Extreme prototype board wiring techniques

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

This is a reupload of an original video made by ELM-ChaN, because the original is uploaded on a japanese video site which needs an account to watch videos. Everybody interested in electronics should watch this video, extremely interesting technique. This technique can be used for SMD prototyping to pin pitches as small as QFN packages.
Look here for more info:
elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html
And the original video:
www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22265444
Materials used:
- Kepton tape
- 0.2mm enamalled wire

Пікірлер: 143

  • @WingWong
    @WingWong9 жыл бұрын

    Some seriously bad-ass prototyping.

  • @Derrick6162
    @Derrick616210 ай бұрын

    Except the music, I find this satisfying to watch. Brings back memories of my younger days in electronics. Thank you.

  • @madhaha
    @madhaha9 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou very much for reuploading this. It makes ELM's process so much clearer!

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    9 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome! Nice to hear that you found it usefull!

  • @prashkd7684
    @prashkd76844 жыл бұрын

    Waring !! This hack requires extreme level of patience and eyes of a hawk

  • @dylankane5919
    @dylankane59193 жыл бұрын

    This is great for when society collapses and you can't get a pcb made

  • @a.ijuhasz135

    @a.ijuhasz135

    3 жыл бұрын

    U mean right now?

  • @bgtech-tips6826

    @bgtech-tips6826

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@a.ijuhasz135 lmao

  • @ingenierocristian

    @ingenierocristian

    Жыл бұрын

    Let me tell you that proffesionals on electronics use these types of prototyping all the time, because they need the prototype right now, and they don’t have the time in order to wait their PCB manufactured in China, for you amateurs, it’s ok to wait a week for a PCB, not for a company who spend millions!

  • @robowaifutechnician

    @robowaifutechnician

    Жыл бұрын

    Cope. If the company has many resources they'll have some kind of machine that can print custom pcb's anyways.

  • @Willow1w

    @Willow1w

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ingenierocristian any medium sized company is milling their own prototypes on cnc tf are you talking about

  • @fadli1987
    @fadli19878 жыл бұрын

    this is totally crazy, you have are very very very..... 1000x patient!

  • @FatNonsense
    @FatNonsense7 жыл бұрын

    what are you guys screaming about? Sure, it is tedious, but it is also not as crazy as you might think. You don't have to etch, no chemicals, you don't have to learn to use a PCB designing software. You don't have to drill if you want to use THT components. You don't have to plan ahead so the traces won't cross, (if you are using onelayered PCB) the wires are insulated and can overlap. You only need your components, the datasheets for the pins, a hole grid pcb, that wiring pen and you are good to go. And you can correct mistakes rather easily. Plus it is a work of art. The QFN package is too small for me too, but I think I can manage the bigger ones.

  • @eilizezila4650

    @eilizezila4650

    7 жыл бұрын

    well.. you can use the adapter to dip format and finish the job with some wire wrapping(buy it, diy) i'm pretty sure you'll find it more fast and relaxing ;) don't underestimated wire wrapping ^^ (workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/301_Discrete%20Wiring.html) it's always the ultimate tools to do reliable prototype

  • @BogdanSerban

    @BogdanSerban

    6 жыл бұрын

    PCB design is easy. And stop making pcb etching look scary, it's not like you're handling radioactive materials

  • @jordan3636

    @jordan3636

    Ай бұрын

    you can buy or make and order a adapter at this point. this isn't feasible lol. if you think it is you're crazy.

  • @NeoAnthony
    @NeoAnthony3 жыл бұрын

    Hands of a surgeon, patience of a saint!

  • @abcdefgh99697
    @abcdefgh996975 ай бұрын

    I can't believe I'm watching this legend at work. My mind is blown

  • @TURBOSLAYERPWNZ
    @TURBOSLAYERPWNZ3 ай бұрын

    I am so glad that I have cnc milling machine on my table that cost me just about 300 bucks. We live in a wonderful world.

  • @masso172
    @masso1728 жыл бұрын

    This is so extreme! unless I'm stuck somewhere and this was all I can do, I'm going with etching.

  • @SatyajitRoy2048
    @SatyajitRoy20487 жыл бұрын

    you will finally become a chip designer for sure!

  • @TWFactory
    @TWFactory8 жыл бұрын

    3 years for make one board :p Lot of works!

  • @yorkwoo8748
    @yorkwoo87488 ай бұрын

    Great ideas that I never thought.

