So he shot himself in the head and then carefully placed his hands back in his lap with the gun carefully still placed in his right hand? Sure

@petahoee8281

3 жыл бұрын

Right 🤔

@melisapryce7370

3 жыл бұрын

I'm here thinking the same. this was clearly staged.

@unknowny8443

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that but the weapons expert I kinda believe. They way he described it, seems plausible. I heard the way he did it you do tend to slump forward/you’re body will still move for a second or 2. I totally agree though his friend sounds totally guilty, just need more expert opinion imo because imo suicidal is still plausible (mostly due to that expert)

@lindsay8003

3 жыл бұрын

@@unknowny8443 I agree the examiner makes a good case

@88osprey

3 жыл бұрын

I have been a medic and cop for a over a decade- I have seen suicides where the gun flies out of their hand and ones like this. There’s no rules for suicides to follow. It depends on your grip strength, where are you shoot yourself, the caliber of the gun… There’s too many factors to just say that because the gun is still in his hand, it was placed there.

He's over explaining on that 911 call. That's one of the first giveaway of liars.

@eyang7

3 жыл бұрын

Yeap. Usually when u find someone dead. U freaked the fucked out and panic the f out when u call them. This fucker killed him for sure. The way he described it to make these moron police think that it's just a suicide since that dude said it. Bunch of morons if u asked me.

@soniamichelle2393

3 жыл бұрын

@@eyang7 Right. Some people are naturally 'flat' but he's talking like he's ordering a pizza. How he was not found Guilty makes no sense.

@Taliaher3

3 жыл бұрын

Yep!!

@Lucasthemann

3 жыл бұрын

@@soniamichelle2393 exactly. How he just KNEW it was a suicide and nothing else so case closed...

@Ena48145

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Telltale sign in these cases always. I used to always over explain to my parents when I was younger and lying to them.

If he shot himself,the impact wouldn't allow the gun to still be in his hand as showed. Come on now!

His mother is just so beautiful I didn’t realize her imperfections until at least five minutes in.. such a beautiful soul. It shines

@3amDayDreamer

3 жыл бұрын

She is gorgeous!! I also think she looks cool!

@lifestooreal1887

3 жыл бұрын

Uh huh...me either.

@fuegococoa

3 жыл бұрын

stop the cap, you didn't notice she had one eye??

@Quoteunquot3

3 жыл бұрын

You're pretty, if that is you in your prof pic :b nevermind the rest of the conversation.

@mainemermaid6596

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuegococoa Don't be a dick.

Its a damn shame our service women and men have to financially struggle like this.

@user-gj1me4mf5c

3 жыл бұрын

That lady is lying. They make WAY more than that plus they get free medical, free dental, free insurance, free uniforms, free boots, free housing on base and all the free food they can eat at the base mess hall.

@MelissaRae1975

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c We dont know there personal finances but I have a nephew in the service and he does not get paid a lot

@tymom9313

2 жыл бұрын

She's lying. 500 was probably only severance pay, not whole income

@leonp8746

Жыл бұрын

Well one thing is clear. They have poor financial habits. Who goes out drinking 🍸 to strip clubs and buy guys when you are so called barley making ends meet???

@TheGreatOne428

9 ай бұрын

4 kids is a lot to care for . Most families would struggle if they had 4 kids .

It’s crazy how suicides aren’t even investigated. You can literally hang a person then call and say you found them and you can get away with murder

@pulldancer2290

3 жыл бұрын

Like epsteins guards???

@pulldancer2290

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Shaffer GO BACK TO SLEEP..... If you have children ....They are going to get away with a lot.... You cant see evidence when its right in your face , or connect dots when patterns show them selfs...... If you just read the news headlines and went with that as the end all of scenario......THEN IM SORRY YOU ARE THAT DUMB....And i apologize to who ever you may have or will reproduce with.... Mark my words....Bad seas ahead for you

@ashleykhamphaseuth8513

3 жыл бұрын

It is crazy right, first of all if it was an accident I wanna know how his hand and gun laid perfectly in his lap ? It was not an accident.

@IDance4joy2

3 жыл бұрын

So sad. I hope they reopen the case.

@beautifuldisaster139

3 жыл бұрын

most departments do investigations even if suicide that’s how they can call it a suicide.. just because someone is hanging doesn’t always mean they hung their self.. there’s usually tell tell signs they also talk to family friends to get backgrounds on the person but they are suppose to at least look into every death

Idgaf how innocent I am, I would NEVER take a polygraph test. Even if you pass one, it barely plays in your favor. But if you fail it (which can easily occur even when you're completely truthful), then watch out. It's nearly impossible to come back from that.

@M3GPie

2 жыл бұрын

Or you pass it and they tell you that you failed it. Polygraph tests are basically just for manipulating people.

@deannamarshall8894

2 жыл бұрын

There's a reason why they aren't admissible in court, right?

@poloboyl89

2 жыл бұрын

@@deannamarshall8894 once you have this knowledge you see how they use this red meat tactic to get people to jail themselves.

@tinawindham6958

2 жыл бұрын

I took one 40 years ago when I started at job at a pharmacy. I had never seen mj let alone smoked it but they asked me over and over if I smoked it. It’s pseudoscience.never take one.

The thing that frustrates me about these shows is that when it is ruled a suicide they always say 'he would never do that', 'he never talked about depression or killing himself', 'he didn't act depressed', etc. Most people who kill themselves don't show obvious signs of killing themselves and last time I checked most suicidal people don't talk about feeling suicidal to most people if anybody at all. I am glad that they figure out if it was a wrong diagnosis at the end of the day but I hate hearing them say that stuff.

@NDNmixedblood

3 жыл бұрын

So true. My nephew committed suicide after serving two tours in Iraq, he came home in 2018 and he never mentioned suicidal thoughts or acted depressed. It was after his death that we realized he was suffering from PTSD.

@christopherhamer9584

3 жыл бұрын

Your spot on from my experience. August 4th, 2015 my best friend hung himself. He was the greatest person. He had a daughter that was 2 that he was proud of. He had a wife he loved. He was never upset and he was always the one to help me with my depression. When I got the call I didn't believe it. I kept saying he wouldn't do that and someone made it look like a suicide. I was in denial. But after I grieved, I know he did it. I can't believe I even thought someone did that to him. I think about him everyday. We met when we were 9 and for 18 years we were closer then brothers. But I understand what your talking about. Not all people who commit suicide show signs of depression or anything like that. R.I.P Jamie DeLeno.

@JustKelso1993

3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry for you guys and the people you have lost. That is why I hate hearing them say stuff like that, it spreads misinformation to what depression and suicidal thoughts look like. Sometimes it doesn't have a look and that is what makes it truly scary.

@christopherhamer9584

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustKelso1993 amen bro. Like I said earlier my best friend showed not 1 sign of depression or that he didn't want to be here anymore. I think about it everyday that maybe I could have helped or save him but I was with him 2 days before just hanging out at my house playing PS4 and chilling. To this day I have guilt that maybe I missed some signs but he showed nothing and was being funny as ever. That phone call was the worst day of my life. His daughter is 8 now and I made a promise to him at his funeral that I'll always keep an eye on her and his wife and at least once a month I call or visit. I just wish this guilt would go away but it's something i have to work on.

