"I Love the ethics but at this price point there are too many compromises." Is there a better sentence to sum up the worlds economy and society?

@EnhancedNightmare

4 жыл бұрын

I would prefer to spend a little bit more and get better cam and maybe metal construction.

@kostyantynpivnenko4188

4 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@timeshiftedprios5564

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@timeshiftedprios5564

4 жыл бұрын

@Erik Its a good idea, thats what I've been doing to reduce waste, but most phones you'll end up buying when they're already 1-2 years old, and get a year or so, to actually use it before its done for good. Plus, that wouldn't encourage the manufacturers to be more sustainable.

@eaplus

4 жыл бұрын

This is what a phone would cost without exploiting nature and fellow humans. Just too expensive isn't it? All lives matter,... well most lives,... well some.

Fairphone does have its quirks. However, comparing it to other phones at the same price point is absolutely unfair. The costs that you 'save' on fancier phones are externalized using cheap labour, conflict minerals and other unfair practices by unfair brands. In other words, you pay 450 for a Fairphone to support proper work conditions for workers and fairtrade minerals. I have the FP2 since ages and it's far from perfect. Yes, I too joke that my Fairphone is fair to everyone but me. But it works fine and I'm happy to support the cause.

@-kyoko-7742

4 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me what you think of the battery? I'm using my phone quite often and I am wondering how the battery is and if it gets worn-out easily. And can I simply change the battery when it's worn-out?

@-kyoko-7742

4 жыл бұрын

I know he said you can just replace it, but.. I don't know.. maybe I just cannot belive it XD

@myhomexmyheart

4 жыл бұрын

@@-kyoko-7742 can only speak from experiences with the fp2 but you can easily replace the battery there.

@ereder1476

3 жыл бұрын

i don't care about the fairness. the increased price of the fairphone can only be explained through it's modularity. Work condition etc are not something that you see on pricetag anyway, they only change the net marging a company can make. they use cheap labour to get bigger margin. not to sell it cheaper. In tech the price at witch anything is sold have nothing to do with it's production cost . It's all about how much are you ready to pay

@Lumcoin

3 жыл бұрын

@@ereder1476 Have you ever heard the term "economy of scale"? They are a small company and sell not that much phones (at the moment about 100k per year), which causes the price to be this high. The actual plus for fairness, ecology and modularity is on the order of magnitude of maybe 20 €, the rest is bad economy of scale

Oh boy! I think you really missed the point of this phone. Yeah, sure you can have a review like you would on any other phone, fair enough. However, the people who buy this phone will ask, is it good enough, rather than does it have all the meaningless high specs that all the flagship phones have where the phone last between 1,5- 3 years because of intentional design flaw to make people buy a new phone more often. This is a phone that will do for >90% of the people. But why should people buy it, apart from "it will do"? They should, because every other phone is trash in human rights, human dignity and company transparancy. This phone changes lives for the labourers. So you put yourself in a very bad light bitching about the price compared to performance, "bad camera" and an "ugly" phone. I'm no post-modernist, but that's preferrence, also real beauty comes from the inside, here that's the fairness for the workers. If you really loved the principles and the fairness, as you said, you would say nothing about the price. You are simply not prepared to pay the fair price for fair work, sadly. Thanks for reviewing the phone, though! One of the few who has.

@Darkest_matter

4 жыл бұрын

Xperias and Iphones actually seem to last pretty long. the irony is nokia phones are the worst these days. i have a Nokia 5 and it's ludicrously slow, the camera is garbage and it's a pain to use. meanwhile xperia z1 is still quick and iphone 7 holding up really well. (though it needs a new battery, which i can change in about 20 minutes.

@larskristianreinertsen

4 жыл бұрын

@@Darkest_matter ​ , maybe you can change your iphone battery in 20 minutes, however this is not the case for most people. Fairphone makes battery change an operation that anyone could do in less than a minute without any risk of damage to the phone, no screws, no adhesive, no tools. And that used to be the standard. Also the newer the iphone, the less repairable it is. Apple has already lost in court after they intentionally made the old iphones slower with a software update. If your iphone works after two years it's a happy accident, since the iphone is made to break (after 1,5-2 years). Apple doesn't wish for their phones to last long, who would buy their new annual phone then?

@Darkest_matter

4 жыл бұрын

@@larskristianreinertsen yeah, i know planned obsolescence too well... iphone 3g when iphone 4s came out and no app was supported anymore, windows phone haing no apps, same thing happened on android too, had a motorola

@larskristianreinertsen

4 жыл бұрын

@@Darkest_matter , yeah, it sucks! Hopefully we'll see the end of that now.

@orca_ah

4 жыл бұрын

That's very well said bro, but don't be too aggressive about it, but i am on your side

This really puts things into perspective Like, are we really going to be like "nah, I can't deal with having no telephoto lens" and just keep giving money to companies who pay their factory workers pennies on the pound for their work?

