"This was no mistake by Bethesda" now THAT is a bold theory

@jackercooper4078

4 жыл бұрын

truly

@gctdonyre

4 жыл бұрын

It just works.

@hakes98

4 жыл бұрын

90% sure they just couldn't be arsed to change the normal maps in the helmets, thus the vault-tec logo shows under certain light.

@gabem7618

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Powmonki

3 жыл бұрын

they make no mistake, only happy little accidents

title: "terrifying fallout 4 theories" me: "ah this can't be that bad" video: "kitten vault" me: *screaming*

@kum6865

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao.

@drippinbroomy4830

4 жыл бұрын

I can understand,as I am allergic to them.

@komodogaming9598

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm allergic so fuck that vault

@captin3149

4 жыл бұрын

@Jason Jones I find it more likely that some cats were in one or more vaults as pets. a vault that Mr didn't know about. Maybe even Vault 81 since there was a cat in there anyway. 81 seems to have opened up some time before, long enough to establish a trader network. Some of the cats might have gotten out and repopulated in that time. (I ignore 76)

@dopiestplanet1624

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a dog person

The whole "Mr House said cats went extinct" thing I imagine is just him referring to the area he is in, he could have absolutely no idea that they're still around outside of New Vegas.

@haley5351

7 ай бұрын

i mean, there's a cat on the Prydwen

@lucutes2936

6 ай бұрын

Huh

@idrisali3947

3 ай бұрын

@@haley5351also at abernathy farms

Billy actually did confirm that he hid before the war Saying that he was walking home when he heard sirens and then there was a massive rumbling noise as said in his dialogue

@cjab__

3 жыл бұрын

So I guess it was just a poorly written quest huh

@Vlad544_

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjab__ yup

@WellWoopdidoo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he and his parents were also human last time they saw each other because Billy asks about their appearance. Just bad writing.

@Jolan61

3 жыл бұрын

Also, he didn't know his parents were ghouls

@edgerunner__

3 жыл бұрын

Mabey ghouls can survive without food if their stomachs ghoulify so only if you take severe radiation you can survive without food

5 theories that are ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING! “there was a vault with cats in it” IM SPOOKED

@Tn-ze5ey

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

@sirstinkalot6813

4 жыл бұрын

I can't sleep at night knowing that there is a possibility of virtual cats inside a vault somewhere

@zachthompson9198

4 жыл бұрын

I came down to make the same comment

@flamingmidas

4 жыл бұрын

👽

@nathanrandomized3593

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so scared.

Perhaps the cats in Fo4 are synthetic cats, made by the Institute while the Fo76 cats are cats who survived the Great War, and between those two games, they went extinct but were "Jurassic Parked" back to life.

@raulcerna4708

5 жыл бұрын

You guys saw that most of the cats look the same maybe they are cloned cats

@SevCaswell

5 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly, either that or Ashes had a lot of siblings/children...

@giantred

5 жыл бұрын

Hrm, somebody already posted about this. Oh well, no matter, my comment went into more detail. so there :P

@schizo113

5 жыл бұрын

there was a cat in fallout befor there was one in Fallout Brotherhood of Steel fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._Pussy

@thereallonefallout1920

5 жыл бұрын

@@giantred I didn't see your comment. I did see someone say how Fo76 messed up their theory, though.

“Bethesda wouldn’t reuse these assets.” *Stares at Fallout 76*

@jodysmith7856

3 жыл бұрын

But they run off the same engine. It’s easier. 3 and new Vegas had a lot of the same assets.

@capitcha

3 жыл бұрын

@@jodysmith7856 Because the New Vegas developers had a year to make the game.

@Ludovicus1769

3 жыл бұрын

@@jodysmith7856 Bethesda also made Fallout 3.

@myfestivus4336

2 жыл бұрын

Very common in software development.

@rexevans100

2 жыл бұрын

Bethesda isn't the only gaming company to do this.... if a 2 games share an engine, and a somewhat similar art style, assets are going to be exchanged.

I have to add another turning point for the covenant theory. One that makes it add up more. McCready gets happy with you when to enter covenant. And for anyone who doesn't know, McCready was a kid from fallout 3 who was president of Little Lamplight. Really adds to the vault 101 theory

I just imagine the children of atom hiding a lifetime supply of rad away somewhere

@ethanblevins1116

4 жыл бұрын

RadAway is a common reward for fighting them

@damiendemers7495

4 жыл бұрын

Lol most likely

@Zalwalloo

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanblevins1116 but then again, radaway and and rad x are common rewards for killing ghouls

@Maddiedoggie

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zalwalloo maybe rad-x and radaway is made from ghoul shit? Similar how jet is from brahmin shit?

@twoblackthorned

4 жыл бұрын

In the Far Harbor DLC, the Children of Atom explain that many of them are born completely immune to radiation. The ones that aren't immune but still wish to worship Atom are why the Rad-X and Radaway are horded by their members. They explain this while you're repairing their decontamination chamber so it blows out radiation instead of curing it.

Theory: The "Cat Vault" was actually more of an "Animal Husbandry Vault". It took in people who considered themselves animal-lovers, and as many pet owners as they could possibly arrange for. It was only equipped with enough food to feed the occupants and their pets for a decade at the most. Not accounting for offspring. The goal of the experiment was to see if the dwellers would start eating their own pets, and breeding them for food, in order to survive. If this were included in the game, it could explain the presence of both cats and healthy dogs. Though it would be nice to see the cats changed to look like they've been bred as livestock. Big fat Maine Coons selectively bred for size, posing an actual threat in the wasteland.

@spleens4200

4 жыл бұрын

A rideable Maine coon for fallout and daft horses for Elder Scrolls I’m digging it

@trevordrawbaugh7812

4 жыл бұрын

That also explains dogmeat...if dogmeat wasn't a synth spy

@gadellomagnollo1810

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, saber cats.

@JonarusDraconius

4 жыл бұрын

Maine Coons would make a certain degree of sense geographically too... Maine is THAT far from Boston...

