Corvega Factory should be renamed to The Digital Foundry.

@3ofSpades

Ай бұрын

It should be renamed to HoH SiS foundation repair. Because there is nobody better to get the JoJ.

@vgnvideogameninja2930

Ай бұрын

@@3ofSpades That doesn't even make sense

@dnakatomiuk

Ай бұрын

I was playing last night and went there for the bobblehead at the top and boy you could see some lag and poor distance drawing. I'm going to see how it runs on my PC but that's 1080p so probably better than the 4k which my system can't

@VividMac101

Ай бұрын

@@3ofSpades because when you need foundation repair, you want foundation repair and you want to save a lot of money right? You want someone that cares more about the JoJ than anything else. Customers even say they would do it all over again.

@VampireNoblesse

Ай бұрын

truth is, Corvega Factory (& downtown Boston) are not the real stress test areas.., the real ones are in the "outer wastland, between big areas" (+ lots trees or other structures).., that's where the game reay gets in its knees and stutters & freezes

I wonder how many hours Tom has spent at Corvega.

@Zastrutzki

Ай бұрын

And it doesn't even look visually striking. It's just "a lot" and makes the game look even more dated.

@patrickhewitt7899

Ай бұрын

He lives there. What you don't see is his apartment behind his character.

AND they took away the ability to swap modes in-game via the Pause menu. Tom had to do all of this testing via the Main Menu, loading and quitting to try each mode.

@jakedizzle

Ай бұрын

To be fair it loads quick. Would be better if the game reset and on its own though.

Not hitting max pc settings on a game that looked dated when it 1st came out is kinda tragic tbh

@OhWell914

Ай бұрын

Classic Bethesda optimization

@Burythelie

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous. Bethesda absolutely dropped the ball on this. 30 fps setting for a 10 year old game is an insult.

@EternalNightingale

Ай бұрын

they’ll update the game again when the ps5 pro comes out and then it’ll reach PC settings probably…

@fireshorts5789

Ай бұрын

on top of that my fps are capped at 48 on my 144hz screen on PC and overriding it in the .ini either made it stay the same or lowered it to 40. fail.

@PumpedSmartass

Ай бұрын

Well yeah, but they can’t rewrite the engine in a performance update …

As much as updating this old game sucks for all the mod breaking, I'm glad to see another publisher give both a 40fps mode and trust in VRR for a 60fps high visuals mode. We were all told to go buy 120hz vrr displays for this generation, its about time mandatory 30fps is left in the past where it belongs.

@raven80wolfx2

Ай бұрын

Lol, just wait for games to come out. If you actually have games pushing the hardware, 30 fps will be the cap. This generation is so slow that the few games that run at 30 only are the more demanding games. Meanwhile, a 2016 game is struggling to run at 4k without a scaler. It's cool to have options, but these consoles are hitting a wall. You will need ps5 pro, but there will be games that run at 30 fps. You can quote me on this.

@user-ck7ny8ek2o

Ай бұрын

40 should be the new 30 for games that struggle at 60

@davidalvarado9957

Ай бұрын

Considering 60 works so well why would you ever go down to 40? Definitely not worth mod breaking at all.

@user-ck7ny8ek2o

Ай бұрын

@@davidalvarado9957 because on 40fps you get a locked 4K resolution and not a dynamic 4K, mods might work better on console but for me there's far too many conflicting issues on PC to make it worth it hence why in my opinion I believe 40fps is a good middle ground, yeah it ain't no 60 but my eyes can get used to the feeling of it much more than 30.

@davidalvarado9957

Ай бұрын

@user-ck7ny8ek2o you'd barely notice the resolution difference in actual gameplay so 60 would be better. Framerate > resolution always.

They really just said fuck it and gave everyone all the options rather than fine tuning any mode.

Watching a DF video of a game I bought 9 years ago. Not even a DF Retro video either. 😂

@SpongeBob.Ripped

Ай бұрын

They are milking Fallout 4 as hard as possible just like Skyrim

@PGVladimirovich

Ай бұрын

​@@SpongeBob.Rippedtoo bad they won't be able to do that with Starfield 😂 Ahhhhh, who am I kidding. Won't stop them from trying.

