EXTREME (In)Efficiency | Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid | Test Drive

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

It speaks for itself that the faster you drive, the higher your fuel consumption is. This effect is already immediately noticeable on relatively small speed differences, say 130 kmh instead of 120. But what if we could compare 130 km/h against 315 km/h ?
Enter Porsche Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid in the sexy SportTurismo pre-facelift shape. 680 horsepower and 315 km/h vmax. Back in 2019 I had the car for a week and decided to do something else than a regular test drive. I had an appointment for a video shoot with Audi in Ingolstadt, almost 500 kms from the Nürburgring. My goal? Drive as fast as I possibly can there, and sticking to 130 kmh advised speed limit on the way back and in the end compare the two runs.
Topics and Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:28 Car and Setup
01:03 Disclaimers
01:56 FAST/ V-MAX Trip
09:42 Normal (130 km/h limit) Trip
14:08 Conclusions
16:07 Bonus: 100 km/h limit Test
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  • @KrustyCream
    @KrustyCream3 жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine having that much HP, an empty autobahn, and not making the pedal touch the floor mat. Props Misha!! 👏👏👏

  • @JoeAchilles1
    @JoeAchilles13 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video mate!

  • @rajjy1976

    @rajjy1976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers mate

  • @ksochacki
    @ksochacki3 жыл бұрын

    4:22 fuel tank is kept under negative pressure so the fuel shelf life is higher in case you drive a lot in electric only mode. Thats why sometimes you have to wait until pressure equalizes and the fuel cap opens.

  • @lswrpsahp8985

    @lswrpsahp8985

    Жыл бұрын

    so cool

  • @kikyoass

    @kikyoass

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip

  • @olfranca
    @olfranca3 жыл бұрын

    Amazed by how in 130km/h feels like you're stoped intl the midle of the road, as here in Brazil ir you drive this speed feels like you're speed of light comparing ta other cars

  • @piciu256

    @piciu256

    3 жыл бұрын

    Camera makes the speed look lower too. I cannot imagine zooming past a truck @90kph in the next lane when going 300+, it feels ridiculously fast when going 170 already :P

  • @wvth7850
    @wvth78503 жыл бұрын

    "Looking at you, Netherlands" :🤣🤣

  • @mauritsphilipse5884

    @mauritsphilipse5884

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stelletje gekken hier..... ‘co2 uitstoot reduceren’

  • @mgcharoudin

    @mgcharoudin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mauritsphilipse5884 ff de hele wereld redden met 17 mil man. Man man man.

  • @McRubiego

    @McRubiego

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mgcharoudin Waar en hoe heb je Nederlands geleerd?! Taalwonder Misha, Nederlands, Duits, Engels, Russisch. Legend!

  • @MacXpert74

    @MacXpert74

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mgcharoudin Precies, milieugekkies in Nederland denken dat ze de wereld kunnen redden. LOL!

  • @jankees4037

    @jankees4037

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it isn't allowed but I regularly drive 200+ in the Netherlands. When you know where the police is, it's quite easy. Some simple highway basics and rules and you can speed whatever you like. Just don't do it on the ringroad of Rotterdam or Amsterdam. But the long stretches towards away from the Randstad area, some are even better to speed that the German autobahns. Because of better asphalt quality, better views in long corners (Germany has many times bad views in long curves on autobahns) and also in Netherlands are less long lasting roadworks. That is indeed the disatvantage of Germany. Roadworks take so long.

  • @xxquackixx178
    @xxquackixx1783 жыл бұрын

    9:42 "And Mexico" made my day XD

  • @nadavelkabets

    @nadavelkabets

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why Mexico?

  • @JamalPennant
    @JamalPennant3 жыл бұрын

    really like the editing and presentation your doing here misha 👍

  • @RDSAlphard
    @RDSAlphard3 жыл бұрын

    Daddy's Porsche again? 🤣

  • @mgcharoudin

    @mgcharoudin

    3 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHA Great memory! Remember when car meets was a thing? Actually, Daddy's Porsche was the non-Turbo I had before this one.