@Sam-yf9sf

4 жыл бұрын

Vault theory apart (and not takin fallout 76 in count). Maybe cats are spies from the Institute ? OK hear me out : - Cats are the only animals that doesn't have a single mutated version (unlike dogs rats ...) - Cats only seemed to appear around Boston (as we didn't have them in the previous Fallout) - The Institute knows how to clone animals, they already have several cloned animals - It would also explain why Mr House said they disappeared Also it would be a great easter eggs as Americans had a plan for a surveillance cat during the cold war

During the CoA part I was just giggling at the idea that Amun shows up after not being worship in years and even after figuring out they don’t mean him he’s like “they’re a bit confused but they got spirt” and helps them out anyway.

@sciathoir

6 ай бұрын

Holy crap, I didn’t even think about it like that 🤣🤣

Nate: 5 terrifying theories Number one: ghouls don’t crap

Fallout 4’s greatest mystery; why can you only make ramshackle shacks and not nice looking homes?

@sayerslayer1854

5 жыл бұрын

Bethesda's budget

@gabork5055

5 жыл бұрын

Because in Fallout 4 the protagonist is the chosen one, the Sole Beggar destined to lead a hobo cult and they already had those textures, so why change it if it just works?

@LordHammer33

5 жыл бұрын

Because nice homes take a while to build and any construction site would probably be under constant attack

@jagcubyugi9

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Dinvell because all the metal is pre war and you’re just reusing it? So it’ll all be rusted and old,

@zekun4741

5 жыл бұрын

you actually can make normal looking homes, you just need to cough up some dollars for the DLCs

My theory is that Nate is actually Todd Howard and that's how he knows so much about Fallout and The Elder Scrolls

@Fenris2

5 жыл бұрын

Little Shmuplet he would be setting up buy loot boxes for fallout 76 at the end

@hopelesscrusader5990

5 жыл бұрын

Na, he would have our wallets by now if he was

@theevillekid8118

5 жыл бұрын

If he was Todd he wouldn't know anything about the franchise 🤔

@ilikeslimytacosialsolikemy9301

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, Nate would never make fallout 76.

@Sicarius888

5 жыл бұрын

Todd wouldn't accept that because his videos never crashed or bugged and I don't have to fix them myself. They just work with many times the detail. Oh wait, that sounds familiar.

I LOVE the Gunner theory; it would explain why the Gunners seem almost superhuman in their abilities and tactics. Their origins in a vault would also explain why they are heavily associated with tech and robotics(like Assaultrons)

@PalassCat

Жыл бұрын

Or they can be the remains of US army that turned into a mercenary organization to survive. And those kids could join them and become high ranked gunners when they grew up.

@OwenHarris-kv5rv

8 ай бұрын

Maybe it explains why they can eat 30 .50 cal hunting rifle shots to the head back to back💀💀

The main thing about Billy, as I remember it, he had a friend he was hanging out with and said there was food in the fridge he slowly ate while trapped. The lore on ghouls is they don't NEED to eat, drink, or sleep, but they CHOOSE to, what they mainly need is radiation to keep living. The real issue with billy is the fact ghouls who are bored/don't keep an active mind and try to keep humanity start to go feral. Without something to hang on to, to keep them sane, they tend to revert and become feral, often time being stuck in a place for a long time can make them go feral. So either Billy has had a very vivid imagination an will to live, or it's just something that should be a Wild Wasteland moment.

@ravenred6878

Жыл бұрын

Considering he held on to the fact that he wanted to see his parents I kinda believe that that hope kept him from going feral.

@mannamoth918

Жыл бұрын

@@ravenred6878 the Power of Family kept Billy sane

@Fraud_Above_All

Жыл бұрын

@@mannamoth918 Dom would be proud

@LegioXIII-SPQR

Жыл бұрын

Imagine having to deal with a horde of child ferals

@Sevness

Жыл бұрын

@@LegioXIII-SPQR That sounds horrifying, just a bunch of radioactive gremlins crawling out from under cars and trash piles and other places, to come swarming out. That sounds almost as bad as the time I installed some Fallout 4 mods, without really paying attention to things, one of them was a mod for better skin textures or something. Well, wandering around, came across a hoard of Feral ghouls, that all came running at me, with huge erections, and that was so unexpected and fear inducing to see like 15 to 20 scrawny, naked, erect ghouls all coming for my ass. Don't think I played Fallout 4 again for a while after finding the mod that added that, and disabling that part of it.

I thought The Children of Atom were just individuals with a natural semi-immunity to radiation. In essence, it's natural selection. Those that survive long enough become members and raise in the ranks.

@deadslothgaming

5 жыл бұрын

@@loveblanket6512 Tell that to the ghouls buddy

@danny1178

5 жыл бұрын

@@loveblanket6512 we're also talking about a game 200+ years in the future so...

@reececowell6642

5 жыл бұрын

@@loveblanket6512 Fallout plays fast and loose with real life science

@MightyPotato43

5 жыл бұрын

Well if you complete a quest for some member of the nucleus in the Far harbor DLC (don't remember the name of the quest) you will hear that some members are born with "atoms gift" that makes them 100% immune to radiation and some members are not. The quest where you learn this is given to you by one of the more... sane members of the children so I would consider it "canon" if you will. I also think you have to remember that the universe of fallout does follow the same "laws" of nature as the real world. In my opinion if you dig deep Bethesda has basically hidden a bunch of evidance that shows that The Children Of Atom are just a bunch of deranged cult members that some happen to have a mutation that makes them immune to radiation and they use that a much more as "evidence" of atom. This seems to be obvious at first but can take some serious digging to actually back up.

@kalypso4133

5 жыл бұрын

@@loveblanket6512 Actually, we haven't been able to prove that we can't gain a semi or full immunity to radiation. People can become immune to disease and poison if they survive the encounter, so why not to the isotopes that would poison us from radiation? Cells can be immune to outside forces that would affect them on a cellular level, and even your shotgun point isn't fully true... As eventually, one may survive, and if they mate with someone who had survived, they can possibly start an evolution line of humans that can survive shotgun blasts to the brain through the mouth, then eventually after a long time of dealing with that, they may gain a full immunity. The roof of the mouth hardening up, skull becoming harder, other shit.

Wait a second. Atom, Atum, Egypt, Cats, Mummies, Ghouls...my god it's all coming together.

@giantred

5 жыл бұрын

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@lordgoose6205

5 жыл бұрын

Oh my God you're right

@MidoriOfTheShuinsen

5 жыл бұрын

The Acended One hath spoken!