@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926

Ай бұрын

@@PGVladimirovich Executive bonuses don't grow on trees

@dankswank9088

Ай бұрын

Well, it does have to be 10 years old to technically count as retro to DF

@mrsupergt1

Ай бұрын

No they grow out of the graves made up of fired employees and the hard work their corpse's leave behind....​@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926

I wish they would have have fixed some bugs and performance issues on pc. You can still softlock a couple of quests, weapon debris still crashes the game, bugs everywhere. Kind of ridiculous

@lurkingsoldi2107

Ай бұрын

Mods everywhere too

Hope they fix the stutters when you enter a new area and VATS being bugged. A bump of storage space for mods would be good too.

@Door_Into_Summer

Ай бұрын

I think PS is still locked to in game assets only for mods too

@infinitysynthesis

Ай бұрын

@@Door_Into_Summer Yeah that sucks. I'm on the Series X. Amazing mods but only 2gb of storage. Skyrim has 5gb and i wish they would add more to F4.

@thebaffman4898

Ай бұрын

The stutters when you enter a new area are unfortunately part of the engine. They've been there since Morrowind, they are still present in Starfield. You can only hope to reduce them by brute forcing with powerful hardware.

@infinitysynthesis

Ай бұрын

@@thebaffman4898 I never had them before the update though. Same with Skyrim. I know MW and Oblivion had them as a loading popup would show on screen. I just don't remember noticing them in F4 before the update.

@thebaffman4898

Ай бұрын

@@infinitysynthesis I don't know, I'm still playing the old gen version and it's full of stutters especially in downtown Boston. Also in other dense areas with a lot of buildings.

You should also have talked about PC version. It is incredible game FPS are still tied to physics. Weapon debris still crashes the game when enabled. Loading times are incredibly high sometimes. Not even the bare minimum has been fixed.

@officialdcshepard

Ай бұрын

I’m betting Alex will in a separate video. Looking forward to that since I’m interested in running the Game Pass version on my Steam Deck via Windows 🪟 dual boot 🥾ing.

@thebaffman4898

Ай бұрын

Regarding loading times on PC, there is a mod that disables the FPS cap during loading screens, incredibly it makes the game load a lot faster.

@brandon_nope

Ай бұрын

they discussed this in a DF Direct

@onelifenotenough

Ай бұрын

@@thebaffman4898actually, there are mods that fix all of the mentioned problems: one mod that unties game physics from fps and uncaps the fps during loadings, another mod(made by the same author btw) which fixes the weapon debris crash(it makes the debris to not have collisions, so it’s not perfect but the game at least works), also there’s a mod that decreases the amount of stutters during running, and the unofficial patch which fixes a lot of things throughout the game

@__G___

Ай бұрын

Didn't ask

All those frame drops, especially around downtown boston are more than likely down to the engine rather than the systems themselves. Even on high end hardware on PC's there are drops around downtown.

@thebaffman4898

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's because the engine is so outdated it barely uses multi core CPUs.

@shimigami92dk

Ай бұрын

@@thebaffman4898 it's easy to say and it's probably would be a lot of work but I feel like they're really should do a proper Next Generation by porting Fallout 4 to the starfield engine

@infinitysynthesis

Ай бұрын

@@shimigami92dk Creation Engine 2

@midnitesnac

Ай бұрын

It’s the shadow draw distance. You can crank all settings up, but soon as the shadow distance is passed the medium setting it starts to drop. I believe there’s just too many objects using shadows including items that are not present on screen.. Consoles definitely have that on the lowest settings and medium quality shadows. With that said I believe Bethesda knows why the game performance is shit, but the general public doesn’t so they are keeping quiet.

@devinmurray5280

Ай бұрын

There were lots of mods to greatly fix that on PC

even with the update it's crazy it can't run 4K 60FPS fluid...

