Fake Super Mario 64 World Record Caught After 12 Years

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  • @karljobst
    @karljobstАй бұрын

    I've had some time off this month but I've got some really cool vids planned for April. Hope you've all been well. Please go and listen to the amazing series Songs of Chaos: link.michaelrmiller.co.uk/KarlJobst

  • @Nightcaat

    @Nightcaat

    Ай бұрын

    Karl Jobst in Ohio be like: I caught someone playing normally

  • @agentcairney1802

    @agentcairney1802

    Ай бұрын

    Can you do a video on the soe speedrun record

  • @microwaveoven2

    @microwaveoven2

    Ай бұрын

    April gon b gud

  • @SonnyJim173

    @SonnyJim173

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome, you are 1 of my favorite channels of all time

  • @Theomann_

    @Theomann_

    Ай бұрын

    Can never have enough Karl Jobst videos

  • @soupcake3092
    @soupcake3092Ай бұрын

    Mario, blink 2 frames early if you're in a spliced run.

  • @mcblaggart8565

    @mcblaggart8565

    Ай бұрын

    Blink and you'll miss it.

  • @frankmarano1118

    @frankmarano1118

    Ай бұрын

    Mario don't blink & tell!

  • @Austin_Red

    @Austin_Red

    Ай бұрын

    this is a hard quote 🔥

  • @ahbraveconscript997

    @ahbraveconscript997

    Ай бұрын

    It's-a-Me, Mario! [blink] [blink]

  • @TheReal64PoligonalMario

    @TheReal64PoligonalMario

    Ай бұрын

    **blinks 2 frames early**

  • @rizmkw4157
    @rizmkw4157Ай бұрын

    you either die a speedrunning hero or live long enough to see Karl Jobst make a video about you...

  • @Manstam

    @Manstam

    Ай бұрын

    Or charliebrown64 Still crazy how that holy moly guy wouldn't have been caught if he didn't have such a big head

  • @Dungeonseeker1uk

    @Dungeonseeker1uk

    Ай бұрын

    People don't cheat to get a quicker time, they cheat to get a time quicker - Karl Jobst

  • @oldg2695

    @oldg2695

    Ай бұрын

    Well said 👊✌️

  • @someoneout-there2165

    @someoneout-there2165

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @somechupacabrawithinternet8866

    @somechupacabrawithinternet8866

    Ай бұрын

    this saying is one of the dumbest ones ever, what if someone wanted to live and stay a hero? will you kill them?

  • @snowduck6365
    @snowduck6365Ай бұрын

    I really love how formal Karl sounds. For me, it feels like I'm in a business meeting and my boss is talking to me about speedrunning.

  • @charlottecorday8494

    @charlottecorday8494

    Ай бұрын

    This should be a pinned comment

  • @gerryjtierney

    @gerryjtierney

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@charlottecorday8494send feet

  • @nocturnalverse5739

    @nocturnalverse5739

    Ай бұрын

    Dude has infinite credibility. If he makes a conclusion I trust it and someone better have the receipts if they doubt it, because he always has receipts.

  • @fannaffannaf

    @fannaffannaf

    Ай бұрын

    Then your boss ends up being the best boss because he calls you an absolute legend and you KNOW your boss Karl is an absolute legend

  • @user-ol4dl9ks2o

    @user-ol4dl9ks2o

    Ай бұрын

    His accent is pretty fun to listen to, honesly

  • @LeoA05
    @LeoA05Ай бұрын

    Queenpwnsalot simp/husband or w/e: "Why is her blindfold run being looked at with the highest of scrutiny compared to everyone else?" Speedrunning community: Lets take a look at a Super Mario 64 record from 12 years ago and pay attention to the 64th frame blink.

  • @wildweasel4633

    @wildweasel4633

    Ай бұрын

    Not to mention, it was the record for only a DAY. Crazy.

  • @nocturnalverse5739

    @nocturnalverse5739

    Ай бұрын

    I know right? Some people just love the hunt.

  • @reverieofmusic436

    @reverieofmusic436

    Ай бұрын

    her simps really are some of the saddest fucking humans ever.

  • @skeletonbuyingpealts7134

    @skeletonbuyingpealts7134

    Күн бұрын

    Never doubt the power of autism

  • @abandonwareguru
    @abandonwareguruАй бұрын

    I giggle every time I see "Billy Mitchell" in the list of patrons.

  • @UndertaleFan-cx2mc

    @UndertaleFan-cx2mc

    Ай бұрын

    Lmao

  • @Connie_TinuityError

    @Connie_TinuityError

    Ай бұрын

    sometimes I do wonder who exactly it is that's using the Billy Mitchell name for patreon

  • @Soren_Pedersen

    @Soren_Pedersen

    Ай бұрын

    I didn't see that before i read this comment :P Cool easter egg, just in time for easter ;)

  • @robdielemans9189

    @robdielemans9189

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for noticing, now it will make me giggle every time I see it as well.

  • @JD_13

    @JD_13

    Ай бұрын

    ah damn, I made a comment about this, then scrolled down and saw you already spotted it 😂 Oh well, not deleting, its too funny. Maybe Billy is a fan! lol

  • @Karanthaneos
    @KaranthaneosАй бұрын

    Dude held his spliced record unnoticed for 12 years. Ghost of Tsukushima

  • @VTWS

    @VTWS

    Ай бұрын

    Tsukishima was also the name of a Bleach character who had the power to lie about the past…. IIRC that arc ended around 2012 so speedrunner Tsukishima possibly knew what he was doing lol

  • @Bleeglesplotch

    @Bleeglesplotch

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@VTWSkind of a trash power tbh... literally anyone can lie about the past 😂

  • @samakiraroyjanssen6326

    @samakiraroyjanssen6326

    Ай бұрын

    @@Bleeglesplotch yes, but when he does it, you automatically believe it... and it changes to match. if he stabbed you, and made himself your closest friend, who you told all your secrets? he knows them. every. single. one. if he strikes the ground, and made himself have been there before, setting up a trap where you're about to step? slam. the trap triggers.