@cin2110

5 жыл бұрын

GODDAMNIT it’s DIO again

@Actuallythedovahkiin

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus christ your right! It all makes sense wow 😯

For the 101 Theory I would like to add something... I think that Deezer is that Working(ish) Medical Robot from Vault 101 with a wiped memory, it was slightly broken the second time the player (if the player chose to) entered Vault 101, if it was taken via caravan to the commonwealth, it is extremely likely that it was targeted by the raiders, hence it’s extreme damages.

Mr House reach was limited to the Mojave so it is likely that housecats are extinct in Calfornia, Nevada, Arizona and Utah.

Theory about Billy: The long term memories of Billy and his parents are all destroyed by radiation. Thus, Billy gets stuck in the fridge any time he hides from frantic fighting in Quincy, while his parents forget where he hides. They don't know how long he's been gone, and Billy can't tell day from night in the fridge.

@briancatoni7000

4 жыл бұрын

I'll take it

@GTSN38

4 жыл бұрын

Naw, I think he hid in the refrigerator because a slaver was after him.

@cristian-ionutapostol8018

4 жыл бұрын

I love this theory!

@karenbier44

4 жыл бұрын

but that negates the whole reason the theory was made which was to explain their attitude towards their son returning.

@Wired_User

4 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to make me cry, cause you succeeded

A vault specifically for preserving an animal species would be one of the few morally good decisions Vault Tec ever made

@seprithlicastia463

5 жыл бұрын

No, no, no. Vault-Tec cannot do anything good. The cats must be genetically altered to no longer pur or something. Cannot have Vault-Tec do something good, after all.

@seanb.6793

5 жыл бұрын

A vault zoo with several kinds of animals and vets caring for them would be an interesting addition to Fallout.

@SevCaswell

5 жыл бұрын

i like the idea of a vault for cats, one for dogs too, otherwise where do all the pure bred dogs in the CC come from? But I prefer the idea that all the cats in the commonwealth, like the cannon crows and seagulls, are synths made to spy on people by the institute.

@Grabnok

5 жыл бұрын

SevCaswell I personally prefer sprinklings of actual positivity in my desolate futures of despair.

@bluejay7071

5 жыл бұрын

A vault full of cats and humans who were alergic to cats, there issue solved.

When you sarcastically say to Billy “can you get me the mayo? Second shelf next to the pudding.” (Or to that degree) he says “That’s not something to say to a kid stuck in a fridge besides I ate the pudding a long time ago.” (Again something to that degree) so if he’s not joking he might have had food in the fridge and managed to make it last 200 years but I don’t know it’s just my theory

@Rujewitblood

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always just assumed he was eating from the fridge

@Princess_Celestia_

Жыл бұрын

@@Rujewitblood Why? Ghouls don't need to actually eat to survive

When I first saw a cat in FO4, I was puzzled by its existence, but after seeing the gorillas in the institute I was sure the cats must be synths. May be a side project of one of the scientists from the institute . Cats have infiltrated everywhere, even BoS .

Mr.house: hmmm, I haven't seen a cat in a while... I guess they all died everywhere. I've decided they are extinct.

@oreo625

4 жыл бұрын

Kael ofAshes yeah pretty much

@VINCE-pp3es

3 жыл бұрын

@Epoxygleu ivory billed woodpecker also look into localized extinction

Simple answer to Billy's situation: he and his family are playing a prank on passers-by.

@MediumRareOpinions

4 жыл бұрын

Ah the "unreliable narrator" angle? Kinda like the Lone Wanderer believing they were born into Vault 101

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps more of a 'morality test'.

@killertofu586

3 жыл бұрын

@@MediumRareOpinions Well, you actually are born in Vault 101 as the lone wanderer; it's just that your father came there from outside the vault, before-hand, no? I don't remember if you find out you weren't born there, just that your dad came from the outside

@MediumRareOpinions

3 жыл бұрын

@@killertofu586 The player was born in the lower levels of the Jefferson Memorial Building. You can find the room and holotape recordings of the mother there. Star Paladin Cross has dialogue about it, she remembers escorting James and the player as a baby across the wasteland.

@killertofu586

3 жыл бұрын

@@MediumRareOpinions Ah, I didn't play enough of Fallout 3 to learn this! Thanks for the info, man. I should actually replay and beat the game, looking for little things like this, because I love finding "unnecessary" information

Since most of security personnel from vault 111 went out after the first few years of isolation (resulting overseer's death). I could be more plausible that the Covenant might be a settlement built by remnants of vault 111 personnels. Where i don't recall having seen vault 111 posters, it could be possible that bethesda wanted really badly to add those to justify the "descendant from a vault" story.

"cat vault" honestly, it would make much more sense if these things were synths. The Institute can make synthetic animals. why not re-introduce cats.

@jaybirdrosewater-holmes7071

4 жыл бұрын

It would explain why there's a bunch of super random dead cats in the FEV lab in the Institute, where you go to get Virgil his cure

@Enderborn272

4 жыл бұрын

hey good catch. I didn't even remember that. birds, gorillas, brahmin, why not cats. i mean it doesn't explain how they are in fallout 76. though it could be that they hadn't died off yet because of the time it is set in.

@jaybirdrosewater-holmes7071

4 жыл бұрын

@@Enderborn272 I'm a newcomer to the Fallout series and did the mission just a couple weeks ago so dont worry about it^^

@MediumRareOpinions

4 жыл бұрын

I suppose it's not mutually exclusive for cats to have both survived in small numbers and for the Institute to have engineered their own population. I mean that's how Super Mutants keep popping up all over post war America even though they're not directly connected.

@askinredroads5132

4 жыл бұрын

Jaybird Rosewater-Holmes no, the dead cats are there since they thought the cats would bring “humanity” to the super mutants, its in one the terminals.

Considering there was a vault with one man and puppets, it would make sense if they made a vault consisting of one cat loving lady and a vault full of cats.

@monstersrelease556

10 ай бұрын

Or (more in line with Vault-Tec's cruelty) a group of people who are allergic to cats tasked with caring for a vault full of cats and make sure the cats survive or face death themselves.

@BlaqueButterfly51

10 ай бұрын

​@@monstersrelease556oooooo now that's an idea

@BerryBoyXD

8 ай бұрын

@@monstersrelease556And make all residents have a family history of consistent allergies to cats, so no matter how much they try and "breed" the allergy out of future generations it can't happen

@lucutes2936

6 ай бұрын

Where

@matthewdaye5410

3 ай бұрын

Guy afraid of cats , vault of cats!