@JustKelso1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherhamer9584 I am sorry, my guy. You definitely should not feel guilty, but, I understand that it isn't easy to just make those feelings go away. I would honestly feel guilty too even knowing there was nothing that I could have done. Sending love your way!

A soldier shouldn't come home with $500 and financially struggling, USA needs to take better care of our Soldiers.

@amandacharlebois9295

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. We put trillions of dollars into our defense budget and most of it goes to private contractors and dropping bombs. It’s despicable.

@RG3FC333

3 жыл бұрын

us soldiers shouldn't exist in the firstplace.

@Bethany0420

3 жыл бұрын

@@RG3FC333 😂

@FaithandNova

3 жыл бұрын

@@RG3FC333 every country has soldiers lol

@sosamma090

3 жыл бұрын

US has enough money to send it to other countries though. The country is zooming towards becoming a failed state.

I think it's sad that every family refuses to believe that their loved one would commit suicide, or maybe in this case.. it could be an accident. My coworker was a very happy person at work, talkative, joked around a lot and had plans to return to school, just moved in to a apartment and was looking forward to going back home to visit parents. I was with him the day before he died, no signs whatsoever, but he committed suicide. It happens, even though the family refuses to believe it.

@briancannon3987

2 жыл бұрын

Accident

@y_zass

2 жыл бұрын

It is sad. I don't buy the "Oh we had to separate for us to be together". It sounds like she recently moved out of state with their kids, without him. She downplays that, wonder where she went? Or with who, more importantly.

@y_zass

2 жыл бұрын

This is me right here! People I work with have no CLUE what I'm really like. I've only gotten use to them. I'm an introverted, depressed, socially anxious shell of a human and if I were to off myself all the people I work with would probably be absolutely shocked but the very, very, few people I talk to outside of work probably wouldn't be too shocked.

@pamelaremme38

2 жыл бұрын

I call BS. If someone has PLANS and no outward signs of depression it is either murder or an accident. This is from a counselor. There are many very shady things that happen in the military.

@gordonaliasme1104

2 жыл бұрын

@@briancannon3987 murder

so he threatens him because he didnt pay him for the gun yet and then just "decides" to go over to do laundry the next day? ooook.

@xThinkinqofYou

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. During his interview, he stated he went to go do laundry at West's apartment after a night of drinking sometime around 1:30-2:30am. Sounds suspicious.

@sancho8521

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Shaffer especially a youngster; murderer is getting away

@jamsla2635

3 жыл бұрын

@@xThinkinqofYou pm, not am

@RawrZombieKittens

3 жыл бұрын

@@JosephKulik2016 so you find your friend dead and you sound completely unemotional and monotone on the phone to police? Nah, fuck that, there’s definitely something else going on here. People don’t just get drunk and commit suicide unless they were already thinking of suicide. ‘Friends’ don’t act this emotionless and cold when their friend KILLS THEMSELF AND THEY FIND THEIR DEAD BODY.

@wireflight

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you understand how threats work: Zubich didn't threaten to kill West; if he had, then that would have looked really bad for Zubich. Zubich didn't threaten to kick West's ass; if he had, then that would have looked bad for Zubich. This type of threat is about unlawfully injuring the victim of the threat. Instead, Zubich threatened to report West to the police; you don't go from "I'm gonna call the cops on you" to killing someone, if there's no imminent threat coming from the person soon to be the decedent. Zubich knew West was armed with the handgun, the value of which was the object of the dispute: unless Zubich had been suicidal, Zubich wouldn't have been unarmed when he confronted West in-person, if that's the way this had gone down. However, there's no evidence that there was a gunfight, and there wasn't evidence that either Zubich or West had been in a different sort of physical fight. The explanation from 16:14 seems most reasonable and consistent with the actual evidence.

Dishonour himself by suicide? It’s no dishonest to take your life, it’s an act of desperation thinking only how to end your pain and the ones you left will be better without you once you’re gone for good. There is nothing dishonest about mental health. 😔🙏🏻

@user-ov6bv9cn1o

2 ай бұрын

It is a dishonor, and further, it’s a mortal sin. But then, I’m a Christian.

There’s absolutely no way his hands ended up in that position if he killed him self!

@jessicaellina3878

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.. too posed.

@katherinewilson4985

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing! Wouldn't his arm fall to the side of him not forward in his lap?

@stephaniethomas3770

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@beautifuldisaster139

3 жыл бұрын

in this case no it wouldn’t fall like that w gun perfect too .. but sometimes not this case but sometimes ur body move arm or whatever if u don’t die right away so it may not always fall where u think it would esp if they don’t die right away or muscle spasms or something but this case his arm woulda fell to his side not on waistband like that in middle shoulda been more to side he shot & gun not gonna fall perfect if he actually holding it i mean his hand isn’t even gripping the gun it layin on top of it .. a lot times ur hand will grip it harder after shooting urself .. hope i’m making sense it’s hard for me to explain things sometimes lol 🤷🏻‍♀️ that gun woulda fell in floor not in his lap half on his thumb so yea it was definitely placed like that

@adamboyd1349

3 жыл бұрын

I challenge you to reenact the position he was in then let your body go limp and tell me where your hands fall. Mine fall into my lap

The family is strapped for money and separated and he spends money on a gun and a night out of drinking and a strip club. I feel terrible for the family..but he made some really poor decisions.😞

@bigrich0926

3 жыл бұрын

True, but the guy was still young only 25 years old, he wanted to have some fun

@elizabethgrogan8553

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigrich0926 I agree with you. He received a $7,000 payment from the army. He bought a gun and had drinks with his "friend". He was going to rejoin his family with plenty of money left. Nothing wrong there.

@gillsharpe7603

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely...I'm totally with you on this.....ppl always putting themselves first 🙈

@AvengeTheTRexOfSteel

3 жыл бұрын

He paid off all his bills and then bought a gun and went drinking with what was left.

@sadderthanyou7793

3 жыл бұрын

I also think that this was, in fact, an accident. The Zubich probably just ransacked the apartment after seeing the dead body.

I seriously doubt that if he killed himself and had his head leaned over so that the bullet would end up in the ceiling, that his gun would end up in his lap. A 40 caliber Glock has quite a bit of kick when it fires and I believe that if he had committed suicide, the gun would have flung his hand back and the gun would have landed on the floor somewhere.

@mosessupposes2571

3 жыл бұрын

Very true. His hand and that gun wouldn’t have been neatly placed in his lap like that.

It's not even accidental. An army person knows what a gun can do.

@Orlanzepol123

3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry but that accidental theory was very convincing. He was really drunk which might also explain why he was telling his friend he wasn’t going to pay for the gun. He might’ve been just fucking with him but his friend thought it was for real. Don’t think his friend shot him.