@darknessviking

4 жыл бұрын

aha interesting hmm

@viikable

3 жыл бұрын

That is how we have always been this far. The question is are we going to stop being like that.

@niesson9456

3 жыл бұрын

That's true, apparently the price for photos people like to post on fb to look like great photographers and get likes to boost their ego, all speculation btw, Is the undervaluation underappreciation, overworking, underpaying, sweat blood and tears, And dignity Of people who only saved up to own a phone that's from 2000 so they can call in sick to work, or family emergency when it happens, so thry don't get a pay cut, So they can get their kids to college, or even just have a decent meal or life. Meanwhile, Mother Nature and Her Children all suffer from supposedly educated and successful people easily, heartlessly, carelessly and irresponsibly disposing of products whose materials they don't even know or care are toxic, all into landfills and the oceans, With the same shrug attitude as thry kept replacing phones, As if "I paid for this. It can kill whatever it wants." "I paid a metricfuckton to kill the earth! How dare you make me feel awful about it, and force me to think and feel about things!"

@VaunShiz

3 жыл бұрын

99.9% of the tech industry says nahhh what % of the smartphone industry does tera cube have ? I think that will be your answer lol

@WetaMantis

3 жыл бұрын

Who uses his camera everyday anyway? If you do just buy a quality mirrorless camera, it will be well worthwhile since you are a heavy user. Also you will get way more value for your money than buying a midget sensor with a midget lens from a 1000$ phone camera.

I have to say this review is not on point. Fairphone never declared their phones was the most technically advanced or had best "price vs specs" ratio. They are actually trying to change the industry by ending unethical labor and environment practices. If you judge only by price and specs then of course you'll be better off bying next Chinese gadget made in a sweatshop with toxic materials and unsustainable operations

@matthewyabsley

2 жыл бұрын

I know this is a bit of a Necro post but when it runs old software and the app providers don't support it after a period of time it makes little difference how much longer the phone lasts. It's still going to be toast in the same period of time.

@PeymanOwladi

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewyabsley That's why they support out with upgrades for longer than other manufacturers. (It currently runs Android 11 I believe.)

All I’m hearing is “the performance just isn’t good enough for me to stop wanting children in the Ivory Coast mining gold for me”. I’ve just bought a fairphone, upgrading from an iPhone 5s which I kept as long as possible, and sure I’d like a top-notch camera in my phone but it wasn’t so long ago that the fairphone’s camera would have been considered top-notch! Plus, more importantly, my wants are not more important than other people’s lives.

@rosiejones6692

4 жыл бұрын

Hey! I have an iPhone 5s and I'm upgrading because it's finally starting to give up on me. How are you finding the Fairphone 3?

@Jay-jn6ul

4 жыл бұрын

Rosie Jones It's great! Feels a lot bigger than I'm used to coming from a 5s, but it's actually slightly narrower and lighter than an iPhone 11 so I guess that's just what's in these days 🤣

@neskac5257

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same position here, I'm about to make a switch as my iPhone 5s is ready to give up. What do you think of the camera quality in comparison to the iPhone?

@Jay-jn6ul

4 жыл бұрын

Neska C compared to the iPhone 5s you mean? It's better :) Compared to the iphone 11 I don't know but I would guess worse

@neskac5257

4 жыл бұрын

Anto Ryan was just wondering about the 5s, thanks very much!

The price is perfectly reasonable, that's what you have to pay for ethically sourced components. I hope fairphone keeps doing these. Each iteration seems to get better as far as specs and price against current midranges. Thanks for reviewing and being honest and unbiased about how the phone performs. People here in the comments seem to be not very happy about the price vs specs ratio, but people have to understand that this is a small company making this phone from ethical sources. I'm amazed that the price is this low to begin with.

@DemonZest

4 жыл бұрын

not sure it is perfectly reasonable, it is still inflated because of low demand and they know the targeted consumers have the money.

@Cookie-jb3xd

4 жыл бұрын

This thing is just trash for today's standards

@tobiasr1267

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cookie-jb3xd im still rocking a S5, but i started getting random restarts. I absolutly do not need stronger hardware, so would this be a good replacement?

@paspartu2453

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cookie-jb3xd Can you concretely explain to me which one of those standards of yours these equipment doesn't fulfil?

@paspartu2453

4 жыл бұрын

@@DemonZest "it is still inflated because of low demand and they know the targeted consumers have the money" that seems to be perfectly reasonable acording to the so cal "market principles", or do you expect them to work out of his boundaries?

Wow, seeing a replaceable battery in a phone again is very refreshing since I suffered the dreaded battery death in my Nexus 6P

@TechSpurt

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely giving me serious flashbacks...