Me: “Yo Nate, how dead are they?” Nate: “Seriously, they got murdered” Me: “Ok, how?” Nate: “M U R D E R E D T O D E A T H” M: (scribbling in price of paper) “Ok, noted”

@Crebb2184

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder how much it costed...

@lilweeniehutjunior4294

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment

@bangerz5871

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes perfect engish

@gakr8493

3 жыл бұрын

Why is he dead He died Gasp

@LeigonX

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crebb2184 you dont need the "ed" on cost

Billy tells his parents "you look just like me". He didn't know untill he saw them that they were gouls.

@brick2392

Жыл бұрын

Plus I could be corrected if I'm wrong but there is a spot on the map where you can open one of those single bomb shelters and I believe a feral ghoul runs out absolutely implying that it was in there since the Great war so this idea that ghouls need food and water doesn't really hold up under those principles not to mention that there are plenty of places in game that feral ghouls have been locked inside of for years without those supplies

@brick2392

Жыл бұрын

I just honestly think that it's more unlikely he didn't go feral considering he's been in there for over 200 years cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs 🤪

@chrisschoenthaler5184

Жыл бұрын

Which is perplexing, given that he hasn’t seen a mirror since he became a ghoul.

@jackhiggins3936

Жыл бұрын

@@brick2392 I have to think that the lack of any maturity development in Billy implies that ghouls are more or less frozen in the mentality they had upon ghoulification. This could mean that he could not become feral, as he had too much childlike innocence to go Lord of the Flies. Or Bethesda sucks at cohesive worldbuilding. Could be that one too

@brick2392

Жыл бұрын

@@jackhiggins3936 well I think that your answer is a good as an answer for the sake of explaining it away because I think anybody would go feral for being stuck in a fridge for that long 😆 I mean heck I'd go Farrell just for being stuck in that fridge for an hour but obviously Bethesda doesn't usually like to give opportunities to kill children in game Plus it kind of makes for an interesting story in general

When it comes to the cat theory, I want to say they might be synths because when you go into the institute they have synth gorrilas and the institute definitely has the ability to make something as small as a cat. However I also love the idea of a cat vault😂

The ghoul kid theory doesn't really work, the kid wasn't a ghoul before as his dad has to explain to him what a ghoul is.

@pixystixnfairycrack

5 жыл бұрын

And ghouls can't have children. So his parents both being ghouls means that they had him before they were turned by all those rads.

@aerozed95

5 жыл бұрын

Also Private Edwards was turned into a ghoul after the Legion leaked radiation in Camp Searchlight.

@AdamaSanguine

5 жыл бұрын

@@aerozed95 Capt. and AZ Your both 100% correct

@VXGaming

5 жыл бұрын

Perhaps they were turned into ghouls a few months prior to releasing the kid.

@zoltanbojan8035

5 жыл бұрын

@@VXGaming still doesnt explain why the kid didnt know what is a ghoul

My Covenant theory: The Creation Club Tunnel Snakes Rule! mod was created to canonize the migration of Vault 101 residents to the Commonwealth. As for the cats, they're synths.

@michaelavery935

4 жыл бұрын

You know I've wondered about the synths. They seem to be constructed using biological material and are indistinguishable from regular humans except for a chip in the brain, so I wonder if they can biologically reproduce.

@derekstoughton3078

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Torres cats were mentioned abit in fallout one and two but I think the cats are a product of the institute

@mareklwhip4590

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i commented pretty much the same thing and WHAT THE ATOM CATS ARE SYNTHS? MY BOIS NOOO

@mareklwhip4590

4 жыл бұрын

oh wait never mind you were talking about the vault of cats.....sorry atom cats r greasers too....

@xptaco2298

4 жыл бұрын

N0

I just figured the cats were another variety of synth, the Institute could potentially use them to keep an eye on the surface while barely being noticed.

The only issue with the “Billy wasn’t hiding from the Great War” theory is that if Billy was already a ghoul, why does his dad have to explain to him what a Ghoul is?

@thefreakingmoon5640

Жыл бұрын

It's possible the fight between the Minutemen and the Gunners included nukes

you are single-handily the channel that has made me start replaying Skyrim and Fallout.. Thank you nate!

@brandonblackfyre5783

4 жыл бұрын

I still haven't beat Fallout 4 yet. I am playing it right now

@jaysonisgreat

4 жыл бұрын

Handily? Lol. Did you mean handedly...?

Speaking of Egypt, I wonder what the sphinxes and pyramids look like post-Fallout-apocalypse

@KnochenGott

5 жыл бұрын

I imagine that because of low population nobody really bombed egypt like russia/china bombed the US. So either there isnt that much damage done or its a complete wasteland, with pyramids but no people. Its a poor country so i bet they dont have vaults

@3meralddoughnut

5 жыл бұрын

@@KnochenGott Well, that's most likely true but some of the countries around Egypt most likely got bombed, and the effects of the nukes probably reached Egypt.

@KnochenGott

5 жыл бұрын

@@3meralddoughnut as i said, either it didnt get bombed or it did and nobody survived as they wouldnt have vaults. The pyramids would stay though

@3meralddoughnut

5 жыл бұрын

@@KnochenGott What? What I was trying to say was that it most likely didn't get bombed but still had the effects of the nuclear apocalypse, mainly radiation.

@leebrand8997

5 жыл бұрын

Emerald Doughnut knowing the fallout universe Egypt has already weaponised them , the Sphinx a walking mech somewhat like big daddy liberty prime , and the pyramids eh flying space ships 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂

Wait so if billy was only in the fridge for a couple of months why would he ask his parents why they are burned like him

they didnt have to reach that far on the cats, it could have literally just been cats brought out from vaults that were owned by the dwellers and could succeasfully thrive in the now-coming-back wasteland. you literally help find a vault dweller’s cat in the game.

