I've been terrified since I was 15 (12 years ago) and I've always felt completely alone in my fear. I went vegetarian for the climate as a teenager which my parents thought was insane and radically changed my lifestyle when I moved out of my parents' house. Now I'm studying environmental engineering to hopefully help in some way. It's actually very reassuring for the climate anxiety that I've had for over a decade that the world seems to finally be waking up even a little tiny bit. It's interesting watching all my friends go through the stages of grief about the climate emergency now that I went through so long ago. I don't feel so alone.

My only problem is with the term "emegency", not because it isn't one, but because people will think any solution is momentary, "while the emergency is resolved" we need permanent solutions and for people to support these actions even if "they can't see" the imminent danger. Look at this pandemic, we explained everyone as clear and loud as we could, and not even talking about people who refuse to wear a mask, but everyone got bored, started going out again, disregarded most advises. Emergency mode wears out, wish I had a sugestion, but all I can do is bring attention to the detail. We need to convince people to join and support the revolution and just transition away from carbon emmisions, but also to understand that that requires comitment from now on, and I think the word "emergency" will make that second part harder. Sorry about the rant. great video as always, Kurtis.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Not a rant, I get what you're saying. I also think that its much better than the incrimentalist mindset we're currently in. We do have to get to net zero by 2030, and it's going to take all the urgency we can muster. The focus response in a lot of places has been a wreck, but some countries have shown clear abilities to stop the spread. Same goes for emissions.

@sirelkir

3 жыл бұрын

,@@ScopeofScience It's the classic: it's easier to ask for an apology than for permission. It's easier to explain after the waning of the "emergency mode", that we really need to keep these things on for much longer, up to forever - and in general people are going to get used to it.

You gotta to love governments providing massive funds to airline companies due to the pandemic, while letting them go backrupt would remove a large pollution sector. Though, mobility and transport are important.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Watching the government say for decades that climate action would be too expensive, and then seeing them pull out Trillions of dollars for covid relief... that enraged me.

@stevenb7319

3 жыл бұрын

Kurtis Baute especially since tons of the climate change solutions that were SOOO expensive were Billions of dollars. Not that COVID isn’t important but it won’t destroy the habitability of the planet. Until politicians realize the planet isn’t our kids or grandkids problem they may not take it seriously enough.

Really excited to read Margaret's book and also share it with my sister, who is also (soon to be) a clinical psychologist! I feel this book could help bridge the communication gap between my sister and I. We haven't really spoken about the climate crisis properly and when I bring up my concerns I feel like I'm maybe making her feel guilty somehow? But really, all I want is to be able to talk honestly about the challenges ahead.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

This comment makes my day. Really hope it helps you two bridge that gap and have those conversations.. they are hard but SO important

Thank you for posting this video. I've been feeling so overwhelmed with the climate crisis recently and I've been feeling pretty helpless. I'm going to get in touch with my local climate action groups and get stuck in with the community, this video has given me the kick to do it. We can't do this as individuals. I look forward to reading Margaret's book and learning more about how to face this as an emergency and get those around me involved.

i've also been feeling like that these days. thanks kurtis, i'll check the book.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Feeling for you Raul. Hope the book helps you too!

mabye insted of removing ads from your channel so it wont promote plastic stuff you could enable ads and donate all of the monney to companys that work against climait change or plastic polution or somthing sry for the bad english

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that those ads will increase the sales of wasteful stuff, and I don't think the donations I could make from it are enough to offset the true cost of that, even from a carbon standpoint alone. (also, I'd have thought you were a native english speaker if you hadn't mentioned it)

@nk6197

3 жыл бұрын

Get only companies that are very eco friendly to sponsor your videos. @Kurtis Baute

I grow flowers and feed the birds. I've been watching Guy McPherson also and have started prepping. I also was watching Scishow Psych and they said its healthy to prep for a local event for example hurricane prep in my area. Hurricane prep entails everything for example the Sawyer Mini filter. Camping channels help. I am a Chemist in my mid 50s. Lifetime awareness of climate change/justice and now adaptation.

First, I appreciate how you both pointed out that we have been convinced this is some far off thing. It’s been 90F + at some point every month this year in Florida. My mango tree went through two bloom cycles, the first was like January (mango is a summer crop). I agree with the individual carbon footprint concept being flawed as well. I’ve been vegan and it seems more people are aware of plant based eating these days yet more and more animals are killed every year since the system is riddled with subsidies for corporations to the point where there isn’t a true supply and demand. We need system change for sure. Thanks for sharing.