@AzaiaMonota

Ай бұрын

Well you are essentially running a 2015 game on 2018 level hardware so it's not that crazy

@Aragorn7884

Ай бұрын

@@AzaiaMonota ...but the game debuted in 2015, it wasn't developed in 2015.

@lightechoes

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Aragorn7884 Irrelevant to performance.

@RubberCudder

Ай бұрын

Fr… The game is so old… Sad…

@reynutz

Ай бұрын

@@AzaiaMonota Yes it is, that makes it worse lmao... My PC was okay in 2019 and I can run this game at 90fps+ in 4K today. (Should lock it to 60 or it runs too fast but still)

This is a nice development. Since they let you freely choose the framerate target, would be nice if a framerate counter was also included, so that you can see if you are hitting the target or if you should switch to a different one.

Thanks so much for the continued review of this patch Tom! You rock! 🙏

It should be noted that running at 1440p on Visuals/60 on PS5 is still the way to go for balance between visuals and stability. When the patch came out, my last save was at Diamond City at night with rain. I had very noticeable drops loading that save in 4K/60/Visuals mode right away, but when I closed the game and reset my PS5 resolution back to 1440p and selected Visuals/60 again.. the drops were gone.

What I'd really like to know is if the 40 fps quality mode on PS5 is any different to the prior patch. I know they address it is "the best way to hide hitches" which makes it sound worse, when in the written article for the prior patch they noted that it ran near flawlessly.

I'm so glad they added the freedom to choose the graphics and frame rate target on console even if it isn't perfect now this will greatly benefit the game in the future on better hardware

@shakengandulf

Ай бұрын

PS5 Pro will be interesting till xbox releases something.

I think it’s just sad to call this next gen without something as small as a fov slider or even brightness settings

5:19 This shot reminds me of Fallout 1 and 2 🥲

did they fix the issues with creators club items?

Wow that was fast. Thanks for the quick upload thomas!

Didn’t Bethesda tell us the XBox version was working as intended before? Lol

@dystopiawanderer

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I shouldn't be surprised by companies blatantly lying but it upsets me a bit more than it should. I'd like to see an apology from Bethesda, not that it's going to happen.

@UncleJemima

Ай бұрын

never trust Bethesda simple as

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

yes because they have no idea what they are doing

@VxHokage007

Ай бұрын

Standard bethesda bs

@solid_justice5855

Ай бұрын

I also remember alot of Xbox fanboys claim they did not see any difference between the series X and PS 5 version. That DF was lying

I've noticed on series X the covega factory has the same LOD as PS5 if you come to the factory from the opposite side to the super-duper mart however if coming from the Lexington area/ super mart area it does have the ultra LOD as seen in the video could this be the issue?

Good vid, but it would be good to include more commentary on how VRR improves the drops.

One thing they desperately need to add is deadzone/aim acceleration sliders. Luckily I have a Dualsense Edge, so I've been able to mess with the right stick curve, but it's still not ideal. Fallout 4 has one of the biggest deadzones I've ever encountered.

@Anna_Rae

Ай бұрын

Not on console unfortunately, but one cool thing on PC is Steam Input's "anti deadzone". It does an awesome job at counteracting large deadzones forced by the developer 💕

@dave93x

Ай бұрын

@@Anna_Rae there are Xbox mods that fix the aiming, but need someone to do it for PlayStation. Should be a standard in all games to be honest, though. I may end up buying an Xbox copy.

On PS5, using VATS in the 60fps visuals mode is an interesting experience. It's a slide show in many instances. It's completely playable, but I often fear the game is about to crash as it starts lurching to a crawl.

@JLudd

Ай бұрын

Same for me, it doesn’t have this issue in the visual 40fps interestingly or any other mode for that matter.

@chalk-one

Ай бұрын

@JLudd in the 40fps mode, do the VATS UI and target selection indicators disappear in heated battles? When using the 60fps setting I'm seeing that quite often, along with characters, lighting, and backgrounds flickering in and out of existence.