  • @Bleeglesplotch

    @Bleeglesplotch

    Ай бұрын

    @@samakiraroyjanssen6326 oh okay lol, that makes more sense hahaa

  • @rory8182

    @rory8182

    Ай бұрын

    @@samakiraroyjanssen6326 so reality warping, damn that seems nearly impossible to lose with. I imagine there are limits or it is on the level of All Fiction

  • @NeoSaturos123
    @NeoSaturos12327 күн бұрын

    I love the phrase "SM64 scientist Pannenkoek". So absurd-sounding, such a perfect descriptor.

  • @MRKapcer13
    @MRKapcer13Ай бұрын

    "Looking for anomalies in the" -Splice- "audio track." I saw what you did there. I appreciated it.

  • @Zxv975

    @Zxv975

    Күн бұрын

    Omg I thought that was a production mistake and just thought "huh, Karl normally has really high standards, I wonder how he didn't notice that" and didn't think twice about it, lmao.

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969Ай бұрын

    Maybe the real cheated speedruns were the frames we spliced along the way

  • @atemoc

    @atemoc

    Ай бұрын

    Congrats, you won the internet.

  • @osheroth

    @osheroth

    Ай бұрын

    ☠️☠️☠️

  • @Marzimus

    @Marzimus

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂 Comment of the week! ☝️

  • @TheHouseOfGod269

    @TheHouseOfGod269

    Ай бұрын

    Gold

  • @NullScar

    @NullScar

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, as he ☝🏻said, you won Internet today! 😂

  • @FalseRadiation
    @FalseRadiationАй бұрын

    I see ‘Fake World Record’ , I click

  • @enjoisk8er811

    @enjoisk8er811

    Ай бұрын

    Some of the best content on youtube

  • @bartvansliedregt5482

    @bartvansliedregt5482

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed

  • @rinkincaid5470

    @rinkincaid5470

    Ай бұрын

    I see "Karl Jobst uploaded" and I click

  • @nicerhabara

    @nicerhabara

    Ай бұрын

    I see a new video by Karl Jobst, I click

  • @pass_

    @pass_

    Ай бұрын

    I see Mario's nose, I drool in arousal

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeaponsАй бұрын

    Love the word choice “ancient” for gaming context. For historians we use approximately 2000 years ago

  • @C0Assassin
    @C0AssassinАй бұрын

    I love how pannekoek is referred to as the residential sm64 scientist lmao

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    Pancace is a swenglish world. you took it from us as loan world, it is pang caca in other nanguage

  • @Katliner
    @KatlinerАй бұрын

    Cheater: You can't defeat me. Audacity: I know, but he can. Mario: *blinking*

  • @MarMaxGaming

    @MarMaxGaming

    Ай бұрын

    So true, Mario’s eyes of truth! Poetic, honestly

  • @Dishanta_Goswami

    @Dishanta_Goswami

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@MarMaxGamingThe real Lens of Truth

  • @DetectiveJones
    @DetectiveJonesАй бұрын

    I bet when making Super Mario 64 that whoever was involved with making the blinking animations thought it would just be a cool little detail that might not be noticed or appreciated. Only to have it be the key detail that exposes Speed runners decades after the games release.

  • @karlcole5617

    @karlcole5617

    Ай бұрын

    they actually probably just chose it was a simple way to do it.

  • @themr_wilson

    @themr_wilson

    Ай бұрын

    @@karlcole5617 in a cool and detailed way

  • @JamesClark1991

    @JamesClark1991

    Ай бұрын

    Am I the only one who appreciated the fact that they chose the number '64' for the amount of frames between blinks? :-)

  • @hoodedman6579

    @hoodedman6579

    Ай бұрын

    Note that there’s actually like five different types of blinking animations or something for different characters, so it seems like a bunch of people made their own separate versions, rather than one person making them all. Of course, only Mario’s are likely to be useful for checking for cheating.

  • @tobiasha93

    @tobiasha93

    Ай бұрын

    @@JamesClark1991 That's prob just because it's a power of 2 (I know the console was named after it as well - still not necessarily a gimmick but intended). Back when the game released optimizing games with small stuff like that was actually still done. Not like today where developers just ignore any optimization and expect endusers to have nasa computers.

  • @orion.6
    @orion.6Ай бұрын

    Its nice to see a sponsor thats actually good. I loved the first 2 books in the series and ill read book 3 soon.

  • @Jansenbaker

    @Jansenbaker

    Ай бұрын

    Happy to hear this series is getting out there. Didn't expect it to pop up here.

  • @Michael_R_Miller

    @Michael_R_Miller

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for reading!! Hope Defiant keeps up the pace for you :)

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    i usally scroll past that so i did not see the sponser its win wiin

  • @syndrac6254
    @syndrac6254Ай бұрын

    Bro literally got caught by the old "Blink twice if you're held against your will"

  • @TheShinyTresasLW
    @TheShinyTresasLWАй бұрын

    If shigeru has been proven to not splice his runs, and he achieved tsukishima cycle shortly after the faked run, i think we should call it shigeru cycle from now on!

