Fat Joe introduced Pun to the world, but it was Pun’s lyrics that blew ish up!!! Don’t get it phuked up! It was Pun’s ridiculous rapping skills that ultimately made the shyt pop.

@jmjfanss

3 жыл бұрын

but pun also would not like the direction music has become since he died, come on reggaeton (aside from a few, the rest are just pathetic), not good.

@brooklynbully1940

3 жыл бұрын

FAT JOE ALSO TAUGHT HIM HOW TO MAKE SONGS. HE A&R'D HIS ALBUM

@julianhampton8799

3 жыл бұрын

He put him on and Developed him Facts cause im definitely a pun fan. But Without joe there was no Mainstream BIG PUN

@deluxerecordings7

2 жыл бұрын

@@julianhampton8799 that is true,but thats why Fat Joe did not do what he was suppose to do after his death because his approach was “I made Pun” so im keeping the 💰💰🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@deluxerecordings7

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯💯

I see Big Pun in title, I click.

Joe is on point with family making claims when other members die. I would stay out of it as well. Some things cannot be fixed.

Wish Nore would’ve asked about Big L & D.i.T.C...

Puns wordsmithing and word formatting is second to none on the rhyming scheme

@jmjfanss

2 жыл бұрын

And nobody will ever be as good as the late pun, he was a masterpiece

@batmanandrobin250

Жыл бұрын

Pun the goat

@chrisjohnson4272

3 ай бұрын

Criminally underrated Big Pun

I feel Joe's point, he's right he offered terms and they didn't want it, 20 years later he's still rich but not bc of pun, what else they want?

@davidfinland00007

Жыл бұрын

Liza Rios just looking for a hand out

You only see peoples true colours after someone dies.

It’s weird how Joe left out how that he was sued for publishing lol he didn’t just give it to them

@jmjfanss

3 жыл бұрын

That is not true, joe gave plenty of pun's royalty checks to pun's family, but liza rios sadly released that DVD hurt the legacy of pun and it also damaged the friendship with liza and joe as well.

@JonLozo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmjfanss what does that have to do with my comment ? Lol all I said was Joe left out the portion about him getting sued and eventually giving the rights up in settlement which is TRUE.. I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t true

@jmjfanss

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonLozo Not really, joe already gave it to pun's family many times, but liza continues to shit on pun badly and that hurt the friendship kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5iumrabidDKacY.html, joe also makes a point that people are not gonna take care of you for the rest of your life.

@JonLozo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmjfanss what does that have to do with him not saying he was sued by them and ended settling lol ?

@Polostar79

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonLozo settlement doesn’t mean he stole. Oftentimes you settle to avoid bad publicity.

Now I know the reason why Cam'ron said he can't trust Nore cos he not real himself too cos he knows the truth

Bring Cuban link on that show

R.I.P big pun

I used to be upset at Fat Joe for no reason. He is absolutely right. He worked hard alongside Pun and too many tried to kill Joe's character. Pun died and it seems like everyone wanted to inherit something

@davidfinland00007

Жыл бұрын

Agree

"Fat Joe created Big Pun" smh

@jayventura7059

3 жыл бұрын

I think he's just saying that he helped and invented the Big Pun image, which he's mentioned in the past that he was inspired and followed the Biggie blueprint and made Big Pun the spanish Biggie. Nothing to do with his talent.

@PragmaticProminence

3 жыл бұрын

He actually did so keep shaking your head

@fernandofelixjr3762

4 ай бұрын

He did, he didn't say he wrote his bars but he definitely created pun

I don’t know if joe made big pun I think pun would’ve made it regardless

@marc-antonymyles2069

3 жыл бұрын

He put pun on yo Joe was out before period

@marc-antonymyles2069

3 жыл бұрын

N ima huge pun fan

@HittokiriBattousai17

3 жыл бұрын

Big difference to have an indie label behind you than Joey Crack, who was already a legend. There's plenty people who don't know who Pun is at the moment, cause he doesn't show up in top 10s that much, and thats even with someone as famous as Fat Joe backing him up. Yall don't know how hard is to launch a star.