  • @TheMilenkata

    @TheMilenkata

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mgcharoudin it was non Turbo yep :)

  • @jasin677

    @jasin677

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a dumb jelaous coment

  • @VisualCarReviews
    @VisualCarReviews3 жыл бұрын

    Such an interesting review, thanks! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @mgcharoudin

    @mgcharoudin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @dennislee9776
    @dennislee97763 жыл бұрын

    7:33 Misha: as you can see I’m fresh and fruity 😂😂😂😂

  • @larsheuchemer671
    @larsheuchemer6713 жыл бұрын

    "Looking at you, Netherlands", ouch that one hurts ;-(

  • @DavyR33
    @DavyR333 жыл бұрын

    My new favourite - Slavic Engineering Explained ♥️

  • @romka_ind
    @romka_ind3 жыл бұрын

    "There is high price attached to speed", don't do drugs kids! Listen what Misha told ya :)

  • @trdartz
    @trdartz3 жыл бұрын

    Really dig the glasses lol.. very suitable when explaining vehicle specs...Russian scientist look😁

  • @ianjames5505
    @ianjames55053 жыл бұрын

    Doing 300kmh an hour and still notice take time to love the scenery especially the sky!!! Many after my own heart Great video

  • @nirfz
    @nirfz3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! A few years back (2014) i did 634km through Austria and Germany with a 2010 E63 (the non turbo engine). 1/3rd of the distance was in germany and due to traffic 240kph was the max possible speed we reached there, while 130kph is the max allowed limit in Austria. And as a law abiding driver i kept to that. I did the whole distance on one fuel tank. (filled up before the start and at the end) and reached 11,12 L/100km. It was summer, the AC was running, we were 4 adults + luggage in the car and we stopped every 2 hours for a short break. (one of the adults was my 80+ year old Grandma) When looking at the numbers you reached with the Porsche, i am quite pleased with what the, at the time you recorded it, at least 9 years older 6.2 V8 without electric help, and without downsizing and coasting features is able to do. (i still have the car)

  • @MrSkyl1ne
    @MrSkyl1ne3 жыл бұрын

    This is quality content, don't shy away from it during prime season, it's a nice change-up now and then.

  • @MaliarMedia
    @MaliarMedia3 жыл бұрын

    Undoubtful proof it was recorded pre-corona: As you can see i'm fresh and fruity :D

  • @zloychechen5150

    @zloychechen5150

    3 жыл бұрын

    i wonder what's the freshness to fruitiness ratio

  • @Jimmythefish577
    @Jimmythefish5773 жыл бұрын

    It’s slightly weird how you’re morphing into a Robert clone......😂

  • @edimitris

    @edimitris

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @andras.89
    @andras.893 жыл бұрын

    "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" - and fast, with that Porsche :D Underrated Offspring album, loved to see it on Your playlist :)

  • @GeeMilner
    @GeeMilner2 жыл бұрын

    Just watching this, found it super interesting!

  • @RatiIamsopha
    @RatiIamsopha3 жыл бұрын

    Huge respect for doing this. Thank you!

  • @realelaverick
    @realelaverick3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, love how easily you can switch between fun track videos and more in-depth analysis like this.

  • @simracing7624
    @simracing76243 жыл бұрын

    This was better than most TV production car shows! Great work! Really smooth to watch

  • @danI43541
    @danI435413 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Loved all the detailed insights and POV footage. Enjoyed watching it - the long wait/edit payed off

  • @CarlMCL
    @CarlMCL3 жыл бұрын

    Quite interesting, glad you finally released it!

  • @armincekric7621
    @armincekric76213 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed watching this test, thank you Misha! 😊

  • @g9icy
    @g9icy3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love a comparison with a big BMW or Audi diesel, something like a 335d or equally big Audi.