I’ve been playing on visual @ 60 fps with ps5 set to 1440p resolution. You get about the same picture quality but a seemingly better draw distance and not too many fps drops that I’ve noticed so far but I have explored the middle/southern part of the map too much yet.

After the Patch, the game running perfectly in Performance 60Fps mode and stunning graphics in Visuals(4K) 40Fps mode on my Xbox Series X 💪 I understand for a 9 years old game it's difficult to bring a native 4k with 60Fps,but it's working great even with those 40Fps with gorgeous graphics on Visuals (native 4K) ❤️👍 Great job Bethesda, you finally fixed the bug on Xbox Series X 🥂

im playing on series s with visuals+60 fps and it runs really good, havent felt any huge stuttering either

At 3:38 , the PS5 footage is missing LODs, objects, and details in the middle section, and the terrain appears to be present at a lower poly-count. The blue car in the distance, the truck, and other structures there are absent in the middle of the road but are visible on the Series S. This suggests that the footage may be mislabeled or there is an issue with the PS5 version.

@zacharialopez4284

Ай бұрын

Nice catch

@thedcgaming5

Ай бұрын

probably a bug as they noted it about a minute later that's it's even lower than low settings

@kamil_atakan

Ай бұрын

Keep watching the video. He adresses it a minute later.

@Juxtapose1313

Ай бұрын

This is how it's always been on PlayStation versions of the game, oddly. However, these details are missing on Xbox now as well. I noticed it last night and others are confirming it in the official Discord. I then went back to Xbox One X, and they're now missing there as well.

@lil_mOO

Ай бұрын

@@Juxtapose1313 It's weird, they are actually there on PS5 until you look elsewhere in the same area and then go back to the same spot and it's gone. Buggy game.

Thank you DF for making this video! :)

Incredible, in-depth work, Tom! Thank you!

DF, let me preface by saying Im a seasoned modder and porter of mods for fallout 4 on xbox, and I really wanted you guys to shed some light into a terrible thing we're facing in that platform post april 25 update. Some mods have been causing an issue which kicks the user back to the main menu if you click on their descriptions. Also, you can somewhat randomly be rendered unable to access the mods menu itself, basically getting permakicked until you clear your mods reserved storage and lose everything. To make matters worse, if you decide to keep playing with your active mods instead of clearing the reserved space, the game may deactivate all your mods at random, basically forcing your hand at clearing the reserved space either way. The xbox community was eagerly waiting for these issues to be fixed in yesterday's patch, but it wasnt even addressed. No one's feeling comfortable with the idea of playing with mods at the moment, and whoever's doing it is aware that it is doing so while risking losing the entire mod load order at any given moment.

@DogCheese420

Ай бұрын

DF mostly focus on performance and visuals. Mods aren’t really their thing. There are plenty of other channels that discuss those problems.

I’m on PS5 and I think the game looks really good and runs great on performance.

@thomascros

Ай бұрын

Yes 🙌 it’s a pleasure to play it again and like this !

@romxxii

Ай бұрын

What's really astounding was how minimal the crashing was compared to PC.

@MiguelMakesMusic

Ай бұрын

that's how I'm playing it now. I don't have time to be tweaking settings endlessly so I'm not sure if this update is actually helpful or not.

@sanguina555

Ай бұрын

Did your ps5 fan get louder in big area?

Did they fix the map markers and pink textures in far harbour? Thanks

Been trying for an hour to get the sound to work on PC. Everytime I load the game up u can hear the Intro, then the screen turns black and then there's no sound at all. There is sound when playing in windowed mode and there's sound when I don't use mouse and keyboard. For some reason there's just no sound when I load the game in full screen with mouse and keyboard.

The PC version of this patch is an absolute joke. It should have been console only.

@ryanj610

Ай бұрын

Both of them, frankly. They never really did anything for PC other than Ultrawide.... and it doesn't even WORK. Sure, you can create a character now, but still need the mod to fix the UI and hud.

@AVerySillySausage

Ай бұрын

@@ryanj610 All they did for PC is break mods that make the game better. Should have been console only.

