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That line Moxxie says in episode one, "'Maybe like a sh***y dad... or a mob family. That's understandable." definitely hits a lot differently now. I love that we got to learn about Moxxie's past, but damn, his backstory really broke my heart. Crimson is without a doubt the most despicable character in the show's universe. I'm so happy Moxxie has Millie by his side because he deserves so much better than what he had for most of his life.
@The_Riss
6 ай бұрын
most despicable character in the show's universe *so far*
@purgeblue
6 ай бұрын
It makes me question why in episode 5 and 7 when people mention where he’s from, both Fizz and Moxxie himself said he’s from the Wrath ring like Millie. But he’s from Greed
@GasparzinOfTheCoffee
6 ай бұрын
I got a question, in episode 5, Moxxie says that he was also born in the wrath ring, but in this episode, he appears to have spend his whole life on the greed ring, so it's a retcon or im missing something?
@DanGamingFan2846
6 ай бұрын
@@purgeblue I think it's confirmed, but I could be wrong, that Moxxie's mom was from Wrath. And since he had a much better relationship with her, he identifies as being from Wrath too.
@sir.goat4595
6 ай бұрын
@@The_Rissyour acting like people are supposed to be good in hell. 💀
"Is it gonna be Moxxie's dad? Is it Millie's ex?" How TF Alicia gonna make two guesses about the same thing and be right about _both of them?_
@josh_miester_x511
6 ай бұрын
Tbh, it's not that hard to predict. Millie mentioning her ex is like, a set up, to see him later. And Crimson has the same VA as Moxx, so.
@Shiobana753
6 ай бұрын
I mean it was obvious
@user-sw6ys9fy9g
6 ай бұрын
Epithet erased
@Shythalia
6 ай бұрын
Because that's how good writing works. That's how you're supposed to write stories, especially episodes. You're supposed to provide a little clue or a bit of foreshadowing in the beginning. That's just how it is.
Fun fact: According to Vivienne Medrano, they tried to make the design of Moxxie's mom as Wrath/country-style as possible because she was born in the Wrath Ring. Her clothing is obviously influenced by Latin-American Baroque style, her dress including elements of the baiana and pollera. Judging that her design is intended to be very Wrath-like, his may infer a similarity between Latin-American aesthetics and Wrath aesthetics in the HB universe. According to Medrano, Moxxie values his mother's side of his heritage far more than his dad's.
Yes, Crimson killed his wife however, that wasn't who Moxxie pushed into the water. That was a random male imp (you can tell by the horns), that owed Crimson money. If you listen carefully you can hear him say, "I'll pay.....I have a family."
A lot of people read Crimson as being jealous of Moxxie getting his mother's attention. To me it looks more like he sees her as coddling him and preventing him from taking conrol of molding him into what he wants. That's why he got rid of her instead of having her sent away.
@BlueBlazeKing
6 ай бұрын
Weird I always see people reading it as the latter , never the former
@SaltyGamer41
6 ай бұрын
@BlueBlazeKing I've seen both. But more often the people I've watched only look at the surface level and don't remember callbacks or context.
The most horrifying realization of all for me, was the fact that somewhere on that wall, Crim probably has the horns of Moxxie's mother on display. I hope Mox finds them and either buries or destroys them; she doesn't deserve that.
@rosenrot234
6 ай бұрын
Given how much Crimson wanted her attention. I'd bet its in his room.
@YukoValis
6 ай бұрын
It was weird how chat was like "that wasn't the mom because the horns were different" but it is obvious the horns were cut off. So yeah there is a chance he has those on display somewhere. That is kind of his thing regarding trophies.
@teamvlcn6820
6 ай бұрын
@@YukoValisWe can still see the base of the horns, and they have very prominent white bases. Female Imp horns are mostly black with thin white lines.
@Shythalia
6 ай бұрын
@@teamvlcn6820 Her shoe was also too far from the body they just dumped. That was to show she was dumped there long before that scene, most likely right after she left. It's so silly how many people misinterpret that scene. The body didn't even look as feminine as his mom.
