F-22 vs Chinese J-31 Fighter Pilot Reacts
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F-22 Raptor vs the Chinese J-31, real fighter pilot reacts to this match up.
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F-22 vs Chinese J-31 or J-35. Fighter pilot reacts.
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At the end of the day, I believe that the A1 has some serious competition against a Heinz 57 platform.
@7timecenturycyclistvespada982
Ай бұрын
Yeah A1 is better on steaks I think but fries burgers ketchup is the Gerald Ford aircraft carriers of the food condiments
I live 4 hours from Oshkosh, Wisconsin and I go to EAA in Oshkosh every year. I have seen first hand the F-22, and F-35 in action. When the F-35 and F-22 did their demonstrations those engines rattle your brain in your skull. You wont see them coming but you'll definitely know that it was America by the ridiculously loud sound of pure freedom that just went roaring over your head.
Just recently the Chinese fighter has been spotted on radar the Chinese fighter lit up like a Christmas tree on radar😂
@Ben734
12 күн бұрын
The J-20 has a retractable Luneberg lens. So it can turn stealth off which is the standard operation mode when not in combat.
Praying for you and your son Neo. Glad to see you
@MaxAfterburnerusa
Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@20alphabet
Ай бұрын
Neo? 😆lol, guess it's better than Eon, One, Dweezil, or Walker Texas Ranger. R.I.P. Frank Zappa
Great video. ThMkx
The PL12 has been replaced by the PL15 for BVR use some years ago.
I love how China steals our designs and still can't compete....the F-22 Raptor is the oldest 5th gen plane but it's still the KING
@lyft4238
Ай бұрын
Sigh*....
@Rock_Snob
Ай бұрын
The F22 was released at the time when there was a lot of peace for America. Zero competition, so they busted up the assembly line to never be used again. Still dominates today 😊
@Saj14356
Ай бұрын
It’s a lie China can’t copy jets anything else yes
@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
Ай бұрын
same old BS. Jesus!
@dabo5078
Ай бұрын
F22 can;t compete lol. It has old outdated eletronics and no datalink. It would get slaughtered on the battlefield compared to upgraded 4th gen and 5th gen jets.
They can't even make J-20 as stealthy as F-35. Not to mention J-31/35 hasn't even begun production. More likely by the time J-35s come into service F-35s will have already received their upgrades with Block IV. So F-35s will still maintain a superior edge.
@olderchin1558
Ай бұрын
The J20 was designed primary as a long range air superiority fighter to mainly shoot down support assets like tankers and AWAC, it does not even have a canon. That is why it is a big and long delta winged fighter. And stealth performance is only great on the frontal profile. Side note, It is not great at maneuvering today as it was intended to have thrust vectoring engines ie WS15. And a 2 seater version is also being built as a drone commander. The F35 is a multirole fighter with a bulbous body to carry larger munitions with a fairly short range. The F22 also has a short range. The J35 is a multirole carrier fighter that that is expected to operate off all Chinese carriers. Several prototypes are already seen training on ground based carrier simulations. So mass production isn't far away.
@johnsilver9338
Ай бұрын
@@olderchin1558 F-35s including the B variant has more range than any 4th gen platform without external tanks. F-35A/C has 750 - 800 nmi combat radius, and this is before the engine core upgrades. While F-22 certainly has more range than F-35. F-35A has Typhoon's T/W ratio and Gripen's wing loading, while F-35C has Rafale's T/W ratio and Typhoon's wing loading. So F-35s are just as fast and nimble as any European fighter jet and can certainly dogfight especially the C variant. Not to mention F-35A has an internal cannon. So both in BVR and in a dogfight, F-35s much more F-22 definitely have an upperhand.
@olderchin1558
Ай бұрын
@@johnsilver9338 I don't expect the J35 to be better than the F35 in most aspects except maybe climb rate, ceiling, supercruise and max speed. It doesn't look like it will even have a cannon. It will not likely out range the F35A or C but certainly the B. BTW, the J20 has a combat range of 1100nm. But the J35 is made by a different manufacturer from the J20 so production volume will be good. This manufacturer makes the Flanker J11, 15 and 16. Shenyang has traditionally been a Soviet collaborator and Chengdu traditionally a US partner. China has a lot of unemployed engineers, so it should have no problem ramping up production.