@Darkest_matter

4 жыл бұрын

couldn't u open it up and replace it?

@JaredD

4 жыл бұрын

Thats not battery death its emmc failure and its a official lawsuit go check it out.

@cyril4892

4 жыл бұрын

replaceable battery should be a standard

@paspartu2453

4 жыл бұрын

@@cyril4892 Replaceable items, modular design and third party components licensing should be the standard of those who so much praise free market competition.

I wish they explored the modular aspect of it more, buying this body for one year and upgrading the board/ screen/ battery per year is a really fun concept, and helps reduce e-waste even more

@Nibb31

4 жыл бұрын

This is where they really miss their goal. I could live with the rubbish camera or the below-average CPU or the small battery if they were really upgradeable. The Fairphones are designed to be easily serviced and upgraded, yet they never release any actual upgrades, which makes the whole concept a bit pointless.

@tobiasr1267

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nibb31 its to bad that this concept only works with a high number of phones out there. If the market would be big, there would be enough demand for different components, maybe a configurable Fairphone. Best case, even with competitors using the same modular interface. the sales are just to low right now, so any customization would further increase the prices too much

@maceshinoda13

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nibb31 For their last phone they gave the option of an updated camera and they also said this phone would benefit from an upgradeable camera, too.

The external plastic panel is the best part, ad it doesn't break as easily as the hyped glass you pay an arm and a leg on major flagship cap

This guy wants a fair phone but doesn't want to pay a dime extra to contribute to the fair labour and other practices. He says he loves the ethics behind it but his conclusion shows he really doesn't care

@VaunShiz

3 жыл бұрын

No one cares , just look at apples sales every year lmfao

@megwhite6295

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I think this is true for most people, they say they care bc it's not really socially acceptable to say you don't care and it makes you look good to say you care but when it comes down to it and they actually have to change something about their lives they just won't do it, and that's why our planet is in the state it is, and only continues to get worse!

@LuckyStrikeLT

3 жыл бұрын

"I love the etchics...as long as they're cheap"

@kingdavidthesecond7446

3 жыл бұрын

No one should care.

@kingdavidthesecond7446

3 жыл бұрын

@Giacomo Campanelli not really they do ba labor practices . Research it Little kiddo .

Heard about this companies ethics, but came here to see what the phone actually performed like (unlike everybody else here who just wanted to hear you speak about how sustainable their business model is). Thank you for showing clearly the pros & cons of the hardware itself, as a tech channel should.

To echo other commenters, you totally missed the point of this phone. You should have weighed that into the review. Also, the title doesn't make sense in the context of what you're reviewing.

@sweetwheatsy

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed; by that tagline I'd have expected a comment on some insider-knowledge regarding how the materials perhaps aren't sourced ethically enough or the Fairphone company are keeping some facts hidden - but this moreso just seems like a smart tag to get clicks.

@johnbull5394

3 жыл бұрын

@@sweetwheatsy Or a play on words? 'Fair' has multiple meanings, including 'good enough'. He seems to think it is sub-par, so not 'fair'.

Oh. So you've just learned that unethical practices cost less money than ethical ones. :) Wow. Sarcasm set aside, I do believe that the FP3 (and I've had the FP1 and 2) is a great phone very much worth the value given the effort they give in designing a phone that is more ethical. But of course, if you don't care about ethics, slavery, war and other stuff like this, then this phone is obviously not for you.

@georgegould6746

4 жыл бұрын

I do not care about ethics slavery or war, gimme the new iPhone 12 pro max 5g when it releases- I wanna smell those carbon emissions. Mmmmmm

@BoredWave

3 жыл бұрын

may I ask why you ditched your fairphone 1 and 2? isn't the purpose of this phone that it can last very long and if something breaks you can just replace that specific part? If you a re buying the new model everytime then the "enviromentally friendly" aspect of the phone gets cancelled. I mean you still have the fact that it is ethically made. But, I was just wondering why you bought all of them. were the old ones bad and non repearable or you just wanted better specs? I am asking because I am considering to buy one.

