Great cars. But Their is one key difference that wasn't mentioned in this video. The cupra is AWD while the vrs is FWD. That alone gives a good 1-2 second edge to the cupra when launched. Cheers.

@andreiarama8745

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree,how can you not mention that?! I think that a fast estate should be considered only if it has AWD

@Schmitzelhaus

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiarama8745 Lol, tell that to the AMG C63 or the new M3 Touring. Real sportcars are rear wheel driven for a reason.

@andreiarama8745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schmitzelhaus 1. The M3 and C63amg are a different class 2. The M3 touring is just AWD and also the next C63 will be AWD

@Schmitzelhaus

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiarama8745 Oh damn, you´re right, the M3 is only AWD, i forgot. In my brain BMW means RWD still... 😅 But different class? You just said fast estate and that they are. 😁

@robtoogood201

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schmitzelhaus M3 is X Drive.......

The more powerful car is faster. That's a ton of info guys. Well done.

@pablonavaridas3302

2 жыл бұрын

The cupra is also 4wd, I think that octavia was FWD so yeah...

@Werry_Rang

2 жыл бұрын

Yo I did not know that before watching this vid XD

@davidecalitescu3727

2 жыл бұрын

Out of the two same cars the one with a better tune is faster* amazing right 😂

@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidecalitescu3727 Haha yes yes

@Matwiej19

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that the less power and front wheel octavia will be slower. And to my own belive it was. How is that possible? Oh wait PHYSICS hahahha. Seat 60bhp more, 4 wheel drive, more sporty suspension set up and more responsive steering, very similar weight, who would guess that 🤔

Both are the definition of: “ALL THE CAR YOU WOULD EVER NEED”😃

First Top Gear clip I've seen in years, because I was doing some research on the VRS. But this is what TG is nowadays? No words....

Would have been nice to throw in a golf 8 R estate into the mix to see if it justifies it's price.

need more top gear laps like this. 2 cars in 8mins is only 1 less than in a main show season. Its finally back, please continue it

Quite enjoying the Stig's Garage series :) Thanks TG team!

So this is pretty much Golf GTi Vs Golf R. Just in a Estate body.. Cause underneath those bodies, it's exactly what they are

Nice video, would be nice to have some longer beauty shots of the cars so we can see what they look like.

If only choosing a car was that simplistic. I get Stig’s not very talkative, but failing to point out the AWD vs FWD was a pretty big oversight.

Good video but it should have been the golf r estate vs the cupra, then we could see what the differences are between 2 identical platforms

Miss Clarkson saying, "And crossed the line" when the Stig was doing the time loops. Miss the old Top Gear

@1ybr

2 жыл бұрын

its been half a decade man you have to move on + you can watch the grand tour

@Mr.AtheTriggerGalleon6310

2 жыл бұрын

@Miguel Dias I agree with you bro. I miss old TopGear too. It's just not the same. Doesn't matter how long it's been.

@tompettersson3814

2 жыл бұрын

i also miss his commentary during the lap.

@mclarenf1lm374

2 жыл бұрын

That's an issue with the editor/s On old top gear, clarkson was commenting over the footage where as here voices are edited over the lap clips

@isimon.

2 жыл бұрын

Since the three have gone, Top Gear became just another car show, sadly. Their viewing figures must have gone down by a huge margin…

I've got a 1998 JDM Subaru Legacy GTB, Twin Turbo, manual, came with 280bhp and bilsteins from the factory. Favorite car I've owned, and I've owned multiple hot hatches/turbo imports. There's just something hilarious about the way something so large, gains speed so fast.

@nilocool4284

10 ай бұрын

Best car ever. used to have the evil brother, Legnum VR4 :)

A simple stage 1 remap and filter, plus a set of decent tyres like the PS4S’s or Cup 2’s and the Leon could be faster round this track than the RS4! I’ve had a vRS wagon from new for 6 years now, about to change and those two cars mentioned above are in my short-list. Now, what to get!?! 🤔

Great video guys

How can you compare 2 cars that have so much difference in power and then AWD in the Cupra, you just cannot give a fair comparison.

i wounder how my skoda superb 272 sportline would have done against them ? it is 4 wheel drive and has 5..3 sec 0 to 60 ?

@amrdel2730

2 ай бұрын

Sounds great your superb could be the best middle ground between power sportiness and practicality

This should be on the main show 👍🙏

Pretty much GTI vs Golf R then. It's what these two are under the sheet metal.