  • @huseyin.goktas
    @huseyin.goktas8 жыл бұрын

    Well, you are very talented.

  • @pintumondal5819
    @pintumondal58195 жыл бұрын

    Good, You done great complex circuit soldering without mistake. Thanks.

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reupload

  • @michaelnobibux2886
    @michaelnobibux28865 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the ferrite core computer RAM's from the 1960's.Back then they used even finer wire!!

  • @BlensonPaul
    @BlensonPaul8 жыл бұрын

    perfection. .

  • @aubreymarsh2309
    @aubreymarsh23093 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible.

  • @jimviau327
    @jimviau3275 жыл бұрын

    You do that for an hour and if you are 60 your eyes will be out of focus for the rest of the day. Not for me, thanks. But it is quite a piece of art. Thumbs Up.

  • @artbyrobot1

    @artbyrobot1

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can buy a nine dollar USB microscope

  • @izzyramos-gunn9895
    @izzyramos-gunn98953 жыл бұрын

    What kind of glue is used to hold the chip down?

  • @midclock
    @midclock5 жыл бұрын

    This is precious.

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath3608 жыл бұрын

    What's that pen-like tool that spits out those jumper wires?

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    8 жыл бұрын

    +ArcanePath360 It is a homemade tool. You can make one yourself by disassembling a ballpoint pen and using the needle of a syringe. Glue the needle to the ballpoint pen shell, feed the wire through and you are done. You can add a small coil on top of the pen to contain the spool of wire, but that is mostly optional. There is not a lot of info about the construction of the wiring pen on the site of elmchan, but i hope this is enough info for you. Here is a picture of what the finished pen should look like: elm-chan.org/docs/wire/rc/wiring3.jpeg

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    8 жыл бұрын

    +tHaH4x0r Cool. Thanks a lot for that. What kind of wire is it?

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    8 жыл бұрын

    +ArcanePath360 32 awg UEW enamelled wire

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    8 жыл бұрын

    +tHaH4x0r Thanks!

  • @giantturno
    @giantturno8 жыл бұрын

    Hi what is the name for the pcb breakout adaptor for FPC connector?

  • @demoncloud6147
    @demoncloud61474 жыл бұрын

    "I'm the barbie girl" Japanese version ?

  • @homelessrobot

    @homelessrobot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds more like a really kawaii version of the meow mix song

  • @codejunkes4607
    @codejunkes46077 жыл бұрын

    why you left out bga chips :P

  • @user-gc6ug7xy1f

    @user-gc6ug7xy1f

    6 жыл бұрын

    XD

  • @bostonEddie1

    @bostonEddie1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I worked in the lab next to where bgas were developed. Such language trying to get the solder to stick on the leads properly! M y PIND got a workout!

  • @hashim710
    @hashim7108 жыл бұрын

    totally amazing!!!

  • @psps8030
    @psps8030 Жыл бұрын

    Great prototyping. Mitxela did this to.

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R.9 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, what a skill! NICE! I found this 0.1mm copper wire on ebay, only 1$ for two spools(2x15m)

  • @necoisidois7570
    @necoisidois75706 жыл бұрын

    Terrific! Thank you..

  • @John_Smith__
    @John_Smith__6 жыл бұрын

    Now that is some serious soldering capabilities. I would have to remember everyone that actually a small PCB is very very inexpensive to make these days. They can be as low as 1$ or less depending on size and options on the board (gold contacts and the like).

  • @apocalypticentity7012

    @apocalypticentity7012

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very old comment, but it's not about the inexpensive nature of the PCB manufacturing, it is the time it takes to get them without paying an arm and leg for postage. But for some people this is a better option than the extreme level of prototyping shown here.

  • @nichtverstehen2045

    @nichtverstehen2045

    10 ай бұрын

    @@apocalypticentity7012 nothing could justify doing that these days. it's like trying to start fire by using stones when there is a button for that on every gas stove. unless you're not using a gas stove. but i can see its even more advanced technology being used as if it's a stone age.

