft. He’s wrong about things as often as anyone else though.

I’m Kenny Dubroff, Lloyd’s grandson. By society’s standards, My grandpa was different. His wife is also different. This makes it easy to pass judgement, especially in the face of tragedy. Allow me to clarify a few things: First, I’ll start by saying I was 16 at the time of the accident. I don’t claim to know what went on in my grandpa’s head, or why he rushed the flight. What I can say for certain: 1. Because of the way she was raised, without traditional toys, being allowed to do things under supervision that are deemed dangerous to most (such as using sharp knives and cooking) - this also meant she was very mature for her age. I told people at the time that her and her brother were far more mature than I was and they were half my age. When they built things with tools, they absolutely experienced joy and pleasure as most kids would when they played with toys. 2. I had the pleasure of being in the plane while Jessica flew at Half Moon Bay. She took off, made a small loop and landed. During this flight, her instructor asked her several questions including where she would land if the plane were to experience a critical failure or they otherwise had an emergency that required immediate landing. After surveying her surroundings, she chose a nearby field that wasn’t near any houses and clear of a nearby wooded area. I’ve been a passenger in many commercial planes, small planes, and helicopters. I felt most at ease while she was at the helm. Her landing was the smoothest I’ve experienced - and many pilots will tell you it’s the landing that’s hardest to stick. 3. With my mom’s permission (who is close to society’s standards of a typical mom) my grandpa allowed me to have the experience of piloting a helicopter when I was around the same age as Jessica was when she started flying. It was under direction of an instructor and he did the take-off and landing. He allowed me to briefly take the controls. I loved it, but I was very scared and didn’t want to do it again. I told my grandpa this and it was never an issue. He didn’t pressure me to fly or talk about any grandiose plans. There was no hint of him trying to live through me - he just wanted me to have a unique experience and have a good time. Some things I believe: 1. My grandpa believed in letting his children live up to their full potential. Jessica absolutely loved to fly. I’ve never seen anyone as excited or absolutely joyful as her when she behind the controls of that plane. I don’t believe he pressured HER to fly. 2. I don’t recall who’s idea the trip was. I believe Jessica came up with the name for the voyage. She was thrilled to be participating in it. 3. This is obviously a tragedy that could have been avoided. I’ve never believed the plane should’ve taken off in the weather it did with the weight it was carrying. I don’t doubt excitement about the media buzz played a part in the decision to take off that day. I just want everyone to know that my grandpa didn’t have bad intentions and if he thought he was putting anyone’s life in jeopardy, he wouldn’t have allowed the plane to depart that day. Our family thought it was safe - getting into a car is more risky than getting into a plane on most days. At the time, the FAA put no age restriction on operating a plane with a qualified instructor at the helm. I also believe children should be allowed to experience all this world has to offer in a safe way. That includes playing with toys, and using tools.

@krazyoldkatlady192

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, but they should be able to experience life at the appropriate ages and stages, not flying an airplane cross country at 7. Also, raising a child that way leaves them with no childhood at all, which is not good for them. My son had toys, he graduated with high honors and is now in doing well in college and in life. He takes care of himself. It’s not a crime to let a kid be a kid. That said, I am sorry for your loss.

@kennydubroff7772

3 ай бұрын

@@krazyoldkatlady192you seem to think they had no toys. Tools were their toys. They didn’t want to play with things like dolls when given the opportunity. They learned to create things with their imagination and things that were practical. They learned valuable life skills. They grew physically, emotionally, and spiritually. I believe children should be allowed to do things like fly airplanes when it’s done in a safe way. This was not done in a safe way and I’m aware of that

@kisaragistation5220

3 ай бұрын

I don't understand why her mother thinks toys are bad. Any psychologist will tell you that playing with toys is actually a form of developmental therapy for children. I also do not understand the desire to make them grow up quickly. Jessica had her whole life to learn how to perform other tasks. But you only get one chance at being a child. Nowadays there are adults who are regressing back to childhood habits of collecting toys, playing games etc. because they are trying to reclaim a childhood they feel they missed. Very common in the competitive dance and pageant worlds for example.

