A couple of people are confused about the use of the Fanatec USB adapter, yes you can buy one and use them standalone but there is not one included with the pedals. Another common question so far is are the TM T-LCM's better? I would say aside from the LC no, the fit and finish of these with the metal pedal faces is much better the the T-LCM's, they feel and look like a toy by comparison, I'm sure once the LC is available the price will be quite close, TBH even if it was a little more I'd still choose these as they look much nicer IMO.

Most underrated reviewer on KZread, and top bloke 👌 Cheers Karl, helpful as always

@FormulaProg

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to post something similar, he’s definitely of the best at this.

@evennordstoga1676

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks chaps that actually means quite a lot to me! :)

@korsarrokhan1

2 жыл бұрын

Fancy seeing you here 👀 Genuinely think Karl's videos are the best for covering content the average user cares about in a perfect time length and all whilst feeling like you're chatting with a mate

@EzzraOG

2 жыл бұрын

@@korsarrokhan1 this.... all while some how off the cuff 👌🏾

Great review as always Karl! Quality reviews - down to earth, no BS. Just watched your CSL DD review in preparation for my one arriving in November.

Thanks for the review Karl. Ordered these already. Can’t wait for the LC upgrade with the clutch.

I just ordered 2 of the GT Appex Omega racing wheel stand thanks to your review on one of your older videos on KZread I can't wait to have them delivered and I also used your code. Thanks keep up the great reviews.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Enjoy mate and thank you! :)

Amazing video as always. Covered all the bits I needed to know, especially about the mounting! I will be buying one of these and a csl dd after this month hopefully. Thank you Karl!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful mate enjoy! :)

The tuning kit really should have come with a slightly harder PU foam and different throttle springs etc, along with the new faces, otherwise it’s disingenuous to call them a “tuning kit”

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed mate.

@PhilDiasPJD

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, this emphasises my other comment.

I've been watching you when you only had 100 subscribers ... congrats mate you've come a long way!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Thanks for still being here mate! :)

@richardople

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Always brother, love from Canada eh!

Great job as always! Thanks!

Dang fanatec just release the load cell brakes for this already

Great review as always, and for the money, they are a quality bit of kit, they do look well made that's for sure 👍

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate, they are decent for the money for sure! :)

Had mine for a few months now, overall happy with them, just load cell kit is taking ages!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah isn't it! lol

I'm glad they have the aluminium pedal faces as I didn't want to spend as much as the V3's but I didn't like the plastic look of these either. I will get the pedal faces with the loadcell when it comes out!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Really make them look and feel more premium for sure!

I'm never this early for an upload

Do these mount with the Playseat Challenge? Great vid as always!

Very helpful vid thanks!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

No problem!

It would be good if they brought out optional spring for accelerator and clutch

Great video as always Karl! I have a feeling that Fanatec will make an announcement when Thrustmaster releases their SF1000 wheel rim to the rest of the world this week. Maybe announce their Playstation-compatible CSL DD??? or release their loadcell kit and pedal plates for the CSL pedals??? Has anyone heard any news on the release dates for the pedal add-ons?

The pedals look good, hopefully they are the same as the elites for quality. I've heard in Canada that the load cell will be the same price as the stock pedals. So double the price of the pedals for us in canada for a load cell. Keep up the great work Karl.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

If it's €80 the same price as the twin pedals that would be ok with me, brings them inline with the T-LCM's but a better pedal set IMO.

@DONKODONK

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling I can't wait to try a set. And Ive never used a load cell, so they are a great price for that.

Would you recommend upgrading for these CSL pedals? I currently have the CSL Elite pedals, but I'm having issues with the gas pedal potentiometer. And where can you buy these upgraded metal tuning kit pedals? Can't find them at fanatec.

