To all those who are questioning the gloves, they are an easy way of protecting the alcatnara rim. Without them, the sweat from your palm as you are racing (often for hours at a time) and wear down the fabric, and also make it matted down and gunky and almost impossible to clean. Happened to me with my first rim, now I only wear gloves when racing.

@dropac

6 жыл бұрын

I didnt notice any difference with gloves. the alcantara still gets dirt on it so after 6 months of testing im back to driving without gloves. for cleaning im using the Chemical Guys Leather Cleaner,1 microfiber and a toothbrush.

@Calle...

6 жыл бұрын

So you race naked but with gloves?

@YZFMANIAC08

5 жыл бұрын

Alcantara was designed to soak up moisture so you dont in trouble with sweaty hands

@vladvasiloni1577

4 жыл бұрын

@@Calle... yes

@vladvasiloni1577

4 жыл бұрын

@@YZFMANIAC08 it turns nasty beleave me i have done that mistake

I actually found this visual demonstration very helpful. I have a th8 but sick of having to change the sequentional. also i want somthing with shorter throw and that feels more solid and like a real shifter. Looks like the fanatec shifter is the way to go!

@Hoffie92

10 жыл бұрын

have the exact same dilemma as you have, fanatec, here we come

Thanks for this comparison. This helped me decide to get the CSS. I had the TH8A & found it very loose & throw too long. Even after doing mods like the Ricmotech adapter & putting in rubberbands to strengthen the feel, it did not make much difference. I would upgrade to this if the TH8A is not as solid as you would like. The CSS gives better feel when changing gears.

très belle comparaisons, j adore les gants enfin un gars qui a tous compris ,simracer un jours,simracer toujours

So how is the case shifter working for you I have heard about the 1.5 breaking

Excellent comparison. Than you

With both shifters plugged in, can you switch back and forth between them whenever you want? Or do you have to go to the menu and select which shifter you want to use each time?

Does the thrustmaster shifter work with the fanatec on xbox

Thank's for the vídeo. I've got a th8a. Can i use It with a csl elite in ps4?

TH8A is a great shifter for the price. Sequential mode lacks proper feedback, but I kinda like the quiet action. That Fanatec makes quite a ruckus and could really disturb others. No doubt it is a better shifter but quite pricey too, especially with the whole Fanatec setup. Thrustmaster setup with shifter is like half the money.

@d3tach3d

3 жыл бұрын

3 years later the TH8A is $180 which is more than it used to be and the fanatec is only $70 more. Definitely worth the extra $70 for a product that is more robust in every way and for the convenience of being able to switch to sequential in 1 second when driving different cars.

How did you mount the Fanatec shifter to the rseat's mount I just got mine and the holes on the mount don't fit Did you drill new holes or am i missing something?

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

I'm a lazy man ... so I bought the special CSS mount (100€ ... Really too expensive...) www.rseat-europe.com/rSeat-Upgrades-Accessories/rseat-rs1-shifter-mount-black

Thanks for the comparison! From what I can tell the Fanatec shifter isn't even available in the US until February 2015! I want one but they just pushed back the release date by 2 months!

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

I think it's because they made a new version of this shifter. So if you want it, just wait and you will have a better version. :)

@livelongandprosper70

Жыл бұрын

But its 2023 🤷‍♂️.. 🤤

@therealsnow

Жыл бұрын

@@livelongandprosper70 yeah.. and I got the new shifter like over 7years ago, not sure why you're posting on a 8yo video...

Nice fanatec wheel thinking about getting one how do you like yours?

So what do you prefer? TH8RS or CSS? I am debating between the 2, but the additional price of the table clamp (no rig to hardmount) and the usb adapter (no CSW base) has me leaning towards the TH8RS.

@kronospost135

10 жыл бұрын

The CSS is better for me. It's clearly more interesting about the feeling of the shifter (it's more mecanical, and more impressive). However, it's a little expensive. The TH8RS is also very nice with his interesting price and his good quality. The sequential mod is a little bad for me and it's for this reason i bought a CSS. If you need a shifter just for the manual gearbox, I think the TH8RS is the best choice. But except for the price, the CSS is better (better quality, better customisation, better feeling with his 2 mods, ...).

