Muddstah: "I would like to cast..." Martin: "Nope"

@admanios

2 жыл бұрын

Muddstah: "It would be great if I could cast some spells, Martin." Martin: "You are casting spells. I'm just not letting them resolve." Muddstah:

Ah yes sitting right before the player with counterspells, always a fun seat

@hiddenleaf414

2 жыл бұрын

Technically that is the best place to sit since they would have had to wait through 2 other players turns and not counter any of their spells.

@treycuret

2 жыл бұрын

@@hiddenleaf414 Not "technically" it just depends. The seat before the counterspell eats a lot of unnecessary removal. If the counterspell player has to decide between countering something or not using their mana for that cycle, sometimes they just let it rip and your Skyshroud Claim eats a Spell Pierce.

@hiddenleaf414

2 жыл бұрын

@@treycuret How does the seat before counterspell players eat a lot of removal?

@Threadoflength

2 жыл бұрын

@@hiddenleaf414 like he described....

The table: does anything Martin: So, you have chosen death

Fun fact: even if Mana Clash deals lethal damage to one of the players, both of them have to keep going until they both get heads. The game won't check for SBAs until the spell is done. I would've laughed so hard if they both had been taken out by Mana Clash... 🤣

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

It would have been memorable, that's for sure!

Now I understand why Martin usually gets hard targeted in most episodes you upload.

I cannot stress enough how ridiculous surviving Martin's double Mana Clash was

I understood the Mana Drain on the Sad Robot for that turn 3 Locust God, but that Arcane Denial on Extus? Either that was salt from previous games, or Martin felt like being a bully.

@EtienneCitron

2 жыл бұрын

Countering a commander is probably amongst the most ultimate feelbad plays you can do

@chiflika9710

2 жыл бұрын

no, the mana drain on the solemn saw mean. I have a rule that i will never counter a ramp spell in the early game

@olafthemoose9413

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiflika9710 I mean it was mean but it probably was the correct play

@Nr4747

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiflika9710 He probably mostly did it to get the 4 mana for his Locust God - it was also the last chance to "cash in" Mana Drain before his turn came back up. Generally speaking, I always play a ton of instant speed card draw in any of my decks that contain counterspells for that very reason: So I don't feel forced to counter something before my turn comes back around.

His omenkeel deck is top contender for my favorite on this channel.

Max could've used Liquimetal Torque (One of my favorite cards to come from MH2) to turn non-artifact permanents like Rebbec into one thus saving them from interaction. I love how that deck looks. Might make one myself.

@BloodLegaZ

2 жыл бұрын

He tapped it for mana to cast mind stone. The ability is a tap ability so he couldn't activate it. I had thought of the exact same thing when I saw it happen.

Looks like Martin is not going to be invited to the next pod…lol

Martin seems like one of those players that falls into the sunk cost fallacy of "oh I held up mana for a counterspell so I HAVE to counter something or else it was a waste." So when no one casts anything worth countering they just counter whatever the player to their right (Andrew) casts regardless of how important it is to counter it. It sucks since all that removal is wasted and one person in particular gets fucked over for just coincidently sitting to the right of them. Edit: Though the mana drain does make sense for the turn 3 locust god, mana drain is a crazy card lol

@damo9961

2 жыл бұрын

Don't run lots of counters unless your deck functions at instant speed or unless they all cost

@TheMartianBotanist

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, countering Solemn is never the move. Granted, they weren't exactly missing a counter for anything important either, so maybe they just didn't want to lose with answers in hand.

I fucking love mono blue vehicles. It’s such a fucking great but absurd deck

That turn two mana drain felt targeted 😂.

@DarkEinherjar

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same at first, but then turn 3 Locust God happened.

ey yo, did you do something to martin? cause it seemed like he was just ognoring what was happening on Max's board in favor of countering your shit

Rules question: couldn't Liquimetal Torque save Ugin with Rebbec out, if it was made into an artifact? It would have had protection from 0 CMC thanks to the golem token, and wouldn't that have prevented the damage?

@Khelso

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it could have. Even if Max controlled an Aritfact Land (Mana Value 0), turning any of his permanents into an Artifact would have saved it.

Always love to see that omenkeel deck

I've always thought that Cosima looked like an interesting commander, and now I get to see him in action! 😄

@MM-lv7iy

2 жыл бұрын

‘Her

@nwind9594

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the most fun deck I have ever made. Would encourage it.

Uhhhh on T4 how does a 5/4 foundry inspector "bounce" with a 4/4 locust God? Both should die and Locus God returns to hand eot.

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

I think he miscalculated the power.

Martin singe handedly reminded me of why i hate blue players lol

@chiflika9710

2 жыл бұрын

When the game started i was for him because i love coin flip decks, but after that mana drain he become the arch enemy for me. I didn't care who would win just not him

@dizzyspell8197

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiflika9710 ikr? No flame Martin, but countering literally everything that ONE player tries to play is just... not fun lol

LMAO you mull down to 5 and yet you were getting target for no reason at all even when you probably were the least threatening player.