@ashleykhamphaseuth8513

3 жыл бұрын

@@Orlanzepol123 you believe that if this man accidentally shot him self that his hand and gun would have fell perfectly in his lap like that ?

@Orlanzepol123

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashleykhamphaseuth8513 I am not “totally” convinced one way or the other about any of the theories. And his hand landing on his lap gave me pause but out of all the theories I was convinced more by accidental one. The angle of the bullet and him being close to the wall stood out for me. And I think they dried to convict his friend but they felt there wasn’t enough proof.

@rbrowning9617

3 жыл бұрын

@@Orlanzepol123 please, PLEASE,, never serve on a jury or go into law enforcement. Our streets will be full of criminals because you are wishy washy. Your circular thinking prevents you from being any sort of decision maker

@Orlanzepol123

3 жыл бұрын

@ R. Browning. “Wishy washy”? 😂 I’m just not willing to put a man in jail for murder so easily. It could be his hand landed on his lap. Not common but not totally out of the realm of possibility.

🤬He killed that man for his money. Shame Shame Shame. SMH. Greed is a dangerous drug.

@Scarhead_Ed

3 жыл бұрын

The love of money is the root of all evil.

@DarthVaderReturns1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scarhead_Ed i seriously agree with you

@jamellfoster6029

3 жыл бұрын

I think his "friend" may have been on drugs as well...

@bashkillszombies

3 жыл бұрын

SMH, Rokeshia, SMH.

@heatheraucoin5832

3 жыл бұрын

I think he shaved his beard bc of GSR and possibly blood splatter.

Seems to me that he was sleeping, because he was over intoxicated. His "friend" had a key to his apartment. He probably went in there and shot him while he was asleep, and staged the whole thing. Why did no one come up with that theory.

@tootallmccall6040

3 жыл бұрын

That's a pretty good one I must say. He did it!

@tross8863

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, an excellent theory. Probably exactly what happened...

@JeannieLorene

3 жыл бұрын

Now THAT makes sense.

@bethshadid2087

3 жыл бұрын

My question is why no one heard the gun shot? I've lived in apartments and the walls are paper thin 🤷

@kameeI

3 жыл бұрын

@Kev Backwoods hii

With friends like this guy, who needs enemies?? Rest In Peace Robbie...

That's why I never got in a serious relationship when I was in the military. I heard about too many sad outcomes.

@anaisworthy2843

3 жыл бұрын

@Belltown Daisy ‘ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Facts

@FaithandNova

3 жыл бұрын

@Belltown Daisy 😩😩😩😩

@billp4

3 жыл бұрын

This may come as a shock but relationships can have sad outcomes out of the military also.

@reimisia

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how being in a serious relationship relates to this case but aaalright.

@pamelaremme38

2 жыл бұрын

LOTS of nefarious things go on in the United Nations military. Search gold fringes around American flag. Our true rights are our BILL OF RIGHTS under COMMON LAW. NOT maritime/admirality law (law of the water)

So he dozed off and shot himself with his right hand but managed to place his hands in his lap like that before he died??? B u llsh i t!!!

@tiffanyrose5826

3 жыл бұрын

That's the first thing I saw and pointed out ....the way his hands fell......doesn't seem right if he shot himself

@viccrown8188

3 жыл бұрын

18:12 if he’s left-handed, why is he holding that rifle like a right handed shooter? And it’s definitely possible when shooting yourself in the head that your muscle groups tense up, gripped the gun more, and it dropped to your lap. I’m not saying this isn’t suspicious, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

Omg you can tell she is still so in love with him. Heart breaking...

Why do interviewers always have to ask "What do you miss most about... " can't they come up with better, more original questions? 🤦‍♀️

"no signs he was depressed" sometimes there aren't signs . every day is fight for me to stay here. i'm trying my best to hold off until my child is an adult & doing well. nobody would ever know this . i already feel like i'm enough of a burden people knowing about this would make it worse. and when bad things happen to me it takes everything in me not to end it at that moment . I'm not saying this specific situation was or wasn't suicide but just saying , i hate when people say that .

@mandarue5104

3 жыл бұрын

Please know you are worthy of love and happiness. You are not a burden and you deserve to find happiness. Don't give up the fight! There is so much to live for even if you can't see it presently. Seeking help is not a weakness but shows great strength.

@franceswomble8083

3 жыл бұрын

I praying for you to feel better about life. Please get to someone and talk about this depression you are having. One day at a time things can get better.

@DJ-ct6so

2 жыл бұрын

So many people who've read your brave and honest comments are very proud of you, that you're continuing to hang on and fight when everything around you seems so bleak. You are never a burden, there is always someone whose life is made better for knowing you and who wants to love you, sometimes it just takes a while to find those special friends. I hope so much that you find them, and that something life-changingly wonderful happens for you. Take care and stay safe.

@ChevyGirl-1984

2 жыл бұрын

As a person who lost a parent to suicide one month after turning 18, please, don’t ever leave your child, because then, your emotional pain and emotional burden become your child’s. I know this firsthand. You would never want to think of your child considering taking their own life just in the chance that they’ll see you again. Aside from that, your life matters past being a parent. Trust me, I’ve been there, and I understand the pain, pain so deep your chest aches, pain so deep your whole body aches even, the dry heaving, the neglecting care of oneself, I know this, and I’ve lived this. You are here past a reason that you can’t understand. Stay with us!

In my heart I feel it’s accidental myself being someone around firearms I know it happens. Accidental discharges happen with trained professionals that are sober. My thoughts and prayers for his wife and kids.

Nobody said why he bought the gun, I would have thought that when you have gone through money worries that last thing you would do is spend money unnecessarily, unless this is what he intended to use it for, sad for everyone...

@pauladenisecoutinho2203

3 жыл бұрын

I agree totally

@alij6940

3 жыл бұрын

Because he obviously didn't want anyone to know his intentions

@FaithandNova

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't understand the need to buy a gun also with having money issues

So much emotion telling the story but not a tear to be seen.

@TheJoshA

3 жыл бұрын

Never

@lizzyvirgo

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the same thought I have..... why? Like she’s trying sooooo hard but why?? Suspish 😜

@MJ-ji6mv

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not someone who will cry in front of people, no matter the circumstances, so, I don't personally find it suspicious.

@JustKelso1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@MJ-ji6mv Plus Military, they see death, they get used to it. Sadly.

@carabeingblue4016

3 жыл бұрын

@@lizzyvirgo LOL - you must be a Bailey Sarian watcher.

My dad died the same way, had ptsd too from Vietnam. No need to ruin someone else’s life because you can’t accept your loved one killed their self.

@SpartacusErectus

10 ай бұрын

had ptsd from killing innocent people? he deserved it.

@SpartacusErectus

10 ай бұрын

his tree should've ended there...

I could have indicted him myself based solely on his aliby of the text messages. They had enough evidence to convict him without looking that much into the case. He admitted to murder in that conversation about the text messages. He lied and said he didn't remember anything about those conversations but he remembered the "argument" about the "money" situation which was enough motive for his friend to be murdered. Plus, what drunk person goes to another person's house wanting to do laundry especially after such a heated and threatening conversation? Also, I noticed that his friend hugged his pillow with his left arm. Most people sleep or do things with their dominant hand which in this case is his left but the gun was in his right hand laying in a placed position.