@nicholastobon5939

3 жыл бұрын

@@HittokiriBattousai17 pun was a special talent joe just taking credit pun was the one writing them bars putting the time in it was his story joe rode the wave

@FreeHat

3 жыл бұрын

It was a different era. Everybody needed somebody to get on, especially in hip-hop. It's not like today where you can upload a track and be on top of the world in a few weeks. That's why it was all crews back then. You had Terror Squad, Ruff Ryders, Murda Inc, Bad Boy, G-Unit, Roc a Fella etc. Pun would've needed a cosign from somebody to get on. Fat Joe was the best fit.

Get your soul right JOE

Not gonna lie. Joe finally made alot of What's going on between him and Pun's family make sense.

@damian999x7

3 жыл бұрын

No he lied again about giving them the rights to his Puns music the family had sued but he gave it back ! He constantly lies !!! they had to go court 2017 they won the case joe a 🐍

@linggo_roscato838

2 жыл бұрын

You don’t know what all they were asking for in that case. Have you read the transcript documents? No. So you don’t know all they were asking for and by rights he should go to court and make sure there not getting more then what there asking for. Foh.

@PMGRadio

2 жыл бұрын

@@linggo_roscato838 what does any of that have to do with my comment?

@linggo_roscato838

2 жыл бұрын

@@PMGRadio Wasn’t speaking to you.

@davidfinland00007

Жыл бұрын

Agree Fat Joe a real one and Liza Rios needs to get a job.

Cuban link has a lot to say, 3 sides of the story. Cubans/puns fam. Joe’s side and the truth. I feel like a lot of the truth is being left out

Alot of this shiz is none of our business, yet they still feel they need to explain themselves.

@ProlificBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

Comes with being in the spotlight

I guess they didn’t know what to do business wise with the masters n stuff😳

What a GREAT storytellerrrrrr..

yo man bring cuban link to the podcast

This is just a sad situation after all these the family & fat Joe are still at war SMH.. Pain on both sides and neither side is innocent... In my opinion they all made mistakes 🤕

Pun was big Little pun intended

I feel ya Joe

Boricua morena Boricua morena

When Pun died he was worth 5 million dollars. You telling me this woman could not invest and use her resources wisely. You know how many people would dream of having $5 million dollars to play with on a business moves .. that lady Liza ran out of money so she had to go get it from Joe

@rolandbishop6610

3 жыл бұрын

They blackballed her

@73tydy

3 жыл бұрын

How you know she got 5 million dollars?

@TonyFlockaaBGN

3 жыл бұрын

@@73tydy he went to google & type up puns network

@73tydy

3 жыл бұрын

@@TonyFlockaaBGN 🤣🤣🤣

Revolt tv is the best

Where’s the lie ? She just won a 7 million dollar law suit this year😳😳

Man I kinda get Joe’s point it’s just the optics was bad but godbless pun man rip gone too soon. Greatest MC ever

Joe you did not create Pun. You simply put him on that's it. Pun made you a bigger star and wrote your shit 🤦🏿

@concreterose31188

8 ай бұрын

He still create Pun cause we wouldn't know him without Joe

@edwardbanks2377

Ай бұрын

​@concreterose31188 That's Subjective, Think About It Like This Jaz O Put Jay On But Did He Make Him Who He Is ??? Pun Was A Genius With Thee Pen Joe Wasn't , Pun Wrote Alot Of Joe's Shit Like Others And I'm Not Stealing Joe's Shine Whatsoever!!! Joe's That Dude HardBody 👑 !!! RESPECT 👊🔥🔥🔥

Joe likes to talk over other people. Even on his own podcast

@DaKoolDude

Жыл бұрын

I know smfh

Joe discovering Pun ..yes ...making Pun ? He might be a little drunk however it didn’t do any justice when Puns wife put that documentary out on KZread years ago about how abusive he was and showed a video of her getting pistol whipped . I think she was looking for a certain reaction at that time and didn’t get it ...