@kevko5212

10 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post Thanks. That was my impression of the SQ mode of the TH8RS as well, and that swayed my decision to go for a CSS. Still gotta save for it for the meantime, but it looks like it is sold out for the next few months anyway.

can I use the Thrustmaster TH8RS with the fanatec v2.5 ?

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

Yes (but only on pc)

What wheel is that? I'd wonder if it will work with the Thrustmaster TX base? I love Alcantara shit. Just bought a Playseat with the Alcantara material.

@kronospost135

10 жыл бұрын

This steering wheel is only for the Clubsport Wheel Base of Fanatec.

I like the sound of TH8RS

Get an oculus next, you'll love it. Pcars, Assetto and Dirt Rally all support now.

What rig are you using?

Could you tell me your seat or rig set up please?

@swekiller98

7 жыл бұрын

rseat rs1

Can I use the Th8A with the Logitech g920? And if not is there a adapter for it ??

@kronospost135

8 жыл бұрын

The TH8RS is compatible with any wheel.

@parkerjohnston3522

7 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post even not a force feedback wheel?

@pocwiczcycu

7 жыл бұрын

You can connect it directly to one of Thrustmaster bases or change cable for the simplest USB so yeah even not a Force Feedback wheel

Now you just gotta stiffen that shifter mounting arm! I need to as well -_-

does anyone know if either of these shifters would work or connect with a logitech Driving Force GT steering wheel and pedals. for euro truck simulator?

@Providenceangle

9 жыл бұрын

The shifters are separate. You just map the shifter in the game. So long as it's connected and has proper drivers, it should work fine. The only issue that may come up is if there are too many peripherals plugged in. IE xbox controller, wheel, shifter...

@jwrocks83

8 жыл бұрын

The thrustmaster is a stand alone with usb, so it'll work with any wheel. Not sure about the fanatec.

@Iamthenick727

8 жыл бұрын

Providenceangle oh fantastic thank you

@Iamthenick727

8 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey White i dont want the fanetic i want the th8a but thank you thats great

can i combine the thrustmaster t300 base with the fanatec clubsport shifter? this would be nice...

@kronospost135

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can, but you need an usb adapter for the shifter.

@JasperAnderswelt

6 жыл бұрын

Great :) But what usb adapter i need exactly? please can you tell me? thx

@kronospost135

6 жыл бұрын

You just need the Clubsport USB Adapter available on Fanatec.com. Everything is written on the page of the product on their website.

I’m prolly gonna go with the thrustmaster I’m already dropping 800$ on the csl wheel base rim and hub no mount so it will be another 300 for the fanatec of 170 for the thrustmaster Down the line I’ll upgrade when I get a proper sim seat and use the old shifter as a hand brea

@simongrankvist8892

2 жыл бұрын

Maybye to late. But you can go with the shh shifter because i have heard many good thingd about it

If the fanatec had the same h pattern as the thrust master I would definitely buy it

@lucaspoole8866

2 жыл бұрын

agreed

Thanks for the review. I noticed quite a bit of wobble in your stand's shifter mount, both sides. I'd think that would drive me crazy. Do you notice it when you shift?

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

You don't notice it when you are driving. But this problem is about the rSeat RS1. I don't recommend it. It's too expensive.

Hello does the gloves get hot if you wear them a long time I'm planning of getting the same one's but in grey to match the alacntara rim.

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, it get hot when you are driving a long time with it.

Time you got some Alpinestar racing shoes m8 ;) BTW, what pedal mounting system are you using there? Did you make it or purchase it?

@kronospost135

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment ^^ For the pedal mounting system ? I bought a Rseat RS1 (seat+ a complete mounting system for all wheels, shifters, and pedals).

@teakbridge101

10 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post Ah, ok. Tried Assetto Corsa with that rig, m8? I hear the CSW plus that game is killer.

@kronospost135

10 жыл бұрын

All games/simulators are nice with this wheel. Fanatec did a great work. :)

That is an rseat rs1 right? Does the fanatec shifter mount right on to it or do you need any seperate accessoires?

@kronospost135

5 жыл бұрын

Expensive accessory needed unfortunately...