@inkblooded1058
6 ай бұрын
@@YukoValis I will say, I don't believe the imp in the boat was Moxxie's mother; if you listen to the muffled voice, it sounds distinctly masculine. We don't know what Moxxie's mother sounds like, but I don't think she'd sound like that. Honestly, as much as I think it's in Crim's wheelhouse to do something horrible like getting Moxxie to finish off his mother, I'm far more convinced that Crim is so selfish and cruel that he wouldn't be able to bear not pulling the trigger himself, along with some cruel one-liner before she died.
Fun fact, the subtitles describe the music that plays during Millie's fight scene as "Girlboss country music"
I remember when Alicia was essentially bedridden, so her being able to get up mid-recording and lay claim to her fiance is great to see!
I love the duality of the chat, when Moxxie's mom's shoe floated up, of trying to clarify that Moxxie didn't kill his mom and that she was already there and every one else screaming in shock
With how much Alicia likes Millie's personality, I feel like she'd enjoy touring the Wrath Ring in general.
@teamvlcn6820
6 ай бұрын
She's gonna enjoy the next episode.
Fun fact about the Mafia: They originally started as a sort of "police for people who couldn't go to the police". While they loosely stuck to that credo, it quickly allowed them to get a chokehold on organised crime throughout Italy.
I do like that they make sure to remind folks that there is more to greed than money. Crimson was just butthurt the wife was tending to Moxxie and ignoring him.
@FrostyFyre
6 ай бұрын
Greed for attention, greed for control, greed for power/status, oh yeah Crimson is greedier than freaking Mammon when you think about it 😂
@rosenrot234
6 ай бұрын
I dunno man Mammon is pretty up there on the d bag list. Crimson is dangerously close to that level tho I do agree somewhat. @@FrostyFyre
@FrostyFyre
6 ай бұрын
@@rosenrot234 Oh yeah, d-bag level? They're comparable, I'd say when it came to base, unhealthy greed on various levels Crimson has Mammon beat. Also Mammon is a Grade A douche, but he didn't force Fizzaroli to drown his own mother in cold blood
@marce420.7
6 ай бұрын
@@FrostyFyre nah they're both really abusive, really heartless, i don't necessarily know how to compare the two because they're heartless and selfish in their own ways, cause mammons like the god of being a selfish b**** 😅
@rosenrot234
6 ай бұрын
Yeah but he did force Fizz to do a lot of dangerous acts. And even body shaming him to stay skinny. And the imp Moxxie dumps into the water wasn't even his mom. The horns and tail don't match. @@FrostyFyre
The trauma in this ep is heartbreaking... but the Millie pay off was priceless.
This episode really highlights WHY Moxxie had his reservations about killing Martha (the cheating woman in the first episode) and her family, and why he hesitated to shoot the picture Millie and Loona set up for training. It’s because of his own familial traumas. He didn’t wanna shoot Martha at first, because she seemed relatively innocent and wholesome, and that was probably a painful reminder of his own mother and losing her. I think it’s also why, even at the tail end of the episode, he still chose NOT to kill Ralphy (the husband) or the kids, even after discovering they were cannibals. He’s really been through it 😔
@markusnixon3156
6 ай бұрын
Moxxie such a sweet boi!
@zoelio999
6 ай бұрын
Also with that family being all killed, there's a fair chance they're in hell now. Might try to get revenge if they can.
@gokbay3057
6 ай бұрын
Also when aiming at the picture Loona was holding he was like "maybe a shitty dad, or a mob family... That would be understandable".
If I remember correctly, Loona's VA was sick at the time, hence why she doesn't say anything in this episode.
@EdXLover1
6 ай бұрын
Actually her fiancee had passed on, so she was grieving
8:50, YEP. Wings and tails from Succubus. Pelts from Hellhounds. Horns from Imps. And the teeth from other "Loan" Sharks.
@alexanderdelongchamps7594
6 ай бұрын
Did we forget to mention that crimson is a monster
21:00 To clarify, the person Moxxie killed fortunately wasn't his mom. Crimson killed her earlier.
11:30 Back in highschool, my class had these "unofficial yearbook votes" kinda like most likely to succeed and stuff like that, except they voted messed up stuff that wouldn't end up in the real yearbook. In the whole school I was voted "most likely to end up a school shooter" and, as one of the only white kids who was also bullied a lot, I found that hilarious. Later that year, we had an unscheduled active shooter drill. Right after the announcement happened, literally everyone in the room looked at me with genuine fear. I just went "it's not me this time" and it still makes me chuckle
20:50- Look at the horns Alicia. It's physically impossible for him to be Moxxie's mom.