@user-gj1me4mf5c

3 жыл бұрын

He went to do the laundry the next day, not on their drunken night out.

@storytimewithtea6385

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c Whether it was the day of them drinking or not. Either way doesn't make sense after that kind of a fight they had. He lied about the text messages which was enough to convict him.

@jamsla2635

3 жыл бұрын

He went the next day to do laundry, not that night. Many argue & get over it...... esp when drunk, guys argue & fight all the time & get over it pretty quickly. Shoot, 1/2 the time they dont even recall the argument. Its not unusual at all. And dude needed to do laundry 🤷🏼‍♀️

She honestly not really crying, just sayinggg

@shaunamichele

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Why is she acting weird?

@luordonez657

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr?!?! That’s what I thought!!

@marlonmalcolm1738

3 жыл бұрын

I saw it But for one to believed that man committed suicide got me distracted 🤦‍♂️

@Mckinley-mick

3 жыл бұрын

it’s sooo extra

@daisy9120

3 жыл бұрын

True,she looks suspicious as hell!

What if Robbie was passed out when his so called “friend” who has a key to his apartment and has very good training in using weapons snuck in to the apartment and shot Robbie while he was so drunk..? Military so called “investigators” don’t have a good record in investigating murder cases so I’m not shocked that they don’t care for their own soldiers who fight for our Country in getting to the truth...so sad to me. Thank you so much Sgt. Robbie West for your services! May you RIP and your family and friends fight for your justice! Sending prayers 🙏🏼 to your family and friends to give them strength in this fight 🙏🏼👼🏼❤️

Hmmmm...the way his hands are laying perfectly in his lap seems suspicious to me? But I’m no expert. And the over explaining on the 911 call is a huge red flag...

A lot of insurance policies don’t pay out If the cause of death is suicide however if they can get the medical Examiner to change cause of death to undetermined or murder the policy can be paid out just saying🤷🏻‍♀️

@kameeI

3 жыл бұрын

i never knew that

@coolstorybro915

3 жыл бұрын

The Army’s life insurance policy (SGLI) covers any type of death. They would face massive heat from the public if they didn’t payout policies for suicide, given the amount of active duty soldiers that commit suicide.

@gaseouschip8957

3 жыл бұрын

Most all pay out for suicide if you've had the policy is 2 years or longer....or at least mine does.

@lindalawton5399

3 жыл бұрын

@@gaseouschip8957 that is correct nationwide, aside from a couple states with only a one year exclusion for suicide.

Hard to immediately call this a suicide, no note, no warnings no reason, it does seem odd especially if he got a bonus and was going back to his family it dosen't make sense.

@himhim3344

2 жыл бұрын

These parents are always swearing up and down that their kid would never commit suicide because there was never any signs of it. Well guess what, sometimes there aren't any signs. I had a friend that committed suicide, he was 25. He had depression when he younger but it was the "be lazy and lose motivation for life kind", not the "life sucks I'm gonna end it all" kind. When he died he was a nurse at a hospital and was taking certifications for a different position. He was doing well and living a normal life. Anyways the family is getting ready to go on vacation. His parents, his younger brother and two of his siblings that are married are coming along with their spouses. The night before they were talking about the vacation plans and what sights they wanna see and activities to do. The next morning when he isn't up yet and his alarm has been going off, his dad goes in his room to wake him up. Except he isn't there. They search the house and find him hanging in the basement with a picture of him and his siblings from when they were kids. No note. No explanation. No signs. Just the picture. His parents too say that there was never any indication that anything was wrong, they never saw this coming. Same with his friends and co workers. Everyone was shocked. At some point that night he got in a dark place mentally and couldn't get out. Sometimes people kill themselves when you least expect it.

@analisa274

2 жыл бұрын

Only thing with note thing is that most suicides never have a note.

I don't think it's suicide or homicide. I think it was an accident. Prayers to the family. I've had a few family members take their life and it's so hard to live with. Your heart hurts EVERYDAY for them.

@tootallmccall6040

3 жыл бұрын

You must be friends with Zubich

“He wouldn’t do that to the kids” Sorry sweetheart but it isn’t always all about the kids When you are suicidal, nothing matters You have to experience it to understand And until you do, you will go on thinking about how cruel and wrong it is for someone to want to take their own life I believe 100% this was an accident, clearly he was very intoxicated and he’s somehow let the gun go off It’s absolutely awful, but it annoys me when people run to Crime Watch Daily because they can’t handle the truth

@bethanyc8347

3 жыл бұрын

I hate it when people say, they weren’t depressed, they would never lull themselves. When I was suicidal, I acted happier than I am now almost overcompensated. But now I may not be a happy but I’m not faking it.

@Angelofloveandhappiness

2 жыл бұрын

Who runs to Crime Watch Daily when they can't handle the truth? You're not making sense

@JD-mm7ur

Жыл бұрын

spot on 👍

This case is definitely bizarre! Sadly, I think it was a freak accident. The only real evidence is of his buddy being shady & stealing anything of monetary value; but there’s a big difference between being an opportunistic jerk vs. a murderer. There’s also no proof he was depressed, or suicidal. It’s all a bizarre, tragically sad accident.

"We had to separate to keep the family together"? What sense does that make?

@taisheramedley9595

2 жыл бұрын

So they could qualify for government assistance. They legally separated but were still married.

@Angelofloveandhappiness

2 жыл бұрын

Probably to get government assistance

And, the Oscar goes to........the wife is a real good actress!!

He admits to committing a “straw purchase” which is a felony. When you agree to buy a gun for someone else, that’s a crime.

So calm, collected and cold hearted. Didn't show any emotion until his guilt started to show.

This is far from a suicide ..or accidental the friend killed him 100 percent hope this family gets the justice they deserve .

No one can shoot themselves in the head, and for their arms to fold up like that with the gun intact!!! Case close. That man is guilty!!! U dnt shoot yourself in the head and fold your arms in front of you holding the same gun. Poor detectives.

the wife kept trying hard to cry, but I only heard the sounds of trying to cry with no tears...anyhow, RIP...

@lyudmyla7726

8 ай бұрын

👍 I thought the same thing.

Thank you for the new video I have watched every single one of them! I get so excited for new ones to come out.I appreciate all the videos and how you do help so many people keep bringing them!

I actually don't think he was murdered. But I don't think it was suicide, just a tragic accident. People really should not be handling guns while intoxicated. However, if it will help the family cope, look into the case again. It never hurts.

@killuminatianonymous5551

3 жыл бұрын

Or ken pointed a gun to his head and say commit suicide or I'll kill you. Kind of like a saw type move. Where at that point, there's the loophole of not pulling the trigger but indirectly causing it.

@M3GPie

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that they only have so many resources so if they keep looking into this case just to make the family feel better then that takes resources away from investigating other cases. I think it should be ruled an accidental death, because I don’t think it was suicide, but maybe. His wife and kids were far away and he was fighting with his friend. It’s not entirely impossible that in that moment he was suicidal.