@USA92

Ай бұрын

​@@AVerySillySausageAa a console owner I agree. Quite the company.

@bubsy3861

Ай бұрын

It's just a classic case of shitty implementation. If they just make that right it will be perfectly ok to have.

I tried turning on visual mode + 60 FPS on PS5, but I kept running into an issue where being in VATS has huge stutters and the UI also gets really buggy. The text for the percentages flickers in and out (and sometimes disappears completely, leaving empty green boxes with no numbers). Turned back to performance + 60 FPS and it works fine. It also seems to trigger worse in buildings/enclosed spaces and better in the outside world which is... very weird, considering it should be drawing less stuff in an enclosed space than in the open world? I encountered it when I was in the Boston Public Library, but I would assume the same issue persists across other areas in the world.

@JLudd

Ай бұрын

Yep same issue, it also affects cutscenes via dialogue camera where it stutters there the same as it does with VATs. It’s a tad annoying the reviews don’t mention this as it’s a big issue.

No mention of VRR? Does it help?

That was incredibly informative. Thank you, Digital Foundry.

Ps5 performance 60 Probably best then. The 40fps visual is pretty good but just not as smooth as I like. Much better than 30 though.

Hope they cover the starfield update when its released.

@yahyax4882

Ай бұрын

It is

@offspringfan89

Ай бұрын

Done.

What about 1080p resolution on Visual Mode 30fps? Would that be better on the visual quality? Would that even lower the fps drops?

Emm. Just a question..why should i use the Performance when i have a 60fps cap in Visual mode?

VATS still broken. *sigh* Come on XBox....

@enjoi0555

Ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@jamesnunez9418

Ай бұрын

Why tf you blaming xbox and not Bethesda? Why so many mfers let bethesda slide on quality control.

@Tbonetron1701

Ай бұрын

@@jamesnunez9418well seeing as how Xbox owns Bethesda…

@ukgamer9363

Ай бұрын

learn to aim, vats is for ppl that cant aim.....(+)

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

I've been playing this game for dozens of hours since the next gen patch and VATS has worked correctly the entire time. What are you talking about?

Can Bethesda please decouple the creation club content from the main install? Some of us just like to play vanilla and this inflates the install size.

Did they fix the vats bug where the hit chance kept going from 95 to 0 even at point blank?

All well and true to have these visual enhancements and such.. buts the real point of this "next gen" update and then needing to patch it for the game to crash to desktop when simply trying to play surten missions such as the vault 88 (crashs when trying to load in 88 at the start of the quest) and also at the end of the mechenist quest line. So not only does it brake the main game but also the DLC. I haven't tried nuka cola world or far harbor yet but don't have high hopes.

Tried it out on PS5 for 15 minutes but the low FOV killed it for me. Wish they included a slider but I get it... baby steps.

All games should come with a 30/60fps toggle to future proof them for backwards compatibility on the next gen of consoles

@leruty

Ай бұрын

+"120 fps", PC´s max settings + 4K forced mode

@SweetFlexZ

Ай бұрын

As a PC player no, all games should come at 60FPS MINIMUM, sorry but 30 is not enough in 2024, I don't care how slow paced the game is, 30 is simply not enough. Console players should ask for more instead of chewing every shit they get.

@Anna_Rae

Ай бұрын

​@@SweetFlexZyou're really missing out on some amazing games if you think 30 fps is unplayable. Lots of older, but still awesome games run at 30, with no 60 fps patch in sight. I love playing games at 120 fps, but 30 is fine enough for me personally 💕

@SweetFlexZ

Ай бұрын

@@Anna_Rae I'm not missing out anything, I love gaming and I've been doing it for a long time, I obviously understand the limitations of some systems but we're talking about modern games on modern hardware and in that scenario less than 60 is not enough, this being a debate in 2024 is crazy.

@johnnyblaze9217

20 күн бұрын

@@SweetFlexZdepends on resolution. Expecting 60 fps at 4k is a tall ask even on gaming machines with 60 series cards.