Here's a theory I've had for a while, which is backed up by lore AND Is honestly pretty out there: Radiation in the Fallout Universe isn't the energy emissions studied in our universe... ...It's the taint of the eldritch abominations lurking behind the scenes. It's clearly established that radiation there does not work like radiation here. That's because it's not the same thing. Follow my thinking. Every time we've been somewhere where the eldritch is strong (the Dunwich Building, the Dunwich Borers, etc) there's always ghouls about (or in the case of Krivbeknih, mutated swampfolk). Now you might say that's because these places are abandoned, allowing ghouls to move in, but the logs in the Dunwich suggest the people become ghouls after they get there. But these places are also always radioactive in some way, in particular, the obelisk under the Dunwich building itself emits radiation despite no evident reason it should do so. The pit at the bottom of the Borer's quarry? Despite being extremely deep groundwater, it's as radioactive as any water on the surface. All this heavily implies a relation between the elder ones and radiation. Now, while radiation causing mutations is documented extensively in the real world... but nowhere has it ever turned sea life into giant abominations with psychic-blast attacks, iguanas into slavering death beasts, or humans into ageless zombies. Across the board, the mutated creatures of the wasteland are super aggressive and far more deadly than their real life counterparts. To me, this sounds more like an eldritch taint that simple mutation. This also explains the little things like while despite (most) ghouls not actively emitting radiation, they still irradiate you on touch, again something more inline with a quasi-magical taint than a quasi-scientific one. Also at the bottom of the quarry are a pair of mininukes next to the sacrificial knife. Why are they there? Clearly no one's been down there since before the war, and back then they would be much more difficult for civilians to obtain, so it must've been important to them. They might be offerings, or symbolic representations as devices that spread their eldritch taint into the world. Or, alternatively, the eldritch ones may have put them their themselves for YOU to find and use.

@mrkiky

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's established that deathclaws and supermutants were deliberately created by the Institute with genetic manipulation and the FEV. While I'm not sure about other creatures, since the FEV is established to exist, it's a more likely explanation that it somehow got lose in all the war chaos and started to infect different creatures and it may also mutated itself as well. As for why ghouls irradiate you more when they hit you could have perfect sense scientifically since radiation is stronger the closer you are to the source, so touching a radioactive source would be the worst, especially if radioactive particles get stuck on your skin or , even worse, in a wound.

@mrkiky

4 жыл бұрын

@@geekoborabora Well it fits better in this universe than magic...

@geekoborabora

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrkiky As Nate has pointed out, lovecraftian occurrences are canon. There's SOME kinda higher force messing with wastelands. The Dunwich Building, the Krivbeknih, Cabbot's Crown, there's SOMETHING out there, and if it's not magic it's so advanced it's indistinguishable from magic.

@whytsler

4 жыл бұрын

Even though I absolutely love your theory, I think it's missing what mrkiky told you below: that the origin of some creatures is actually more related to direct human intervention than accidental or magical development. Even though, you're including something that makes perfect sense within FO universe: that Lovecraftian lore is heavily present in the world, and therefore a relationship between FO's radiation and Eldrich energy actually makes sense. IDK if Bethesda will use this or not, but I'll include this theory of yours in my own conception of the FO's lore, and play the FO games with this in mind. Thank you!

@mattrogers6107

4 жыл бұрын

@mrkiky “I think it's established that deathclaws and supermutants were deliberately created by the Institute with genetic manipulation and the FEV.” Yes, it’s definitely established lore, the super mutants were definitely intentional, although i can’t remember if it was as weapons or just as a way to survive the nuclear war which seemed inevitable by that point. Deathclaws, however, were definitely made for war, they took Jackson’s chameleons (and apparently a few other things, I think humans may even have been part of the splicing, hence the intelligence of deathclaws) and created giant murder lizards specifically to release them in China and fight a ground war for the US. Considering FEV seems to have gotten _everywhere_ in the mainland US it does seem kind of likely that all the weirder shit is as a result of human intervention with some animals and evolution resulting in the few other remaining animals evolving in even more ridiculous ways than should have been possible. There’s a _lot_ of selection pressure associated with a predator like the deathclaw suddenly appearing in an ecosystem, which would also explain the lack of overall biodiversity, in-universe it’s down to hardly anything surviving a hungry lizard boi for long.

M'aiq is late.

@sheogorath2600

5 жыл бұрын

maybe next timr

@realmboy9086

5 жыл бұрын

Meaning he's early ey?

@zacpeterson1966

5 жыл бұрын

I imagine he will show up every time. He seems to now lol

@yazidefirenze

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, kitty person. Can I have a free hat?

@ifunnyuser6838

4 жыл бұрын

Not late, its called fashionably on time XD

Billy commented on how his parents are all “burned up” like him when you bring him home, meaning last time he saw them they weren’t ghouls. so either he was in the fridge for over 200 years or his parents weren’t ghoulified from the Great War, they just all happened to be ghoulified for different reasons

There is a possibility especially considering how discoloured the armour and helmets are that they were descendants of a Vault 101 exploration team that had spent a little too long time out in the wasteland and when they came back Alphonse Almodovar had just became the overseer and refused the team re-entry into the vault. The exploration finding out they can not return home and finding out the Captial Wasteland was too dangerous for lone term habitation decided to migrate to the Commonwealth that was relatively safe in comparison and was capable of subsistence agriculture

The horrifying thing is how one day you will cover all the secrets

@giantred

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, he will just keep analyzing the game files until each video just becomes most surprising lines of code you may have missed.

@shala_shashka

5 жыл бұрын

@@giantred "Not many have seen this, but if you look into the code, in this file here; Line 9910 has a typo! Shocking, right?"

"Or murdered to death" That's some good speaking words right there.

@jonragan8319

4 жыл бұрын

I think he said that by mistake at first so now he adds it in every video to seem like he meant to haha

@Veladus

3 жыл бұрын

Everytime I hear it, I think "Superboy-Prime? Is that you?"

I always assumed the connection between Covenant and Vault 101 was fairly obvious. I suspect that it was originally written to be more than just implied, with more overt references or even familiar NPCs, but for whatever reason, they changed it to revolve around synths (which, to be honest, the game did NOT need more of).

Considering Mr House hasn't left New Vegas in 200 years, he doesn't know what the east coast is like. Cats could just been a thing the entire time.

"Totally did this on purpose and didn't just res-use assets" *Forehead glitches though helmet* Loved it

@mrkiky

4 жыл бұрын

Actually that's because the camera got too close and stopped rendering the helmet. It has nothing to do with the 3d model that is still perfectly fits that guy's head.

Biggest mystery to me in Fallout: why I need key, code or bobby pin to open doors,? Why I can't use kicking, bullets, grenades, missiles or mini nukes?