@pamelaremme38

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he was murdered. It is not hard to get gun residue on someones hands. Maybe they went out shooting just prior? Also his arm would not have just rested on his LAP it would have fell to his side with gun dropping on floor.

@georgiaspyrou473

Жыл бұрын

Targic accident ? 😂😂😂 are serious?? From a SIGNLE GUNSHOT TO THE HEAD ? 😂 pls !

@GenXfrom75

Жыл бұрын

@@georgiaspyrou473 tragic... And single. Yes.

Is that lady missing an eye? Just curious. Even single people can't live on 500 biweekly. Poor guy.

@kevinthomas676

3 жыл бұрын

No that's her eyelid

@user-gj1me4mf5c

3 жыл бұрын

That lady is lying. They make WAY more than that plus they get free medical, free dental, free insurance, free uniforms, free boots, free housing on base and all the free food they can eat at the base mess hall.

@zyphil

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c No, they really don't. This was also in 2011 when benefits were shot for military personnel. I just got out of the service, and I can ASSURE you, that they don't always cover your fees. Families don't even get free food, and if you're married, you don't get free meals at the base mess/chow hall. If you're married, you get your BAS via your check, and you have to pay for meals. You also have to pay for uniforms. Sure you get free health coverage, but you're naive if you think everything is free for military personnel. I can't count on two hands, the amount of times finance had fucked up my pay badly. Getting 30 dollars per paycheck at times, sometimes 3 dollars. Shit's rough, and I can assure you, you have no idea what you're talking about.

@carolynbohannon4602

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c is that wife forcing herself to cry? Weird

@1LuvEinalem3

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c that’s a bullshit lie. They don’t get $500 every two weeks. When on deployment they get separation pay, BAS and more benefits. Yeah this was back in 2011 which you can easily look up their pay which is 2k every two weeks with two years in service I’m sure he had more years in which goes up. There’s no way $500. Don’t want to make assumptions but either he kept money from her or she just didn’t know how to budget. & also she doesn’t seem bother at all. More like she did force her self to cry and show emotions.

The "Friend" & the Wife... 👀 Her fake crying, him finding the dude..

@AF-ib3nl

3 жыл бұрын

do you think they were having an affair?

Maybe not a suicide but likely a accident. Alcohol and guns don't mix well.

"We had to split up, to stay together." Erm. Ok.

@kyleee8

3 жыл бұрын

Actually as sad as it is, A LOT of people legally separate (but stay together) just so the parents/kids qualify for Medicaid/welfare & can get 10xs help they could have before if they’re struggling.

@benjaminbradley4771

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyleee8 you are right.

@irene14munoz

3 жыл бұрын

As a Marine of 12 years yes them splitting up so it can work makes sense!

@floridagurl40

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyleee8 Well with him being military they wouldn’t be needing the Medicaid....... they would have Tricare....

@scallopohare9431

3 жыл бұрын

Why no child support for the children she already had?

As soon as I saw that the gun was still in his hand in the crime photo, I immediately raised suspicions when I suddenly realize that the gun didn't fell off from his hand from the recoil after he apparently committed "suicide"

@SoundsBy80K

2 жыл бұрын

yeah thats why i want so see a test with a dummy.. to see the physical movement after pulling the trigger. that gun must have falling into his lap like a stone.

Yesss! This narrator is my favorite one. On another note; nothing but positive energy and vibes into the universe for Robbie’s family

As soon as she said homicide, his body language changed immediately...smh

@kayleeorjadon9485

3 жыл бұрын

When she said he was suspicious, he crossed his arms and hugged himself. He was trying to protect himself.

I have been a paramedic and an officer for over a decade. Suicide plays by no rules. Just because the guns in his lap doesn’t mean it was placed there. That is determinant on many factors. I’ve been on suicides for the gun flew out of their hand and I’ve been on suicides with a gun we’re still in the hand. It depends on the persons grip strength, the caliber of the gun, and where they shoot themselves. Also, someone’s mood right before they kill themselves often seems “happy”. I have seen cases where there was a video of the person killing themselves, and the family still claimed it as a homicide. Suicide is extremely difficult for families to except and they often refuse to except it. And often people who commit a suicide seem to be someone that would “never do something like that” Fun fact, most suicides are not accompanied by a suicide note. If the man wanted his gun back it would be a lot easier just to go over there and take it… Why would he go through all the trouble to get his gun, shoot his friend and leave without his gun. Motives are key in a lot of cases...

@yellowdayz1800

2 жыл бұрын

Grip strength makes sense.

@melluques8475

Жыл бұрын

Planed suicide is different to impulsive ones. That was my father’s case, after getting drunk on my brother’s graduation from uni. He had bad news about my grandfather (93) and that night he hanged himself. Alcohol, depression… are a bad combination. 😔

@88osprey

Жыл бұрын

@@melluques8475 true and I’m sorry for your loss. I just had a case where a man and his longtime girlfriend had an argument over a game (yes… a game!!). So, to “show her”, he got his gun and shots himself in front of her… poor woman. I’m sure she suffered abuse from him for years and will for years to come with that image in her head.

Accidentally killed himself actually sounds legit

@JeannieLorene

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm kind of torn on that too. How would the "friend" use a pillow and shoot him on the right side when there wasn't much room on his right side?, plus at that angle?. The "friend" seems shady as heck tho. What if in a drunken stooper, the "friend" dared him to take all the bullets out and play a kind of Russian roulette thing?...I know it's a stretch... but Ugh. I hate this for his family. I pray they find some kind of peace.

@JeannieLorene

3 жыл бұрын

OH! And I hate alcohol too!

@JeannieLorene

3 жыл бұрын

I just read through a ton of comments. Maybe Robbie was passed out and the guy shot him while he was out cold.

@George-cr6jq

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeannieLorene shoot him with robbie hands? and what is the motive?

@amberugur6476

3 жыл бұрын

He was super drunk and accidentally shot Himself. In all honesty... It's the only theory that makes sense. Plus, if Home Dude killed Him, why would He come back over with His laundry to "discover" his dead friend? Lol I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the Person I killed.

We lived in Phenix City when my husband was stationed at Fort Benning. We got out in March of 2011. Thankfully! He served THREE year plus deployments to Iraq in 6 years. It was rough.