Thanks for your review. Do you know why the tuning kit and the load cell pedal are not available yet and there aren't news about them?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I don't mate sorry!

nice but i went with mark 1 pedals and simagic alpha mini hehe, cant wait to receive them

Nice video Karl, I was just wondering how have you managed to directly mount pedals to your Titan rig? I have just got one myself recently after seeing your review video. Loving it it's very sturdy The pedals with the pedal mount are a fair bit higher than I am used to and still trying to find the best solution at the moment. I do have the T-LCMs myself currently, may get some fanatec pedals later down the line when I get my CSL DD. @Karl Gosling

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same so ditched the pedal tray and bolted directly to the Titan base :)

@gwr3845

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply. I was wondering if you had more info on how to do this? My TLCMs seem to big to mount to the rig

The Load Cell brake pedal for this set will be out on the 26nd of November. Do you have any preview sample of it per chance? Would really like to know what you think about it. Thank you for an awsome chanel and reviews.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Review up Friday :)

Hi Karl, big fan and watch all your videos but have to mention how critical you were of the T-LCM pedal set due to quality for the price. The folded metal on these new CSLs looks really cheap in my opinion but my main point is that, after adding the load cell and metal pedal faces, surely these and the CSLs will be direct competitors but there isn't a mention or comparison at all. Hope you can do a comparison once the load cell is out.

@ezroller2k11

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly cheaper if you factor in the T-LCM pedals don't need a USB adapter. Forgot to include that. Keep up the good work, love the cat screech as the video ends and fades to black :D

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly the T-LCM's feel and look like a toy compared to these mate, the build quality and finish is so much better (once you replace the plastic faces of course), once the LC is out even if these were a little more money I would choose them every time. Ori (my cat) does like to make herself known from time to time! :) lol

Excellent demo karl ive got these on order my self got the 2 pedal version because ill be using the advanced paddle module on the formula v2 rim ive bought my only concern is how do i go about mounting them to my playseat evolution standard rig i have ? The grey edition i have so am not sure how youll mount them to the footplate base bare in mind am coming from g920 pedals so can i use the screws from that to bolt them down ?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm you'll have to see if any holes line up and you may need a couple more nuts and bolts.

@DanMufc-jt9le

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling ok thanks karl for the tips should be a simple work around when they arrive can already tell though there gonna be a massive step up for me than using the boring old 920s with the stupid middle sponge bit thats too hard to press down

I have an old set of CSR elite pedals, would the old pedal faces fit on these?

I just got the thrustMaster T248 would this work with that wheel and the pS5 ?

So nice of Fanatec to have holes in the pedal arms, you can modify the crap out of them

Thank you

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Does the club sport adapter work for all pedals?

would this be a step up from T3PA ? great work as per usual, keep them coming.

@dufey1969

2 жыл бұрын

yes these use hall effect sensor

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely, the finish is so much better and of course hall effect sensors as Joe says.

@drizz786

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling cheers, will be getting a full set up, finally retiring my tx base, thanks again. So good to have a plain talking reviewer thankyou for youre time.

Can these Pedals Bc mounted to the GT Omega Prime cockpit? Kinda nervous if they will. Thinking of buying one.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I've not checked if the bolt holes line up but I imagine so, my Fanatec V3's bolted straight on... if not 5 mins with a drill would soon sort that out.

Best thing to do is to buy a set of pedal pads and screw them in directly you can make pivot holes with a drill that will line up exactly with the holes save money and they will look better

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the pedal faces, if they are thin and flat they will sit at a horrible angle and too far back.

All the video you made help me to decide what to buy. Actually I am at this stage ! - Fanatec CSL DD - 1x Boost kit 8NM - 1 CSL Elite Steering Wheel GT3 V2 - 1 CSL Elite Steering Wheel WRC - 1 CSL Pedals (new) ( waiting for the test of Optional Loadcell Kit to know if I add it ) + CSL Pedal Clutch or Thrustmaster T LCM - Thrustmaster TH8A or Fanatec ClubSport Shifter SQ V 1.5 ? (no problem of compatibility between fanatec & thrustmaster? that TH8A would be connected to the pc then and not to the wheel right ?) All of this, du to space at home where I have my computer : Wheel Base Next Level Racing DD Any suggestions on what you would do (the same or different ? )

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I'd take the Fanatec pedals and shifter over the TM all day long mate!

@kzugaming4287

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling It will bé full fanatec then. Thx. Just need to figure out if CSL dd is compatible with thé wheel base next level racing dd. And wait for thé CSL dd to bé available again..' it will bé near black friday

is it worth getting the csl pedals before they release the loadcell or would it be cheaper to wait and get them as a bundle if they do that ?