Re: the drops on Series X in 60/Visual mode, wouldn't VRR clean up most of that on an applicable TV?

@soshady9572

Ай бұрын

Yes.

This really helped, thanks!

this update makes no sense on pc.....

@themarcshark

Ай бұрын

Fallout is a franchise for console.

@Door_Into_Summer

Ай бұрын

But it supports 16 by 9 now?

@coffeeaddicted4495

Ай бұрын

@@themarcshark you're genius

@evoandy

Ай бұрын

@@themarcsharkthen why is it on my PC?

@EscobarInternational

Ай бұрын

@@themarcshark?

The 40fps mode is awesome, Its soooooo smooth and consistent.

@heksen800

Ай бұрын

40 fps smooth? Are you deranged by any change?

@JB.zero.zero.1

Ай бұрын

@@heksen800 If he likes 40, so what.

@wikwayer

Ай бұрын

​@@heksen800do you own 120 hz monitor ?

@jordanr.4856

Ай бұрын

40fps in a 120HZ container feels great.

@EternalNightingale

Ай бұрын

Yea the 40 fps mode is nice the best option for consoles atm been playing survival mode on ps5 only had 2 crashes cause molotovs the game does not like them in certain areas

When loading a previous save on the PC Gamepass version it doesn't recognize the installed DLC. I'm not risking my survival game save until they fix that. So I haven't played any of the new patches due to that bug.

Thanks love your uploads, also I love to watch them when I need to go to sleep lol. Not in a bad way, I hope you understand.

So definitely 60fps/ visuals mode with a VRR-screen

The absolute state of BGS smh

16:53 man I hate when big shadows appear like that on objects...

I'm gonna wait for at least one more performance patch. One more. Right?

4:52 The LOD difference doesn't seem that clear-cut. In that first shot PS5 is clearly using MUCH higher quality models from the mid-distance onwards. Just look at the bridge, and all the cars on it on PS5 that are missing on Xbox.

@CMKESKIN

Ай бұрын

Even some part of the bridge on the ground is missing

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

There were plenty of shots were the PS5 was also missing models where they were present on XSX. I'm betting this is a game issue, and not a hardware issue.

@CMKESKIN

Ай бұрын

@@JustinLesamiz yeah most likely this will be the case

@user-rm4ct8cp8b

Ай бұрын

Sonyboy

@lucassaldanha5855

Ай бұрын

4:18 look at the tree branches in the horizon, or the sharpness of Washington monument before.

I remember playing FO4 on an i7 7700 back in the day and shadow draw distance was a extremely intensive, playing above Medium caused the FPS to drop horribly in the city area. No wonder why they wouldn´t increase the setting on console, considering their CPUs are still weak.

@thebaffman4898

Ай бұрын

The CPUs are not that weak, it's just that the engine is outdated and hammers a couple of cores while the others sit there doing nearly nothing. Also the downtown city areas put out a huge number of draw calls that would stress any CPU.

@ChisponGroxo

Ай бұрын

@@thebaffman4898 yeah, if the engine is old then there's not much that can be done.

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

the cpu in the consoles is better than a 7700

So what was your experience using a VRR display??

So did this update also wipe out mods on the XBox or are we safe to update this now?

It's crazy these consoles should be powerful enough

@sammysalgado1475

Ай бұрын

They ARE,with companies seem allergic to letting everyone push them and they deadass want us to buy new consoles soon 😒

@ClutchTacticsGaming

Ай бұрын

They tryna be like the shitty ass phone makert convincing people they need to upgrade every damn year lol I hate it. A consoles life can and should be more than 5 years IMO​@@sammysalgado1475

@Mopboy4K

Ай бұрын

You used console and powerful in the same sentence which is a contradiction

@TheGlowingOnee

Ай бұрын

@@Mopboy4Kwell on paper these consoles should be able to run the game on maxed settings, come on now

@subjectivereviews

Ай бұрын

Bad coding dude

Series X has 2 significant advantages though: HDR and lower VRR ceiling making those “hitches” visibly imperceptible. I’m surprised neither were mentioned.