@NLGamingTheory

5 жыл бұрын

Kronospost oh, that’s unfortunate. Thanks for the reply!

ive heard a lot about th8a getting hate because they miss shift alot? i got this for christmas and soo far these few days ive RARELY had miss shifts, for me anyway the shifter just moves the right direction, it never misses

@livelongandprosper70

Жыл бұрын

Thats mostly Americans who are not used to a manual (stick) gearbox..its a skill issue

what seat is this that you use?

@kronospost135

6 жыл бұрын

rSeat RS1

que asiento usas ?

@kronospost135

6 жыл бұрын

I've the rSeat RS1.

That' s the video I was looking for !!! Can you tell me what is moving when you use the Fanatec shifter, is it just the plate or the complet shifter mount ? Thank you. Thumbs Up !

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

I don't really understand the question... Sorry ^^' The support (RS1) isn't very perfect about the shifter (it's moving a little) because of the weight of the shifter.

@jimmydousse8652

9 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post Apparemment tu parles français alors se sera plus simple comme ça ;) Je voulais savoir qu' est ce qui bouge exactement si c' est la plaque sur laquelle le shifter est vissé ou si c' est l' accesoire en entier qui bouge ? Merci

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

Pardon, je dois être fatigué, mais pour moi ce n'est toujours pas aussi clair. ^^' Si c'est une question en rapport avec le siège Rseat RS1, comme je l'ai dit, le support n'est pas parfait. Avec le poids du Shifter, le bras qui le tient se déforme légèrement. C'est quand même gênant vu le prix de l'accessoire...

Is the Thrustmaster shifter compatible with the Fanatec base?

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

Yes

@-Sean_

7 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post For console? I don't have a nice pc yet.

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

I think it's not compatible on console. But i'm not sure.

@-Sean_

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Your setup is sweet

Hi. Is this the Rseat-Rig?

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

It's the Rseat RS1.

I don't understand why they can't sell just the plate on top on the mount for the clupsport shifter!! If we already have the mount why charge for another if we don't want it. They should have just included the plate in the rs1 package and called it a day. Paying 130$+ just to have it clupsport compatible is bullshit and they know it!! I'm looking into some 8020 extrusion to put under the rig for shifter and more adjustability for the pedals. I'm 6'5 and for certain pedals you need a bit more room for legs. I'm even looking into something for inverted pedals with the 8020. Overall I think it will look nice if if done calculative. I rather pay for something like that and make perhaps a RS1 V2 with even more adjustability!!

fanatec is my dream *__*

Are those baking gloves?

@-Sean_

7 жыл бұрын

Ha! That's not a bad idea, you should call sparco.

I've got Thrustmarster but I'm getting the fanatec shifter

@deeproracing1978

3 жыл бұрын

CA YOU USE FANATEC On Thursmaster wheel?

@carreviewsandmore5581

3 жыл бұрын

@@deeproracing1978 Yes, With the Clubsport USB Adapter for $19.95..

@notthatbad8844

2 жыл бұрын

Oh

TM TH8A (or TH8RS if you prefer) is the best choice at the start because is far way cheaper then Fanatec Clubsport Shifter (130€ against 350€ + 50€ for the table clamp) and you can use it in 3 ways: 1- H Shifter (7+1) 2- Sequential (+/-) 3- Handbrake (yes it works fine) And after you get satisfied about simracing and you wanna go far you can buy the Fanatec and keep them both: Fanatec as shifter/seq and TH8A as handbrake.

@Simlife101

3 жыл бұрын

Alberto Piccotti well 3 yrs later it is £170 and i paid £280 for the fanatec which is miles ahead of TM which imo is an over pirced piece of shit

@Simlife101

3 жыл бұрын

or just buy the heusinkveld handbrake for £50 more than the TM shifter as a handbrake i know because mine literally arrived 1 hour ago and wow

@albpiccyt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Simlife101 you obviously didn't get what I said and your comment came here after 3 years. You POV is not objective, so no questioning with a Fanatec fanboy.

All these shifters are pretty good they're all way better than a control pad or keyboard think about budget and think about your own personal preference at the end of the day the gear shifter in a real car is nothing special I drive a car and a van I've never thought it feels amazing

I got the same socks!!

Which one do you like more?

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

The Fanatec CSS is better but also a little too expensive. :)

@ji3200

9 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post im getting the 1.5 version one next week

@ji3200

9 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post i have clubsport wheel base with bmw wheel just like you, do you notice wheel centering got weaker over time?