  • @ryanclemons1

    @ryanclemons1

    Ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @okr765

    @okr765

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately Shigeru Cycle is already the name for a slower cycle

  • @TheShinyTresasLW

    @TheShinyTresasLW

    Ай бұрын

    @@okr765 just rename the slow one to "old shigeru" 😅

  • @Birtheater4545

    @Birtheater4545

    Ай бұрын

    You can’t just credit someone for something they didn’t discover

  • @plebisMaximus

    @plebisMaximus

    Ай бұрын

    @@Birtheater4545 tsukishima wasn't credited for discovering it either, just for being the first to hit it in a wr run. from how I understood it, at least.

  • @jnub
    @jnubАй бұрын

    its nuts how people know so much about this game that they now have an essentially bulletproof way to detect splicing based off of the player character blinking. insane.

  • @dextersdead

    @dextersdead

    Ай бұрын

    insane

  • @lajeandom

    @lajeandom

    Ай бұрын

    but wait I'm a bit confused...I understand that the eyes blink at the same exact time consistently, but what is used here is a number of frames right? But depending on the tool used for recording the speedrun in question, and final FPS rate of the video...wouldn't that affect the data? I mean an old video with very low quality is not the same FPS as a recorded video of today on OBS with high bitrate and 60 fps recording...How are they sure that the recording didn't miss a frame somewhere and therefore, that would be why the counting is off?

  • @skotiaH2O

    @skotiaH2O

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@lajeandom My guess is that the problem doesn't subsist because Mario 64 is also a very old game, but i'm not sure

  • @yourmomsboyfriend3337

    @yourmomsboyfriend3337

    Ай бұрын

    @@lajeandomvideo framerate is consistent, regardless of how old the software is. It would be simple multiplication to calculate the difference to the video’s framerate and the game’s. Video stuttering and freezing is more difficult, but you’re forgetting that the blink timer should be consistent the entire run. You could easily calculate the frames dropped during a video freeze by analyzing Mario’s movement or more consistent elements

  • @Eliholz

    @Eliholz

    Ай бұрын

    @@lajeandom iirc Drogie goes into more detail on this (linked in the description). Basically they take a 1-2 frame error into account, but it shouldn't deviate more than that even with different frame rates, especially with 60 fps being a multiple of Mario 64's 30 fps.

  • @prodfrxsty
    @prodfrxstyАй бұрын

    i’m afraid of people who can memorize frames and compare it to gameplay even if i am doing nothing wrong

  • @thomasflanagan505
    @thomasflanagan505Ай бұрын

    I'm a Show-off, I love showing off my Ability in something... the thought of faking it and then putting my performance out to the masses to see "My Achievement" makes me physically ill.

  • @EnglishTimewithMrChris

    @EnglishTimewithMrChris

    Ай бұрын

    I feel the same way. When I was playing GoldenEye on the Wii I joined a hacked match with an XP booster that leveled me up way more than I should have been. I was halfway to the top level of 56 at the time and I deleted my online file and restarted and grinded all the way to a legit level 56 lol. I have always been the type that needs to 100% a game. I replayed all of Grand Theft Auto 3 because one of the decisions I made in the game caused me to be stuck at 99%.

  • @boiledelephant

    @boiledelephant

    5 күн бұрын

    There'd be no satisfaction in it, for sure. Every time I've used cheat codes in a single player game (which is basically intended play) I just feel detached and lose all interest in the game. I guess some people just really, really need validation by any means.

  • @SpilledShelf5
    @SpilledShelf5Ай бұрын

    There's going to be a point where cheating detecting is so advanced scores from the 1800s are going to be absolutely pounded

  • @starwing1795

    @starwing1795

    Ай бұрын

    the more advanced we get at detecting, the older the runs we check are

  • @THEGRUMPTRUCK

    @THEGRUMPTRUCK

    Ай бұрын

    "Four score and seven years ago, our president, Abraham Lincoln, set this Speedrun record in Super Mario 64. Thanks to countless people sifting through old footage for thousands of hours, new technology has shown Abraham Lincoln might have faked this speedrun."

  • @MG-gt6hp

    @MG-gt6hp

    Ай бұрын

    "Mrs. Elanor Bartleby of Gary Indiana THOUGHT she could get away with cheating her 1879 potluck social pinochle score, but I SEE ALL."

  • @manga_accurate_angel

    @manga_accurate_angel

    Ай бұрын

    I wonder if it'll be harder to detect cheating in black and white.

  • @davidjsaul

    @davidjsaul

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think so, these so-called detectives just weren't there to see the run start in second gear!

  • @Neckromorph
    @NeckromorphАй бұрын

    At this point ways of catching cheaters in speedrunning has become an art in of itself.

  • @Smoove_J

    @Smoove_J

    Ай бұрын

    The amount of effort and expertise is pretty ridiculous at every level. This splicing thing sounds like something out of a spy movie.

  • @chillstoneblakeblast3172

    @chillstoneblakeblast3172

    Ай бұрын

    Forensics is a Science field after all

  • @themonsterunderyourbed9408

    @themonsterunderyourbed9408

    Ай бұрын

    Someone should speed run catching fake speed runs.

  • @tombailey1059

    @tombailey1059

    Ай бұрын

    It's almost like competitive video gaming is a waste of everyone's time.

  • @ascott7321

    @ascott7321

    18 күн бұрын

    Dat SM64 scientist.

  • @thegrossmeyer
    @thegrossmeyerАй бұрын

    Was literally thinking earlier today how I hadn’t seen a new Jobst video in a while and here is a new video! Great insight as usual, who would’ve thought the way they programmed Mario’s eye blinks would be so important nearly 30 years later!!

  • @s1a-l8r15
    @s1a-l8r15Ай бұрын

    I was waiting for when you covered this discovery, it amused me how such a small animation detail can uncover so much in the case of cheaters.