@jytou

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoredWave Simple question. Not-so-simple answer. To be honest, the FP1 was not so great. It was slow, and most of all it was getting hot like hell. I dreaded summer, especially with these last year's heat waves. It so happens that I was able to buy both the FP2 and the FP3 using a money system called “libre money” which started to get quite active in France - basically we create our own money rather than depending on the banks. I wish this initiative would spread to other countries. Buying a Fairphone with Fair money, isn't that everyone's dream? Well, maybe not Apple Explored's... :D So although they did cost me a lot of “libre money”, I could afford it because I had quite a lot from other sources, whereas it would have been more difficult for me to buy it in euros - not that it isn't worth the money, but simply because of some personal circumstances at that time. BTW I sold the FP1 in libre money as well to someone who couldn't afford that kind of phone in euros. The FP2 was quite good and my wife finally took it when I got the FP3, she wasn't happy with her phone at the time, and the FP2 did suit her. Frankly the FP3 is very good, obviously pricier than its Chinese equivalents, but if you do care about ethics, it is a great phone. Just don't expect to get 5 cameras, there are only 2 (but they have put quite a good effort toward the back camera which is now quite decent, the FP2 was clearly lacking in that area). It seems to me that the FP1 and FP2 were prototypes (the 2 less than the 1), and you can recycle them with the company, but I believe the FP3 will last longer. They made a FP3+ with better camera resolutions, if you care about that. I could actually upgrade it by simply buying the upgraded camera component (60€), but the current one is enough for me.

@BoredWave

3 жыл бұрын

@@jytou ok thank you for your answer. May I ask how long you have the FP3? The thing is I do care about the environment and the ethical aspects of it. My last phone was just a second hand phone given from my mother because she just wanted a new one... shame, but I decided a year ago that I only want to buy second hand since a lot of people are overconsumers and I wan't to counter that. But I am also very worried about the privacy aspect. Which is why I don't want to use chinese phones anymore even if they are second hand. I am thinking of buying a fairphone but to be honest if it doesn't last long and is still in a prototype fase I don't want to buy it. I don't complain about the price, but I am a student, and I am very concious of the environment and if it is just another phone to through away quickly I don't think it's worth it. although I appreciate the ethical aspect of it. I would prefere to keep buying second hand.

@jytou

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoredWave I totally get your concern. I don't plan to change my phone anytime soon (except if it breaks beyond repair of course). I'm happy with it and by my standards it has definitely passed the prototype stage and I don't have any problem/concern with it. But that's only my opinion. It all depends on what you wait for in a phone and that is a very complex set of characteristics. :)

How is the speakerphone on a call? Does it echo? Does it pick up your voice well from a distance? How is cellular signal?

6:14 uhm what on earth happened with her shoe?! It's disappearing!

Any idea about the shutter speed min and max, and ISO ?

Maybe the problem is thinking that we need to be able to take pictures with our phones? Or play games on it? The Bluetooth issue should get fixed, but the other two? Also, the price point: what if had to pay the actual costs to the environment, communities, people with every phone? How much would they then cost?

@jaywilliams720

3 жыл бұрын

i agree with you. i recently bought an old gopro 3 and it takes really nice photos for what i want and it's small enough to always carry, not to mention it will almost drfinitely outlast my current phone. i really hate the idea of an all in one unit as it just seems to cause problems and complications. i will definitely look into this phone once my current one dies.

How long will it last if you can repair it tho?

can you make a review with the SHIFT5me from shiftphones? It's kinda a german version of the fairphone 3. I ordered the SHIFT6mq, but that's another price class.

THIS IS MY NEXT PHONE!!

@David199701

4 жыл бұрын

Cute haha. Me to though! But I'm waiting for my current phone to die (you can have a price reduction if you give them your phone for them to recycle it).

@kajakol2344

4 жыл бұрын

Are you happy with it? Im considering buying one

@TrueNorth1970

4 жыл бұрын

I'm looking to get one next month too :)

does this phone have a blue light filter?

we know it's not gonna be the best phone but that's not the point. i think you would have done better to talk a bit more about why people should buy this phone, like how long you'll get software updates and parts

@danjackson2014

4 жыл бұрын

They dropped their 1st phones updates after just 3 years....

@burnzy3210

3 жыл бұрын

@@danjackson2014 that's not great but in the realm of android phones, that's actually ahead of the competition

@VaunShiz

3 жыл бұрын

So you pay extra for a crap phone to get 1 extra year of updates lolol

@Anna133199

3 жыл бұрын

@@VaunShiz No, not for a crap phone, just mediocre, and most importantly for fair labour circumstances. And they'll provide updates for five years for the third phone.

@borto4781

3 жыл бұрын

@@danjackson2014 Well yes but now the fp2 is at 5 years of support with Android 9

Great review, any change of a fairphone 3 plus review?

6:11 What happened to her feet? Shutter not fast enough to capture moving object?

My only complaint from this video was that I was expecting a review on how fair the phone is, as implied by "Not Fair Enough" in the title, and I got a feature review instead. A good one at that, though!

What frustrates me is that they don't have any shops anywhere in the UK where you can try the phone out as far as I know? Not even in London....

@Karlijn2

4 жыл бұрын

i had it with the Google Pixel 3a i want to try out. Fairphone is originally Dutch and is distributed in Europe. It's a phone that is not found in every physical store in the Netherlands. Only limited stores.