@kisaragistation5220

3 ай бұрын

​@@kennydubroff7772 Did their mother teach them how to play with dolls? Did she role play with them? Because I know she taught Jessica the phrase "tools not toys". It seems she thought toys were rather useless objects. Playing with dolls is actually very beneficial activity. Even little boys should be taught role play with their own action figures.

@kisaragistation5220

3 ай бұрын

​@@kennydubroff7772 If a child wants to be a Formula 1 Driver I would support it but I would not let a 7 year old behind the wheel of an actual Formula 1 car. I would give them books to support their interest. Ask for a tour or go see a race. I would find out if they can do a simulation of sorts. And if they are much older with a more developed brain with the true ability to consent, then I might look at lessons. IF they still are interested and it's not just an experimental faze as most kids go through. So if Jessica wanted to fly, there were ways to encourage that absolutely. But at seven years old she was not developmentally capable of consenting to the potential risks involved in such an activity. So I think and wish the actual flying part would have waited.

Isn't tiredness just as bad as being under the influence? Imagine being under the influence, at the same time as being 7 AND trying to fly a plane. Imagine your dad being the one to hand you the bottle and put you into the pilot seat. Poor Jessica. If only she were 10 years older, a flight adventure might have been a legitimate way to get the skills and experience needed to emancipate herself and get away from her reckless parents.

Currently dealing with a narcissistic parent at work trying to project himself onto his daughter. Ugh

That poor little girl never stood a chance. She had two horrible parents. It’s one thing for the father to sacrifice his own life for fame but it’s another to drag your child down with you. People talk down about the Kardashians but Kris never put those girls in danger. If you really want to be famous at least do it in a safe way for your children.

@bergamottea1206

3 ай бұрын

I think the father was in it for the financial rewards of fame more than the fame itself. He saw an opportunity for a scam and went for it.

"...lived in the San Francisco Bay area..." summed it up.

Not only did her mother say she died doing what she loved (think of her terror as she plummeted to the earth) but earlier when asked if her daughter was scared she said “Jessica doesn’t do worry”. She was completely insufferable. I remember hearing that they found her father in the position of his arms being wrapped around her from the backseat. I don’t know how they could tell that from the wreckage photo shown here, but I can only imagine how he might have felt. Poor Jessica. 💔

@vintage6346

3 ай бұрын

His arms "wrapped around her from the back seat"...? Was he trying to protect his daughter? Or, maybe her father was using his daughter as a shield for himself.

I remember when this happened very clearly. I was kind of disappointed at first when I heard that Guinness would not recognize the attempt, because they didn't want to do anything that would encourage putting children at risk. I thought that having an experienced pilot right beside her would make the risk just as minimal as taking your child with you on a plane. I was dead wrong about that. I'm glad that they changed the law so that would never happen again.

@lobstermash

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't just put children at risk. A plane falling out of control can fall on a crowd, a house, a bus ... killing and maiming a number of people.

@james9524

3 ай бұрын

@@lobstermash In hindsight, it's pretty obvious that the actions of the pilot were reckless. With a better instructor I'm sure that the outcome would have been different, but there is no way a seven year old could have been expected to know who the right person for the job was, and just how clueless her father was.

In addition to everything else wrong with this flight the Cessna 177 was a bad choice. With its laminar flow wing and all-flying stabilator it requires closer attention to the numbers (like stall speeds) than the more numerous 172. Lots of pilots have gotten into trouble by trying to fly the Cardinal as if it were a Skyhawk.

@marcseclecticstuff9497

3 ай бұрын

I think 172 would have been a poor choice for this trip, too small, not enough margin. FIne if you're flying around the close to the ground, dangerous when you're over-weight, and potentially deadly at higher elevations where density altitude becomes a major factor. Not to mention the 10 weather related red flags associated with flying in April across the north. PIC had no mountain experience, not even IFR rated. I just can't comprehend why he would agree to this flight in any aircraft....