  • @Talon323
    @Talon323Ай бұрын

    Quite litereally a "blink and you'll miss it" way to find splices.

  • @densai89
    @densai89Ай бұрын

    It’s like cracking a cold case. They think they can get away but someone’s always watching.

  • @0palOpal0pal

    @0palOpal0pal

    Ай бұрын

    I'd love to see the folks who comb speedruns like this do something like investigate camera footage from cold cases. Who knows what they could notice? It'd be a little like the hackers who find missing people not only to help, but as a challenge.

  • @Ashfold_Eberesche
    @Ashfold_EberescheАй бұрын

    Man, even though I knew about this method I still watched the whole video and the 12 minutes flew by. That's why you're one of the very few channels that I'm subscribed to and have "rung the bell" so I see every video you post. I've literally watched every video on your channel and I consider it time well spent. Also, big congratulations on 1M subs - I don't remember how many you had when I initially subscribed (I want to say I remember it being sub 100k? I remember I first started watching when you did your first Doom Eternal video and then uploaded a Celeste video next and from there I was hookeD) but that's an insane milestone and you 100% deserve it. All the best from across the gap in NZ, Ashfold.

  • @BlountForce
    @BlountForceАй бұрын

    I’ve seen every video now that you’ve done in the last 3-4 years, at least within 24 hours of the upload. I love your channel

  • @GaussianEntity
    @GaussianEntityАй бұрын

    The weird thing is that Pannenkoek made the blinking video a long time ago, including the mechanics of blinking. Surprising that it took much longer to translate that into an anticheat tool.

  • @jordananderson2728

    @jordananderson2728

    Ай бұрын

    Just like with most discoveries, it's super easy to see that there's a neat new thing that you can use, but it's incredibly hard to translate that into actual use.

  • @TrianglePants

    @TrianglePants

    Ай бұрын

    YuGiOh cards that become "broken" years later, in a nutshell.

  • @Scarage21

    @Scarage21

    Ай бұрын

    I often like to say: "life only consists of simple ideas, you just need to have them". Many times a discovery feels so obvious after the fact, but before, simply no one had the idea. Like with the TM cheating scandal. We could have figured out 10 years ago that you can watch the input of a replay, but no one thought about it until someone did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @MrEW1985
    @MrEW1985Ай бұрын

    Far more sophisticated than Billy Mitchell's work

  • @thisisfyne

    @thisisfyne

    Ай бұрын

    Billy would have a fake official plaque claiming his Mario blinking is legit.

  • @jimmyrotten1652
    @jimmyrotten1652Ай бұрын

    Glad you're back. I was just checking yesterday to see if I missed anything and saw that it had been a while.

  • @Tolly7249
    @Tolly7249Ай бұрын

    Videos like this are why I love this channel so much. I learn cool new esoteric things about video games and speedrunning that I never even considered before!

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    escootric ????

  • @Rislear
    @RislearАй бұрын

    kinda funny that Drogie went out of his way to not name the cheater but then Jobst airs him out without a care in the world.

  • @MetaKnight68

    @MetaKnight68

    Ай бұрын

    as soon as I saw the Drogie video i was like "karl's gonna do a video on this and name them isn't he" and sure enough, here we are

  • @LoWsDominios

    @LoWsDominios

    Ай бұрын

    If you dont wanna get exposed for doing bad things dont do them in the first place. Plain and simple. Edit: I find fitting that if tbe record was public, the exposing should be too, regarding that It altered public records on a public competition.

  • @mandowarrior123

    @mandowarrior123

    Ай бұрын

    In Japan you get in trouble for defamation even if the allegations are true.

  • @jkazos

    @jkazos

    Ай бұрын

    @@mandowarrior123 Stuff like that makes me glad to be in the US, despite the other problems we still have. Losing freedoms makes it harder to keep from losing everything else.

  • @bomric1788

    @bomric1788

    Ай бұрын

    Not name-and-shaming video game hackers/cheaters is such empty virtue signaling. It's a video game, not SA or something

  • @ElMaxRaikkonen
    @ElMaxRaikkonenАй бұрын

    I read 12 years later My mind: ooh so 2005 Reality: 2011 Me: 😮😮

  • @huguesdepayens807

    @huguesdepayens807

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, I'm 20 not 14.

  • @caileyrookids

    @caileyrookids

    Ай бұрын

    @@williampotter3369 They were saying the run happened in 2011, not that it's currently 2011.

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    ahahahah h no you tub in 2leek5 :P there was not even xbox

  • @mrboberson7424
    @mrboberson7424Ай бұрын

    I love that the audio was cut together while you were explaining splicing

  • @damians.7859
    @damians.7859Ай бұрын

    Super entertaining video! Really clever technique, I wonder if there are any other hidden ways yet to be discovered.

  • @Deeptunester
    @DeeptunesterАй бұрын

    This is the speedrunning equivalent of genetic genealogy being used to solve 50+ year old crimes. Fascinating stuff.

  • @RandomGuy0987

    @RandomGuy0987

    Ай бұрын

    The algorithm just served me a bunch of videos about true crime and the advent of dna forensics... coincidence?

  • @hellterminator
    @hellterminatorАй бұрын

    Drogie: I'll protect the cheater's privacy and call him Hasu64. Karl: *TSUKISHIMA*

  • @LilacMonarch

    @LilacMonarch

    Ай бұрын

    I was wondering why the name didn't sound familiar. Totally forgot about the fake name thing

  • @ZenoDovahkiin

    @ZenoDovahkiin

    Ай бұрын

    I mean, I think it's fair. If you're proven beyond reasonable doubt to be a cheater, I don't think the accusation has any responsibility to hide your identity whatsoever.