  • @Max-Emig
    @Max-Emig3 жыл бұрын

    The review came up so good Misha! Really enjoyed this test, something you don’t have every day when seeing a (consumption) test in a car like that. :)

  • @KayJblue
    @KayJblue3 жыл бұрын

    The Sport Turismo is a true enthusiast dream car! And the Hybrid drivetrain adds some extra practicality, truly a good car and wonderful insight, thanks as usual for the Tier One content!

  • @4ArminTheGreat4
    @4ArminTheGreat43 жыл бұрын

    I forgot that i was waiting for this video, Thank you very much Misha !

  • @grant7336
    @grant73363 жыл бұрын

    I remember when you had this car and I knew you had more content from it. Love it!

  • @markuswagner370
    @markuswagner370 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Misha, that was really helpful. You clearly know what you are talking about.

  • @byTozR
    @byTozR3 жыл бұрын

    such a cool video, glad you decided to upload it even a year later :D

  • @Siskovski
    @Siskovski3 жыл бұрын

    Great video and nice analysis, cheers

  • @DZGAMING05
    @DZGAMING053 жыл бұрын

    i would like to see more of these kind of videos really enjoyed it , Thx misha !

  • @mikers73
    @mikers733 жыл бұрын

    Found your channel today. These are exactly the kinds of videos I'm looking for, especially for a Dream Estate. Thank you!

  • @Clarkyclarke1
    @Clarkyclarke13 жыл бұрын

    Proper cool vid Misha as always! 👌🏻🤟🏻

  • @edwardfrench945
    @edwardfrench9453 жыл бұрын

    Perfect family car. ❤️👍

  • @edwardfrench945

    @edwardfrench945

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed that upload Misha and great detail. Thank you Tier 1.

  • @charlesmartin6967
    @charlesmartin69673 жыл бұрын

    I tell you man, when you have more patience than me. If I see empty straight, I go BRAP BRAP ZOOOM! As always, amazing videos Comrad!!

  • @talalesmail
    @talalesmail3 жыл бұрын

    This video was great. Thank you

  • @mateuszdorocki5236
    @mateuszdorocki52363 жыл бұрын

    i've always wanted to know that, seriously! thx :D

  • @deavall1
    @deavall13 жыл бұрын

    I started watching Micha to switch off from the current situation. Great no brainer but sensible coverage of the Ring and others. Keep up the great videos, really good work. The measures/conversion in the video are very informative:-) Night driving at 315kph on the Motorway/Interstate/Autobahn/Autoroute etc. is certainly an eye opener!

  • @sickjohnson
    @sickjohnson3 жыл бұрын

    Super Jelly Misha, that looked like a friggin blast and a half! #KickTheTiresAndLightTheFires

  • @telomnisi3048
    @telomnisi30483 жыл бұрын

    Man you deserve a million subs. One day I'm coming to visiting you in Germany for a Nordschleife experience :)

  • @reventonlp640
    @reventonlp6403 жыл бұрын

    I prefer this kind of presentation. Great video misha!

  • @looped7979
    @looped79792 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for your resarch

  • @DanijelTurina973
    @DanijelTurina9733 жыл бұрын

    A Volvo V60 D3 owner: Sees fuel bill. Is in shock.

  • @jankees4037

    @jankees4037

    3 жыл бұрын

    But then again your diesel doesn't do 300+ or 250+ or even 225+.

  • @DanijelTurina973

    @DanijelTurina973

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jankees4037 It does 220, which hardly matters since the speed limit is 130 where I live.

  • @chris7605

    @chris7605

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well...when you can afford a 150k euro car, i'm pretty sure you don't care the gas bills. There are much more efficient cars with diesel engine that can have an average speed very similar to that Porsche. In 2010, i got a Cayenne S for 2 weeks. I kept it most of the time in the garage (20 l/100km). I prefer to have a 911 and a medium diesel car at my disposal.