@KjellEilertsen

8 жыл бұрын

+Kronos Post I have a broken CSS SQ (beta unit, no warranty sadly), so I'm in the market for a new shifter atm. I don't care about the sequential function at all, I never use it on mine, so I'm wondering if it's worth getting the TH8 asap or save up for a lil longer and get the v 1,5 Fanatec non SQ. I mostly use H shift for old classics. You find the H patter on the Fanatec shifter worth almost double the price of the TH8 shifter?

@kronospost135

8 жыл бұрын

+Kjell Eilertsen The CSS is very awesome for the possibility to change to the sequential or to the H shifter very quickly. But if you need only a H shifter, I think the TH8RS is enough (despite the feeling is a better for the CSS).

All that great gear but and a tiny monitor. it seems so common. Get a used 4k 50" Samsung, LG, Vizio M series, or the infamous TCL p607/p605 if you can find one. see specs on TVs at rtings.com. I have the TCL p607 I got for used $150 but I was wanting that specific TV for a long time because it has insane specs and has double this Nits in Brightness for HDR than any other TVs in its price range. in 2017 it was $600ish new and uses samsung panels unlike the cheap black friday TCL budget tvs you see. They make great TVs in there mid to high end models. It makes for a great overall monitor which is important and it has really low latency that nots noticeable at all. I went from a Samsung 50' KU6300 to the 55' TCL p607. Another great thing is that since there Big TVs, you can run custom resolutions/aspect ratios through windows and can run ultrawide at 3840x1600 which on my 55" equates to about a 43" to 44" inch Ultrawide which you cant even get in that size with a gaming monitor let alone the price of a good used 4K tv for around $200 (especially for Sim racing you want all that screen real estate). For a 38" ultrawide pc monitor your looking at $700minimum and the only thing gaming monitors have over the right 4K TVs is that TVs are still 60hz which to me is completely fine and buttery smooth. Ive gamed on a 144hz monitor and its definitely better/smoother but id rather have the value of a big screen, multiple aspect ratios, and custom resolutions over a 120-144hz monitors that are really small (to me). Ive been using a large TV for a PC monitor for 7+ years now mainly because in the beginning I lived in a studio and had to make a solution for a home theatre and a PC/console gaming (mainly sims) all in one solution, so I did my research, bought big TV So i coud game, watch youtube, use streaming sites, use netflix, all with my home theatre. After that, sitting down at a friends pc with a 27" or 32" monitor felt so tiny and weird. since the amazing TCL P607 is hard to find I would recommend and 6300 series Samsung but if you can get the KU from 2016 that has the best specs out of all the 6300 models each year even to this date. Its like manuefacturers are making midreange TVs worse every year to push sales for the $1000 range TVs. Ive spent days comparing specs on TVs and have noticed this . Especially with the Nits in brightness for HDR. The KU6300 from 2016 has about 380-400 nits, my TCL has around 600-700nits, and the newer yeared versions of samsung's 6300s are at like 300nits. Even new gaming monitors hover around 400 nits and Dolby suggests at least 800-1000nits to get the accurate HDR experience but even if your not into HDR having a bright clear image that is also color calibrated into the 98% range is really nice. Anyways I just realized this video its like 7 years old and this rant could have been for nothing. lol

Use racing shoes it will be better with such great pedals, otherwise it’s slippery

idk for me TH8A looks more realistic as a real shifter and that fanatek yall crazy about... maybe it is better quality but doesn't feel so good when it comes to shifting in ats or ets ....it looks good as a sequential shifter but not as good as a regular H shifter.

@4strokebloke528

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I only play Horizon so laptimes aren't a huge concern. So, even if it is slower... I honestly think the longer throw of the TH8A makes it more interesting to use. And it looks the part too. I tried one at an electronics store and loved the feeling of it. But who knows maybe the fanatec is even better once you try it?

Is it the Rseat RS1 ?

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's

@dannifugl3188

9 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post Nice. What do you think ? The shiftermount looks abit loose ?