  • @hellterminator

    @hellterminator

    Ай бұрын

    @@ZenoDovahkiin Oh, absolutely. And morality aside - as I commented on the original video - I think it's actually counterproductive. Making any would be harassers invest the (couple minutes of) effort into identifying the cheater makes them _more_ likely to follow through with the actual harassment. I was just tickled by the juxtaposition.

  • @BUTTNUTT69

    @BUTTNUTT69

    Ай бұрын

    It's called virtue signaling. He wants the moral high ground with no responsibility.

  • @CommandoBlack123

    @CommandoBlack123

    Ай бұрын

    Imagine not naming a cheater by their account name

  • @NickMineboom
    @NickMineboomАй бұрын

    Hi you absolute legend..I love your vids but i didnt see any outlat speedrunning videos and i think the scene there really deserves some recognitions

  • @realhojo4
    @realhojo4Ай бұрын

    Another amazing video, as usual. Thanks for the content!

  • @GregorDuckman
    @GregorDuckmanАй бұрын

    "Mario 64 Scientist" Now wait just a damn min- "Pannenkoek" P r o c e e d.

  • @napoleonfeanor

    @napoleonfeanor

    Ай бұрын

    Pancake?

  • @Platinscar

    @Platinscar

    Ай бұрын

    @napoleonfeanor It's from a meme, I think it's pancake in dutch​

  • @Liqoh

    @Liqoh

    Ай бұрын

    @@PlatinscarYeah it translates to pancake in dutch

  • @fizzybossyt8675

    @fizzybossyt8675

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Platinscarmeme? I thought that was just the name of someone involved in Mario speedrunning. Or am I misunderstanding you?

  • @Platinscar

    @Platinscar

    Ай бұрын

    @@fizzybossyt8675 maybe it's both

  • @Michael_R_Miller
    @Michael_R_MillerАй бұрын

    Thanks for helping to spread the word on Songs of Chaos, Karl! A big thank you from me to anyone who checks the books out. I really hope you enjoy them :D

  • @LachlanMiller

    @LachlanMiller

    Ай бұрын

    Great to see you are still writing. I read the Eragon books as they came out - will be checking out your new series.

  • @toastle8005

    @toastle8005

    Ай бұрын

    The moment he compared it to Eragon, I took notice, and thought ‘damn, this might actually be interesting, I haven’t read an actually great fantasy series in a while’. Then the picture came up of the servant boy wearing an eye covering like the rescued dragon, and for the first time in years, I actually clicked straight off to the product being advertised, mid-video. Screw you, in thirty seconds you’ve got me genuinely interested and the concept sounds brilliant. *I’ll take your entire 70-hour stock*

  • @theoutsiderjess4869

    @theoutsiderjess4869

    Ай бұрын

    Eragon is really good definetly checking it out

  • @Michael_R_Miller

    @Michael_R_Miller

    Ай бұрын

    @@LachlanMiller Erm I am not Paolini haha - but if you liked Inheritance you'll probably like my Songs of Chaos series

  • @Michael_R_Miller

    @Michael_R_Miller

    Ай бұрын

    @@toastle8005 well thank you! I hope you love the adventure so far

  • @absolutelysobeast
    @absolutelysobeastАй бұрын

    Dude! That Donkey Kong Country 2 music in the background was an EXCEPTIONAL choice. Talk about memories…. Thank you so much

  • @interpleb1675
    @interpleb1675Ай бұрын

    5:40: Audio irregularity in your audio irregularity. Recursion.

  • @xavierstanton8146
    @xavierstanton8146Ай бұрын

    That's crazy to me. Who would think about checking the blinking of Mario of all things to find splices

  • @plebisMaximus

    @plebisMaximus

    Ай бұрын

    Same type of people who busted another long standing cheated record in Super Meat Boy because a little animated icon in the corner was off by a few frames lol. These people care a lot.

  • @antoniob6143

    @antoniob6143

    Ай бұрын

    There are people who like to explore small details and stuff that regular people don't mind

  • @wacpj1929

    @wacpj1929

    Ай бұрын

    Same type of people who exploit parallel universes in order to optimize arbitrary game metrics. We're talking about a goddamn legend

  • @frijolitoazul4343

    @frijolitoazul4343

    Ай бұрын

    I guess this is the same as looking for any kind of idle animation on characters or ambience inside the game, except the blinking is obviously much more hidden and unnoticeable at first, but if an animation such as mario's blinking is consistent during a whole speedrun attempt then that animation should be as much bulletproof evidence as mario's blinking here, we just gotta find these animation cycles in games

  • @popdg2412

    @popdg2412

    Ай бұрын

    To be fair, Mario is always on screen so if there was anywhere to check it's on him

  • @bouboulroz
    @bouboulrozАй бұрын

    Mario blinks every 64 frames. Damn, the devs were really having fun with the hidden references. I wonder how many more values they just set at 64 in the game.

  • @kennyslg8914

    @kennyslg8914

    Ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing!

  • @shiytp

    @shiytp

    Ай бұрын

    They aren't all references. There are hardware limits in the console's 64-bit processor and they use this sequence for consistency in the programming.

  • @yourmomsboyfriend3337

    @yourmomsboyfriend3337

    Ай бұрын

    @@shiytpyes, and do you know where they got the name for the console and the game? The processor architecture. It’s still a reference. They didn’t have to put timers on the bit architecture of the CPU when this game was written in C

  • @plebisMaximus

    @plebisMaximus

    Ай бұрын

    @@shiytp My brand new Ryzen 7900X is also a 64 bit processor. It's not really all that limited by anything but clock speed and the fact it was single core. I don't believe there's anything really significant about the number 64 to a 64 bit processor that makes the code more consistent. It's probably either an easter egg just for the devs or more or less random.