The person Moxxie pushes over the boat wasn't his mother as the pattern is different in both. His mother has a tail of one straight colour whereas the person he pushed over the boat has a striped tail.
Major kudos to Richard Steven Horvitz on this one, perfectly handling playing both sides of some very emotionally intense conversations, and also keeping the subtly different voices straight through it all.
I'm not sure if the scars on Chaz's chest mean that multiple people have tried to stab him in the heart, or if someone tried to carve out his heart while chaz was alive, and got pretty far.
@Kaempfdog
6 ай бұрын
Is no one going to bring up that Chaz has TWO under the belt and has THAT small of an area he displays for Moxxie later in his “love” song? (Also Chaz ain’t got NOTHING on Ozzie’s 30/10 singing voice. Guess his lust got nothing on the king.)
@vegvisir9276
6 ай бұрын
probably a mix of angry lovers and actual wounds from when he was working for the mob on jobs
I do wish Moxxie had the chance to show his stuff as the capable hitman he is. He really gets snubbed most of these episodes in favor of Mille getting the spotlight.
@undertakernumberone1
6 ай бұрын
yeah. I hate that, the moment he stands up to Crimson, he gets taseredlike it's intended to be a dark humour mood whiplash. Just like in Harvest Moon Festival when Loona kicks the door into his face. We already know that Millie is a one woman ball of destruction... give Moxxie his due! Millie meanwhile could use more character stuff... And when she getsm ore character stuff a few epsiodes down, it feels a bit like "the fans really feel like Millie's ot much of a focal character... let's make that a plot point" pandering, for hte episode, which feels, to me, a bit outta nowhere.
@Shythalia
6 ай бұрын
I don't get how he doesn't notice Crimson literally nodding at his henchman right in front of him and then the henchman moving closer to him. That was very suspicious and he should've seen that. He'd been with this mafia and abusive life for many years. He would've known those actions as it would be familiar to him.
@rise.-mikey
5 ай бұрын
He already did that a few times. This time it's about him standing up to his abuser, which is just of a strong point then killing. Even more so then killing tbh.
@CaptainCFalcon
5 ай бұрын
@@rise.-mikey and I'm not putting that down, but this is the 3rd time Millie gets to go ham, & we're well aware of what she's capable of.
@Jay-gurl
3 ай бұрын
Plus, in Western Energy, Moxxie takes on a whole biker gang and wins; but it's in the background. He has a bad ass moment, and is surprisly capable for the guy who's only suppose to be good with guns. But we don't really get to see much of it. Unlike Millie who always gets these bad girl boss moments.
So Moxie has stated in episode 5 of season 1 that he is from the Wrath ring and this was also announced in the first part of the finale when he went to sing at Ozzie's. Yet his dad is from the Greed ring and we see scenes of him growing up there. Either it is a retcon or maybe his mother is from Wrath and maybe gave birth to him there?
@wildstyle9239
6 ай бұрын
I just thought he lied. Because when he had to take down the hog he pulled out a gun when Striker said he needed a knife. If Moxxie grew up in the Wrath Ring (the ring known for stuff like this) he should've already known. I also think that people from the wrath ring has accents like millie but Moxxie doesn't which doesn't line up with him being from Wrath.
@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
6 ай бұрын
He was born in the Wrath ring, and his mother is from there (that's the point of her outfit), but its assumed that they moved to the Greed ring when he was still young.
@teamvlcn6820
6 ай бұрын
@@wildstyle9239 Moxxie does have a minor Wrathian accent, so I think his mom is from there, and because he wants to avoid everything to do with his father, he'd rather identify with his mother's side of the family.
@Gaterman
6 ай бұрын
He was born in Wrath but raised in Greed though maybe he remembers Wrath when he was very young too. When he said he was from Wrath he was associating more with his mother (since she is from there) than his father since he actually likes her. Actually Millie kind of fills in that role for Moxxie, she's a tough woman from Wrath who cares for him, thus doubling down his like for the place dispite him not fitting in there.
@BaeBunni
6 ай бұрын
It wouldn't be that unusual I mean Crimson seems like a POS but pretty charismatic it wouldn't be hard to see him being some low level goon and seducing Moxxie's mom for a while and when he found out he has a child he made them come live with him in greed ring when he "made it big" so to speak.