He uses his hands when he lies. He twittles his thumbs, that’s a nervous tell. Also he starts off every lie with “I believe” because he doesn’t actually believe, but is trying to convince himself

@reigndeer1573

3 жыл бұрын

@Cozy Dorian the body language experts on KZread 😂

@alij6940

3 жыл бұрын

Ehhh maybe

@tayy7299

3 жыл бұрын

@@reigndeer1573 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I was in the military for more than 20 years, and suicides happen. More than half, no one seen coming. And let me tell you, i spent more time with the people i worked with than with my family. It isn’t unusual for people to get super drunk, think about their life and then end it. As i saw people stated he was a left handed shooter, the pics of him with a rifle show him holding the rifle as a right handed shooter. Getting drunk after a bonus, not unusual for military guys, being a geographical bachelor (wife took the kids, he had to move back into the barracks and will get treated like he is in daycare as an adult by his command, is enough for any soldier to want to think about suicide). 3 kids of his own from a prior marriage in his custody until the wife took all 6 back to michigan, that is a reason also. Asking a friend to buy the pistol, not wanting to pay him, that actually might have been the first signs, he had planned this all along and kept it silent. 7K isn’t a big bonus and would probably not even caught him up on his debts. The family no understanding why a grand jury was convened is silly. This is a military town, that supports Ft Benning. Every time a soldier commits suicide, a grand jury is probably convened as a way to cover the local authorities, as an extra step to ensure more than a second set of eyes have seen all the present evidence to rule out homicide. Suicides are way more common in the military and among veterans, 22 a day is around the current norm. 22 people a day commit suicide. Here is something TCD didn’t mention. IF the family can get the death ruled other than a suicide, even and accidental shooting, the widow can get monetary benefits. His SGLI would be between 200-400K depending on his election. Once the death is ruled a suicide, the SGLI is not paid as the service member permanently opted out of the insurance program. Also the wife would not be entitled to survivors benefits of his salary until his projected ETS (when his contract would have ended) and being he just re-enlisted, that would add up to a substantial amount. The family, i am sure they mis him, but the reason for not accepting the death as a suicide is purely money. She already left him, with the kids, what did she think would happen when he realized, he is back in the barracks, alone, drunk, and purposely planned a trip to buy a weapon.

@PokeMaster03

2 жыл бұрын

She didn't left him dude

@johannas.l.brushane2518

2 жыл бұрын

@@PokeMaster03 She says so but say they separated just for financial reasons. It maybe was financial reasons she claim they were together and therefore needing something other than a suicide. She had moved home to another state so she can not for sure be certain on whether he was suicidal or not. Alcohol is not the kind of drug that guarantee what state of mind ends up, you could be giddy and all happy and later on get angry, sad or whatever. Alcohol is probably the worst drug to take if having ever so slight mental health problems.

When the 911 caller gives an alibi or says a person committed suicide (rather than asking for help) I get suspicious of the caller.

This is one of the drawbacks of owning/handling/messing around with guns. You just don’t know what might happen, or who might use it against you. He DEFINITELY shouldn’t have been handling it when he was drunk. I’d like to know if they dusted the gun for prints, and they absolutely should have tested that friend of his for gunshot residue. I feel for the family. It’s not right that soldiers are paid so little.

Always a dead giveaway for me when people "cry" but not a tear is shed. The wife does this ... all emotion in the voice but no tears.

@1stAmendmentorDie1776

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he had a life insurance policy.

@susannadekkeractress

2 жыл бұрын

She also gave me an icky feeling. Couldn't place it.

@1stAmendmentorDie1776

2 жыл бұрын

Amber heard hahaha

Ken sounds a little too calm to me for just finding his friend dead as a result of committing suicide...but after watching his interview with lady cop, he seems genuine to me. I’m glad my job isn’t to determine if he is guilty or innocent. People do strange things under the influence.

@mylxiong08

3 жыл бұрын

Good thing you are not a detective. He is insincere and evading in the interview but that's not why, he is guilty. He is guilty based on forensic evidences.

@hdubya692

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylxiong08 dummy. They just said forensics pointed to a suicide or potential accident.

@George-cr6jq

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylxiong08 What forensic evidences do you have that show this was a murder not a suicide/accident?

The friend sounded calm after finding his friend dead

everything I know about gun safety had me nervous when that guy pulled the trigger on that glock to show how it would fire without the magazine while he pointed it at his own head. Even if you've checked a firearm beforehand it's just something I was taught not to do.

@mandarue5104

3 жыл бұрын

He made me really nervous too!

@franceswomble8083

3 жыл бұрын

I know right it didn't look good to me also.

@MissRiceLyn

2 жыл бұрын

It got my heart racing lol

@jessicafriede1072

2 жыл бұрын

OMG same I gasped...

@yellowdayz1800

2 жыл бұрын

It gave me the creeps too!

The poor wife and family sending so much love and hugs and happiness 💗

Not trying to sound mean or heartless but she sounds so dramatic and fake with her grief idk “Everyone grieves different” tho right 😒

@everwhat013

3 жыл бұрын

she's making the right sounds, but she's not producing any tears. weren't they separated? she's just enjoying the attention now. i'll be mean.

@familyfirst3380

3 жыл бұрын

What if she plotted this.. just to get the money

@jamiemichael4190

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly and I never seen the first year.

@tootallmccall6040

3 жыл бұрын

Such a contradicting comment

I hate when families can't accept what the evidence is telling them.

If your “Friend” ends their life... you wouldn’t be that calm. You would be uncontrollable. Is there any doubt after listening to that 911 call?

They definitely need to question Kenneth Zubick again (reminds me of Chris Watts in one of those photos). So many things have already been stated, (laundry lie and "just" committed suicide on 911 call), but here's a few I did not see: 1. The pistol itself. I thought at first the slide didn't lock after the round was fired, but had to watch a few times and then saw the jam (almost like a stove pipe). You can see it at 17:57 pretty well. So had to go searching on jams and turns out some Glocks have that problem when using a "limp wrist" (see the Tire Iron Channel limp wristing various handguns). It can also happen if the case hits something on the way out when trying to eject. There are a few other reasons, but this was a new gun. Limp wrist would not work, because he was supposedly leaning on it, so had to have a firm grip, plus it's still in his hand. I personally think this where the pillow comes into play, just not how the expert is saying. I'm thinking the gun was sandwiched by the pillow, not put in between the gun and the body. This would create the jam, since the pillow is preventing the case from ejecting. I think they need to check if that jammed case has an indent/scuff on the side of it, in case the gun was actually fired with the clip in, then after was removed and placed on the table. The loose rounds in his hands as well. So, puts hand on gun sandwiched in between the pillow, rests head on the gun creating the indent, fires. -- Who knows when he actually arrived to his "friend's" house, shoot, he could have even went over there and acted like everything was cool and waited for him to pass out. As far as the table in the way, plenty of time to move it. They never mention stippling either. 2. During the questioning after he's asked about remembering the text (at about 8:31) "Why are you being a jealous ****** he shakes his head and starts clearing his throat. At 9:06 after she reads the part about "Give me my property back, it's not yours. Okay, I'll come and get it." Then boom, watch his involuntary flinch. Knows he messed up. Still wondering why the "comment about the bank account was taken as a threat, but he seems to react to that as well (although the video may be cropped). At 9:50 he's asked how many times did you text him this morning ... "Two or three times ma'am" in odd voice. His comment "Now look at you. You're ******* stupid, the **** you thinking." is the truth, but in a different way. Just my observations ... they also need to check his bank account for deposits around that time as well. I forgot to ask one thing ... at 1700, is that a piece of white cloth around the barrel? Right side, center.