  • @whuzzzup

    @whuzzzup

    Ай бұрын

    @@shiytp Yes, as we all know, the highest number is 64 and thus he can not blink any slower. /s No this is certainly not a hardware limit, lol.

  • @michelvanderlinden8363
    @michelvanderlinden8363Ай бұрын

    excellent video! Its interesting to see how far speedrunning anti-cheat detection has come over the years!

  • @FurryNonsense
    @FurryNonsenseАй бұрын

    "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"

  • @ScrubMyTub
    @ScrubMyTubАй бұрын

    Tsukishima Cycle? More like Splicer Shuffle

  • @hariman7727

    @hariman7727

    Ай бұрын

    Or Cheater Cycle.

  • @aidanhogan-thomas1797

    @aidanhogan-thomas1797

    Ай бұрын

    Just make it shigeru cycle. Call the other one old shigeru, now the guy who hit it in a run for the first time has the name.

  • @hariman7727

    @hariman7727

    Ай бұрын

    @@aidanhogan-thomas1797 that works too.

  • @huguesdepayens807

    @huguesdepayens807

    Ай бұрын

    Tsukishima shaker

  • @jonschaub7574
    @jonschaub7574Ай бұрын

    I love how you break down the cheat and the discovery methods from a technical perspective. Keep doing what you do ♥

  • @OakCityGamers
    @OakCityGamersАй бұрын

    Keep it up. I heard about this a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the signal boost on some stuff

  • @abloogywoogywoo
    @abloogywoogywooАй бұрын

    Cheaters don't deserve anything named after them. Remove Tsukishima cycle, and replace it with Blink-and-you-will-miss-it cycle. :)

  • @LilacMonarch

    @LilacMonarch

    Ай бұрын

    Like in Link's Awakening when you steal and then his name gets changed to THIEF, we should call it CHEATER cycle

  • @ProperDev

    @ProperDev

    Ай бұрын

    I'm stealing this for my next run. Love this title lol.

  • @Dr_Andracca

    @Dr_Andracca

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LilacMonarch The splice cycle works too.

  • @Dr_Andracca

    @Dr_Andracca

    28 күн бұрын

    Shorten it to the BAYWMI("bay-me" or "baw-me") cycle maybe? Also what's fucking stupid is we could just make a new category that allows for splicing together your best splits. Sure, it may not be as popular as standard runs, but I'm sure people would still be interested in being able to upload their best splits. That way failed attempts/old runs aren't just fully trashed.

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    karl is cheater too ^_^ i deserve a Pocal

  • @P_l_B
    @P_l_BАй бұрын

    What pisses me off the most in cases like this is that the guy clearly had the skill to speedrun at a high level but either got impatient or greedy. I'm sure if there was a solid system in place to easily detect fake runs speedrunning would have another big surge in popularity but sadly we live in a world where Karl Jobst delivers great vids exposing a small amount of the caught cheaters, at least we get that positive out of it.

  • @aspuzling

    @aspuzling

    Ай бұрын

    I think this has been mentioned in other Karl Jobst videos but there is a tendency for highly skilled players to feel justified in cheating because they think they have the skills necessary to achieve a record anyway. Often they will say something like "I was only speeding up the time it would take to grind to get the right RNG for WR". They think it's not cheating because they are just tipping the scale of luck rather than skill. Even in a run like SM64 where RNG is less important, you can argue that whether you get BLJ on your first try is just a matter of luck once you know how to do it.

  • @plebisMaximus

    @plebisMaximus

    Ай бұрын

    @@aspuzling I think the exact quote he's used a few times is they "Don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster", which sums it up real nice.

  • @tobiasha93

    @tobiasha93

    Ай бұрын

    @@aspuzling If I remember correctly it was in the Dream video. Definitely in a minecraft one though. They "deserve" a world record so instead of grinding the hours they reduce the grind required to get that one good RNG run. Absolutely ridiculous dogshit take but apparently it helps them sleep at night.

  • @cheetah219

    @cheetah219

    Ай бұрын

    They're basically gaslighting themselves into believing they worked hard enough to be the best when in reality they simply didn't and they took a record away from people who did put in the work. That's the worst part.

  • @Dr_Andracca

    @Dr_Andracca

    28 күн бұрын

    @@plebisMaximus I'd actually be cool with a "best splits" or a "low/no RNG" category. It'd kind of be like a set-seed thing imo. Sure, it may be more of a practice-category and probably wouldn't be as popular, but is someone setting a speed record for a split while practicing not still impressive?

  • @JackHarb89
    @JackHarb89Ай бұрын

    I on and off follow different Speed Runners, but I can't get enough of these dramas. Not especially because of the drama, but because I admire the dedication of the speed running community to come up with all these ideas to fight cheating. The depth of the knowledge is astounding. Just crazy. So inspiring :)

  • @battle00333
    @battle00333Ай бұрын

    At 10:20 with the healthbar moving you can also see the timer lingering on 36.7 just a bit longer than the other numbers. its a fraction but noticeable.

  • @illogicalJason
    @illogicalJasonАй бұрын

    “Remember, no speed runner wants to be exposed by Karl Jobst”

  • @Skoopyghost

    @Skoopyghost

    Ай бұрын

    I am not gay, but Karl looks like he works out. If anyone can expose themselves to me. It's better to Karl than out of shape old guy.