Here in Australia we have a road safety set of commercials and one of them says the following "never trust your tired self"! It's very true and most certainly impacted the poor decision to take off from Cheyenne, which the pilot made that day! As adults and as parents, we have a grave responsibility to keep our children safe whether they are our own children or other people's. They can not stand up for themselves, and this poor little girl was failed by all the adults surrounding her. Mum was a froot loop who thought that sharp kitchen knives were a better option for her 3 tear old than a doll and Jessica would have been raised in the same fashion. I cannot respond to the "mother's" parenting style in either of the 2 languages that I can swear in or my comment would be denied! Poor little Jessica is 3 months younger than the son I gave birth to in 1988 and while he was able to enjoy being a child during his childhood, Jessica, because she was SO unfortunate to be sired by these 2 moronic and selfish human beings has been in a grave for nearly 28 years and THAT is qrong! Thank you Dr Grande for reminding me of this tragic tale of adult neglect.

So sad. Flying is risky without proper expertise & lack of ego. That age difference is terrible. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟

This could have been avoided by, eh…staying at home. He did not deserve that child.

As an aviation major I’ve been very impressed with your research on the subject. You know more about trim tabs and bad weather flying than the supposedly experienced pilot subjects of your videos. This was a totally preventable accident with too much motivation to continue on. I barely remember being 7 years old, and am glad I waited until 17 to start flying lessons.

It became clear that Jessica's dad was trying to live vicariously through his daughter; this (along with the notoriety) clearly mattered more to him than Jessica's life and safety. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande, for your thoughtful analysis.

I live in Cheyenne, and I remember that day vividly! I was and am shocked that anyone would let such a young, beautiful child do anything like that! Attention seeking "parents" let their child do something that no child should be doing. Senselessness caused the child her life and that of the instructor. 😢😢

Grande never lets us down w at least two or three Grande zingers per video! Such wry commentary.❤🔑💯

Dr. Grande I absolutely love aviation. This is super sad and some very poor parenting. Flying is to be handled with respect. So dang sad. 70 in Hawaii 🌴🌺

actually, it was a cat named Toonces who was at the controls.

@k.ohalloran8758

3 ай бұрын

“Watch out for that cliff!” 😂

@DavianSinner

3 ай бұрын

Lol. He drives around, all over the town...

@thomaslance5428

3 ай бұрын

Who?

@svenskanorsk

3 ай бұрын

😂

I've been remembering this. The news showed the little girl making a phone call just before the last take off. She mentioned the bad weather and was clearly frightened. Poor kid.

I heard the crash. It happened right down the road from my place. It was awful 😞

Dear Dr. Grande. What a sad case, especially for dear Jessica. May she rest in peace. ❤❤from Jean.

I remember this - the mom showed up at the grave with her other child strapped to her. I was a child myself and wondered if she realized her daughter died for no reason and hoped her other child would be okay with her as a parent making decisions.

That 20-year-old Cessna Cardinal must have been really beat up. It was famous for having take-off and landing issues. It was under-powered and tended to "porpoise" while ascending. The company tried upping the power and initiated a voluntary (larger) horizontal stabilizer replacement program. This helped but by then its reputation was ruined so it was scrapped in 1978. So, that plane was just as tired and incompetent as the pilot.

EXACTLY,, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT A YOUNG GIRL TO DO SUCH A RISKY STUNT LIKE THAT?

@momof1576

3 ай бұрын

It was criminal negligence

@Flamsterette

3 ай бұрын

WHY WOULD ANYONE INCLUDE TWO COMMAS WHEN ONLY ONE IS NECESSARY?

@micnorton9487

3 ай бұрын

@@Flamsterette Jesus Christ,, didn't the Doc include enough witty quips to reduce people's grammar notsee tendencies? ,,,,,,,,☮️

@Flamsterette

3 ай бұрын

@@micnorton9487 Nope.

@micnorton9487

3 ай бұрын

@@momof1576 Agree,, I sometimes resent the Doc for doing such depressing stories... True crime is always senseless and sad but this case, the little girl just wanted to please her father and it's as sad as the case in massachusetts, where an argument between a guy and another guy and his wife over snow escalated into a shouting match and then the one guy got a rifle and shot the guy and his wife..... Then the guy went and eliminated himself, I totally senseless thing over some words and if people would have just mellowed out nothing would have happened....... This poor kid was just along for the ride,, just depressing...