You’ve kind of compared GTI and R.

First time I’ve ever seen a stig do a fast lap in automatic mode

What’s the obsession recently with having group tests, where virtually all the cars are from the VAG group ?? - testing for the best fruit by only testing apples - pointless - you buy the most expensive apple you can afford

@akagainesy

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. But I think they make so many decent cars across all their brands it's hard to find others from outside the group that are on the same level across all categories, from tech specs to interior finishes.

@andreiarama8745

2 жыл бұрын

In this case it could be because nobody else is making a fast SW from the same category

@JIMMYHIBBS1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiarama8745 BMW 340i series or Mini Cooper Clubman Cooper S - Merc CLA 45 - C300 …. IMO - pointless testing two VAG cars

@andreiarama8745

2 жыл бұрын

@@JIMMYHIBBS1 in what universe the BMW 340i,CLA45AMG ARE RIVALS WITH CARS THAT HAVE WAY LESS POWER AND COST 50% LESS????!!!!!

@JIMMYHIBBS1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiarama8745 ok - pick lower models … but as most people lease these cars - bet there isn’t much difference in the real world. I’ve not researched the subject to the last pound, but you get the point

Why didn't they make the VRS a RWD or AWD? I can't imagine a reason for that

I got a 245 vrs and it's a fantastic car I love it. But the test didn't mention if either car had VAQ DIFF. Or AWD....

That 4K saved on the vrs is enough to remap it

@JonathanSmith87

2 жыл бұрын

The Cupra is also 4WD, hence the big delta in 0-60.

@dextertheragdollcat213

2 жыл бұрын

How do you think the Skoda would do with a good stage 1 remap? I'm considering it when my new car warranty ends.

@Koryhun

2 жыл бұрын

On track, remapping is the last thing to tune your car.

@dimsoneill

2 жыл бұрын

@@dextertheragdollcat213 Really well. Even a stage 1 gives massive gains.

good video, I think you could cut the "predictions" bit and it would have a better flow.

Anybody else reckon "The Stig" in these videos for Stigs Garage are just Becky?

Why was choosen deep handicapated estate cars, instead of normal RWD or awd with rwd bias?

How can you not mention FWD vs AWD?

For £4k you could get the VRS remapped to pretty much the same output, as it's pretty much the same power train, and save yourself a packet! The Cupra does look better on the outside too tbf but the Skoda interiors are surprisingly upmarket and always with the practical Easter eggs!

@improbro1124

2 жыл бұрын

Put the same 4k into the leon cupra and it can easily reach 360ps , Although both cars are bulit on the same platform "mqb" The leon cupra has a bigger turbo (is38) which is the same used on the older golf r mk7.5 and s3 The vrs, golf gti, uses the "is 20" Gear ratios are different on cars fitted with is38 which is better for acceleration. The leon cupra have better aero dynamic Better locking diff Better suspension Better brakes Better gearbox ratio Better turbo Better exhaust I can go for ever. the point is the leon cupra is the best bang for u buck car. And btw i own a leon cupra my friends have skoda vrs and i have beat many tuned skoda vrs while my cupra was stock.

@tomraymond9795

2 жыл бұрын

Good shout, the Cupra Leon is a better performance car for sure. It was always hotter than the VRS and the GTi, more of a golf R rival but the Octavia is cheaper and does the practical stuff very well, better in some regards although I think the latest gen Leon estate actually has a bigger boot!? Is it AWD too? I didn't hear that mentioned in this vid but could have missed it. I know the prev gen was fwd in the hatch and AWD in the estate. The weird thing about Skoda is that they have a performance brand but the quick Superb has always been their quickest model, in a straight line at least but has never been a VRS. The Superb 280 TSI also tunes up to 360ps with a stage 1 and you used to be able to get it in SE L trim which has no performance styling or badging at all or even the posh rims from the laurin and klement range topper, just an anonymous dad wagon! That appeals to me as a perfect sleeper, although it does mean you'd need to do more to the mechanicals to get good handling. And it's a bit too big to chuck around British B roads... And it had the old 6 speed DSG. So, Cupra it is then! 🤣🤣🤣

@hojnikb

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of diamon coated tune is that for 4k pounds???