@PaulBlamey

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody knows what pricing will be but you will save in shipping.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

If they do a bundle it will of course be cheaper, but we don't know if they will.

Do these pedals fit the GT Omega Apex stand?

Was thinking about getting the clubsport V3's. should I get these rather . . .

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

V3's are much better mate, as they should be for the price difference!

is it possible to connect pedals with thrustmaster steering wheel to ps4?

Karl, there is a USB adapter. I have the pedals and use the Fanatec USB adapter to run the direct to my PC.

@Smally268

2 жыл бұрын

I was worried for a minute thinking they couldn't be used standalone

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy one yes mate, I said it doesn't come with one.

I was waiting to get the loadcell brake for my CSL Elite pedals and now they've bloody discontinued them. Really annoying.

@aidenfielding9709

2 жыл бұрын

Should be easy to pick up on ebay, Facebook, gumtree etc

@metube2907

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidenfielding9709 Na they're like gold dust, people as re selling the whole pedle sets only not just the load cell.

would you know why my brake load cell gets detected but the clutch and pedal aren't getting detected everything's connected

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

No mate sorry.

Thanks man. Can i use these on my thrustmaster tx on xbox series x?

@JoseFcoBN

2 жыл бұрын

no

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have thought so mate.

Can these be used with a Logitech G29 wheel? Hate the spacing on the pedals with that.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yes over USB.

For the pedal plastic part, just get real ones for a car. The BMW's were $4 each :) If they last in a car, they will last on these pedals.

How do these pedals compare to the CSL Elite ones?

@Anonymous-vp7zs

2 жыл бұрын

I have csl elite ones and from watching other videos I believe the csl elite ones to be better. In my opinion they look way better then these new ones

First things first.... great presentation and video Karl. BUT I am slightly miffed with Fanatec really. I have their original set of CSL elites with loadcell brake. They have been brilliant. It was my first introduction into loadcell brakes and cost wise it was a no brainer because I could upgrade my pedals by plugging in with USB and keep my G29. So WHY have fanatec made this feature not available with the new set. (only fcan use by plugging into wheel base). I think you could have put more emphasis on this Karl. You basically have to just go with fanatec products now which is a shame. Also, why did fanatec not have the loadcell ready with the launch. Everything at the moment from fanatec seems cheap to begin with but then upgrade the face plate, then loadcell etc and it just seems like they are hooking people in to then charge more. Seems the same with the CSL DD, on the one hand just bring out a 8nm at one price instead of a 5nm base then upgrade to the 8nm. Unfortunately, Fanatec is coming out with some exciting stuff recently but the way they seem to be pushing it out seems a bit disingenuous and like apple. Shame I like fanatec stuff, but the original csl pedals will probably be my last fanatec purchase.

@PaulBlamey

2 жыл бұрын

I am running these with the club sport USB adapter and a Logitech G29 while I wait for my CSL DD to arrive. Works great!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy a USB adapter, it just doesn't come with one in the box mate.

@PhilDiasPJD

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thanks for informing me but again with the original it came with both cables. Just think with fanatec everything seems an extra.

@korsarrokhan1

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhilDiasPJD loadcells from fanatec can be plugged directly into the computer (and the other pedals plug into the loadcell) so like for like product (csl elite w/ loadcell and csl w/ loadcell) they would function the sams with connectivity

How do these compare to a g920, the brake pedal more mostly. i have g920 with the GTeye mod and i dont think i could go to a lighter pedal than that

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

G920 is harder to press that final 25% or so, but overall these look and feel much nicer IMO, I'd add the LC when it's available and job done! :)

@tippeetom

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply Karl, I actually removed half of the rubber piece and used uprated springs and I got the pedals to a point I'm happy with, I'm just worried that if I buy these to pair up with my csl DD that I'm going to be missing some pedal feel on all three pedals, a load cell would definitely help the brake, if it's in my price range, the throttle and clutch feel ok though?