  • @bobweiram6321

    @bobweiram6321

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nichtverstehen2045Do you really believe Chinese PCB manufacturers are making money selling 4 layer boards for a few bucks per board with enough to spare for aggressive advertising? Do you really believe at that price there's enough customers to justify those absurdly low prices? There's a million and one far more profitable products and services businesses a company can invest your precious capital on than manufacturing dirt cheap PCBs at low volumes. An astute observer would be skeptical. China is waging an economic war on foreign industries by dumping cheap product and services. Once they've devastated their local industries, they'll raise prices again. They can afford to do this because the Chinese government subsidies their industries. Moreover, there may might be another reason. By manufacturing PCBs, they'll have access to proprietary designs they can use to make competing products. I've seen this in the past where web designers outsourced their HTML production overseas. After a few months, they discovered their clients no longer needed their services. The overseas HTML production had won them over with lower costs.

  • @NghiemVanTu
    @NghiemVanTu7 жыл бұрын

    very great!!! thanks you for show :)

  • @pplo
    @pplo8 жыл бұрын

    does he counts only on soldering to remove wire insulation? or does he treat the cable somehow before?

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pplobr Yes he counts on the soldering iron heat to remove the insulation. Although note that not all enamelled copper wire will strip at 330 degrees celcius (normal soldering temperature), for example the enamel of headphone wires often strips at around 380 degrees.

  • @tistimbilihyumbicumbio7169
    @tistimbilihyumbicumbio71697 жыл бұрын

    very good job!

  • @PissMasterPlus
    @PissMasterPlus8 жыл бұрын

    This is very pretty.

  • @lubeckable
    @lubeckable6 жыл бұрын

    Este men esta loco, son expertos bon son expertos

  • @andylasers7288
    @andylasers72886 жыл бұрын

    what is the copper wire that soldering removes the insulation. I want some.

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is called "enamel coated wire", "polyurethane enameled copper wire" or "enamalled wire". Sometimes it is also called 'magnet wire' since it is used for winding coils and transformers. The size used in the video is 0.2mm or 32 gauge.

  • @Rand0081
    @Rand00813 жыл бұрын

    What's the meaning of the japanese description when it says not to use the small solder tip?

  • @paulbelikh482
    @paulbelikh4828 жыл бұрын

    +good idea

  • @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
    @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc4 жыл бұрын

    And how many weeks took to finish a project that in case of something went wrong it is almost impossible to find the error and fix it?Just for impression only.

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can check out his website, elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html and see he has a lot of finished projects. Also, you have to realize that it has been only fairly recently that affordable PCBs have been available for hobbyists. Before that you didnt have a lot of choice except point to point wiring or strip board.

  • @planker
    @planker2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @bluestonebest1893
    @bluestonebest18938 жыл бұрын

    belles soudures, bien joué

  • @Tekromant
    @Tekromant8 жыл бұрын

    Fantastisch, absolute Meisterleistung!

  • @MrSabotax
    @MrSabotax2 жыл бұрын

    "They called me a madman"

  • @nikize
    @nikize6 жыл бұрын

    すごい!!!

  • @johntoe6127
    @johntoe61273 жыл бұрын

    This takes about as much time as ordering a breakout board from China and waiting for it to arrive.

  • @videoloves100
    @videoloves1005 жыл бұрын

    It is possible with lot of patience. I was able to solder smd led 5630 on perf board. Not to this level. But if out put is good, i will certainly do

  • @howajo
    @howajo9 жыл бұрын

    very clever.

  • @RaccoonEatingCacti
    @RaccoonEatingCacti3 жыл бұрын

    That wire pen idea has me pumped and kind of angry. mindblowing video

  • @0shoulders0
    @0shoulders07 жыл бұрын

    lovely man..........

  • @prometheus4130
    @prometheus41302 жыл бұрын

    Was this a new olympic sport?

  • @bostonEddie1
    @bostonEddie15 жыл бұрын

    Very nice! See you hold the chip down with something to keep it in place. Maybe use double sided tape or a dab of hot glue in the back? I'd have to give up coffee until my hands steadied!

  • @aleksbotler5358
    @aleksbotler53589 жыл бұрын

    Вот это терпение!

  • @primuss3s
    @primuss3s3 жыл бұрын

    монтажници в 73 цеху еще и не такое виделивали

  • @Bright8888
    @Bright88887 жыл бұрын

    What a painful way to make a circuit board! Before I started making PCBs, I used to do point-to-point wiring which was terribly time-consuming and back-breaking. But at least, the wires were of different colors and it was not difficult to see which pin was connected to which.