@damian999x7

3 жыл бұрын

She put it out too early me too would have been all over it if she did it now

@mikegee6523

3 жыл бұрын

@@damian999x7 she messed up tho because regardless of their personal relationship (it’s never ok to beat a woman) how can you call him “an animal and abusive” but at the same time want to monetize off his name .. with the same fans who’s sympathy you wanted by releasing the doc .

@twitchoff1114

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikegee6523 That's exactly what Fat Joe said in an interview a couple of years ago

Luv u Joe!!! 💖💖💖

I’m a Brooklyn born but it doesn’t matter what borough Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, Staten Island and international Big Pun music is still being enjoyed still to this day. Big Pun is one of the greatest rappers and musicians of all times, and one of my favorite rappers of all time

@edwardbanks2377

Ай бұрын

You Forgot Strong Island Considered Thee 6th Borough Rakim , Public Enemy, Prodigy, Busta, De La Soul, Keith Murray , EPMD , Freddie Foxxx ( Bumpy knuckles), Roc Marciano, LL Originated From Valley Stream , Plus Rick Rubin From Long Beach Who Co Created Def Jam With His Best Friend Russell Simmons, And Thee List Goes On HARDBODY 👑 🎶 🎶 🎼 🎶 🎶 . . .

Joe looking good at 50+

The energy off on this one Joe I don't know everything about the situation. But I find it difficult to believe Puns Family would feel ill towards you had everything played out the way you say it. Plus your response on Puns son was kinda weird bro.

@jmjfanss

2 жыл бұрын

Joe hates Liza for good reason

Women would rather loose than to admit that they are wrong

I agree with this man.

glad this episode went down i learnt alot about joe that i had only heard and assumed n he cleared all that up in this show where b4 i was lookin lil sideways at him

TOTALLY TOTALLY AWESOME 💪🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥💋💙

Loyalty my a....

Love Fat Joe

So Big Pun died from Apparent Heart Attack

Is there still a Terror Squad?😬don’t shoot I’m from the Bronx I come with love n peace

@Javarrol

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@CrazyBronxBomba

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!!!

How much Joe pay Puns Family ???? 2 Million??? ....... Talk about that........ Joe is a great actor ......

💯

The ego of Joe and the family are blocking the deserve glorification of pun on the music business. Rip pun

@davidfinland00007

Жыл бұрын

Fat Joe never took a dollar 💵 It’s not the ego. Fat Joe on point 💯

Joe said he can't be fake. 🤦🏿‍♂️

@Nekro_216

3 жыл бұрын

He faking he's ass off. Look at his mannerisms as he talks about the Liza situation. He's uncomfortable discussing the matter and he's telling lil white lies. He isn't going to be 100 about the whole Pun situation. 20 years later and he cant be honest. Putting everything on Pun's family. What a scumbag! "Everyone is rich that rides with me". Full of shit he is.

Chris rivers doesnt hate Joe's guts though, hes said that he doesnt know him and has no problem with him

@SolidSnake240

3 жыл бұрын

Yea Chris has never said anything negative about Joe. At least from what I've seen.

@73tydy

3 жыл бұрын

It's better he doesn't know him, as this guy is a straight up snake😒

@JonLozo

3 жыл бұрын

It’s in Chris best interest not to start beef while he’s coming up feel me .. if fat Joe was puns friends he would of put Chris on but he hasn’t

@73tydy

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonLozo it's not even about putting him on. I've never seen someone from around the way call someone their brother like Joe calls Pun, but never have even the most basic of of relationships with their brothers children, especially when your bro's dead🤔 Thats some dodgy shit right there😒

@JonLozo

3 жыл бұрын

@@73tydy yea agree man it’s odd

Fat Joe created big pun facts! Like it or love it get out yall feelings

@shaheemshakur6719

Жыл бұрын

He didn't create him god did. Fat joe put him on that's it.