  • @urlocallazerbird8531

    @urlocallazerbird8531

    Ай бұрын

    @@Skoopyghost what the hell is this comment?! LMFAO

  • @asaasa7900

    @asaasa7900

    Ай бұрын

    @@urlocallazerbird8531 Look I mean I am gay, Karl DOES look pretty nice. Still uhh... a weird comment?

  • @whoons4701
    @whoons4701Ай бұрын

    Grats on 1 mill subs Karl!

  • @jaredbeckwith
    @jaredbeckwithАй бұрын

    Looking at spectrograms of the audio is genius! We use similar tech to detect seizures from changes in brain wave frequencies.

  • @jeverydk
    @jeverydkАй бұрын

    Massive shoutout, to actually having a sponsorship, that potentially could get some people to read a book (if they dont listen to the audiobook)

  • @Michael_R_Miller

    @Michael_R_Miller

    Ай бұрын

    Read or listen, I don't care so long as you're enjoying the story!

  • @bellermVA
    @bellermVAАй бұрын

    Just like Link is called Thief once you steal something in the shop, we should call the cycle the "Cheater Cycle" now.

  • @jonro1091
    @jonro1091Ай бұрын

    You want the truth? Just look into Mario’s eyes.

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    TETTE MIIII! MARIÅÅÅÅÅ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @StickFiguresMaster

    @StickFiguresMaster

    17 күн бұрын

    YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

  • @BobbyBlackhearts666
    @BobbyBlackhearts666Ай бұрын

    Karl, you Absolute Legend. I've started to worry, and just last night found out what you've been going through recently. I wish you the best of health and lots of time to rest up with your family! Thank you for your perseverance and work! Take good care of yourself!

  • @hlcyn7
    @hlcyn7Ай бұрын

    1:39 “Historically, the most common way to detect splicing is by looking for anomalies in the” *audio splice* “audio track.” Very smooth, Karl

  • @Rickfernello
    @RickfernelloАй бұрын

    This makes me feel a bit sad, because even though cheat finding methods have been advancing, this shows that even old scores can stick around for this long, and cheating methods themselves also advance. It's important to keep increasing standards for speedrunning and challenge running that makes cheating more unlikely. Finding that stuff from blinking is very genius, really shows how deeply runners understand the games they play. Thanks for the video!

  • @tobiasha93

    @tobiasha93

    Ай бұрын

    It's also sad on another level. You'd think before speedrunning got as popular as it is today the people actually had some sort of honor code about it. But apparently not. Cheater galore since day one.

  • @vtubersubs3803

    @vtubersubs3803

    Ай бұрын

    It's not really that genius. The way these people analyze the game it's actually shocking it took until now for someone to realize the consistent blinking could be used to detect spliced runs.

  • @mtb1392
    @mtb1392Ай бұрын

    Drogie: “I’m not going to give their name bc they’ve already been punished” Karl: “Yeah so here’s a picture of his house” 😂

  • @dafeac

    @dafeac

    Ай бұрын

    F@ck I know, I watched Drogie and I was ok with not knowing who it was, it was very wholesome of Drogie to do that, now is awkward

  • @TheMiracleMatter

    @TheMiracleMatter

    Ай бұрын

    @@dafeac It was very dumb because he didn't even hide the name properly. I could see it on his own video at approximately 4:47 iirc.

  • @sailor5853

    @sailor5853

    Ай бұрын

    It was stupid to go out of your way to protect a nickname of a speedrunner

  • @JP-st9hn
    @JP-st9hnАй бұрын

    Love these! Thanks man!

  • @GhostLyricist
    @GhostLyricistАй бұрын

    I can't believe the speed running community counts the number of blinks Mario does an entire run to confirm or deny a world record. That's some next level dedication

  • @randovidupload9422

    @randovidupload9422

    Ай бұрын

    It is actually pretty sad...

  • @jeremiah5511
    @jeremiah5511Ай бұрын

    "I did not cheat, its bOolshit! Im not a cheater, i did NAHT." "Oh hey karl jobst." *edit* I really can't believe so many of you guys know about The Room. In fact I don't BELIEVE this many people know about The Room

  • @Anon-lu6ct

    @Anon-lu6ct

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Mzero00x

    @Mzero00x

    Ай бұрын

    I understood that reference!

  • @infjmale91

    @infjmale91

    Ай бұрын

    "I lost the run to RN- Karl Jobsts".

  • @john_blues

    @john_blues

    Ай бұрын

    (Throws water bottle)

  • @Gigawood

    @Gigawood

    Ай бұрын

    Beautiful 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sachagd8796
    @sachagd8796Ай бұрын

    pannenkoek being called a super mario 64 scientist is so funny

  • @RadkeMaiden

    @RadkeMaiden

    Ай бұрын

    He literally is, though. He makes a theoretical framework for what is possible in SM64, and then be backs up his hypotheses with experimental evidence.

  • @thisisfyne

    @thisisfyne

    Ай бұрын

    because it's true

  • @LonelySpaceDetective

    @LonelySpaceDetective

    Ай бұрын

    I mean is it wrong?

  • @sachagd8796

    @sachagd8796

    Ай бұрын

    @@RadkeMaiden yeah i know that, but like calling somebody who play/create TAS for a video game a scientist will always be funny to me. I think you see what i mean, like the common perception of scientist is quite different from people like pannenkoek even though i agree that based on the definition, we could call pannekoek a scientist.

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    Tchae maybee the sort of hening employer :P he misses a detail so he is catch

  • @seltersaar3512
    @seltersaar3512Ай бұрын

    That's a first time seeing a video sponsored by a book series XD Since it has dragons in it, I definitely have to check it out.

  • @Michael_R_Miller

    @Michael_R_Miller

    Ай бұрын

    I appreciate that! Thank you and I hope you enjoy them :D

  • @Seikent
    @SeikentАй бұрын

    Congrats on reaching the 1M subscribers milestone!