  • @lineuve
    @lineuve8 жыл бұрын

    Very nice, ninja art

  • @mojikarimi5717
    @mojikarimi57178 жыл бұрын

    and btw thats for the beatifull and usefull video

  • @mojikarimi5717
    @mojikarimi57178 жыл бұрын

    whats that copper pen called .i want to buy one so please if anyne knows just reply me .thnx im always on btw

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Moji Karimi See my reply to ArcanePath360 in this comment section for information about the pen. I don't think you can buy them, everybody i know (including myself) made our own. I provided a picture of the pen in that comment for reference. Also, thanks for your comment and kind words!

  • @mojikarimi5717

    @mojikarimi5717

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thnx for reply.i hope u or other guys whom made a pen look like this. Show me the steps or make a video regards.thnx

  • @flymario8046
    @flymario80466 жыл бұрын

    This is the most stressful video I have ever watched! Omg... you are a steely-eyed missile man. I would think that it would take a small impact to knock so many of those connections lose. And to think you have no shorts. Is there some enamel on the wire that burns off when you heat it?

  • @dir2002usable
    @dir2002usable Жыл бұрын

    what is the tool at time code 0:40?

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    Жыл бұрын

    It is a wire dispensing tool made out of a ballpoint pen. For more information, see my older comment replying to ArcanePath360.

  • @TheUrijiii
    @TheUrijiii7 жыл бұрын

    это же надо так ЗАМОРОЧИТЬСЯ !

  • @mikeshane2048
    @mikeshane20485 жыл бұрын

    WOw!!!

  • @juanurdaneta9237
    @juanurdaneta92377 жыл бұрын

    Damn jajaja i've got to try it!

  • @Karl_Papu
    @Karl_Papu6 жыл бұрын

    That work is hard, I think that is better design a prototype pcb, it's faster and easier than create a prototype connecting wires.

  • 8 жыл бұрын

    job art!!!!bit its not sure :)

  • @tvpostel
    @tvpostel3 жыл бұрын

    Total crazy:))

  • @RedstoneCraftPL
    @RedstoneCraftPL9 жыл бұрын

    Cool tutorial. What is name of song ? :D

  • @RedstoneCraftPL

    @RedstoneCraftPL

    9 жыл бұрын

    BTW: It actually helped me soldering!

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    9 жыл бұрын

    RedstoneCraft PL Good to hear! According to youtube the song name is "クローバー・クラブ - ゆうゆ"

  • @RedstoneCraftPL

    @RedstoneCraftPL

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! :)

  • @JochemNL

    @JochemNL

    8 жыл бұрын

    The song is ダルド - 砂嵐

  • @ocayaro
    @ocayaro7 жыл бұрын

    And I thought Bruce Lee was brutal!

  • @user-gc6ug7xy1f
    @user-gc6ug7xy1f6 жыл бұрын

    OMG! pcb making is not really complicated i swear!

  • @josephmazzulla646
    @josephmazzulla6465 жыл бұрын

    music is very disturbing

  • @julimaker4594
    @julimaker45946 жыл бұрын

    trabajo de chinos

  • @ruadeil_zabelin
    @ruadeil_zabelin6 жыл бұрын

    I came here for the music.

  • @nichtverstehen2045
    @nichtverstehen204510 ай бұрын

    that was scary!

  • @hemanthkumarHere
    @hemanthkumarHere6 жыл бұрын

    Why not develop a pcb ?

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    6 жыл бұрын

    Only since very very recently have PCBs become cheap enough for hobbyists. About 5 to 10 years ago, it was over 100$ to buy a single small sized PCB. Bless China for this recent development that makes your life a lot easier!

  • @monblan7
    @monblan77 жыл бұрын

    Mooonster! :-)

  • @madeariartha2546
    @madeariartha25467 жыл бұрын

    out of my imagination

  • @Penfold8
    @Penfold88 жыл бұрын

    My guess is he is using enameled 32 awg.

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Penfold8 Yes, he states that anything between 0.16 and 0.2 mm (32AWG) is fine. I myself use 32 awg as well.

  • @vant4888
    @vant48887 жыл бұрын

    You would better learn how to make a PCB

  • @ruadeil_zabelin

    @ruadeil_zabelin

    6 жыл бұрын

    For larger boards this can be very much cheaper though. A large protoboard with holes will cost you only 1$. Having a pcb made like that will cost you at least 10+$, while risking mistakes plus the additional time of designing the pcb.