He was out there like 5am. That's why Ruben Diaz ain't nothing

@justintime7673

3 жыл бұрын

facts him and nore snuck in there mad early in the am , days later

So does Tony Sunshine have a mansion with a pool in it? I doubt it

And he was stealing. He should didn't kno bcuz of the publisher.... the publisher is a con. He has been in court in the pass. Like madonna is 1. Look it up

I was there when Cuban got cut at Jimmy's Cafe, smh...

@JeromeGigante

3 жыл бұрын

What year did it happen 2000 or 2001 ??

@TheRenegadeCrew

3 жыл бұрын

Wow ! What did joe during the fight?

@FirestarOfficialTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeromeGigante 2001 at Angie Martinez's album release party I believe

@CrazyBronxBomba

3 жыл бұрын

@Off the boat Santos Unplug yourself from the Matrix, you too thirsty...

@CrazyBronxBomba

3 жыл бұрын

@Off the boat Santos Did it ever occur to you that maybe I logged off and caught your goofy ass comment when I logged back on??? Just curious... You might be on here 24/7 with nothing else going on with your life, not me, lol!!!

Everybody has there opinion about someone else business. If you was not apart of fat joe and big puns crew how in the hell do yoy know whats going own. I get it you heard this and you heard that. Okay how in the hell do you know its truth or a lie if you were not there. R I.P. Big Pun keep doing what you doing Fat joe meaning keeping Pun name out there.

Nore just can’t be quiet

Appreciate Joe while he still here 🙏🏽

20yrs Pun money been going in one direction, Joe's, Pun family had Togo homeless, 20 yrs, different lawyers, to FINALLY get Puns family, Puns money. Joe, stop bro..

@jmjfanss

3 жыл бұрын

because pun was wasting his own money, instead of leaving a will and an insurance policy.

@davidfinland00007

Жыл бұрын

@@jmjfanss 💯

Everyone is real! Until the truth is revealed!

Get cuban link on there. Speak the truth

@amandagarcia6944

3 жыл бұрын

Can wait to see that 💯💯

Let’s talk about Jelly Bean publishing. Where did those royalty checks go? Also did you give the rights to Liza? Or you were sued and had to relinquish your rights? After 20 years? Things ain’t adding up. Just curious. I mean now that you talking about it.

@damian999x7

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯

@hamfordmcdonald3611

3 жыл бұрын

Joe ain't keeping it a hundo and Nore didn't do his research. Gongu Roach, Liza's attorney did a DoggieDiamonds interview exposing the whole publishing scandal. After 20 years there was a $2 million settlement. Apparently more $ was taken but they settled..."but it all blends perfectly let the liquor tell it." Dre 3K

South Bronx … #getdown

And his son isnt that nice to begin with.

OMG isn't this the same argument "Irv Gotti" was talking about Ashanti about creating the songs, and putting her on? Now look at "Fat Joe" talking like "Irv Gotti".... How funny...

8:29

Maybe.. just maybe the greatest Talent in Rap History.. and yes over Biggie Nas Jay-z Rakim and Em

Joe a real nigga b. Big ups to him.

3:19 your suppose to big him up it was his first album under you Joe. Ur suppose to give him big chains and dress him up for the publics interest. Sounds like you advanced him 200k and kept 500k to yourself, but making it seem like you didn't keep a cent and "gave" him everything when it was an advance

@jmjfanss

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit

This man is a liar. What type of man calls Puns son “apparently a rapper”. That was the moment I knew this mans a fraud. How can you disrespect puns so like that. Uncalled for. A coward.

You didnt make Pun pleeeez....

The judge gave them everything not you

How joe not gonna reach out 2 chris.

Fatjoe is so full of himself 💯🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Excuses Excuses Excuses 🙄🙄🙄

Big Pun was great because Big Pun was great at what he did!!

This is SAD even Israel and Palestine just had a cease fire, it's SAD that they couldn't put their differences aside for one day.. I'm not suggesting that they should be fake to one another but just show love to PUN on his day, am I wrong for saying this?