@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
Ай бұрын
@@olderchin1558 It is because China has much better BVR missiles than USA. Further, J20 now flies with a swarm of FH93A stealth fighter drones and JQ11 stealth attack drones. It does not need to dog fight. Think forward. This is not 1990s anymore. Jesus!
@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
Ай бұрын
@@olderchin1558 "I don't expect the J35 to be better than the F35 in most aspects except maybe climb rate, ceiling, supercruise and max speed." What? China designed the J35 20 years after F35 and borrowed from the J20 experience. You should expect J35 to be much much better than F35.
Great video as always. You were USAF right? Any platforms you wish you got to fly but didn't?
I've always wondered that if a plane design has to take into account engine power and size, weapons that it has to carry, the size and shape of their detection systems, and all the other systems, wouldn't that mean that the blueprint wouldn't be much of use?
Realy I like it they are powerful and intelligent
I work construction near Luke afb. Son these engines are louder than f**k you feel it vibrating in your chest.
Pitot tube protrusion? These are going to be used only on the prototype.
it comes down to the piolet in the box
would’ve been cool to compare more of the characteristics of the F-22 to the J-35. seems the focus was comparing the F-35 instead.
Underestimating an opponent is not doing a great service to the clan. It might make everyone feel a high, but it’s deceiving and could be deadly.
The FC31 design has the canopy open from the front and the initial J35 also had the same design. The new canopy opening from the back came only in the latest iteration, which also had a completely different fuselage design. The wings are of a different design. The FC31, J31, J35 are essentially different planes. The J35 has gone through several design iteration. So you can stop making dumb references to the J35 being a copy of the F35.
the benefit using more than one engine is that it is more responsive with the early kicks when you crank the throttle. you know that best, you flown F15. also like what you said, reason why it is best for carrier launch where the jet could spool power up with brakes on(or locked to catapult) and then release. twin engine better at that. and also potentially, although each engine could have less power, total power output combined could be even more than a single engine jets. even if only a slight. about the J31 itself,(i hope thats the final name, J35 would sound like a"knock off" also, there is already a "J35" in the past, the draken by SAAB) , the J31 is technically i think the F35 with twin engine. the wing size/ surface load looks similar to F35 instead of F22. but it has slightly longer body, maybe so they can carry more internal fuel loads and made for higher topspeed. but the wing size characteristic, shows it would behave more like the F16. which has less aero drag at high AOA. (F16 is the original idea behind F35 design.) but something interesting is the positioning of the main wings leading edges that sits further back somewhat, compared to F22 and F35. this must have something to do with weight distribution. OR, they are planning for F22 style of 2D thrust vectoring but with some fix to the original. F22 bad habit is, when it uses its thrust vectoring to make sharp pitch it LOSES MOMENTUM BY A LOT. and must guzzle more fuels to gain back that momentum. (F22 never tested in real world dogfight with real bogeys, only mock up fights, but part of the reason of why they are planning to ground that jet is THE FUEL CONSUMPTION. which the supercruise capability didnt compensate much)
@cheetor5923
Ай бұрын
I never thought about that... Being a GA kid... Fewer engines is less to go wrong. But with just a quick think.. 2 engines have much lower rotational inertia, they'll spool faster, especially since rotational inertia is based on the square of the radius. Well plus in GA, we don't usually have people slugging chunks of various things at us, Or operate over terrain I'd not wanna be over
@alphaomega154
Ай бұрын
@@cheetor5923 fewer engines is MORE to go wrong. you will only have one chance. twin engine jets benefits the most jet engines dont produce rotational inertia. thats a myth. what do you mean by rotational inertia? you mean torque drift like what you see in propeller planes? like i said, jet engines DONT HAVE THAT. if its about turning radius, planes with the most narrowest turning radius have twin engines. what affects the plane's turning radius is the length of the fuselage and the position of the leading edges of the main loading wings. thats the PIVOT in turning/pitching. thats why STRAKES has serious effects on turning radius. not the count of how many engines. also "radius" is circle. not square.
can you please do a combat comparison between Gripen E/F & J-20, who shall win in combat
@orlock20
Ай бұрын
We don't know much about the J-20 and pilot training. We do know that China loves acting training. Acting training is where there is a goal and the Chinese win in glorious fashion while being watched by officers in bleachers. The soldiers are just stuntmen and actors doing a stage performance. If it's like that with the J-20 pilots, the Gripen pilots will most likely win. They will fly low with jammers on and the J-20 pilots will be totally confused.