@wanderer7755

Жыл бұрын

Flexing those leased wheels 👌🏻

Wow, Octavia diving and rolling more than my Citroen C5 😂

@herbst963

2 жыл бұрын

Seen boats with less rolling

@andersh3185

2 жыл бұрын

@@herbst963 most costumers for these will never visit a track anyway, I have the cupra, and I definately enjoy the smoother ride compared to my old GTI

I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. My choice would also be the Cupra Leon

Did they change the stig? Because this one can’t drive

Used to own a limited edition octavia vrs estate a few years ago. Was quite nippy for a diesel but I think my mk7 Golf R-line is a bit quicker than it was now. Ps. Where can I find the video of the fabia vrs going round the track

This is Top Gear now, she is dressed like she is going to the supermarket for quick shopping with a charisma of cashier from the same supermarket at the end of long shift...

So to sum up, ignore the badges, they are the same car, you pitched the Golf GTI against the Golf R.

Needs commentary during the laps for slower cars I reckon.

at the start of the skoda they haven't used the fight control... 5 seconds is a lot... it can't be

I had Hammond and James and Clarkson playing at the back of my mind while Stig blasted through the Hammerhead and the tyres

OK !

I think you might be right Becky

Skoda for sure. A nice tune will do it.

I remember back in the day when this show was good.

When are we getting the episode with the mk2 golf?!

Not really a good comparison since both models can be specified with different engines and different drivetrains - you should have compared comparable offerings not a 2WD Skoda -v- a 4WD Cupra.

A Golf R is faster around a track than a Golf GTI. No way!? I’d still have the Octavia. Nicer inside and more practical too.

I think the Leon is a beautiful car, the reason I didn't buy one is because it's automatic only

@user-nk1wq4zf9f

Жыл бұрын

That is SUCH a mistake that they don't offer manual. I was just about to call the dealership to inquire about the stock... VRS test drive it is, it seems.

Shocked the vrs only has 245bhp in 2022. Is it because it has the smaller turbo?

The car that has 25% more bhp is more powerful shocker

NUMBER of SUBSCRIBERS / LEVEL of FUN goes to infinity Do these 8.4M of subscribers still wait for good old fun TG?

Hmmm this is like comparing green apples to red apples. These two are the same car just dressed and tuned a bit differently.

@andersh3185

2 жыл бұрын

not really, 4wd makes a huge difference, and the suspension/ride is also way more sporty in the cupra, not to mention it looks better

They are the same car... same engine.. same drive train, Just get the Skoda and tune it. Plus what sort of limp wristed launch was that from the driver in the skoda....

rs6 slower? how??

@kooskoos1814

Жыл бұрын

Wet lap vs dry…

🤯 Proper...

They're essentially the same car???

Way the driver pushing the pedal hard when he was driving the skoda he seemed to not push hard

The VRS would be a sick sleeper if you slap a big turbo on it 🔥🔥

@dimsoneill

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t even need that. Stage 2 tune and it’s quick.

@dead3yeofficial238

Жыл бұрын

​@@dimsoneill Exactly what I was gonna comment 😂

@Jesko_VRS

6 ай бұрын

A VRS with a stage 2 + downpipe and some NGK goodies pushes around 330-355 hp and 520 nm easy without losing reliability. Some DSG fine tuning and it's an absolute sleeper.

Why it says 1 like ?!

Not a fair comparison really....... not by a long shot. The Cupra has a 25% power advantage over the Skoda and AWD!!!!! You could use the 4K to put a load of lovely spec on the Skoda......... and have it mapped!

@wanderer7755

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Blue shell

The Seat looked so much more stable it's not even funny.

Wouldn't mind a Octavia VRS Estate, but it has to be manual.

No one is buying an estate for racing though, better functionality would trump track performance differences that are probably not noticeable on the road anyhow when it comes to buying decisions. between two similar "warm estates".

Hola.

Not knocking the cars (I’m seriously considering the Octavia VRS as my next car) but that was basically a bloke driving two estate cars slightly quickly round a track. Exciting.

Lose the music. I wanna hear the engines!

the Skoda wasn't helped by its laggy start, taking more than a second to move off the line.

@dextertheragdollcat213

2 жыл бұрын

Traction is an issue. I can spin the wheels so easily on mine. Desperately needs AWD.

Should have gone for the Superb Sportline instead of Octavia. More power and also AWD...

@ryryrichard5988

2 жыл бұрын

Different categories.