"Go beyond the atmosphere and try to beat the heat"

commenting for that algorithm. great conversation here! someday i will have a day or two to edit down the conversation I had with Dr. Salamon - it'll make a nice companion piece to this b/c it'll focus more on her books 2nd? or 3rd? chapter about dealing with the emotional struggle of being fully aware of the climate emergency.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Miriam! That sounds like the perfect companion video indeed. The emotional struggle is a much *much* bigger part of the climate struggle than I realized back in my 'ALl wE nEeD is scIENcE' days. Sigh... Will be looking forward to that :)

Great video. Thank you for putting this out. It would be nice if Climate change wasn’t treated like politics and religion as far as don’t discuss it in polite company. At this point it is painful every time I meet people who say it isn’t real or that it happens naturally. I think it would be great if you did a video on the difference between the gradual and natural climate changes (more like climate shifts) of the past and the man made climate change now. It may take some research but I know you are a great person for the job. You handed the flat earth argument so well and I’d love to have a video to show those people that say climate change happens naturally.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

I walked away from flat earth content because I realized that drawing attention to it is what is allowing it to flourish. Making content for climate deniers fuels the fire. It's where we spent our energy for the first several decades of climate communication, and it was a waste. I might do a video about *that* though lol Thank you!

@stevenb7319

3 жыл бұрын

Kurtis Baute great point. Negative press is still press. I wish we could all just present a logical argument and have it listened too. I imagine that thought is what drove you in the direction of the flat earth movement. I just wish it wasn’t an uphill battle. Thanks for all you do to push in the most efficient direction

@MisterNohbdy

3 жыл бұрын

"It would be nice if Climate change wasn't[sic] treated like politics" If you're talking about the U.S., that's never gonna happen. *Everything* that some people don't like is immediately labeled "political" in the U.S., because tagging topics with that buzzword means it's societally acceptable to have an opinion on it that isn't based in fact. Wearing a frickin' mask to deal with COVID-19 is "political" here. It's just a psychological trick to remain perpetually in denial of uncomfortable truths. At this point, all that can be done is to get the right political party in power to do something about it, because the other party isn't going to change its stance unless and until there are some major changes to campaign finance laws to remove the influence of the fossil fuel industry.

@stevenb7319

3 жыл бұрын

Anonymous well said. We Americans can make French fries political by calling them freedom fries. That being said I don’t think anyone could possibly keep important issues from becoming political. My comment was simply in the hope of being able to discuss important subjects calmly and rationally with people who may disagree. But that may be asking a bit much for some people. Maybe that part of my comment had all the value of “I would like to win the Lottery.” Thank you for your comment it was very interesting. I will definitely have to think about what you said some more.

I bought a copy - before it was published... but I've not had time to read it yet! Harvest season.....

I liked this video and I'm very interested in the book. I have just started studying environmental science and I'm glad to learn more in depth what the problems are and how big those problems are. It's inspirational to watch your channel, thanks for caring about humanity's future.

Looking for an environmental job as I watch this.

Great video! Thank you for the information and important conversation.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Meropi! Nice to see you here ☺️ you're most welcome! Hope you're doing well

This is so great, thank you for making it.

Hey Kurtis, fantastic video! I'm not sure if you've talked about our food supply in depth, but it is absolutely reliant on fossil fuels, like nearly every part of the process so far needs fossil fuels. Not sure if you've discussed this in depth, but just wondering if you had any resources that discuss how to deal with this problem in depth

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

I grew up on a farm, so this is something I think about all the time. Its a hard sector to transition - but you're right, its a big part of the puzzle that we need to solve. From a Canadian/US perspective, the two big things we can do right away are curb meat consumption and food waste. Some of this is easy (eg. remove meat subsidies), and some of that is more difficult. This alone would get us a good chunk of the way there. The rest will need to come from electrifying agriculture, and changing a lot of things about the ways we grow food - and that will take more time.

I am not sure if the nature of global warming will easily translate into an 'emergency' in the wider political sphere. Whist we would like the problem to appear like a burning house to inspire rapid change, it is actually a lot more akin to a growing sinkhole beneath the house. It is a looming problem but I'm not surprised that lack of immediacy prompts people to adopt gradual solutions. On a political level I am not sure if things are going to be solved much by collectivizing (particularly with this type of looming problem). Whist it's useful to get the occupants of the house to understand (and be invested in) the issue of the growing sinkhole, you ultimately will need someone with relevant skills like a civil engineer to devise and supervise a real solution. If you ask me, catastrophizing and bundling this issue with a lot of other issues only dilutes the scientific &/or engineering challenge we will need to focus on to really solve this kind of problem.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, emergency is perfect precisely because it is not like any one singular catastrophe - its the same reason we no longer global warming: its about fires, floods, heat, famine, etc... Also, as someone who is coming at this from a science perspective first (and if you ask any climate communicator, they'll likely agree), this is no longer an issue of science/engineering. We know precisely what we need to do to solve it. We've known the solutions for decades. The issue we have is in getting people to take it seriously, and getting them to act.