@askinredroads5132

4 жыл бұрын

Pappa Kustaa strong locks. (just kidding)

@DarkCatLord

3 жыл бұрын

The doors are synths

Billy confirms in dialogue that he hid when the bombs fell

4:22 "they didnt accidentally just resuse some assets and retexture them..." Me: sure they didnt... because Bethesda totally doesnt do that at all.

Ghouls can remain motionless for a very very long time so I theorize that Billy was actually in the fridge that long but went into a state of hibernation that he only awoke from when the vault dweller makes noise and nears the fridge.

@Tendies7645

Жыл бұрын

So no one walked by the fridge since the bombs fell and woke him up?

@lionelwhiskerknot

Жыл бұрын

@@Tendies7645 Maybe a mirelurk 😀

So i got to level 50 and then did the museum of witchcraft mission and it was a albino deathclaw

@ajharhussain898

5 жыл бұрын

Scales with level

@jeremygelwicks1177

5 жыл бұрын

*YOU PICKED THE WRONG LEVEL FOOL*

@metetural9140

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeremygelwicks1177 *YOU PICKED THE WRONG MUSEUM FOOL!*

@deanhymes3330

5 жыл бұрын

Same.

@brainkiller7503

5 жыл бұрын

@Mr. Al because it rare for them to spawn even at level 50

the institute has synth gorrillas, what if those cats are synths? perfect weapon ;)

I’ve watched about 20 of your videos this week, love them!

The people at Covenant might be people who left 101 before the events of fallout 3 and the secret was covered up by the overseer and the guards

@leebrand8997

5 жыл бұрын

jeremy scungio ohhhh like some of the scouts of vault 101

@feronagy3555

4 жыл бұрын

covenant is refuge for settlers who lost their families to the institute - its explained in the compound

Cat Theory: All the cats....are SYNTHS.

@andreassweet1994

4 жыл бұрын

Cat: meow. Marda: that's something a synth would say.

"mr house is just a bit dumb" Nate, he's never even left his house since the great war how would he know? mr house just assumed they were dead because they had no way of surviving, preparing, or knowing the great war was coming

@Veladus

3 жыл бұрын

House is actually a comic book level supergenius. He's far and away the smartest person in Fallout lore. The cat thing was already established lore and it had nothing to do with their ability to prepare for the wasteland. The truth is much simpler and more disgusting. Food was in very short supply, and cats are edible. People hunted them to extinction, and cats didn't have a chance because ten thousand years of domestication taught them that humans aren't a danger, so they didn't try to evade them like they would other predators. The real answer to this non-mystery is simple: Bethesda doesn't give a shit about continuity.

The GOAT posters in the Covenant Compound are no accident; not only are they unique to Fallout 4, they're also completely redesigned from Fallout 3; they're straight-up different than the ones in FO3, not even just upscales.

Im on YT for not even 10 seconds and i see the notification Perfectly timed

@sansskeleton2786

5 жыл бұрын

As all things should be

I wish we could have joined the Gunners. That would have been a great alternative to the Minutemen.

@AdmiralAwsm

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised. Knowing Bethesda, the Gunners probably were a joinable faction, but it got scrapped due time constraints. They would've been a cool faction to join.

@giantred

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I am hoping the next FO/ES games will introduce a huge amount of factions to join to the point that when you talk to your friends about gameplay you may have a totally different experience

@MV60

5 жыл бұрын

The gunners seem more in line with the nuka raiders. They have no interest in building society up again.

@Tn-ze5ey

5 жыл бұрын

Well fallout 4 is not an rpg

@TheDarkFable

5 жыл бұрын

@@AdmiralAwsm Very unlikely. People give the Gunners way to much thought, they're just the Commonwealths version of the "Talon Company" from the Capital Wasteland. They're a war profiteering mercenary outfit designed to be "harder raiders".

Don't forget the cut Vault 101 jumpsuit. One of the reasons it probably got cut was because the model of jumpsuits differed from DC and Boston, and including it as a mere texture would be anachronistic; solved via the existence of the Creation Club custom vault utility suits but not in time for it to be canon. Another reason may have been that Covenant was already exhibiting major Vault origin vibes, and having a lootable jumpsuit either being worn, or found in a closet somewhere, would have been them basically just screaming at the top of their lungs "HEY GUYS ITS THE VAULT 101 SURVIVORS." and it feeling either underwhelming that it had no significant role to the rest of the commonwealth, or overwhelming in that there was no sense of wonder. I could go far and say that Deezer's Lemonade may even originate from an undisclosed Vault powdered drink flavoring; it could just be Crystal Lite in there, no actual substance but tons of flavor some love, some hate due to the powdery after taste, and hence why no one alive today remembers what its made of and Deezer's programming is off its rocker.

When people talk about “murdering” synths I always remember one line. “You can’t kill me, I’m not alive” - Conner; Detroit: Become Human

Atum is an Egyptian God, that’s probably why in Yu-Gi-Oh the pharaoh’s name is Atem.

@Eadwulf_Skald

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, also because another name for Atum is Tem

@justsomeguy5390

5 жыл бұрын

Temmie from undertale is secretly a god?

@rambofan334

5 жыл бұрын

I'm having flashbacks to Yami Yugi playing Fallout 3.

Bruh Nate really be out here finding new facts for us on the daily basis. What a beast

So far I've watched like 5 of your videos and I enjoyed them :) (I subscribed)

I think that part of the Covenant's prewar obsession can be caused by their synth paranoia as there were no synths then. So if some synth happen to wander into town, they would be a little confused due to the atmosphere. Of course, the residents don't live in pretend or something, but I still think that's an interesting thought.

The Gunners also greatly confused me for a VERY long time. I could not figure out why the past game's guys who sold us guns and acted as mercenary's were now still mercenary's, but also occupied locations and were acting more like raiders, killing anyone on sight and no longer ruling the gun and ammo market. Until I found out the old faction is called "The Gun Runners" and "The Gunners" are a different faction altogether, even though they wear the same combat armor and heavy weaponry, and military style. Basically a full copy of the gun runners, but as a hostile faction.

@brewmastermonk9356

4 жыл бұрын

They probably used to be the same faction but split.