I wish the video editing was better, too many effects..

Becky is ok. Has a KZread channel runs a classic Porsche. Give the young generation a chance.

Cupra= SEAT

@pablonavaridas3302

2 жыл бұрын

basically

@alivekicking6247

2 жыл бұрын

Seat Leon Cupra. Best VAG hot hatch out there and always has been

@ryanfoleye

2 жыл бұрын

No no, Seat=Seat, Cupra=Cupra

@maozedong549

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanfoleye no no no VW=SEAT=CUPRA

skoda all day

Octavia is the prettier car and the leon is impressive, but in the real world the vrs diesels have the midrange grunt in every day driving (in my humble opinion).

Much has changed since the Stig lap days…smh

Id have the skoda, vetter looking and nicee place to be.

Ningún Skoda se puede comparar con un CUPRA, a igualdad de potencia siempre será más rápido un CUPRA, por puesta a punto del chasis...

The G81 M3 Touring?!?!?!?

Skoda is RS no VRS😐

@jakegargiulo5101

Жыл бұрын

It is vRS, it's written on the car mate.

another video of exclusively Volkswagen Auto Group vehicles, these are essentially the same car.

Vw vs vw

who are you ?

They basically golf r estate vs gti estate lol

@hazardo4378

2 жыл бұрын

SImilar, but I think the golf has more power. Would have been interesting to see it in the mix tgo see if it justifies it's pricetag.

Rather daft conclusion, you are comparing what is effectively a golf gti v golf r. Two completely different animals when one is fwd and the other is AWD???

The production of this is like fifth gear🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

TG finally has a female Stig...let's see who can figure it out 😆

Was it just me or did it seem like stig was driving the Skoda like a kid playing gran turismo with remote. Very power on/ power off, not smooth at all..

So the same car with a tuned engine, so bored of vag cars now. They tried their best to avoid it but they diluted the brands

the winner is......... .............VW

Equal pay

Skoda was at a disadvantage, Less power and only front wheel drive.

Key takeaways from this review: None.

Not interesting comparaison.... More than 60 HP différence.... What a pity. " It is faster". No... Really????

Мучас грасиас!!!

I wonder what a Volvo T5r awd estate from the 90s would do on that track ...

@andersh3185

2 жыл бұрын

it would be more fun, but way slower

I dont really get why anyone would get the skoda, if you care about performance get the leon, if you care about milage, get a regular/hybrid skoda I got the cupra cause its by far the best bang for your buck when it comes to new performance estates in that price range

@user-nk1wq4zf9f

Жыл бұрын

I want a manual. That's why. Mileage doesn't hurt either I guess.

There s too much of a difference , what have you done

need a srt8 magnum on that list

So Top Gear's picking up any random people from the streets to become a commentor?

I don't see the point to these cars. I mean that's why hatchbacks were made right?

@dextertheragdollcat213

2 жыл бұрын

The point is, they're practical as well as fast.

@user-nk1wq4zf9f

Жыл бұрын

Pack two bikes INTO a hatchback, or 2 kayaks on the roof, or gear for a week outdoors, all while you still like to drive and don't want to spend a fortune on an audi/bmw (or be associated with their typical clientele).

@carlo9524

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nk1wq4zf9f I don't have a problem with Estate cars. Souping them up does not make sense. Just get a hatchback. Ferrari tried it with the FF and it became a joke. So to follow your logic. We soup up an estate car so we can pack them with kids, groceries, mountain bikes etc? 😝🤪😜😛 What's the point???

@user-nk1wq4zf9f

Жыл бұрын

@@carlo9524 Funny u say that when FF body type was by far my favorite ferrari. BR20 also looks great... If/when I have the funds I would be first in line for a taycan turismo or panamera if not ev. Get a hatchback? What point of "i need a car to be practical, yet engaging to drive" is not understandable? Hatchback is just one of those things when you do more than grocery shopping. And before you say "the twoseaters and hatchbacks are for fun, get a second car", see, I like driving, so why would I spend majority of my driving time in a complete beater? Why not enjoy every second? And yes, to follow my logic... that's exactly what I am looking for. Souped up estate car with stiffer suspension.

@carlo9524

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nk1wq4zf9f don't worry. There is a 1% market for weirdos. That's the target market of these kinds of vehicles.

Top gear is shite without Clarkson ,Hammond and may