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

It's Auto HDR and it looks like absolute ass.

@tronam

Ай бұрын

@@JustinLesamiz I couldn’t disagree more. It isn’t perfect, but looks better 90% of the time than without.

@leruty

Ай бұрын

nd Freesync (VRR) support so no need for HDMI 2.1 monitor

@xxticxxtocxx7909

Ай бұрын

Can I just note here, Playstation 5 has an 'HDR Always On' mode, completely removing one of Xbox's 'significant advantages'? Still, I'll stick to PC, but still prefer Skyrim or Fallout 3 to Fallout 4.

@Capricorn_IV

Ай бұрын

​@@tronamI agree with Justin, it looks terrible and I have a flagship 2023 qd oled. It looks truly awful and while a advantage in some games this is not the case in fallout 4

Good analysis, Tom.

The update on series x fixed several graphic glitches in my case. Really cool. Played a lot since the updates again. ☮️

And yet, another settlement still needs my help….

@BroadFame

Ай бұрын

I’ll mark the location on your map.

Call me crazy but if there’s some dips in high cluttered areas it don’t really bother me. You’re talking about 10-20 max frames(to 40fps). That don’t bother me.

Bethesda told us 2 years ago about the next gen update. Modders could have made this update in 1 week.

This is actually a really good solution for use that still use a 1080p TV. Now I can use the ”visual” setting and aim for 60fps with lower resolution. I can’t tell the difference in resolution anyway

I swear that the ps5 version running at 40 fps on a 120hz tv has gotten worse. It used to be buttery smooth but this last update broke it and made everything judder and a pain to look at.

The latest patch just released to fix the next gen update issues and now they've messed this patch up as well. Now auto HDR is enabled in fallout 4 even with auto HDR turned off in Xbox settings. Makes the game look gaudy, too bright and unnatural

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

Yup. You have to disable HDR at a system level to get the game to look vaguely decent. They should at least add a "toggle & restart" option on the game's menu.

@Capricorn_IV

Ай бұрын

​@@JustinLesamizEven with auto HDR disabled in the settings, it's still enabled in game. I cannot disable it

@WayStedYou

Ай бұрын

They are called BUGthesda for good reason.

@SabiJD

Ай бұрын

Have you tried NACX (Lite)? HDR seems to make it trickier to fine tune (perhaps a NVG mod is also interacting iffily with it. too early to tell), but it's surely the best tool any Xbox player will ever have with Fallout 4 visual tailoring (e.g. brightness, contrast, saturation, skybox luminosity, sunlight, etc. there is a HDR value, but I've not fiddled enough with it to sus its changes).

@matthewsmith3817

Ай бұрын

​@@Capricorn_IV It is incredible how the console's Auto HDR setting does not work on native Series X games that utilize it. Auto can look good with bright highlights, but then you realize the destruction it can do to black levels. I would say that inconvenience is another reason to play on PC, but that version is plagued with ridiculous bugs.

I still have problems on PS5 during weapon reloading animation. If I’m outside a power armor, then find a power armor and equip it, I lose the reload animation for any weapons but the one equipped… but, after any “quick save” (auto or not) happens, then I lose the ability to reload any weapon. Solution in game, is exit the power armor, then reload the weapon, then get back into power armor…. Works, again, until any quick-save happens then lose weapon reload animation. Advice?

I never got the update... I keep checking and it says I am up to date. Still got all the same issues it had post upgrade. No idea what the hell is going on

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

Reboot your console.

They gave all this freedom but didn’t give people the freedom to choose an option for maxed settings. Noticed some nasty graphical bugs that were introduced with this update as well, and Bethesda is probably finished with this now…

@TherealPlayfourlife

Ай бұрын

I agree. Pre patch on ps5, the game was great. Now it's having trouble hitting ultra settings, and I have the resolution set to 1440p

Loving the game! My running time is just over 4 days. ❤

So if I have a 1440p120hz monitor with VRR, I should play on visual mode at 60 FPS right? (XBSX)

So does this patch fix the previous patch and will a new patch need to be developed to fix this patch ???