@soldiergirl20

3 жыл бұрын

Great observation 👍.

The private investigator is not that bright every responsible gun owner knows you always treat a firearm like its loaded even if you know its not. He puts it up to his head and pull the trigger.

@rachelminneapolis

3 жыл бұрын

DUDE thank you. I was looking for this comment and I found my person lol WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? He just lost all credibility... (18:00)

@sarcasticallyrearranged

3 жыл бұрын

The PI gets paid as long as he pretends that it wasn't a suicide so he is going to keep lying to the family.

@rachelminneapolis

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarcasticallyrearranged the private investigator were talking about said he thinks Robert shot himself.

That’s the first time I’ve seen Jason tear up listening to someone speak about their loved one. He truly cares.

Guilty as F@#k!!! -Too calm on the initial 911 call -Conveniently forgot to tell the cops about the argument they had over the gun thru texts -refused to take the lie detector test -looked like he didn’t even care during police questioning except with a fake ass boo-hoo at the end -He wound up with the PlayStation which the wife said he’d never loan out -$400 missing -Pillow missing, the mother said he always used 2 because of his bad neck -Refusing to give any input to this program thru email, phone, or to be interviewed -My opinion is this piece of SH@T is getting away with murder and I hope this family gets their due justice! I just hate to see nice people getting screwed over! My prayers are with this soldiers family! God bless ya’ll!

@pamelaremme38

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%! His arm would NOT have fell into his lap either. It would have dropped to his side with gun on floor. A suicidal person does NOT make future PLANS.

@nastybigJim

2 жыл бұрын

@@pamelaremme38 did you even watch the full video the expert determined it was an accident, the family is delusional and can't accept it.

@pamelaremme38

2 жыл бұрын

@@nastybigJim Sorry dude....I don't believe the Freemason "experts." Family and friends know best. With the exception of this so called "friend" who the first thing out of her mouth was....DID SHE DO IT HERSELF?.

Crying ...yet no tears are coming out!

@TN-kz2ox

3 жыл бұрын

Well, there actually are. Take a beter look before question someone's grieve. You can clearly see tears on her left cheek, to us viewers shown as the right cheek.

@ln9447

3 жыл бұрын

@@TN-kz2ox umm who questioned her grief??I said what I said !!!I didn't ask for your opinion either

I do admit, this is a very very strange one. I really don't know what to think.

POV: you watched one crime vid and now your addicted.

@macdiggitty

3 жыл бұрын

Ha funny POV I watch tik tok too hahahsga

@kathyhead1928

3 жыл бұрын

ME

Isn't fake crying is a sign of guilt...

@brandyrichard6001

3 жыл бұрын

In my book. Crocodile tears Are a sign of guilt. Uuugh.

@bonnemoms5413

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you've cried so much that you literally run out of tears.

@EYE_GOTCHA

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonnemoms5413 Not if your beloved spouse has been murdered, IMO.

@Michellee970

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandyrichard6001 Also a sign of guilt.

@Michellee970

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonnemoms5413 I respectfully disagree.

i hope im never a suspect in a murder case bc i never know the time lmao.

@melkhalifa6650

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao deadass and my memory is terrible

Am I the only one who noticed his wife was crying but didn’t shed a tear? Suspicious

@rochelburch39

3 жыл бұрын

Noticed the same 🤔

@reginagilby1101

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely noticed that

@eyang7

3 жыл бұрын

R u suggesting she's cheating with the friend? 😅

@picklep9812

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah!

Couldnt they check with Playstation to see the time and day it logged in from Zubichs house?

@ktcooki276

3 жыл бұрын

Yeeesss!!! Clever! X

The theory from that investigator loses itself because of where the gun was found at the end. If he was leaning on it like he described and a chambered round went off, then he would have dropped the gun and it would be on the floor on that right side of the chair. Along with the arm hanging to the outside of the chair. Not in his lap, how would his hand and arm discharge a round and then end up in front of his body?

@endofquoterepeattheline7516

3 жыл бұрын

*loses

What an amazing loving wife this poor soldier had. I’m sure their kids were just as amazing. Such a loss. Such a tragedy. God bless them

@johannas.l.brushane2518

2 жыл бұрын

However, isn't it so that glancing upwards with halfclosed eyes is how people like Susan Smith cries while people filled with strong emotions when talking about something usually glance slightly downwards to the right?

@virg0_lem0nade

10 ай бұрын

@@johannas.l.brushane2518--- lmfao, no.

I hate how you guys frame, refusing to take a polygraph as an admission of guilt. They're not , there's a reason you can't present it as evidence at trial. They're unreliable and if you're simply nervous it can show deception and make you a suspect even if you had nothing to do with the crime. Plus anyone really a sociopath would easily pass a polygraph, either by keeping their heart rate low or just by messing up the baseline questions, so when they lie the machine reads as truth.

@GiDD504

3 жыл бұрын

Yup.

@bebzon8941

3 жыл бұрын

@@davids5006 No you are wrong in this case. Lie detectors sometimes can not detect guilty person but they DON'T GIVE false positives.

@bebzon8941

3 жыл бұрын

Not true lie detector won't make you a suspect. Some people can pass - that's true. If you are a psychopath you dont need to "keep heart low". But if you are not guilty you don't need to be afraid as lie detectors don't give false positives

@RH-tv9hk

2 жыл бұрын

@@bebzon8941 yes they absolutely give false positives. I've heard many stories where guilty people passed and innocent people failed. It's unsettling to think of the false results that have never been discovered

Accidental as the Dr. described.

Where’s the tears ma’am. Sus

Teresa is EXTREMELY UNBELIEVABLE in her telling of her story.

@reginagilby1101

3 жыл бұрын

Crocodile tears

@pistolvixens

3 жыл бұрын

She was in another state, and did you watch the text exchange between him and the neighbor? Are you dumb? 🤦🏼‍♀️

@johannas.l.brushane2518

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she reminded me of Susan Smith when crying glancing up to God under halfclosed eyes while subconciously peoples eye tend to go downward, right, when talking about something very emotional.

I think it's an accidental suicide. Very sad. But sh1t happens! Moral of the story ~ don't "treat" yourself to a weapon -- go out for a nice meal or something!

The wife is a hypocrite. Not a single tear.

@sheilamartin9258

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too.

This story is so sad and extremely heartbreaking. I am sad too about the money situation My husband did several tours in Iraq, and while he was overseas that money was tax-free and those were some of the BEST checks we EVERY had while he served. The money was so good that guys were turning around and volunteering to go back over for the cash. Also, as a lower-ranking soldier with a lot of kids it's easy to qualify for WIC and SNAP, Grants through AER, etc. Now, once you come back and they start to snatch taxes out of a check or two once your stateside is where you can find yourself screwed if you're not careful.

@Kathy-kr1sv

Жыл бұрын

It's dreadful to hear how they are treated My dad was away 6 years (from New Zealand ) in WW2 promise of low interest loan for home on return and then after surviving that ordeal. No deal It sucks

@martinaosullivan1622

Жыл бұрын

Very sad going to war not noing if u survive and get shit money for all u have been through shame on government rip Robbie

Not one tear come out of the wife’s eyes.

