FA20DIT Piston & Rod - OEM vs. Aftermarket & Comparison to EJ
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This FA20DIT (MY15+ WRX) engine build we're currently working on for a customer presented an excellent opportunity to show you the difference between not only a Factory and aftermarket Piston and Rod assembly for the newer series Subaru FA20DIT engine, but also the opportunity to compare to the older EJ design.
What are some of the strengths and weaknesses? Check out this video to find out!
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i really would like to ship my car from u.s to this guy the shops around me are lazy and not informative like this gentleman
@johnsZ281
5 жыл бұрын
Where you from
Nice, always great to learn this from a master.
Great video! This was so good, thank you!
Brett.. great video again mate.
I plan on running my stock FA block into the ground (or at least until some serious issues occur) before purchasing the aftermarket block & setup and pushing it past 400hp, so this was a nice informative video that sort of makes me feel like I’m making the right decision in waiting to up the power that much on stock parts lol
Love these videos. So what's the fuel efficiency drop with the aftermarket conrods? They look 3x the size of OEM
Damn... these guys are very informative and Cleary know there shit
glad to know what weak points are in the fa20 probably gonna be doing some major upgrades down the line when I wanna start pushing more power than factory
MRT I had the dealer over fill my new WRX with shy of a quart of oil. Ive lost all power, what do I say to them considering damage done?
Don't the FA, FB, and EE all share the asymmetrical rod style? And is the diesel variant the same oem rod from subaru? Im curious..
Do you know if 2018 sti headers will bolt on a 2018 wrx. Its for a custom build with pro tune. Appreciate the help thank you
I'm more curious about information for the car (2015+ wrx's) that had the problems. How much boost was he running and what would you consider to be safe on the stock internals? Also what realistically do you think is safe horsepower numbers for this car on stock internals?
Can you do wrx cvt jpipe and headers
@MRT can you guys do a video comparing the FA20DIT to the BRZ/T86 naturally aspirated FA20? Are there any major differences besides the turbo and the oil cooler?
@benburris4735
3 жыл бұрын
Google the dsport website to see the major differences, cylinder heads and even the blocks are quite different from each other.
Can u you use brz fa20 rods on fa20dit wrx rods but not change pistons
WOULD THEY WORK WITH THE CVT IF I ADDED THEM?
Are the fa2dit rods the same as the fa20 ones?
You seem to know alot about the fa20. If you had the choice what modification would you do to the engine 1st? And what oil brand would you pick?
@remissiveslave
3 жыл бұрын
My question to you is who's replacing or rebuilding it if the more than likely inevitable catastrophic engine failure occurs? Probably be best just ripping the stock motor apart and build from the inside out, might as well if your going to destroy it anyway.
Hey, great video. Under how much power would the conrod actually start bending? Thanks
@TTime685
3 жыл бұрын
I think as low as mid 300s to 400 from what I've heard. Depends on how hard the car is driven really..
@theherrderr
3 жыл бұрын
@@TTime685 fair enough, is that wheel horsepower?
@TTime685
3 жыл бұрын
@@theherrderr Yeah
Will this fit a fa24 ????😬
Any development with wrx cvt in 2019
@remissiveslave
3 жыл бұрын
It's called wtf bother
Could you or some one let me know the boost limit for a Stock FA 20 engine on a Scion FRS with out bending or breaking internals. I have a Jackson Racing 9Psi Supercharger with intercooler and High Performance Radiator with oil cooler. I never track the car only street driven in Florida. Don't want to blow my engine. Thanks
@Q-64
4 жыл бұрын
I've been researching this as well for my FRS and decided on having it built now that I have all of my other mods on it before boost. Basically anywhere from 8-10psi can do it apparently. But the forums have shown it can happen with less.
Going to go out on a limb and say that the boost levels required to bend a FA20DIT stock con-rod is something more that what is somewhat more than the max boost available to the stock build. Right or wrong?
@Itsmellsfishy
4 жыл бұрын
I hope right. Otherwise I have a time bomb in my garage lol
@brodiwheeler7583
3 жыл бұрын
Bone Stock ‘15 Dealer maintained early everytime/all recommendations done... Just broke a rod at 82k mi. These motors on stock tune overboost past 22psi sometimes, and the rods can’t handle. Utter Garbage!
What is the brand of this aftermarket pistons?
@kirkniese
5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Looks like Brian Crower www.briancrower.com/makes/subaru/fa20_rods.shtml.
So what max psi level have you found to be safe for 2013 and up fa20 FRS internals cons rods?
@corning1
5 жыл бұрын
How about safe hp levels for the new 2018 wrx motors?
@BathSaltBadger
5 жыл бұрын
I think it depends how long you want your car to last, you can run 14psi... it'll be fast as fuck. But probably blow up down the street, for fa20 its about ~10psi. Also, depends on what you call safe, you got 200k miles stock or 100-150k miles modded depending on how much boost you run. Also remember when you slap on a turbo, you got a lot of heat management things to worry about, especially when its not designed for it. Switch out the piston and con rods when you can.
@BathSaltBadger
5 жыл бұрын
@Captain Buff The Third hehehe, the real question is do you want a stock car you can drive hard without worrying or a modified car but babying it 😆
@BathSaltBadger
5 жыл бұрын
@Captain Buff The Third warranty 😁
@BathSaltBadger
5 жыл бұрын
@Captain Buff The Third lol I meant hard within reason! not beating the fuck out of it, on the plus side, nothing last forever :( so might as well as enjoy what you got. Anyhow, I think the magic phrase we can both agree upon is you gotta 'pay to play'.
If I wanted to make more power and replace stock internals what would I change out besides con rods and pistons? Anything else major or minor?
@ZFA1738
4 жыл бұрын
Depends on power goals. If you plan to not exceed 400whp-400wtq then rods alone should be fine. If you plan to exceeed 400whp/wtq then I’d upgrade block/internals/turbo and transmission.
@christopherrogers8316
3 жыл бұрын
@@ZFA1738 trans and diff don't hold so we'll after 350-400 tq. Unfortunately 😭
@ZFA1738
3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherrogers8316 300 to the wheels is all you need in a dc5 in my opinion. Easily a low 13, high 12 second car all day.
Can a fa20 head be married to a fb25 block for a brz ?
Well I guess I'll stop after my ap and j pipe slash tune. Don't think I'll want the headache of this shot blowing up at 345 whp
@Semibrucelee
5 жыл бұрын
It can withstand 350whp. 350bhp is where it gets dicey.
How much horsepower can a stock internal fa20dit engine handle?
@nikesbeast
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the high torque(370+) and repetitive pulls that blow the fa20
In case anyone's wondering, upgrading those cars is free!!!!!!
What does he mean when he says the engines have birthdays? He says that’s in quite a few videos about Subaru’s - maybe not this one..
Most people that buy these cars can barely make the payment let alone pay for a new piston set installed haha interesting info though.
@jacoblesieur1433
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Eppenger only a 30k car pretty affordable on the other hand the insurance is what will get some of the younger people looking to get into one
Honestly those are some wimpy looking con-rods. You could bend them by sneezing on them. C'mon Suburu, up your game.
My Stock ‘15 religiously maintained at dealers only just detonated a rod at 82k mi. Those rods are about as durable as a styrofoam cup. I mean, in what Universe does an offset rod that is skinny AF make sense in a Turbo performance car??? 👎🏼👎🏼