  • @ki11m3please325
    @ki11m3please325Ай бұрын

    YAY!! Just noticed the 1 million. You deserve every single one of them with your hard work. Gratz man!

  • @CriticalNobody
    @CriticalNobodyАй бұрын

    It's always fascinating to see how the smallest detail snowballs into the complete deconstruction of a record. Also hope you're doing well after the surgery Karl!

  • @robin13090
    @robin13090Ай бұрын

    Love the video as always ❤❤ please Karl i beg u stop putting thé light on cheaters ! M'y favorites videos of you are Always the Legends that legitimately go above and beyond.. especially the Dooms WR ❤❤❤

  • @krievv
    @krievv26 күн бұрын

    Wait that's actually kinda cool how actual books are giving out sponsors. At first I thought it was just an audible ad lol.

  • @doodle1565
    @doodle1565Ай бұрын

    Here to feel like an absolute legend

  • @Anon-lu6ct

    @Anon-lu6ct

    Ай бұрын

    I’m feeling it now 🧽

  • @Anon-lu6ct
    @Anon-lu6ctАй бұрын

    This is shocking with someone who was supposed to be a foundation for SM64 speed running

  • @OCDistic
    @OCDisticАй бұрын

    I’ve been scratching at my arms and pulling my hair waiting for Karl to throw more videos out. These are like Crack, please post more 😭

  • @PianoCinematix
    @PianoCinematixАй бұрын

    They should change the name to "blink cycle," lol. Great video, as always, mate. Thank you.

  • @cubinator3826
    @cubinator3826Ай бұрын

    12 years without getting exposed is crazy.

  • @TheMiracleMatter

    @TheMiracleMatter

    Ай бұрын

    At least Truth and Justice *eventually* caught up to him.

  • @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    @miljororforsprakpartiet290

    19 күн бұрын

    not really it is getting diffisylt because all run is now the same . and all may be splicing so they cant shame one without getting banned themself

  • @cubinator3826

    @cubinator3826

    18 күн бұрын

    @@TheMiracleMatter yeah

  • @PopADoseYo
    @PopADoseYoАй бұрын

    Always look forward to a video from Karl!

  • @AlexandraSpeaks
    @AlexandraSpeaksАй бұрын

    hope your recovery is going well Karl

  • @jacksonzander6024
    @jacksonzander6024Ай бұрын

    I appreciate the splices when explaining how to detect splicing

  • @SunnyTacos
    @SunnyTacosАй бұрын

    I love watching these videos, they are so informative, I love speedruns but I don’t speedrun myself because I lack the skill and patience, but even after watching hundreds of these across the years I still cant really tell if a run is fake or not, it amazes me to see how the community is so dedicated and talented to notice even the smaller details, thanks a bunch Karl you always tech me new stuff.

  • @BarelyRunning
    @BarelyRunningАй бұрын

    Congratulations to 1 mil subscribers. Always enjoy your videos.

  • @slowestbro1353
    @slowestbro13533 күн бұрын

    I really like that you were sponsored by a specific like book series. That's so cool

  • @junglekun22
    @junglekun22Ай бұрын

    Was not expecting a pannenkoek name drop here but hell yeah I’m glad people are discovering him.

  • @xdx1990
    @xdx1990Ай бұрын

    Grats on the 1M subs, stoked for you man.

  • @Caydiem
    @CaydiemАй бұрын

    Yo, welcome back, Karl. I was starting to miss your videos.

  • @Arathrum
    @Arathrum10 күн бұрын

    the level of commitment, expertise, investigation and detail of your videos (and the entire community) never ceases to amaze me. i always had great admiration and fascination for speedrunners and never realized how deep some of these rabbitholes go. even for legitimate runs, so let alone the cheating part of things. thanks for the outstanding content. you have an extremely well balanced format (in all of your videos) that goes into the lore, detail and history to the point it's understandable for anyone with hardly any prior knowledge like myself.

  • @zipixx
    @zipixxАй бұрын

    I rarely ever click on ads, but you got me here. Good sponsorship choice. Never had an audible subscription. Starting the Ascendant audio book right now. Cheers!

  • @luke2806
    @luke2806Ай бұрын

    in the current online landscape of streaming and pro gaming being a highly popular and financially lucrative thing, cheating in a game is like robbing a bank with no possibility of jail time. bad people can just cash out big time by being fake (and they are) and theres probably a LOT of people on twitch and youtube cheating right now. some of the biggest creators have been caught cheating, and even in huge tournaments theres people caught cheating.

  • @bunnygirl8
    @bunnygirl8Ай бұрын

    whilst it makes sense it was just forgotten due to how short it lasted and such, i do find it interesting this record wasn't mentioned at all in summoning salt's 16 star video, where he specifically said he wouldn't mention cheated runs, yet it of course wasn't known as cheated at the time

  • @fabioalvesshow
    @fabioalvesshowАй бұрын

    Love your content Karl

  • @TaranAlvein
    @TaranAlveinАй бұрын

    Wow. It's amazing what simple details go overlooked for so long, only to become important later.

  • @GarfieldsToes
    @GarfieldsToesАй бұрын

    Can't wait to see more! Another great video!

  • @BladeCrossEXE
    @BladeCrossEXEАй бұрын

    My friends, it just keeps happening- Wait, wrong speedrun channel.

  • @JW-qd3ol
    @JW-qd3ol25 күн бұрын

    This is awesome!! I love the thinking outside the box!

  • @xSimone92x
    @xSimone92xАй бұрын

    Missed you, Karl! Great video!

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