As usual no lap times for comparison

even with the 2017 car being faster, you can see how the 2008 car just is way less understeery in all the corners. really highlights how bad the modern f1 cars in slow speed corners when they have no downforce, due to their weight and size

@addi1105

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i noticed that too. The older cars are just more nimble due to the weight and size as you said so the 2008 McLaren gained time in the first chicane back

@juniorhulzebos1005

4 жыл бұрын

Well you have to put it a bit different. They are indeed more understeery and less nimble nowadays but it LOOKS slower but the cars are faster on every part of the track, also slow corners

@vickolous

4 жыл бұрын

@Hallison Michel everyone would enjoy smaller cars, more nimble and ofc better for racing, being able to go side by side. unfortunately the weight issue cant really be resolved, with the weight of the new power units and the halo, the weight added by those cant really be reduced

@vickolous

4 жыл бұрын

@Hallison Michel i mean, even as recently as 2016 we've seen drivers fighting the cars at times, sliding and catching oversteer, obv nowhere near as impressive or as daring as the pre 2010's, but still. with the 2017 cars and beyond theres just too much traction and downforce. yeah a fast lap will still be impressive due to little mistakes, and the utter speed of it, but never as good as watching a lap from 2007 or another time around then, watching drivers fighting oversteer and slides... the closest we've gotten to that was leclercs singapore pole lap, still fun to watch but nowhere near as the old pole laps

The map is flipped

Why do you keep flipping maps? It's confusing

Bridgestone's rain tyres were so much better, it's honestly ridiculous. No wonder they can hardly race in wet weather these days.

Wow absolutely a superb video . Excellent work . I’m our time of need please keep up the good work !!!

O carro de 2008 parece ter maior velocidade final e também parece contornar melhor as curvas mais lentas. Mesmo tendo menor velocidade final, o carro de 2019 tem uma aceleração bem maior, pois sua unidade de potência gera maior torque e disponível a partir de giro muito mais baixo. Um motor bem elástico. Além disso, o câmbio do carro mais novo tem o escalonamento diferente: as marchas são mais próximas. Parece ser mais curto.

@luisdavivirgino2996

3 жыл бұрын

Na verdade, o carro de 2017 (sim, 2017) tem melhor aceleração e velocidade final, e também concegue contornar melhor as curvas, porque são maiores e tem mais downforce, porém são mais pesados.

The racing lines seem to be totally opposite even if it's the same driver lol. Why?

@Ben_Mayall

4 жыл бұрын

JULIO JOSE OSWALDO MORALES BARRIENTOS the dry lines are different. Not sure why they are to be honest.

@joejohnnys

4 жыл бұрын

Different cars

@armchairracer007

4 жыл бұрын

Driving in the wet is all about reading the road surface. No two laps in the wet will ever be exactly the same because where the grip is will be constantly changing.

@Glenn7719

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe experience also. You notice 2017 he is staying away from the kerbs as he learnt over the years how slippery they can be and slow you down in the wet.

@goldenchampy7130

4 жыл бұрын

Its the same in Rotax Max karting. The ideal line is full with rubber and gets oily in the wet. When you pay attention while karting in the wet you can see small bubbles and this typical oil coloring. So you have to avoid breaking and accelerating on the line and even worse: white lines at the edge of the track or start grid positions close to a corner.

The traction in the Mercedes looks better than the McLaren despite the McLaren being the one that has traction control? Are the engine maps so sophisticated nowadays that the car has a kind of traction control built into the mappings or something similar?

@carlos1308

4 жыл бұрын

A C in ‘08 TC had already been banned. My guess to why the Mercury seems to have better traction might be due to the fact it has more aerodynamic grip. The tires are also better and the merc also has a hybrid unit which has more torque

@forzaelite1248

4 жыл бұрын

@@carlos1308 "the Mercury" 🤣 Autocorrect doing its thing as usual

@markhenley3097

4 жыл бұрын

@@carlos1308 Yeah same in dry tyres when comparing the two. I also read somewhere that Hamilton had the wrong tyres in 2008 alhought I'm not sure.

@OmegaF77

4 жыл бұрын

@@forzaelite1248 Imagine your grandma's Mercury going that fast lol

Underrated channel....!

Ronco do motor é sensacional👍

@luisdavivirgino2996

3 жыл бұрын

Qual deles? 2008 ou 2017?

Times?

These new cars are soo large and heavier, FIA moved in wrong direction with rules, those old cars were soo agile and looked dramatic cuz they would hustle then using steering, there's no charisma in current cars

@zNoah

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if Mercedes would've stayed in F1 if the hybrid PU wasn't a thing.

@zNoah

4 жыл бұрын

Hybrids are a necessary evil to keep companies interested.

@JustusKuroVT

4 жыл бұрын

Isnt innovation F1s thing? Cars are aleays getting better and better, even if the rules doesnt change, Im sure the cars would be even easier to drive than what it is today

@utasajaia5681

4 жыл бұрын

@@zNoah Mercedes has never had bad engine. Even in V8 era their engine was still with the bests

@zNoah

4 жыл бұрын

@@utasajaia5681 I never meant performance-wise, I mean technology-wise

Also had traction control 2008 made huge difference.

@powerfultoa7

3 жыл бұрын

Traction control was banned in 2008.

@michaeldavis2531

2 жыл бұрын

No traction control in 2008. You can clearly see some power oversteer out of the corners. You wouldn't get that with TC, it would cut the power.

2 controlli di trazione diversi, due tipi di gomme diverse (slick su Mercedes, scanalate su Mclaren) e potenze differenti.... Questo confronto non è affatto consono

@albertotroisi4961

4 жыл бұрын

Le gomme da bagnato nel 2008 erano comunque simili a quelle attuali

@sergiodlrh7074

4 жыл бұрын

Los F1 de hoy en día no usan control de tracción, y los de 2008 tampoco, ya que se acababa de prohibir...

@giovannicioffi2572

4 жыл бұрын

Sergio DLRH ah sì giusto, però hanno pur sempre caratteristiche differenti...Ma comunque per me, le monoposto di prima eran un’altro pianeta, molto più emozionanti😍

@giovannicioffi2572

4 жыл бұрын

Alberto Troisi sì ma sono convinto che se le monoposto di prima montassero quelle gomme e avessero più o meno gli stessi cavalli sarebbero più veloci

@giovannicioffi2572

4 жыл бұрын

Poi comunque un’altra differenza c’è, quelle di oggi hanno il drs, quelle di prima no..

Where is the halo?

@aspiknf

4 жыл бұрын

Oops my bad