This along along with Episode 6 are my favourite episodes of Season 2
Oh right. I forgot to mention trivia so here we go. Moxxie's last name is Knolastname. Millie took his surname so she's also a Knolastname. His Mom is from Wrath. So Moxxie values that side of his heritage more than his Greed heritage. So he says he's from Wrath when asked. He was born in Wrath but was raised in Greed. One of the main goons for Crimson is named Al. Crim and Al. Criminal. Ha. The prison jumpsuits Moxxie and Blitz wear have the numbers 69 on them I just think its cute Blitz got a baby sitter for Loona. A lot of folks think it was Millie. Folks working on the show had their computers crash because of all the censored dildos.
Not sure if you guys caught it but in the wedding we learn Moxxie's full name, being "Moxxie Knolastname" XD
the flashback in this episode is my favourite moment from the entire series the storytelling was so beautifully done and without a single word it was heart breaking and captivating at the same time. and we all know Moxxie is a goddamned stallion down there he's the horse they were talking about and Chaz is compensating
Such a pro intro. I love all of it. The energetic nature, the playing with your voice, the facecam-work... I absolutely love your intros. 😁
She Gives Of Caffeine Gremlin Vibes And Im Definitely Here For It
1: My relationship with my family is why I stan Moxxie. 2: Alicia KNOWS WHAT BEARD MEANT!! First KZreadr to know! (My family are not criminals, for the most part. Just emotionally and psychologically abusive. It has been a several generations long chain that I am fighting very hard to break.)
Hey Alicia keep the subtitles on because they have actuall accurate subtitles in this season for most o fthe episodes
@300DBenz
6 ай бұрын
And some hilarious easter eggs too!
Moxxie's mother was from Wrath, while his Crimson is from Greed. And even though Moxxie was born and raised in Greed, he refers himself to being from Wrath because well you've seen his father.
@chriskoloski32
6 ай бұрын
It also shows why he's so desperate for the attention and approval of his in laws
@BaeBunni
6 ай бұрын
I always saw it has Crimson is a pos but pretty charming and likely slept with Moxxie's mom and only came back when he found out she had a kid.
Millie solo'd those guys like a true tank/DPS hybrid lol.
@ninjakirby777
6 ай бұрын
Bruiser/juggernaut
@Hellsrejected666
6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't describe her as a tank or a juggernaut we see her getting hit with a bottle passing out, rammed against a wall being to injured to stand up, and even here getting hit once and needing blitzø to distract the goon I see her more like a glass cannon(/) which is why her and moxxie are the perfect duo they really complement each other
watching her chat desperately trying to let her know Moxxie didn't kill his mom that it was a male imp in that sack.
Aw yes, Xs and Os. One of the Best episodes of Season 2, so far. Moxie getting a Dark and Tragic backstory, Millie being an absolute BOSS, and WE EVEN GOT A SHREK REFERENCE. That movie came out in 2001 (god dame i feel old thinking about that), the people that know that line are probably in their 20s or 30s at this point. Oh, also meet Crimson and add him to the Villien List. And yes im pretty sure he has his Wifes Horns and Tail hanging in his Bedroom somewhere.
@undertakernumberone1
6 ай бұрын
Best episodes? meh. Honestly, imho Ep 2. 6 and 7 easily declass it. Also... we already know htat MIllie is "an absolute boss"... We've seen it often enough. it's moxxie who needs scenes to be badass! On his own, rather than in team ups. And not get immediately tasered or have Loona kick a door in his face. Also,d now we have 3 for 3 of the main male characters having abusive fathers. Creative.
@jaywerner8415
6 ай бұрын
@@undertakernumberone1 Yeah i really hate every time they UNDER CUT Moxxie like that. At least him getting tased here kinda made sense (ya don't just threaten a mob boss). At least the wedding song was a banger. Episode 2 is kinda all over place, with some nice moments from Blitz and Loona. Alexia's "Fathers & Daughters" title was certainly fitting. (seriously the only memorable moment is Blitz's flashback and Loona/Octavia's talk) But yeah, they really just need to Hand Moxxie a sniper rifle and tell him to go murder someone. He's good with his hands, and guns. Also would kill for a Girls Night episode just to give Millie, Loona and Octavia more screen time, they could use some time away from the boys.