Unfortunately I think it might be fairer to only buy 2nd hand phones and use them until they really don't work anymore. At least my 2nd hand S7 doesn't have annoying bugs.

@TechSpurt

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, have to say that's the better option

@elisroberts-jones8903

4 жыл бұрын

My s7 recently died😭

@some0ne278

4 жыл бұрын

While buying second hand is better short term, in the long run i think it's better to buy from Fairphone to support the company. If enough people buy from them they'll become popular and they can afford to make investments to lower the price and improve the device. Also other companies will see that there's a market for fairer phones.

@etherspin

4 жыл бұрын

Im glad for you but kind of surprised, did the first owner have the AMOLED screen replaced at some point? my S2, S5 and Note 8 all had keyboard and status bar + news logos burnt into the screen before 18 months ownership, AMOLED seems like the nightmare for the 2nd hand market?

@maxarendorff6521

4 жыл бұрын

How's a second hand phone going to help where the battery is almost dead and you can't replace it yourself because it's glued shut?

question is for how long can you use it cause planned obsolescence is real for the operating system too

@farishanafiah8461

3 жыл бұрын

Even Fairphone 2 can receive Android 9.0 Pie update despite being a 2015 phone shipped with 5.0 Lollipop out of the box, so that does tell something.

You've got a bunch of awesome wallpapers, any references as their sources?

would love to see the 3+ (and your thoughts on how you can update the camera on the 3) - I know it's not high on specs for the price but I still consider everytime I'm thinking of a new phone because I love their entire ethos/mission.

Sky Mobile is an option in the UK as well. They also do the Fairphone 3 @ I think its £21 a month to go on their network. Its also £15 a month to get it sim free from them as well.

I wouldnt mind the comprimise for the leval of repairability you get in exchange.

Given the purpose and features of the phone it seems counter intuitive to base a review of it on the exact same specifications of other previously covered phones that are based on the same ethos of price based on market forces and planned obsolescence. By its very philosophy and design, it will come to be more expensive for the same quality/lower quality for the same price at best. At worst it will be lower quality specs at a higher price. It simply cannot compete with other phones that do not take an ethical approach. This is precisely the point that the format of this review misses. Despite this, the review could have still been decent had it detailed the modular design and available components, however it failed to do so. No attention was given to components other than the removable battery. Worse, the review talked about its chunkiness as a con but didn't explore the modularity that caused this design feature. Lastly, what also wasn't mentioned was the ease of changing operating systems to niche *nix OS's. This would impact a tiny proportion of total smartphone users and only a slightly larger proportion of fairphone users but impacts a sizable minority of those who use alternative OS's outside Android and Apple. To conclude what has turned into an essay, the price of the fairphone will always be above competetive market rates as the market rates are based on an exploitation of labour in developing countries, through material extraction, processing and assembly. As such, the price point will be a selling point to those who choose to buy it for ethical reasons. The modularity of the phone also offers an alternative to the planned obsolescence rampant in the embedded systems industry. Based on these factors, the fairphone is not suited to the same format of review that the other phones you review are. Because of this, I think this review could benefit from a re-edit/further exploration of the fairphone. I would also like to thank you for covering it in the first place though, as it is not widely covered by tech content creators. TL: DR; The format of the review does not lend itself to the fairphone line of phones' philosophy and feature set and thus there should be a reformatted review to better showcase the pros and cons of the product line. In my opinion.

@orca_ah

4 жыл бұрын

Very well written!

A fair review for a fairphone. In the end, I feel it depends what your personal requirements are. One thing you didn't mention (unless I have got it wrong), it is a dual SIM phone so you can keep your business and personal calls separate and you can ignore work calls during your private time.

Will you review vivo phones?

Hey sir is it okay to buy honor and Huawei phones today? Will they get a software updates?

6:15 Why is the bottom of her foot invisible?

i think i will buy this as my next phone :) and i realy love this design ;)

Didn't expect to see pictures of my hometown in this video! When did you come to Hastings?!

Still on my 1st generation Google Pixel - going strong in its 6th year. Had the battery replaced for £40 last year in a couple of hours by a local phone repair shop. They even lent me a spare phone whilst they did it. I'm going to see if I can get 10 years out my Pixel before getting a more ethically produced and sustainable phone 😊

Hey I'd love pie I've been stuck on this OREO since I bought the LG stylo 4

I got a Fairphone ad in this vid *Nice*

Been considering jumping the apple ship to the fair phone but I think I will wait until they produce a four or five version.