@Cole444Train

4 жыл бұрын

*mercenaries

Can we stop citing Mr. House about the extinction of cats? Yes they are extinct. In the West. House has alot of extensive knowledge. Of the west. He's very disconnected from the word across the entire country, the information he has of the west does not reflect upon the East. Having an appearance in Boston =/= over running the world.

@R-YR29

5 жыл бұрын

i mean pre 2281 there was no cats, even in dc so house was right. if they were in WV in 2102, it wouldnt make sense thay arent nearby in 2277. so cats going extinct between 2102-2281 is fairly likely, with thr cat vault or something similar making a lot of sense tbh

@jimmylewis5960

5 жыл бұрын

@@R-YR29 actually him just being wrong about this would make some sense. It's entirely possible some animals go extinct in certain areas and not others. Similar to how monsters in far harbour are completely differnt to other areas. Plus fallout 76 is an entirely differnt story being so close after the war creatures being around then doesn't mean they were 200 years later. Maybe at the time of new Vegas cats in that area would have gone extinct.

@bowenorcutt78

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, true that. Like how he has NO IDEA the Brotherhood found his giant robot AND managed to get it working. Just imagine how he'd react if his and Maxson's endings ended up being canon in their respective games.

@Garinovitch

5 жыл бұрын

@@R-YR29 Apologies in advance, this is going to be a long one. I disagree, a Cat Vault makes absolutely no sense what so ever if you know Vault lore including Vault lore from the Fallout Bible. The Vaults were created as test beds for the Enclave to utilize as the Enclave had intention to colonize another planet and needed this information for extreme long term space travel. If you think about it, alot of these vault experiments start to make sense, like the vault where they use a low voltage of lights and how it'd effect our eye sight. Although the Fallout Bible isn't used by Bethesda, there are still some echos to it in Nuka-World with Vault-Tec's plans for space which would involve Enclave collaboration so the information from the Vaults would be useful. When it comes to the lack of cats in DC it makes sense, out of all the places in the US, DC got hit the worst, it's the hellish wasteland out there, the vast extinction of animals such as cats is plausible, but in places not as hostile as DC such as the Boston area along with West Virginia, the survival of certain animals is more plausible. There's lore that can't be disputed and sucks when it gets retconned, but not everything people say should be taken literally. Yes cats are extinct in the west, because it makes sense for House to have the resources to explore the West, but for someone like House to not give a shit about places outside of New Vegas and the Mojave in general, it makes no sense he'd go out of his way to comb the East to see if cats are around. He more than likely made an educated guess, the west has no cats, therefore cats are extinct. One of the core things about Fallout is that the entire world is super disconnected, even most of local areas are disconnected from one another. It's consider a herculean task for any strong faction to make long range connections, let alone travel extremely far, even the Enclave struggled with this, the Brotherhood of Steel in the East lost all connections and communications to the Brotherhood in the West. How is it that a silly mummy in bed is capable of this? Let's use another example of why we shouldn't take certain pieces of lore too literally. The Kings. In order to explain why this group based on Elvis Presley isn't blasted music by him because Obsidian wasn't able to afford to get his music added to the game, they explained that The Kings went around the place to claim all records of Elvis Presley's music and used it so much, the records and holotapes wore out and are unusable and no more records exist because of The Kings. Are we to believe The Kings traveled all over the US with little to no Military resources or transportation they were able to claim every single Elvis record? Now this might be believable for the Mojave, but it's silly to assume they combed all of the US. It wouldn't be considered lorebreaking if a future Fallout game used Elvis' music.

@Garinovitch

5 жыл бұрын

@ValorJ Omega You probably didn't even ready my comment, yeah? There is rhyme and reason why Vault-Tec has a vault do a specific and often insane experiment, and once you know their true goals, it makes ALOT of sense.

"maybe the children of Atum really have a patron from far and beyond." advertisement playing right after that: D & D BEYOND

Some of my theories: Cats: some vaults might have let cats in vaults C.O.A: They are slowly being ghoulified (we dont know how long it takes)

Theory: Godzilla exists in the Fallout universe, and may have played a major part in the destruction of the human race as we know it after the bombs were dropped. And that giant footprint in the original game was his.

@NahIdGoon

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Strittmatter Would have been cool the radiation from the bombs did indeed create a Godzilla type creature that is still somewhere in the Wastes.

About the cats, maybe the cats in certain parts of the world went extinct and that’s why Mr. House thinks they’re all gone?

@NieroshaiTheSable

3 жыл бұрын

Alternatively, Bethesda tries its best to pretend New Vegas never happened, so they don't care what Mr. House said.

@Veladus

3 жыл бұрын

@@NieroshaiTheSable thankyou.gif Bethesda is legendarily pissy and jelly over New Vegas, I could see them adding cats for the sole purpose on shitting on the lore Obsidian wrote.

"It not a mistake" they didn't wanna make new stuff. Also the goat test sign could just be a reference

@favageseline2081

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but making theories is fun and interesting and either way could be possible

I have a theory that the child Shaun you first meet in the institute is the real Shaun. When you tell nick about the kidnapping and that your child was very young at the time of kidnapping, he brings up the possibility of it being Kellogg as if it was very recent, not 50 to 60 years prior. There’s also a clearly recent trail leading from Kellogg’s old house to fort Hagen. Also, when you’re in the last scene of Kellogg’s memories, you can hear Diamond City Radio playing in the background voiced by Travis, who is clearly not over 60 years old. Why would the institute hide that from you? Probably to keep you away from the child they were using to make the gen 3 synths.

@calliecalamity8787

Жыл бұрын

The old man Shaun is clearly your kid, his skin tone changes with yours and he never breaks character of being your son, even when you destroy everything he works for. He also appoints you as the next person to lead the institute give DNA for the synths in the institute allied ending. That doesn't make sense of he's not related to you. Also, the trail you follow is new because Kellogg moved from diamond city recently. That doesn't mean he left immediately after Shaun left. Or if so, that the Shaun with him was the real Shaun. Kid shaun also *deactivates* right in Front of your eyes.

So, Yu-Gi-Oh takes place in the same universe as Fallout. Good to know.

@rangerluxray4343

5 жыл бұрын

I love it

@SportyMabamba

4 жыл бұрын

The Great War was just an episode of YUGIOH GX which got way out of hand

When billy returns to his family he remarks “you’re all burned up like me.” As if he hadn’t seen them since before all three were ghouls. I’m pretty sure that’s just a goof on Bethesda’s part.