@byter75

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ScopeofScience No term is "perfect", as I alluded to in my OP I feel like you'll have limited reach with more hyperbolic language that doesn't reflect the nature of the problem more closely. As far as knowing precisely what is needed to solve it, does this involve the "free energy forever" you have spoken of before*? Though, in any case, as I had just indicated in the above comment, popular support is nice but it's not the rate determining factor to solve the problem at hand. *As I've indicated in past videos, I am rather sceptical of anything being "free" or lasting "forever" (as we know in science, perpetual motion machines are always legit).

@MisterNohbdy

3 жыл бұрын

@@byter75 Equating renewable energy to a perpetual motion machine is not accurate. There is an external, finite source of energy involved in everything on Earth: the sun. It's just not "finite" in any sense that matters on a human timescale, unlike the resources we're currently primarily consuming.

@byter75

3 жыл бұрын

@@MisterNohbdy Would you be more charitable if I called it a magical perpetuity machine? Magical because it costs nothing to build and run (it is spontaneously created and is not subject to normal forms of entropy) and perpetuity because it runs for perpetuity (... no it doesn't have to outlast the heat death of the universe.. just long enough for someone to say it lasts 'forever'...).

How is the pipeline blockage going?

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Occupied that section of the construction corridor past the time they were legally allowed to do the work there, so we're calling that milestone a victory. The fight is not over though, and we're settling in to be able to continue the protest through the colder, wetter months.

@indigan9034

3 жыл бұрын

Kurtis Baute nice! great work

All this is true and I agree 100% but your are in 1st world country, having stuff like 90% of earth population can't afford. People would gladly be eco-friendly but for some folks in africa or asia it is just impossible.

(First chapter link redirected me to google)

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm... it works for me. Just changed it though - how about that?

@JZL003

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScopeofScience Yeah it works now, might have just been weird on my end before, thanks :)

This world needs people like you rather than the careless capitalists....

Trotting out the WW2 analogy is as tired as the rest of this discussion.

Here's the video about carbon footprints if anyone is looking: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKqcutaIoNaafbA.html

Hello Kurtis, I love your work and your climate education, but I dont see how it is a viable solution to try and get people(very hard to influence) to change. I dont think they are going to. I just think that a lot of energy is being focused on trying to get people to change for something that doesn't affect them yet, or not educated on, and not on solutions were people don't sacrifice western life or make big changes to make a difference. Eg. Solar city I understand that sacrifice is necessary, but I think its gonna be hard to take away normality. I know it's stupid to blame people, but the people in charge are the people that make the biggest difference.

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

Our goal is not to get people to change their behaviors, is to get them to commit to pressing for political change for climate action.

I’m getting that book, right now ! I need that Climate Anxiety Therapy. Badly 🌋

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

I feel for you. Hope it helps you as much as it helped me :)

idol

The defense of people with climate change denial is the same as those affluent who defense poverty death. Because IOs declared poverty death acceptable, and the fact that most of the people believe there is no solution to solve poverty, thus I have lost all hope for the humanity. We are living in the market system that is out of control. It makes me feel sick every time I walk into the supermarket. I don't feel better just because I buy soy milk or any other plant base products. They all cause problem. I can see problem with everything, so now I even stretch a box of milk. I know that consumers should not bare all the responsibility, but the company and the people who monopolized products must bare full responsibility. But that is like asking god for miracle. Should I start making bomb?

@ScopeofScience

3 жыл бұрын

I understand your frustration. I think the solution to the problem and to much of the despair is *non-violent* civil disobedience. I think any form of violence will really set back the movement, and the reason we're doing this is to reduce human suffering, not increase it. Just an FYI: I won't tolerate comments that incite violence.

@TK-fr4dg

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ScopeofScience Of course, I'm sorry I didn't mean to incite violent. A bomb would only contribute as my carbon footprint. I will not make this kind of joke again since no one is laughing. So I think I''ll just stop using toilet paper and start wiping the shit from my ass with my own hands, since FSC isn't what it really claims itself to be. Also, I think you work hard and think too much like me, so take care of your mind and ur health Mr. Baute.

@TK-fr4dg

3 жыл бұрын

I should start a campaign to get people to start cleaning their butts with their hands. Do you know that most of the toilet from the less developed country has some sort of garden hose next to the toilet so they don't use toilet paper. I grew up using the garden hose to clean my ass. When did this all start? All these destruction just so people can clean their butts.

@TK-fr4dg

3 жыл бұрын

Do u think toilet paper can be or should be banned like how EU banned the plastic straws? Also I don't see how paper straw is any better than the plastic one.

@crashfan11

3 жыл бұрын

@@TK-fr4dg I don't understand why we give everyone straws shouldn't we only give them to people who need them than to people who don't just seems a little weird to hand out paper straws. Just take straws away. Unless you actualy need it