After 20yrs i don't know whose telling the truth unless someone show some paperwork and whatever money big pun wife did get i bet she probably tried to stretch it out as long as she can while not having a job and it ran out. Her best bet was to talk to a financial advisor or business minded person and see what business she can start or invest in

@DivineLBest

3 жыл бұрын

right its like who do u believe. i find it hard to believe Joe was movin shiesty w/ Puns estate etc. but i find it hard to believe the family is totally wrong. but i could def see both situations playing out, where like u said, the wife/fam just really didnt know what to do w/ the finances and she/they probably tried to live off whatever they did actually get money-wise, spent it all and blamed Joe when the well went dry.

@jameelbuggs5592

3 жыл бұрын

@@DivineLBest exactly. I bet she wasn't even tryna look for a job when she did get the bag thinking it's gon last forever

@DivineLBest

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameelbuggs5592 yea hood shit unfortunately, most of us had no clue about anything legal back then unless it had to do w/ a case smh!

@jameelbuggs5592

3 жыл бұрын

@@DivineLBest my boy won 150k in a lawsuit and never went back to work tryna live off it forever. He blew that money in like 16 months

@juliagraham2139

3 жыл бұрын

According to pun's sister she blew all that money.

Idc about joe or Puns wife, why da fck did pun let him self die!

I think the joe and the fam was getting money but the family wanted joes half too even tho joe doing all the work

Fatjoe wont even say pun son name thinking dat prob help him wa a 🐍

U invented Big Pun???? Blasphemous.. Joey Capp stay cappin

Nori can't Play a sound with Cuba ......... but Joe don't like him ....mishhhhhhhhhhhhhh

With or without Pun Joe would of been successful

Respect to CUBAN LINK🇨🇺👑💪🏽enough 🧢🧢🧢🧢RIP BIG PUN 🇵🇷👑💐His family deserved the royalties of his hard work. Fat Joe likes to tell stories NORE is Fat Joes puppet, a Real ninja 🥷 would interview everyone and get both sides of the story. Big Pun ain’t here but he is watching and I’m sure he is disappointed with Joe and NORE . Terror Squad in the 90’s was the best it’s a shame Joe is so greedy he couldn’t do the right thing.OH WELL every dog got his day enjoy the money 💰 you ain’t taking it with you when you die 💀🙏🏽

Wow

He lieing

Is this true 🫣🫣

Liza Rios stuck on that child support mentality…… give me give me give me, I got these cheese burgers 🍔 give me. Like stfu already pun gone. On top of that she made a documentary about pun being a horrible person. Now her raggedy self asking for money 😂🎉

Yikess

He’s a sucker for this rt. To dare say he made pun. Is wild. Somone else wlda discovered pun. His talent was to much. So joe dnt wanna support n give the fmaily money. He wants a cut.

Joe is such a boss!!! i agree with him 100%

To be honest I wish I didn’t see this bc I started looking into this whole situation and it does make fat joe look wrong- big pun didn’t have a situation on him!! If his wife messed up in putting her story out she admitted that and said she regrets acting on emotion but even the kids said there was DV in the home! Why joe never went ham for puns legacy as diddy did for biggie? Biggies mom has all rights but diddy does his thing regardless as a friend! Stop it! You salty about the wife cool but pun was ya boy where is the love? Anything comin in after his death could have went to the kids bc joe don’t need it but put the efforts so Pun would be more respected for his blueprint in the rap game! Leave the drama aside but do it for pun! So the ones coming up could respect ya boys name! Everyone knows the life of biggie- drug dealer, different baby moms - don’t matter we respect him for him! Same for pun- fucked up personal life but amazing at his talent! Stop the bullshit! He don’t rep pun as diddy reps biggie! You failing as the twin you claimed! 😔😞😒

@jmjfanss

2 жыл бұрын

It won't happen thanks to liza rios.

@jaimel.633

8 ай бұрын

Wonder what Pun would say to Joe today.... twinz?? I don't know

Diddy is the best mogul out here

But pun is dead. So if fat joe does something for pun. It'd should be free. It's all about him. But Puerto Rican like joe has all the money in the world. He call himself the Don. So why worry about what you want to make. When it big pun. Pun is better then joe.

👎👎👎👎

They say fat Joe killed big pun