@kronospost135

9 жыл бұрын

The RS1 is really nice for big heavy wheels like the T500RS or the CSW. It doesn't move, it's solid, it's perfect for me. However, about the shiftermount, with the CSS, I'm not very satisfied. The CSS is more heavy than the TH8RS and so it's moving a little when I use it. And it's also very expensive for just an option (the RS1 isn't compatible without this expensive option with the CSS). But I'm still very happy to have this nice stuff from rSeat and Fanatec. :)

@dannifugl3188

9 жыл бұрын

Kronos Post Cool. Its also my goal to have a rig like this. Im having the CSW and considering the RS1 now. Thanks for the reply

you dot need to go through all of the gears when you are downshifting

Thrustmaster looks flimsy and switching modes looks like a huge pain. Fanatec all the way... I've got one on order, but they won't have more until 9/30/14. >_< I hate waiting.

@kronospost135

10 жыл бұрын

Nice choice ;) I think Fanatec gives almost always a "fake date". Your product will be shipped before this date (some days before).

Clubsport*

bro, why the gloves

@kronospost135

8 жыл бұрын

+legitskateclips Because of the grip you can have with it. It's also a protection for alcantara steering wheel. And for the immersion.

@johnulmer1622

8 жыл бұрын

+Roenie You won't be feeling alcantara for very long. It'll turn into a smooth surface very quickly.

@canadiankrispybacon1450

8 жыл бұрын

+Roenie also, if you play for any amount of time the edges of the paddles are hard on the fingers as well as the wheel when at the 9-3. If I am on for a few mins or half hour no big deal, but multiple hours the gloves help for sure

@Calle...

6 жыл бұрын

+Roenie Alcantara and Suede were designed for use on steering wheels for one reason and that is to give maximum grip together with gloves that traditionally also had Suede patches. Modern gloves use small suction cups instead which give even better grip.

well one thing is for sure,, all this that shift or that shift or this wheel or that wheel is going to mean absolutely nothing in around 2 or 4 weeks once the Dk2 starts hitting SIM racers home man caves..... There is looking at a screen, even a triple u241h (which I have) means nothing compared to actually being IN the game, being IN the game and not digital homeless which is were we all currently are. Every thing is going to be changing soon its nice you have the right driving hardware (I am right now selling my g27 to go up to the t500). Oculus rift is sick.

@MrNiceHk

9 жыл бұрын

You are still going to need a stick

@johnulmer1622

8 жыл бұрын

+Nigel Mayhem (NM) Didn't quite work out the way you thought it would, did it. At the end of the day, the feel of high end peripherals beats out the Occulus. Three 27 or 32 inch screens give you better immersion, considering that you have a better fov and much better resolution.

@nigelmay6870

8 жыл бұрын

john ulmer what do you mean? I have an obutto rev, Phillips 40" 4k, 980ti, run assetto corsa at absolute max settings @ plus 75fps in the dk2, and use a t500rs with maximum performance pedals. Will be picking up the commercial version once bookings are open in a matter for days. Worked out pretty ok actually have a nice day.

@johnulmer1622

8 жыл бұрын

Narrow FOV, low resolution, and you are in a VR headseat. Good 144hz triples give you a more realistic immersion, since you can actually see your peripherals and you have a much better FOV. A single 40" TV is completely irrelevant to the topic.

@nigelmay6870

8 жыл бұрын

relax, things are looking better for us all. www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3ynsim/i_got_to_try_the_consumer_beta_ecv7_and_here_is/ also ill tell you not the other way around I know more and seems experienced more I already had triple screen and I have worked in IT most likely longer than you on the earth :-) get a great gpu and lets get into great sim racing in 2016. Im all set here, the maximum performance pedals have been a huge upgrade, I have plenty more ready to go to improve the experience, I am also supporting custom mod car creation so yeah im doing stuff. Have a nice new years.

Thrustmaster probably works well on truck sims - Fanatec for racers

So what this Comparison says if you have a fuck load of cash buy the big fancy one. I know i would, mainly because it looks better and is going to be a better shifter for the money

@johnulmer1622

8 жыл бұрын

+Pedro Chapps I'm not so sure that $199 is a fuckload of cash. You won't remember how much it cost after you are using it.

@TooManyChoices1

7 жыл бұрын

john ulmer Got an early one for 150 Fanatec SQ all the way.

you get what you pay for

ofc fanatec is better

at 2:39 u are using gloves but not like shoes XD

@byGiNeSiToX

8 жыл бұрын

The wheel has Alcántara and you can brake it without gloves, and the pedals doesn't require shoes...