You can’t use those pedals without a fanatec base? There’s not any USB adapter ? I was thinking about buying these pedal set to start my fanatec rig…

@deadlyfishes8162

2 жыл бұрын

You can add the USB adapter as an add on when you add it to your cart on the fanatec website.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

As above, there's just not one included like there are with some other manufactures pedal sets.

@alexandrerossi3553

2 жыл бұрын

Tks a lot! I thought the USB adapter was not compatible with this pedals! Great to know!

So with the USB adaptor I could use these with a logitech wheel and shifter, correct?

@essereRacing

2 жыл бұрын

yes!

@zenopsys3443

2 жыл бұрын

@@essereRacing awesome! Going to look at getting these then

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Catto at the end lol

Release the LC and metal plates already, Fanatec.

can I use these pedals with Trustmaster TX ?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

On PC with the optional USB adapter yes.

Can you invert these pedals?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think they are specifically designed for it but they will of course work upside down if you can find a way to fit them.

🎉

€120 yet all the second hand ones I can find are the best part of £300 🤔 I'm guessing you can't buy them for retail anymore and their demand is outweighing availability, thus driving up price? idk just a guess.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Stock issues again I think mate, there's very little coming from China right now with ports being closed etc. a big portion of the country is in lock down again.

@BeforeThisNovember

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling yeah good point mate!

These are great and all until you remember that Fanatec gave us mostly metal load cell pedals for $150 in the CSR Elite pedals around 10 years ago. So hall sensor pedals at $120 isnt good enough.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly 10 years ago a dollar was worth a lot more than it is now, you can't compare 10 year old prices mate.

@7MBoosted

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling adjusted for inflation $150 usd is the equivalent to $183 usd and some change. While I can agree that the global buying power of the average person may have decreased slightly, I'm not sure my point is completely invalid. And as someone who had the extremely plastic-y Fanatec Porsche Pedals before I bought my current and still kicking CSR Elite pedals in 2011 I can say I will be using them until they fall apart. Thanks for for the review Karl, great work as always. Big fan, no joke 👍

Ah crap doesn't look like it will mount to my Playseat challenge very well

I just got dirt rally 2.0 and I can’t find any setting to change wheel rotation angle. Is there a setting to change this

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

You don't change it, it does it dynamically per car, just calibrate the wheel in game and enable soft lock.

Crazy how Fanatec can charge half the price of the pedal set for 1 extra pedal.

@simonv8832

2 жыл бұрын

Yes fair right 2 pedals 80 and I pedal 40 tadaa

Send me logitech g923 for xbox please

@alex1.2

2 жыл бұрын

don't beg, and even if you did beg, beggars can't be choosers

carpet? who is using Fanatec pedals on carpet hahah

If You want to use 3 pedals, whats the point of buying csl?? You need 80$ for gas and break + 40$ for clutch, dunno how much for metal pads, and load cell will cost up to 50$ if not more (since one for csl elite it costs 140$). You can get Thrustmaster T-LMC for around 150-160$ now, all metal build and it comes with load cell build in already. No thanks Fanatec.

@FinnD777

2 жыл бұрын

TLCM's aren't all metal construction like these though. I get that the TLCMs are a very functional pedal set but i'd much rater these, they look a lot more finished! Also you don't need to add the price of the clutch when you buy the loadcell as the brake pedal becomes a clutch when you remove the foam for the brake. It will be less than 200 euro for these as a 3 pedal set with loacell, and you can buy extra pedal faces if you want but they aren't forcing you to

@JoseFcoBN

2 жыл бұрын

Now the T-LMC is all metal? is there a new version?

@FinnD777

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoseFcoBN They’re not, I don’t know what he’s saying 🤷‍♂️

@johunmelnic8096

2 жыл бұрын

Lol even if it's not all metal, so what. If i am on a budget and i want load cell breaks i'll go for T-LMC, and if i want something better i'll go for elite pedals. At this price point this new CLS makes no sense to me.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

The difference in build quality is night and day mate, the T-LCM's feel like cheap toys compared to these once you remove the plastic faces, even just the fit and finish looks so much nicer... I have both here right now.

How do these hold up on a lino floor, do the rubber pads grip ok? Got a set of these coming with my CSL DD at some point. Wondering if I will need to make some sort of frame to anchor them against the back wall on my desk setup.