@sarahlbeeney1920

Жыл бұрын

Watch it again …you might just see them this time…

Families and police always want someone to blame a death on and in this case there really isn't anybody to blame. They want a clean cut answer and punishment and you can't always get that. We learned that when my brother killed himself with his ex-girlfriend. My mother wanted to believe so badly that she did it to him and then did it to herself but there was nothing to show that.

@lindapalmer870

9 ай бұрын

Uk

Zubich is absolutely guilty‼️💯 his interview was absolutely telling‼️🤬😡

its scary how many people actually get away with murder due to lack of evidence..shame!

My bet, the "friend" was irate about the guy not responding to his request & his temper got the best of him, so he used the extra key to let himself in the other apartment. He then sees the guy crashed out & uses that easy opportunity to murder him. The positioning of that man's hands looks more like he was shot while sleeping, and the placement of that gun appears as though someone just lightly tucked it in his hand.

Sadly sometimes alcohol can make ppl go into their feelings way too much. So while he may not have been speaking of suicide while sober maybe with enough alcohol he had a gun he owed money for May his family be blessed and truth prevail

It's obvious that this was a tragic accident. I would never take a poly either, and I never remember the time. Also I've seen dead bodies before, people I've known, my family. My heart was racing a bit, but I talked completely calm, did you want us to freak out, crying and screaming about what we just found? There's no right way to act, during the situation. Everyone is trying to say the friend didn't show enough emotion, well neither did I going by what they're saying, guess I killed my family member then. 🤦🏻‍♀️ So, none of those mean anything. This friend didn't kill him, it just doesn't make sense. Everyone is saying he wasn't grabbing the gun hard enough like it was just placed there, which is a lie. He's grabbing it so hard there's blood pooling in his fingertips, doesn't make sense if the friend killed him, he would have had to kill him what laying down to make the bullet in the ceiling, with the victims own hands? Also with the victims gun? Did he break in when he was sleeping and search around for the gun then kill him with his own hands? Yes GSR could be on his hands, IF he was trying to fight for the gun, which judging by the scene doesn't make sense. So they're fighting for the gun with him laying on the floor in that tiny space by the wall, and while the victim is kinda hunched over? No. A lot of people aren't thinking about all this, and just focusing on he's not showing enough emotion on the 911 call. Also, I wouldn't let my kid touch my PlayStations, but I'd let my best friend borrow it, so that doesn't make sense, perhaps the friend did rob him afterwards, but he didn't kill him. It's an accident, I feel bad for the family but that's what happened. Perhaps he thought the friend was going to come over in his drunken state because of the argument, and was holding the gun to his own head leaning on it a bit and just waiting, and the accident happened. I've seen people do that before, leaning on the barrel a bit.

Most of the people in the military I know aren't struggling they are actually doing well especially the ones with families. I'm confused.

@jewels3596

3 жыл бұрын

What they get paid is based on their rank and time in service. He might have also been heavily in debt so their paychecks might not have gone so far. I agree tho...most military families I know are doing well financially...at least for the past 3-4 years.

@jeffwalters8180

3 жыл бұрын

I was active duty for 12 years, the wife's $500 statement made zero sense. He was pulling down close to 5K a month with 5 dependents, I'd say look at the wife if there was a life insurance policy.

@markmullin4246

3 жыл бұрын

Lotta ppl in military with family are actually struggling! I know several soldiers, that are in that situation.

@laceyelizabeth816

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffwalters8180 yeah the wife gave me a weird vibe. I didn't believe all of her emotions.

@TheLizaMae

3 жыл бұрын

pay for E-5 with dependent is about 1314. At least in NC. Assuming he has quite a bit time in service he is only bringing in about 2,628-3,000 a month for 6 people. He very well could have been struggling. I’m currently in the army, and know many people struggling with many kids, a lot of times moms stay at home full time because what they would be making would be used in child care costs.

There's no way he could only give his family 500 every 2 weeks from over seas. The moment you get your deployment papers you get an increase in pay for being deployed. Back when I was in it was almost twice your regular pay.

@dakotalilly

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I stopped the video to see if someone else heard that also. Separation and hazard duty pay is over $500 even for an E5. Not to mention his money would have been tax free. He had to of been into some shady stuff.

@tymom9313

2 жыл бұрын

The $500 every 2 weeks was only a portion of his pay? Her fake dry tears

My heart breaks for the Wife and Mother

@bluelife1503

3 жыл бұрын

Idk she looks like she's faking the whole crying part. Not a single tear

@carolinscott204

3 жыл бұрын

My heart breaks for the kids to!

@Eustify

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluelife1503 Right?! I was looking for someone else to mention this. I mean I found it really freaking weird and if you also notice she seems to be smiling too much. Like when asked if she thinks that guy killed him, she says yes while smiling? SO weird.

Im a righthanded shooter but would hold the gun in my left while removing the magazine... i think he did the oppsite and fell asleep with gun in his right hand and accidentaly shot himself... hes "friend" found him and realized he wouldnt get his money for the gun and stole the PS and 400 dollars to make up for his losses... An asshole but not a murderer! (thats why he dont want to take the polygraph!) Well thats my theory...

@Vixxing21

3 жыл бұрын

@Brix Broox Much speaks against it, if he used a pillow there would be feathers and debris inside his skull and no powder burn in the temple, in almost ALL cases a perputrator would send loads of fake SMS- to stablish an alibi like "Oh, im very worried about you if you do not answer soon im coming over!" ETC he had no contact from 12:30 both where drunk he just fell asleep drunk and then stumbled upon the scene and stole the items...

@Vixxing21

3 жыл бұрын

Also there would be his DNA and fingerprints on the bullets inside the magazine cops GURANTEED to check that and why would he take out the clip after the murder and put it on the table? Makes no sense at all...

@julieutter7746

3 жыл бұрын

Never thought about that! Great catch! Could absolutely be what happened.

@annalouis4915

3 жыл бұрын

That makes no sense. I’m sure if he was innocent then he would have told them that he had taken bits rather then risk life imprisonment

@Vixxing21

3 жыл бұрын

@@annalouis4915 Maybe he did, but when a "perp" changes his story 10 times noone beleives him...

This poor family, it is clearly a murder in my opinion.

@killuminatianonymous5551

3 жыл бұрын

I think what happened was Ken went over there and tried to intimidate him with his own gun and shot him. And staged the suicide. Or they were both drunk and Ken pointed a gun and said I will kill you and he said do it. Or possibly it was a suicide by force. Where he made the guy kill himself. Realistically he was shit sleeping. With being that drunk he probably passed out, came over to talk shit and killed him just to make it look like a suicide. The clip was out on the table though, so how could he kill himself and unload the clip?

@anapprenticeforlife4116

3 жыл бұрын

@@killuminatianonymous5551 He could have thought it was empty by taking out the clip, forgetting about the round in the chamber? He was extremely drunk. However other evidence is highly suspicious.