  • @milolouis
    @milolouis7 жыл бұрын

    Hahahahahaha great music

  • @n.aminr.7175
    @n.aminr.71755 жыл бұрын

    and a working result not included? I can do that lol. too many potential of SC.

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    5 жыл бұрын

    Working results included in the website in the description

  • @VladVetrov
    @VladVetrov7 жыл бұрын

    Проще было плату вытравить и не извращаться так

  • @Frol189

    @Frol189

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vlad Vetrov это видео снято в 97 году, много ты тогда плат травил?))

  • @antonioferraoneto6681
    @antonioferraoneto66817 жыл бұрын

    It is much easier to make a pcb!

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Жыл бұрын

    of course it had to be Japanese.

  • @emremutlu44
    @emremutlu447 жыл бұрын

    This is why suicide rates are so high in Jp, chill man! order your pcb from your neighborhood! I have done smt like this before, for self-punishment, over ordering the wrong package of microcontroller ... (Did not work, sad)

  • @miniman2864

    @miniman2864

    7 жыл бұрын

    bit weird...

  • @edism

    @edism

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol silly guy

  • @eduardoanonimo3031
    @eduardoanonimo30315 жыл бұрын

    I hope that the authorities caugth you and keep you in a safe pshiquiatric away from people... My godness...

  • @typedef_
    @typedef_2 жыл бұрын

    Only to find out the design is completely wrong.

  • @derekwashuck7691
    @derekwashuck76917 жыл бұрын

    Why would you do it this way when there are way easier ways to prototype lol

  • @silviuturcu
    @silviuturcu7 жыл бұрын

    NOOOOOO|||

  • @opelfahrer22
    @opelfahrer227 жыл бұрын

    Quite trembling

  • @IHPU0
    @IHPU08 жыл бұрын

    Solders seems really weak

  • @ozgunkara1930

    @ozgunkara1930

    7 жыл бұрын

    couse they are

  • @igrewold

    @igrewold

    7 жыл бұрын

    He is just prototyping not entering a challenge with NASA!

  • @gortnewton4765
    @gortnewton47658 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear!!! Never heard of a socket, never heard of ribbon cable, never heard of PCB, never heard of pre-tinning (of copper wire), never heard of using a non-static clamp to hold chips (DON'T hold them in your fingers, as static electricity will demolish them). And you can easily make a little clamp from small-sized clips, never heard of wire-wrap (people still use it to rapid prototype). And can you imagine the fault-finding required to get that thing up and running when it doesn't work first time!!!!!! You'd spend longer on the fault-finding than building it. People, don't copy any of those methods.

  • @cycnus

    @cycnus

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Gort Newton Judging from the type of non-trivial boards being wired I assume that guy knows what he is doing. His technique has the advantage of keeping boards to a low profile comparable to a fully populated production board without compromising on space. I'm sure he/she's grounded when holding the chips, at least I'll give him/her the benefit of the doubt, clearly not an amateur. Wire-wrap is nice but parts and tools are harder to find and quite expensive nowadays, and the long pins required to wrap the wire make the whole board take up a lot more volume. All in all, it's a nice and cheap technique, maybe not right for you but still very useful.

  • @kevinkibbe2146

    @kevinkibbe2146

    7 жыл бұрын

    The guy isn't doing this cause it's fun. +Gort Newton comments are moronic. Sockets and WW don't work at high frequencies and as for easier to debug LOL.

  • @alakani

    @alakani

    6 жыл бұрын

    And yet, it works. U jelly?

  • @ivan868
    @ivan8684 жыл бұрын

    Most stupid method ever. Use PCB instead.

  • @DupczacyBawol
    @DupczacyBawol6 жыл бұрын

    Do not try it at home.

  • @proweb7271
    @proweb72716 жыл бұрын

    sorry, but it is absolutely and completely useless to do this laborious work. making a pcb house was much better and less costly in working time. and I'm not sure that it works your circuit !

  • @tHaH4x0r

    @tHaH4x0r

    6 жыл бұрын

    You should keep in mind that until about 5 years ago, making a PCB with a PCB house costed a fortune, at least more than 100$ per board if you were lucky. And that was just 5 years ago, this video was originally made in 1997, 20 years ago!

  • @chase6428
    @chase6428 Жыл бұрын

    I think id rather die than hand solder SMD chips with 60+ pins to a proto board. Their is a reason dev boards exist.