Explicit content in Netflix ( Witcher garden scene ). Just thought I'd give you a heads up in case that scene pops up again on a much larger AMOLED Quad HD display in future reviews xD

I've been using iphone from the start, now I have ordered this phone (2nd substituion) because I'm convinced about the idea from this kind of business

I would offer you a bit of 💵 for the 📞 but I was given a Oneplus 3T with broken screen not so long ago. Replaced the screen myself and, voila, basically a similar phone with (after recycling) a comparable impact on the environment. Must say I like the FairPhone's repairability though! 👋

Well, 64 internal memory is to little - I'm thinking of getting another LG V20 phone as my resources is low and I might be able to get one cheap and it has the same issue of only 64 GB.

@Karlijn2

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you do with your phone. I still seem to go by 16 GB internal storage and 8 SD.

the little girl on the swing's boot blends in with the background as if its photoshopped lol 6:11

@mathiashenderson4288

4 жыл бұрын

It's probably HDR, takes multiple photos and complies them into one. So somethings are 'ghosted' out in the merging process.

@Chris47368

4 жыл бұрын

That's what you would call a glitch in the matrix! 😂

It is expensive because of all the effort they have to put in making the components modular. They have to buy them off the shelf (no way you are going to build your own CPU's) and have to then make them fit in an easy to remove module. That also takes up more space so building a modular phone while keeping the body thin and the bezzels slim is nearly impossible

The important thing to me is that it doesn't use Concentration Camp labor like Apple now does.

Hey! Will you review the Fairphone 4? :)

Back when the GPO was having its hardwired landline phones made in the UK, a GPO 706 (dubbed the 'modern telephone'), cost the Post Office around £350 in today's money, so I am informed. So the lack of sweatshops does come at a price. So the cost vs features argument may not be fair to apply to a smartphone which is bound to cost a lot for performance compared with unfair phones, but it's right to make the point. If, say, you need a camera to document something indoors for work purposes, and the Fairphone isn't of use indoors, it is not a serious option. You either need a higher spec Fairphone, an unfair phone that works, or you give up on the phone camera idea altogether and try to find an ethical standalone camera. However, you have made some very good points regarding glitches and ergonomics. Getting these right shouldn't cost more. When a smartphone fails to work, you may as well not bother with a smartphone at all.

Hey, thanks for your awesome reviews - any chance you can take a squizz at the Fairphone 5 and give us a rundown on this new tree hugging handset please??

Ahahaha this really puts in perspective how silly the priorities of the consumer tech world is.

What makes this a revolutionary idea is the same thing pc building has become more popular over the years. Being able to replace and upgrade parts is what makes it more unique. A fully modular phone let's people see what's inside their phones and how to replace parts without the need for a repair company or warranty if something small breaks

cool review, but maybe you could fix your sound for the next one? cheers!

Would be interesting to get a review on sustainable systems such as iodéOS blocking ads&trackers!

Stepmum bought one, it has constant issues with the camera and screen.

Please make a review of the fairphone 3 plus!

The camera sensor looks really good, although I think that it don't has any AI at all.

The Fairphone has the same camera sensor as the Google Pixel 3 and 3a which are known to have good a camera - but it doesn't have Google's software. That shows how much computational photography matters.

@haraldschiner6837

3 жыл бұрын

No problem at all. Download the Gcam Mod for the Poco F1 Phone (it's a APK file, simple to install, you don't need to "hack" or root your phone. Do a google search for "fairphone gcam xda" for more information, download links and sample pics. This mod works 100 % flawlessly and turns your Fairphone 3 into a genuine Pixel 3 in the photography department (including Nightmode, Google Lens, etc.).

instantly getting an ad for fair phone

It is a step in the right direction....an alternative that doesn't seem to be altogether useless. This phone is almost there in terms of puting up very good competition. I wonder if this phones development is at or near cross roads where modular integration for upgrades would enable a more personalised phone. Since it has the old style accessible battery, why not go the next step and have upgradeable modules such as: processor, camera, ram, blue tooth and appearance etc. Upgrading the batteries storage capacity is a cinch.

Samurai Champloo wallpaper, man of culture

@TechSpurt

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, good spot :)

I think the Price is interesting, because you actually have to pay the workers a living wage, control that everything is sourced sustainably, and being a small company you simmply dont have the economies of scale to bring the prices down, with only a tiny market section interested and willing to pay, surrounded by Tech giants. the fact that they managed to not go under and put out 3 phones so far is a success story.

@johnbull5394

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The economies of scale is an interesting point, and it's certainly impressive the company is still going as I know lots of ethically-interested people and NONE of them have a Fairphone. Which does beg the question though, how much of the extra cost actually goes to the workers, and how much simply allows the small firm to run at reduced efficiency? I'm not saying the Fairphone is a bad concept, nor that anyone is profiteering, and I'd probably look into buying one myself if I wanted a smartphone, I suppose I'm just wondering whether if there were truly a large market for this sort of thing, how ethical Apple or Samsung could be, if they continued to make much the same product and just charged double.