LoL, Alicia marking her territory 😂
This is the episode I've been wanting for you to watch
Yeah, this episode went crazy. We went from the Godfather to Shrek and then went to Kill Bill. So many movie genres in 1 dam 30 minute episode.
Okay for those of you who don't know. Luna not talking was a deliberate choice by Spindle Horse. That doesn't mean they are getting rid of Luna or recasting her VA. She just simply didn't have any lines. And by some strange coincidence, during production Erica Lindbeck (Luna 's voice actor)'s fiancée, Billy Kametz (also a voice actor), passed from colon cancer.
@Crazael
6 ай бұрын
I thought she was supposed to have lines, but they cut them out because of the whole fiance thing because she was busy and they wanted to give her time.
The music when they go to greed gives me serious Invader Zim vibes. Gotta appreciate it
It was a different demon for anyone who got confused! Moxie’s father had already killed Moxie’s mom
I hope she'll get through the next episodes soon
Oh and don't worry the imp that got dumped into the lake wasn't his mom. The horns were male among other things. She was already dead
@rosenrot234
6 ай бұрын
Nada. Her shoe just floated to the top. @@Ashurman666
Honestly, I felt like Moxxie should've gotten more shine in this episode, I would've loved seeing him kick ass too
this episode was GOATED
millie is probobly one of the best written strong female charecters i have seen in a while
Moxy did not kill his mom.. His dad did. Moxy threw a guy over board in the same place his mom was dumped.
Moxxie mother was killed previously, Moxxie was forced to kill a male imp. When the Imps body hit the bottom, it disturbed Moxxie’s mother’s corpse causing her shoe to float up.
Yeyy more helluva boss
My head canon *Millie and her family are reserves of Satan's army*, based on combat skills and things Millie's family was saying in the Striker episode.
Loved the reaction! It was so entertaining. Especially enjoyed your enthusiasm at the end for Crim's trophies 😅😂😂😂
The Greed area they go through's music sounds like Invader Zim theme song, which Moxxie's Voice actor played Zim
Woah! That was fast! Also, this episode was dark. I knew you would hate Crimson.
Any Father who demands his kids call him "sir" is the reddest of flags.
Oh my gosh you're getting so close to the best episodes!!!!! You're gonna love ep 6 and 7 of s2!!!
Add master of the culinary arts to her skills because Millie just turned a small army into fresh sushi 🍣
I love how his last name is literally "Nolastname"
This episode made Moxxie's actions in Murder Family make sense. He was watching as Blitz was about to kill a seemingly innocent mother who clearly loved her kids. And then Blitz casually remarked about RUINING A FAMILY, which is EXACTLY what happened when his dad killed his mom. It triggered him HARD and made him flash back... in that moment he wasn't adult Moxxie but CHILD Moxxie, and Blitz wasn't Blitz anymore he was CRIMSON, and Martha wasn't 'the target', she was suddenly HIS MOM. And he proceeded, with zero hesitation or thought, to do EXACTLY what he wishes he'd been strong enough to do then: He saved his mom, from his dad. The flashback only lasted a moment before he snapped out of it but by then the damage was done.
You know, if Crimson wasn't so... Crimson, the "yeah, gay" line might've been weirdly wholesome
Gosh dang it when he called Millie a beard I just went for about 10 minutes trying to find the definition and then as soon as I push play 3 seconds later she explains what it is 😅
if there's one thing that is more terrifying then mil in a red rage murder mode, it is her in a FOCUSED red rage murder mode. Striker got the upper hand on her cause she was seeing red and not focused. here shes focused and damn near untouchable.
So I looked up Mr hands... I'm never going to unsee that.
I was waiting for this episode and for her to meet crimson in all of his vicious, evil, monstrous. And also see chaz that too
I just noticed Crimson threw a shark at Millie and she threw back sushi 🤣
Crimson is such a cool villain i cant wait to see him return. The way he has to die is getting killed by moxxie its only right.
Because it is unclear. It seems very likely that Crimson had Moxxies mom killed earlier and that Moxxie killed someone else. People looked at the horns and what other stuff was visible and concluded that the person Moxxie killed was someone else.