@MuhammadAli-255
Ай бұрын
Short answer: They would get smoked. Long answer: J-20s stealth and pl15s are more than enough to overpower Gripens and EF. They'd get shot down before they even knew where the j20s were. They even lost to J11A in mock fights with Thailand's gripens.
One thing you missed; the American pilots would be superior to the Chinese pilots. Actual combat experience that gets passed down through the Top Gun programs, and more training hours provides better trained pilots.
@MaxAfterburnerusa
Ай бұрын
Top Gun is EPIC
It's rather obvious I think. Let's find out.
@RobotSlaves
Ай бұрын
Yep
@grungetruck8243
Ай бұрын
I don't think anything beats the f22 lol
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
@@grungetruck8243 True that, it was made that way.
@MaxAfterburnerusa
Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@KittyKittyCat-vf8zd
Ай бұрын
@@MaxAfterburnerusa LOL as a pilot, you are obsessed with dogfighting. This is not how China design their stealth planes. Air war is a team game. China designs the stealth plane to have superior radars and sensors as well as much better BVR missiles. Back them up with AWACS, swarm of FH93A stealth fighter drones and JQ11 stealth attack drones as well as large among of air superiority fighters such as J10C, J11D. Try defeating a stealth fighter drones, that can pull as many Gs as the airframe can take, in a dogfight. Stop living in the 90s already! Think forward! Not backward.
As it turns out, just copying the general shape of a plane isn't enough to make it work the same as the original. Nevertheless, it is disconcerting how often/easily Chinese espionage seems to be able to acquire this type of technology from U.S. and our European allies. While I lack your expertise, it seems the same thing has happened when you look at a Eurofighter 2000 Typhoon and a Chengdu J-10....eerily similar just looking at the aircraft's lines.
How did they get the blueprints ?
@MaxAfterburnerusa
Ай бұрын
Great question
@20alphabet
Ай бұрын
President Bribem
@robertbelardo7087
Ай бұрын
noroM@@20alphabet
@justinpaul163
Ай бұрын
Alex Hollings overed this over at Sandboxx news. I believe the TLDR is a combination of hacking and piecing together enough non-classified details to get an idea of how certain classified parts are put together.
@MuhammadAli-255
Ай бұрын
@@20alphabet the espionage case happened 10-15 years ago. Biden has nothing to do with it.
I have a few friends that fly or have flown the Raptor. China is closest to catching up to the F-22 5th GEN while we are about to unveil our upgraded F-22s and 6th GEN fighters. The Chinese are hopelessly out classed and out gunned. Like shooting chickens in a coop.
@beko23
Ай бұрын
Chinas new jets are considered to be 4.5 gen aircraft. They are still very behind developing a true 5th gen. Its not just Stealth characteristics.. its everything else that goes with it too
American aircraft are expensive-American pilots are even more expensive and best in class-always
@mr.righty6985
Ай бұрын
They don't have garbage like chyyyna
junk 35 belongs to the sewer.
@kamsunleong6648
Ай бұрын
Another F35 crashed in Albuquerque. Almost half of entire fleet is not operational due to maintenance challenges. Flop 35.
Our new army leaders, if you make a mistake it's ok ignore that missle and know you are totally a woman! This man is a brave former soldier we will have to beg to comeback and fight!
A 4 skyhawk????
F22's match gets downgraded from J20 to J35?
Do any of these foreign stealth jets even exist in service level units? Or is it like Russia with their fleet of 2.5 or whatever “Felons”.
@skeksis1085
Ай бұрын
China has a fleet of 5th gens that's about on par with USAF's Raptor fleet. The F-35 on the other hand... There are as many or more F-35s than all other 5th gen fighters combined
@johnsilver9338
Ай бұрын
@@skeksis1085 J-20 is NOT on par with F-22. Though it is certainly stealthy enough, its NOT as stealthy as even as F-35. Their is a 3rd party CAD simulation on Aircraft 101 that shows this.