Lmao after the first minute. I have an iPhone 5S, mate. That is not chunky. And honestly, we *should* be paying more for phones. The ones you speak about which are cheaper with better camera quality probably don't have the same ethics behind it. A phone with good morals is invaluable. Thanks for the review though, I was wondering about the camera and stuff.

I have not used one so my option is not that valid. I like the look of it. Fits my style, maybe next phone I will pick one up.

So you are a Manchester United fan! My brother ✌🏾

The concept of this phone is unique and I absolutely applaud their initiative. However, I would spend more money (around 600 dollars) for a better camera and a better platform: apps tend to become heavier overtime and therefore the processor inside the phone should be more capable and time proof. I'm not saying to go with a SD 855, but they could use a one year or two years old flagship SOC and get them at fair prices. The same goes with camera lens and software. Google proved that you can get great photos with just one good OIS lens: just find or develop a good camera software! The operating system should also be a priority. I'm ok with stock android, but you should provides system updates longer than other phone brands... so have some focus on software as well!

(wooh! Samurai Champloo) I was instantly loving this phone after seeing the replaceable battery. I don't need no water-proof phone, I have no plans of taking a Titanic ride with one. BUT, everything past that seems like too many negatives for that single possitive to mean anything. A sluggish phone is fine... if it's as old as the one currently replacing my broken phone. But not in one a year to 2 year old phone I'm still paying quite a high price for. Thank you for the review, it's good to see both sides of the phone. : )

When the Fairphone 2 came out, the company provided a breakdown of costs/revenue per phone, and you could see that fair wages, sourcing materials etc. is not that expensive. They made just 9 Euro per phone (if I remember it right)... So these phones are not that cheap because they are not produced/sold in Millions.

3:57 - Architects! Fittingly that song song (Red Hypergiant) is about sustainability lol

hang on, the main complaints are that it compromises on component quality, but those same components are replaceable and therefore upgradable! if you don't like the stock camera, surely they have a better one you can slap in? don't like the battery life can't you carry round an extra just in case? then you have twice the battery life of phones on the market. Break your screen and you replace it. crack/scuff your case, replace it. I think they must have designed it so that it's highly modular, so cannot you just upgrade the processor when it's time to a faster one? maybe upgrade the software to a new version? Compared to other phones on the market, how much freedom does this product give you in terms of upgrading or replacing? how much money can you save (potentially) by buying replaceable parts directly from the source? They don't seem to be trying to price gauge people, encouraging the right to repair. This is all worth the price imo.

I really like the concept but its just too expensive for a low range chipset. I do believe the LG G5 H820 from 2016 is a much better deal imo. Its costs only $80 USD, its smaller, has SD820 Chipset, a headphone jack, a microSD Card slot, removable battery (upgradable up-to 5700mah for $15 via Aliexpress). I just wish they made this phone smaller so it can fit in your hand and cheaper. Hope this helps.

Title clearly designed to grab attention, not provide an unbiased assessment of quality. That being said, this is still a good review and I will give it a thumbs up. Based on this review, the next new phone I buy (when I can afford one) will probably be a fairphone. Thanks for covering this topic!

Did you get a chance to check out the new Fairphone 4 ?

this phone is supported by lineageos, so you can easily update to a newer stuff.

I think a good compromise is to buy Nokia and HTC. While they are not as ethical as a Fairphone, they are both some of the most ethical phone manufacturers out there. My source is thegoodshoppignguide. Sadly Nokia and HTC will never know the true reason that you purchased from them.

It has the Pixel 3a sensor.. if it had OIS and similar performance it would be viable. 'Do no evil' Google should get behind this project and give it full software support. I would pay extra for this phone on ethical grounds but would need camera on par with 3a etc.

@dftknight

3 жыл бұрын

Its on a Snapdragon chipset so it should be easy to find a compatible port of Google Camera for Fairphone on Xda developers.

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT, Jackstick, SD-SLOT and REPLACEABLE BATTERY. And personnel I like not having to much options in regards of the camera.

The headline is definetly misleading. The fairphone is the leading product in fairness.

I agree with the other comments. Of course it's higher in price compared to what we are used to for hardware like this. Because that phone is not a result of extremely cheap labour.

Hopefully this Fairphone goes mainstream and one day can compete on equal footing against Apple, Samsung, and Huawei ☺️

@maartenlaarhoven160

4 жыл бұрын

It can't be the same price, ever. Because FP pays more for the parts and labour.

The sell point of thr fairphone isn't price/hardware ratio. It is that a fairphone can last forever, run multiple software platforms, is excellent for development, is far more secure than a normal phone, and leads us to a move positive technological future by all paths.

Sorry but maybe my english is not that so good: I don't understand why this title "not fair enough". I just hear in this video about the technical details of the phone, not about the fact that it's "not fair enough". Am I wrong? Because if I'm not wrong, this title misleads who reads it, by making him think that there are some ethic issues even in a Fairphone. Thanks.