Goated episode
Say hello to THE ABSOLUTE WORST DAD IN HELL (which is an insane achievement)
On the bright side Millie reduced his payroll and saved Crimson lots of money.
Also, this episode confirms that Blitz thinks M&M are both hot
@theycallmebad
6 ай бұрын
I mean, he literally acted out having a threesome with them in episode 2 season 1.
20:50 It's not his mom. The body structure and what's left of the horns is wrong. That's just some random male imp. That doesn't mean his mom wasn't disposed of. Just that Moxxie didn't do the disposing in this scene.
0:21 evil laugh and smile >:)
It wasn't his mom he pushed off the boat. If you looked at the horns, you'd see that it was a male imp. As evidenced by the shoe tho, Crimson did throw her in that lake at some point.
Always great to see more of this.:D Oh, one I suggest you try reacting to is the Live Action of Yu Yu Hakusho that recently released. 55 minutes per ep, and a mere 5 eps. I think you'd like it.
Remember when Helluva Boss was fun and funny? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
14:20 I'm pretty sure most of sinners in the hazbin universe have a restraining order against Mr hands
My fav easter egg from this episode is at 30:41 you can see Sushi fly back at Crimson after he throws the small shark at Mille xD
Crimson really gave Chaz the Bombastic Side-Eye. The Criminal Offensive Side-Eye.
This episode was heartbreaking. I can’t believe something like that happened in Enumclaw…
Alright, finished the vid. Don't know if you took note of it, but remember that Imps are some of the lowest of the low in Hell's hierarchy. Can't remember if they're above or below Hellhounds, but they're close, and they're definitely below all the other kinds of demon... Crimson runs a massive mafia organization in Greed, the most cut throat ring, he has trophies from Imps, Hellhounds, Sharks, and Incubi/Succubi openly displayed in his house. He's a complete and total piece of shit, but it is also intriguing and impressive that he has such power and status despite being 'just' an imp.
That intro is adorkable♡
I don't know who or what "Mr hands" is, but I get the feeling that looking it up will put me on every government watchlist in the world.
Blitz's VA Brandon Roger's has a KZread channel where he does comedy skits. I highly of it
The imp that’s gagged and tied up is male and says “let me out.let me out. Please. I’m scared. Please I won’t tell anyone. Please I have a family.” Then it’s just sobs. Though it’s hard to tell and some of it is best guess.
We are now in the part of helluva boss where every episode has a banging good song.
this is probably my favorite episode so far. i love getting moxxie and millie development
Blitz’s sexual interest in horses is funny.
Let's fucking gooo! 😄 I've been anticipating this one. 😁
Just when Moxxie got out, they pulled him back in.
Can't wait for the next episode
The only reason Moxxie and Millie don't have trophies of all the people they kill is cuz they wouldn't have enough room on their wall
Millie: I OBJECT!
@stephaniegutierrez1064
4 ай бұрын
She was more like : That's my man ,and everyone here is gonna die today !!!! Also ,the fact that Alicia went to her boyfriend to tell him that 😂😂
@drewbrueckl8555
4 ай бұрын
@@stephaniegutierrez1064 More a reference to the shrek bit.
@stephaniegutierrez1064
4 ай бұрын
@@drewbrueckl8555 I know , i was just saing . 😁( I dint espect to you respond me )
big plot hole is how if they have their phones, why Millie wasnt going apeshit trying to text him and figure out what was going on.
18:46 You're the first person I've seen react positively to this scene 😅
Not gonna lie, I didn't know what a "beard" meant until this stream. Very educational content here folks.
8:58 - "Oh they're trophies after kills... hey isn't that the same necklace as Loona's...?" Me: [Realization hits] WAIT... DID CRIMSON KILL LOONA'S BIRTH PARENTS AND HOW TF DID I NOT CATCH THAT??
I love Millie’s action scene this episode
"How he even know?" Alicia, trust me, if you found a way to make it bigger, you'll know! 🤣
That was NOT his mom. The one HE sank in the water. THAT person was some random guy, I don't understand why people think THAT was his mom, it's clearly a man and doesn't look anything like how his mother dressed and was not wearing the shoes either. That WAS his mother's shoe however, indicating Crimson sank her previously. Moxie probably doesn't even know she's dead, much less that he did it. Also, continue to ration your tears, you'll need plenty of them still.