@thomaswakefield6889
Ай бұрын
@@skeksis1085 LMFAO China only has 20 J-20s and only 9 of them are operational and in limited use because they all have engine issues that give the plane structural instability, which is the reason why China hasn't used them in their Western war against India
@dabo5078
Ай бұрын
@@thomaswakefield6889 They have around 250+ in 2022
F22 made to shoot down balloons, still miss.
The Vietcong only have machine guns and the U.S with A-4, A-7, F-8, B-52, F-100, F-105 and its primary nemesis, the F-4 Phantom II aircraft still lost the war ......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would you intercept me I'd intercept me
Yet you were never flight with other fighters sure u wanna be in the f22.🙂
The Fact that the Chinese have a new Jet as often as I have new socks tells me whatever they come up with doesnt have a chance at defeating our jets....whatsoever....its like buying an 18V drill form Harbor Freight vs. buying a Dewalt 18v.....there's just no comparison
Well the American pilot would have had experienced some sort of military action & the Chinese pilot has not… huge difference
F-22 Raptor or F-35 both different then FC-31 and J-31 because you haven't got the clear picture and specification of this new fighter jet as you support US fighter jets because you want to do big business with countries but I am assuming that America will never export Raptors and F-31 to other countries as it's garbage for them to use it because heavy duty expensive upgradations and other thing is that fighter jet is nothing if you restricted to some limitations. So wait for clear surprise and see how good FC-31 fighter jet then American Toys
so funny these chekwangs, they can even make edible fake plastic rice..wahhh.
@kamsunleong6648
Ай бұрын
True. Like their space station and their moon spacecraft on the back from the far side of the moon. Not bad if they are made of plastics.
It wouldn’t be a stretch of the imagination to postulate that given the objective and the available engineering & technology, that the results to achieve the design goals might result in a similar appearing airframe. Stealing blueprints and test data will confirm hypothesis while accelerating the development process. Questions of propulsion suitability in reliability, availability and performance become academic in fledgling aerodynamic applications. We’re seeing similar design concepts emerge from various countries determined to establish a presence in the stealth arena; South Korea and Turkey for examples. China has proven to be elusive in details for their systems. This hedging can be interpreted in several ways; are they ahead or behind? Open Source Intel is replete with as much speculation based on dissimilar technology as it is with intentional disinformation. As for an engagement, technology is a poor substitute for technique. It will all reduce down to mission planning. Somewhere out there in the dark sky is a hungry Raptor, sending a datalink to it’s Eagle missile trucks to have the first bite, and then… it’s all over for anything left over. And our adversaries know this, and to that end this will be the conundrum that they must solve should they be foolish enough to pursue an encounter in anger.
American parts vs Chinese parts...
What a poor video from a ex pilot---. There would be no dog fights---. The F22 and the F35's are not designed or programmed to get into dog fights even though they are great at it. The only thing then the enemy has to do is to come up with an extremely potent HOBS missile. Sir---you have not done your homework right---maybe you just wanted to please the crowd--- The very basics of the F22 / f35 training program from the start was for the pilots to think different---forget DOG FIGHTS and think BVR engagements---. Forget merges---shoot bvr and scoot---. The J31's will have PL15 and PL17's by the time they come out---.
US afraid of the FoxBat. Builds the F15. Find out FoxBat is shit and F15 is the scariest fighter ever built. So now what? Build a fighter that can beat f15s 6 v 1.
There are heaps of things that come to factor in.. But air combat is almost never one on one. so comparing tech specs is a bit of a wank fest (In my uninformed opinion)... My money is on those grey haired 40-50 sometrhing US pilots that have been jet jockeys that grew op on daddys crop duster. You know the old guys who now fly for airlines that go for fun to pylon racing in their weekends and pull sustained G that will make the 20 year olds feel like weaklings... A country that has no GA, and a culture based on things other than pure merit, Is gonna have some trouble with those oldtimers.
100% chineeeeesium. 🤥
F-35 F-22 J-30 Sr-71 J-35 forks spoons radios cars Nails space craft all made in China
Makes no difference. When China puts 50 in the air against two it's a moot point.