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

I talk a LOT of smack.

@dominiciannucci5217

2 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah as one should

@oofag2030

2 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah I appreciate the honesty

I was just now building a Cosima deck and this appears! the god of the voyage is with me

@nwind9594

2 жыл бұрын

Cosima / The Omenkeel is easily the most fun deck that I have ever made.

Martins counterspells were really unnecessery and it didnt look like much fun for you. Why didn‘t he want you to play Magic with him?

Never seen a solemn countered before 😆

I have a friend with a Cosima Vehicles, Landfall, Vehicles, Big Sea Monster deck and its so surprisingly good for a deck with 4 seemingly clashing themes

@ArxMega

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa, sounds fun, can I get a list by chance? 😁

After the third counterspell I was like: "Stop it! He is already dead!". Poor MTG Muddstah.

3:50 "-But it bounces off the Locust God and Max passes" *Does not compute...* Am I the stupid? Inspector is a 5/4 and The Locust God is a 4/4... ?

@MstrKipper

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah honestly no idea what happened there

@OGTahoe3

2 жыл бұрын

I was very confused too

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

I think there was a miscalculation of power. Sorry!

That was an awesome game. The selesnya artifacts deck was sweet

I love the Boat Bash deck.

That Locust god Mana drain synergy was almost scripted. Lugmoaw

No no no, there was never a line where you could wait and see if Martin had answers. I mean he countered you twice, he chose his demise.

“I’m sure some people would’ve said to pass to Martin” NOPE. Totally understandable to kill him after those counters lol

Ich Tekik registers all artifacts hitting the bin.

the only reason i can think of martin targeting andrew so much is because the extus deck is able to go off if unanswered? either way it feels like martin brought a 9-power deck to a pod of 6s

@adubiousnotion5118

2 жыл бұрын

More like a 5 vs 3s. That Yusri wasn't doing anything high-powered.

@DarkEinherjar

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, the only high-powered thing on Martin's table was the Locust God.

If I were you, after that Solemn Simulacrum counter, I would have said to all players, ok, I will go for 3rd place, after I eliminate this guy 🤣

At 3:48, wasn't the Inspector a 5/4? Why'd it bounce off the God?

@D-Boy22

10 ай бұрын

I thought the exact same

I hope you get to play a game with the Extus deck again!

Wow counterspell tribal. Fun.

Martin is an ass for countering that solemn 😂

i don’t know if i missed something but i thought that the omenkeel made it so you could play the lands not put them directly into play

Where can I find Martin’s deck list? It looks fun and would like to check it out, but it isn’t listed in the description.

YES! More Cosima content!!!!!!

Fun fact: when nick sacrificed Mind Stone, Max should’ve have put +1/+1 counters on Ich-Tekik and his golems, cause Ich-Tekik triggers whenever ANY artifact is put into a graveyard, not only his artifacts 😜

@mikeoestreich3333

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Come here to say that. I think Ich-tekik is really good agains treasure decks

Does martin have a link to his yusri deck? Would love to compare.

If you haven't played at the new location for Wizard's Tower in Barrhaven yet you should, they have a neat little area that they bake stuff and have coffee ready :P

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going today! It'll be my first time in over two years, not to mention first time in the new location.

@Huntath

2 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah Right on buddy! Hope you fun there, I haven't gone to Commander night there in a while, probably will on a less rainy mess of a day lol.

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

@@Huntath I'm hoping to go more regularly in the new year, depending on how things are looking with the pandemic.

Max could've saved his Ugin if he had used Liquimetal Torque to turn Ugin into an artifact... because he controls an artifact token, Rebbec gives his artifacts protection from mana value 0 as well, so Ugin would be protected against the Locust God tokens.

@caseywellington4761

2 жыл бұрын

That's so cool!

I would love to see your extus list! Maybe a deck tech on it?

Max’s deck is sweet and very unique, big fan

yay i never been this early to a video. Great game

I have a locust god deck, and whenever I have a mana drain I’m just waiting on someone to cast something for four mana

You have infected me. I am now building a Boros Goblin EDH deck.

I’m confused how come the foundry inspector and locus god didn’t trade ?

I love combat damage wins ... everyone did a great job here...if I'm dieing I'm going out on my own terms..see u next time...

At the 6:28 mark, Andrew plays two lands on one turn. What gave him the ability to do that? Did I miss something?

@TenPace

2 жыл бұрын

Ghirapur Orrery that Nick played the turn prior.

@Keos027

2 жыл бұрын

Nick's Ghirapur Orrery

9:37 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

Personally I stopped playing in pods were im done from everyone else and they still counter my stuff as I try to just play.