@johnbull5394

3 жыл бұрын

The title is a (not very effective) play on words. I suppose if you read the title in the sense that the fact that the phone isn't fair (ethical) enough to make him want to buy one you would say it is misleading as he does not give any evidence of this, but as 'fair' has several meanings, including 'moderately good' and 'beautiful', the title is justified in that he feels the limitations of the phone are not sufficient for him to want to purchase one.

"Fairphone are ethical unlike every other smartphone company" *30s later* "What is this shit, why isn't it like the iphone or samsaung? Fuck this everyboy, just go for the slave labour. It's sexier"

The price comparison isn't fair if you are able to use it for 6 years vs the typical 3 years. I currently use a samsung galaxy s5 from 2015 (!). The battery charging port failed 2.5 years ago. Since the battery is replaceable I just have 2 batteries which I swap and charge. So the battery being replaceable alone has saved me 2.5 years. Therefore, if you want value for money it's actually the very best option.

I think many people are missing a key component here. A giant part of this phone is that many of the parts are replaceble wich in the long run will make the phone much cheaper than any other phone. You can change the battery if it starts to fade you can change just the screen if it breaks and you can change the camera and speaker too. This is great for saving money and its much better for the environment because you can change just the part thats problematic instead of throwing the whole phone away and buying a new one. Plus they make it so you can change these things yourself with relative ease instead of having to have a professional fix it. This is what for example apple is moving directly away from they literally try their hardest so you cannot fix the phone yourself in any way so you have to rely on them. And the usually just say that its cheaper to buy a new phone instead of fixing for example just the screen which i think is absurd. (And the fact that they work for good working conditions and a more sustainable environment is ofc an amazing plus to all this).

Completely missed the point. Most of us don't even need a super high quality screen or other features. I'm still trying to understand why is this video having so many "thumbs up"

I think it’s a great concept. I applaud what they are doing if they can upgrade the all the parts of the phone with each release. I think that making it modular and upgradable is great. If they continue to improve there parts and upgrade the phone the cost will be cheaper then buying a nee iPhone or new android each year. They can add more improvements such as waterproof and still make it modular. Apple has gone the complete opposite way. Every iPhone has to be completely replaced when you want an upgrade. Same as with their Macs and iPads. Soon I won’t but their products anymore.

It's not just about reducing stuff that can't be recycled, it's mainly about not supporting slavery which basically all other brands do. Plus you can always put Lineage OS on it to make it much better. I'd go around with a chunky/quirky phone, if it prevents people from dying in a mine and living lives that are horrible.

Glad I came across this review. It made me do some digging. SInce Fairphone 1 was offically made obsolete by the manufacturer (source: Fairphone website) less than 4 years after it was released and my mobile phones tend to last me at least 8 years (even my father, who usually breaks everything, has used his Samsung Galaxy heavily for over 4 years without breaking it), having spare parts available to me for such a short period is not an advantage. So the sales pitch of a repairable phone you could get parts for falls flat. Turns out is was nothing but a sales pitch: they made parts available for so long as hardly anyone needed them. I'm not saying it was the firm's intent, but that's what happened. I hope the ethical supply chain is not a similar disappointment.

@Derlaft

3 жыл бұрын

Fairphone 2 is already supported for 6 years. It's not really fair to judge on their first model, it was probably produced in a too low of a quantity. It did not have 4G, it had 1G RAM - unfortunately all those things are mandatory in the modern Android era. So "they made parts available for so long as hardly anyone needed them" - I think quite the opposite.

well, you can repair it yourself, updrade parts, .. it can't be technically as slim as a mass produced smartphone, because a true modalr system needs its space i don't share your first opinions

I wish i could geta hands on it. Atleast these things don't carry the curses.

Gonna be my next phone

I'd love to see you try and say these things in front of the people who have to suffer brutal conditions because you just have to have a telephoto lens

A metalic frame is desirable for two reasons. (1) less plastic and (2) less plastic. Metals are more durable while not leaking chemicals. Less plastic = less dependence on fosile fuels. We see consumerism at its peak in the car manufacturing industry where despite the fact that the technology is so advanced, the amount of plastic used in the constructions process is tremendous high. "The engine is still working ok" but most of plastics used are literally decay around you. Let's make a product that will last a life time (or as much as possible) as our needs aren't that different in regards to transportation, data management, appliances, etc. If we are not doing that, the amount of garbage that we produce will bury us.

At 6:13 her right wellie is invisible!

@jesseling2802

4 жыл бұрын

Wellie?

@iminni3459

4 жыл бұрын

@@jesseling2802 Wellington boot

Definitely my next phone.