F-22 is old, flies/fights "ok" for an a/c whose requirements (ORD) were written in 1987 @ Langley when Big City Bob was the Commander. Currently (however) it's getting "long in the tooth", a bit of a maintenance hog and needs to be replaced sooner rather than later.
The more turbulent the world is, the more the United States benefits.
@Watchandcutgearchannel
Ай бұрын
Not this American! 😆
@fightfish3265
Ай бұрын
👻
@sweproductions1
Ай бұрын
Please elaborate more
Can't believe so called pilot still remains the age of dog fight, is that your instructor never told you the falling leaf only for the show, in real war its noting but sitting duck, a 30 years old Su37 can do much batter than your poser, no wonder US can not come our things like Pl12, Pl15, and "j35 has a pitot tube"😂, man I think you need a bigger Tv on you telephone to view the internet, other wise you still like the 586 computer on that f22s
WoW...what a waste of time on a video...there's literally NO COMPARISON between the two! Even if you put the Chinese pilot in an F-22 against an American in an F-22....it's STILL AN ASS WHOOPIN'! PERIOD. Why do people make these videos....U.S.Navy vs. "X" Navy.....they lose, everytime! U.S.A.F. vs. "X" Air Force.....they lose, everytime.
@mario-qq7bq
10 күн бұрын
I think you missing the point. It not to say the Chinese plain it better but more of monitoring Chinese progression in term of military technology. Even though the f35 and 22 are better plain the j 20 is still better than us 57 or than 4th generation plain. While it not top of the line. It a demonstration of progress. These Chinese jet are probably better than the French raphale. What this means is that Chinese technology has come a long way. Another issue with this comparison is that a dog fight between these two plain likely will never happen. If China invade Taiwan it will be with the use missile and drones.
The f-22 aesa radar have 200kms detection range for 1m2. The chinese aesa radar like the j-20, j16, j-15 and the j-35 have a detection range 300-350kms for the same 1m2 to use the pl-15, pl-17 and pl-20/pl-21 long range missile without an awacs. Like the russian su-57 have 400kms detection range radar and the su-35s have 350kms to fire the r-37 long range missile............ and this spec change everything! If they detect you first you re dead in real life. And an awacs cant help you because of the enemy long range. missile
F22 will win all day but it's retiring. Air Force is getting rid of it.
@MaxAfterburnerusa
Ай бұрын
I think they cancelled the retirement of the F-22 for now
@Exile-exe
Ай бұрын
The NGAD 6th, is insane from what has been divulged. It completely redefines the meaning of “air superiority”. There is a simulation of 18 NGADs vs 96 fighters, performed on DCS by Grim Reapers. US 18 NGADs (6 human Pilots, 12 AI drones, 2 AWACS) 1 squadron Rus 32-Su57, 32-MiG 31, 32-Su35 End result was 2NGADs lost. Vs 98 Rus aircraft lost Insanity! Check it out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpiKj9x_ZJbPdqQ.htmlsi=hqSE05PHxyofkXsv
@williamthornton5856
Ай бұрын
No, the Air Force wanted to retire 32 of the first run harder to upgrade F 22's. They NEVER wanted to retire the "entire" fleet. There are MAJOR upgrades going on form 2021 through 2029 for the Raptor, (all but 32). NGAD test bed activity in fact, is going to the F 22 NOT the F 35....
@MuhammadAli-255
Ай бұрын
They haven't retired the whole fleet. Only the earliest production block, the rest are geing upgraded as we speak.
Your facts about the stealth abilities of SU-57, J-35 and SU-75 are quite off base. Especially since the production model of J-35 has not even been seen yet.
J-31? TF are you smoking? China can't even field a fully operational J-20 let alone an airborne tanker. Both of their Aircraft carriers have limited range and the one that is home built can't even float properly let alone have functional catapult systems. in other words China can't push it's military power past Taiwan, Vietnam, and Japan. Hell the Japanese Air Force has more stealth fighters than China has J-20s let alone a fictional J-31
@MuhammadAli-255
Ай бұрын
Yes, they can keep an entire fleet of 250 j20s and nearly 30 y20 tankers operational. They have the money, expertise, and know-how to run an Air Force.
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