You definitely deserve more recognition for this!

What about PC and Steam Deck? The update was also targeted at those.

@IHaveBadWiFiBro

Ай бұрын

these updates had no reason to come to pc edition, just a straight shot at telling mod creators to deal with it

@tom_123

Ай бұрын

@@IHaveBadWiFiBro Agreed. They should have left the PC version alone.

Did they fix the 25m draw distance issue on the ps5?

Brill, thanks, it's looking and playing better than ever on the XSX, loving it...

This should have been a console specific update. I see no real benefit to updating the PC version and breaking the script extender. With a few QOL/engine fix, performance fix mods you can get FO4 running better than it runs with this BGS official patch. This nonsense only halts progress on the major mod projects like FO London, FO4 New Vegas, FO Miami, and FO Cascadia. Hell, if it weren't for this nonsensical "patch" we'd all ve playing FO London right now.

Wait wait wait, are you telling me that a PS5/Series X cannot match a $3000 PC?

A modder has added fsr/dlss and frame-gen to this game.... BUT Bethesda has absolutely no clue how to do it themselves. Quite sad really.

@eternalbeing3339

Ай бұрын

Lol figures. Modders have had to do alot for bethesda games.

My 65 inch Sony 4K set is 10 years old and is only capable of 60hz and not 120. As a result, my only frame rate choices are only 30fps or 60fps. U have been running in visual mode at 60fps, but now I'm thinking of running it at 30fps to make it more stable?

Too early, i can't see people fighting over his favorite console

@user-ce1nf1fx2z

Ай бұрын

Syberia 4 runs worse than Cyberpunk.

@Door_Into_Summer

Ай бұрын

Deus ex 1 runs best on PS2

@user-ce1nf1fx2z

Ай бұрын

@@Door_Into_Summer Disaster Report 4, it couldn't even reach 15fps.

@telboy007

Ай бұрын

Atari ST 4 life

@user-ce1nf1fx2z

Ай бұрын

@@telboy007 Only thing that could beat Lionel Rich tea.

Bethesda sucks more than I could ever state in a KZread comment.

@ 4:28 , good to see all that next gen horsepower and Bethesda still couldn’t fix that god-awful shadow draw distance. Have fun walking around in the city where there are shadows literally everywhere and they only appear 10 meters in front of you.

Does vrr help 4k 60 visual mode?

"A settlement needs your help!"

Maybe they should be putting out an updated patch for FO76.

@JustinLesamiz

Ай бұрын

Seriously. It's dumb that we don't have a Series X optimized very of 76

@nicolasoliveira4903

Ай бұрын

​@@JustinLesamizOptimize what? Runs at 60 fps.

@silversquid1814

Ай бұрын

They… did? It’s not a next-gen native version like the new Fallout 4 update, but they did give 76 a patch enabling 60 FPS on PS5 and Xbox Series.

Its wild there is no uncapped VRR mode.

@CruxisAngel954

Ай бұрын

Apparently the physics are tied to frame rate. Running at higher than 60 would make the game speed up. Thought this practice died with the PS2 era but Bethesda keeping it alive.

@mikem2253

Ай бұрын

@@CruxisAngel954 My PC version runs over that without issue and without mods.

What happens on PC with the Tower View and the Minefield?

Still no FOV slider Still no fix for weapon debris on RTX Still no fix for loading screens tied to framerate Still no way to change graphic options from the game itself

@YellowBriefs

Ай бұрын

@@aaa4181 stating facts ≠ crying

@VisualCake

Ай бұрын

Bethesda... Bethesda never changes.

the state of modern gaming is an absolute joke now, developer closures and disbanding is rampant and publishers have an annoying habit of rushing things out when they are not ready, it doesn't make gaming look good honestly

Can you still run 1440P at 60 FPS regardless of modes selected?

Love the disconnection of framerate cap from graphical fidelity. These will run better with future consoles.