Martin passes on ugin but counters your commander? Cool cool cool I don’t love to see people lock out a deck in general even if the other two people weren’t doing much scarier stuff

@treycuret

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the Ugin he could very easily kill with his hasty fliers?

Please post the Yusri list. I need that deck!!

6:51 why does Martin have two land drops for turn?

@nickbond9526

2 жыл бұрын

From my Ghirapur Orrery, I believe

The play-mat Kickstarter ended yesterday 😓 it’s not available at the time of this video super disappointing

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

Ah sorry! I thought it went a bit more into the day than it did in the end.

Do you have the list of the Extus deck please ?

It is always bad when the person who mulled to 5 gets targeted...... :(

Why not drop coalition relic t1 as its one of the best ramp spells in the game

I love that, this card is just stupid. I want one of those. It will show my cousin and his dumb chaos deck.

Are these decks at the same power level??

Nice game :)

3/6 Demon?

7:17

I like Extus's design except for the hummingbird beak it has going. Looks really inconvenient for reading...in a plane about scrolls and books...

If you ever play the creature side of extus, you messed up

oof, countering the sad robot

@damo9961

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a miserable play, may as well just keep the counter in hand

You guys are also misplaying The Omenkeel trigger. Omenkeel exiles equal to the damage dealt, but it doesnt put those lands into play. It says you can "play" those lands as long as they remain exiled. So you could use those lands as your land for turn, but you dont just drop those suckers on the table. Thats not how that works.

@gapeape3895

2 жыл бұрын

he had ghirapur orrery. lets him play two lands per turn

@DarkEinherjar

2 жыл бұрын

Oblivion Sower causes all exiled lands the opponents own to drop on the field under your control, not just the ones exiled by its own ability.

@kenjitang1528

2 жыл бұрын

I’m assuming, you’re talking about the instance at 10:30. What let’s Nick put all the lands exiles by the Omenkeel isn’t the omenkeel but rather the oblivion sower. Otherwise Nick has been using the omenkeel correctly.

@gapeape3895

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenjitang1528 oh he was talking about that one. yeah thats a cool play, reminded me that sower plays all lands exiled, not just by his trigger. cool card.

@middknight5202

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenjitang1528 This is why i look at the comments, I didn't even realize that play! Very sweet!!

That stupid mana drain. Remember, every blue deck is a control deck.

Why is martin just burning counterspells for no reason?

@joeycrack1213

2 жыл бұрын

His plays were irritating to watch tbh. I understand countering relevant spells. But he seemed to just hate in Andrew for no reason.

@fallsenseless9699

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeycrack1213 that and he just seems to be the generic guy who counters stuff just for a reaction and to piss people off.

@em-jaelam4460

2 жыл бұрын

When someone Dark Rituals on turn 2, the Mana Drain starts to look real thirsty.

@kevinkennedy3643

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeycrack1213 yeah mama drain I kinda get as it allowed for a turn two locust god. After that just why? U literally have an active ugin on the table and u counter the guy with 0 board state

@DarkEinherjar

2 жыл бұрын

The Mana Drain on the Simulacrum makes perfect sense because of the Locust God. The Arcane Denial on Extus with almost no graveyard, however... yeah, it didn't make sense to me either.

👍

Sitting to the direct right of a blue player is just the worst...

Man I feel like there are way too many counter spells in magic.

That Yusri deck just looks plain no fun to have at a table.

Yusri decks continue to amaze/confuse me that they exist lol

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

I borrowed Max's deck.

Boat! Boat! Boat!

So when do we see Andrew play they must think oh hahaha Andrew got targeted so hard so funny when its actually very annoying I remember the times when he could at least ramp A little before he dies but now its like ah he breathed kill him now I don't want to be rude its just not as funny as your pod thinks

Lol so we call a buddy’s coin flip deck “good luck boys”. Effin mana clash

I’m not a fan of this kind of izzet decks. At least the commander itself is fun

*SPOILERS* Martin was being a butt this game. 1) Max played Ugin, and he ignored it. 2) Max played Rebbec, and he ignored it. 3) Max played Digsite Engineer, and he ignored it. Nick played pretty smart, not playing anything big while Martin had mana open, and then playing those things when he didn't. Also, I, too, like his deck. I'm not much for mono blue, but that looks like fun :)

7.8 Too much undeserved Andrew hate

whats wrong with martin and nick focusing on Andrew ? andrewdid nothing while everyone else is playing their game as normal ?? really dont like to see stuff like that because i know that situation very good.

Martin seems like a terrible person.

i don’t know if i missed something but i thought that the omenkeel made it so you could play the lands not put them directly into play

@Jonzin4BeatzNYC

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Shooting a text to a friend of mine who was a judge

@Jonzin4BeatzNYC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Herperof1000derps Around 6 mintes he plays Ghirapur Orrery allowing additional land drop and then around 10 minutes uses oblivion sower to play 4 our more lands. He played it correctly I just wasn't paying too much attention.

7:17