@marmorslott16

8 жыл бұрын

+byGiNeSiToX Bananas ok, thank you

@xthepisco12

7 жыл бұрын

byGiNeSiToX Bananas Why do you mean by"brake"?

@-Sean_

7 жыл бұрын

The alcantara can be worn down faster if you don't wear gloves.

@RalfBlees

7 жыл бұрын

If you sweat a lot the Alcantara gets ugly fast. I prefer to drive with no gloves, but with shoes... LC Pedal with 90kg and socks, that ruin the socks and the feet

You ran out of cash and missed the big screen! 😂 just kidding.

I bet he has a helmet on, too

No gameplay with the thrustmaster cause you know its better.

Gloves on the PC? What else, helmet, jumpsuit and safety belts? One can also exaggerate...

@swekiller98

7 жыл бұрын

no it's for protecting the alcatnara rim

TH8R looks way better, the fanatec just looks crap. but I also prefer the Daytona USA Arcade machine Shifter over the Fanatec. no I'm not being nostalgic either I recently went and played Daytona USA Arcade on the real arcade machine. please note that this is my opinion and I fully respect your opinion just leave my opinion alone and I'll leave your opinion alone.

@RevvinUK

6 жыл бұрын

The Fanatec shifter is an all metal unit, way more durable than the Thrustmaster and switching from sequential to h-pattern takes seconds with the flick of a switch, you don't have to disassemble the unit like the Thrustmaster. The shifting action on the Thrustmaster looks cheap and unrealistic where as the Fanatec gives a nice mechanical feel as you go through the gate. Given my experience of after sales support from both companies I'd buy Fanatec all day long, they have always been most helpful where as Thrustmaster made me jump through hoops as a customer to fix a brand new device I bought from their own online store.

@WednesdayMan

6 жыл бұрын

I recently tried the fanatec shifter it really is good, the shifter is pretty realistic and this coming from a person who mainly drives a manual car

you're wearing gloves?.... really... why not use oven mittens??? and if gloves are so necessary then why no shoes?

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

Watch other comments on the video before to talk... It's so boring all people asking that each months... And I'm clearly not the only one who do that on youtube... And yes, shoes can be very useful to have too (mainly when you have a load cell brake pedal). Little example : kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIJoubmDmNzYg9I.html "OMG ! Really ? Daniel Abt, a professionnal driver who drive with gloves on sim racing ?! Hahaha that's stupid !"

Fanatec look cheap :/

Le gars porte des gans mais es en chaussettes 🤷‍♀ et compare deux boîte de vitesse qui ne sont absolument pas dans la même game c'est comme comparer une ps1 à une ps4 apart le principe ça a rien à voire

@kronospost135

5 жыл бұрын

Si tu avais été plus malin tu aurais lu les commentaires en dessous pour savoir que : - Les gants sont quasi-nécessaires quand tu possède un volant en Alcantara pour ne pas l'user. Mais que chacun est libre de rouler comme il le sent. -La comparaison est intéressante. Ce n'est pas parce que ce n'est pas le même prix qu'elle ne doit pas avoir lieu. Beaucoup de gens sont prêt à payer un peu plus cher pour avoir un meilleur shifter mais peu savent réellement si cela vaut le coup ou pas comparé à un TH8RS. Je donne une partie de la réponse dans cette vidéo et je laisse les gens faire leur propres conclusions vu que je n'y fais aucun commentaire. - Je commence à en avoir marre des gens qui critiquent sans réfléchir (surtout quand c'est toujours les même remarques idiotes).

150€ vs 300€..... no comparison......

@kronospost135

7 жыл бұрын

La comparaison est intéressante à faire. Tu croise facilement pas mal de personnes qui se posent la question pour l'achat d'un futur shifter. Le TH8RS a un gros point fort : son prix. Mais certains sont prêt à mettre plus, à condition que ce soit vraiment intéressant. Cela fait un moment que j'ai fait cette vidéo et je suis surpris de voir le nombre de "pouce rouge". Je n'explique pourtant rien. Je ne donne même pas mon avis. Je montre simplement ce que j'ai devant moi pour que les gens se fassent leur propre idée.

at 2:39 u are using gloves but not like shoes XD

@swekiller98

7 жыл бұрын

it's for protecting the alcatnara rim