4:29 Yes and no, They could've been old vault tec helmets but remember, Those same helmets were in med-tek so its unlikely the logo was intentional

Honestly the fridge mechanism lock thing makes a lot of sense because old fridges used to have the same form of lock and it couldn't be opened from the inside so if a kid played hide and seek in one and was never found, he died..

I am an avid supporter of the theory that The Rogue Knight is the Lone Wanderer from Fallout 3.

@thegreatcornholio5025

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of that one, but it does seem like a good one, too bad he has to die

@rhicks1337

5 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatcornholio5025 the reason I support it is The Rogue Knight can spawn as EITHER male or female

@thegreatcornholio5025

5 жыл бұрын

@@rhicks1337 yeah, seems legit.

@tomdavison1637

5 жыл бұрын

Is there any evidence for this theory if so can you say it, it is an interesting idea

@rhicks1337

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomdavison1637 there's whole threads on forum sites I've read alot of them said that the LW being good is Cannon and they would most likely desert the BoS once they went away from what Elder Lyons envisioned. And that the Canon goes out of its way to avoid saying wether the Wanderer was male or female.

I've got to be honest, that new Billy theory makes a lot more sense.

When I found that merchant selling cat meat INSTANTLY " murdered them to death" as Nate would say

The kid in a fridge for those who dont know is a double reference. The first one is the theory that you could survive a nuclear explosion by hiding in a fridge. (Just like what we saw in the Crystal Skull Movie). The other reference was that back in the 1950s it was too uncommon for kids getting stuck in fridges and dying because you couldnt open them up from the inside. So that the double reference for those that were not aware.

Covenant is probably outside “vault” +Billy is an institute agent that tests your compassion and other emotional characteristics

Different sides of the country. Why would cats going extinct on the West Coast have anything to do with the East Coast? Mr House said people ate them to extinction, otherwise they would have normally survived. Cats will definitely outlived all humans.

@CalebMealer

5 жыл бұрын

Gilhelmi plus there were more vaults on the east coast (I think), while the west coast likely had them more spread out, meaning that more people on the west coast survived outside of vaults (and likely deteriorated into more savage lifestyles). So basically...the west coast’s non-vault survivors were more numerous, and could’ve easily eaten cats into extinction. The east has more vaults and less survivors outside of the vaults, so cats would’ve survived by not being hunted as much.

@TalkingTurtle97

4 жыл бұрын

ValorJ Omega dogs are great hunters though, they would be used to catch other food, and also for great for companionship

Cats are secretly the greatest triumph of the Institute's Bioscience division. They're self-replicating synthcats, every last one of them, so perfect that they've entirely filled the ecological niche cats used to occupy.

Billies quest froze for me after I sold him to gunner for caps but then killed gunner and brought him to his parents, but his parents didn’t load in and for the rest of my game I had him following me around and I couldn’t do anything about it, imagine trying to clear a room stealthily and all you hear is “wILl YoU TAkE mE TOo mY PaREnTS”. Needless to say is I got so annoyed I no longer play my level 97 character.

I like your fridge and Quincy theory. Makes more sense

@pixystixnfairycrack

5 жыл бұрын

Except ghouls can't reproduce.. So his parents had to have been human to have had him. Which means that he couldn't have locked himself in the fridge during the Battle of Quincy since his dad has to explain to him what a ghoul is when you reunite them. So he had to have been in there long enough to not only become a ghoul himself, but his parents to turn into ghouls as well.

@peerlessthegamer

5 жыл бұрын

@@pixystixnfairycrack "He was adopted." ~Thor (Just kidding. You're most likely right. Too bad.)

@YOGI-kb9tg

5 жыл бұрын

Carlton Josephs Jr except the farther has to explain what a ghoul is to the son

@corwyncorey3703

4 жыл бұрын

it does seem though that sudden and large amounts of rads can cause ghoulification to happen.... and when I went to Quincey, there WAS a very annoying Gunner tossing mininukes around.... and those CAN cause ghoulification... so.... Quincy fight theory could yet be true... they just got hit by a lotta rads. That said, the whole family could, theoretically, all have had the same exposure through that fight and it's resultant fallout, or food, or drink, JUST before that fight broke out. they all ran, kid hid and got locked in the fridge... all three becoming ghouls at the same time... the parents knowing what it was, since they were adults, and had seen or heard of ghouls earlier in their lives... but they sheltered their kid... he'd never seen a ghoul before... Hence the father explaining it to his kid.

when you finally reveal the "kitty-comeback" theory I'm kinda disappointed it's not about the institute building synthetic cats to spy on people, but that cat-vault might explain it easier

the fact billy's been in that fridge for a couple months also explains why he's still a kid, not an adult

Love the Flamingosis in all your top 5 videos!

Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Not a single soul: Nate: *covenant orgin*

@jovenhate

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂this is what I was checking the comments for

@user-Jay178

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

18:21 - i would love to have this sound as my alarm clock.

Pretty sure taking houses words about a species going extinct is like asking a vault dweller who’s never left what a ghoul is. While he had much knowledge about what goes on in the west coast because he’s been dealing with them consistently, doesn’t mean he knows anything about what’s alive on the east coast. That would be like saying because house didn’t mention the institute, they must not exist.

The vault 101 theory always makes me laugh, because in the tech museum in fallout 3 they show the goat exam as a semi-common test in some vaults

billy in the fridge couldnt have that theory as he didnt know he looked like a ghoul until he met his parents again. so it would have been before the bombs

I'm calling it that Fallout 76 is going to get undone/removed from cannon

@ArtofLunatik

5 жыл бұрын

It should

@Tsukasa829

5 жыл бұрын

It really can't be canon. It breaks too much "established" lore.

@49mozzer

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tsukasa829 We know Vault 76's existence is confirmed from dialogue in Fallout 3s Mothership Zeta DLC.

@WinterYuzu

5 жыл бұрын

@@49mozzer but the game, itself? Nope

@Tsukasa829

5 жыл бұрын

The vault is totally canon. But technically so are all the other vaults. The game just ruins basically every other part of lore. Add in that its commercially a failure and there's no way itll be canon.

Darn it, I was going to say the Cats were synths until you blew my theory up with them being in V76 :(

I didn't even know about the covenant secret base, thanks for the info