  • @ffrreeddyy95
    @ffrreeddyy953 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Nice to see that the 680hp Porsche needs as much fuel at 130 as my Cupra 🥲

  • @bobstarr
    @bobstarr3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Random facts! :) I just got a speeding ticket two weeks ago and if I get another excessive speeding ticket in the next two years they can take my car away for two months. This time it was only a week. I am now learning how good fuel consumption is at the speed limit.

  • @mohammadal-abbasi7247
    @mohammadal-abbasi7247 Жыл бұрын

    That was so interesting. Thanks!

  • @erne-7035
    @erne-70352 жыл бұрын

    such an informative video. Loved it..thanks man!

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers3 жыл бұрын

    Great, this was so interesting to watch. I hope to see similar stuff in the future

  • @berniehf
    @berniehf3 жыл бұрын

    Great great video Misha!

  • @n.danishsamuel2497
    @n.danishsamuel24973 жыл бұрын

    A Test we never needed but now we do...👍

  • @m1keY_YOUTUBE
    @m1keY_YOUTUBE3 жыл бұрын

    excellent, nice review - interesting to see and hear !

  • @JJaguar001
    @JJaguar0013 жыл бұрын

    Good guy! Good test! Thanks ;)

  • @tohany4free
    @tohany4free3 жыл бұрын

    Just casually cruising at 310km/hour Unreal machine 👏 Great video 👍

  • @soifranc
    @soifranc6 ай бұрын

    Excellent video - well done!

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake79153 жыл бұрын

    Mooi wetenschappelijk onderbouwd Misha.

  • @BiglumpADV
    @BiglumpADV3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, really interesting to see the real world difference.

  • @patrickbrady5153
    @patrickbrady51533 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid glad you endured the trip home. Pretty cool to watch u drop mpg at end

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    this is the best content from a automotive youtuber I have seen for a long long time! real car guy doing real car guy stuff. you should drive more on the road, thank you

  • @MrE30
    @MrE303 жыл бұрын

    Evening Misha that was a well calculated fuel consumption review

  • @wessengel9182
    @wessengel91823 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video

  • @carsfriendsandfood8150
    @carsfriendsandfood81503 жыл бұрын

    That was pretty interesting ! I’m subscribed now! Thank you for that video.

  • @padraigg9508
    @padraigg95083 жыл бұрын

    great video Misha. Shows there is a car that does most things pretty well.

  • @hunterprey5338
    @hunterprey53383 жыл бұрын

    I drive myself a panamera 4s diesel pre facelift. That car can go over 1000 km with a full tank. These high horsepower petrol cars are fun for 1-2 hours but long distance travel is made for powerful diesel engines. I had a bmw 7 g11. That thing went 220 km/h and had like 1900 rpms. But neverless this thing is a beautiful heavy beast. Propps to the quality of the video. There is nothing more beautiful than a empty autobahn and a car like the panamera.

  • @sstetsiv

    @sstetsiv

    Жыл бұрын

    its fact - bmw 7 with 3 litre diesel is one of most efficient car

  • @Banana-Joe007
    @Banana-Joe0073 жыл бұрын

    Sehr interessantes Video. Thank's! Have a nice evening ✌☺

  • @zakaria4988
    @zakaria49883 жыл бұрын

    GENIUS!!!

  • @shukriaidil7505
    @shukriaidil75053 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I think we need more video like this for guide us what car to buy for long drive.

  • @christophechanterault441
    @christophechanterault4413 жыл бұрын

    Bravo for this (fast and not furious) test Misha. Both variations of a theme, really interesting. This could become a standard, like doug scores.

  • @edmurth
    @edmurth3 жыл бұрын

    That was really interesting, Misha. It was funny seeing you pop up on Super GT’s stream over the weekend.

  • @EpicKillstreak
    @EpicKillstreak3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video Misha, I always wanted to see comparison like that. Was wondering how much quicker and more expensive it would be if I had access to the unlimited (even not all the time) road to drive. And now I know, thank you for that :)

  • @shaunwhitfield112
    @shaunwhitfield1123 жыл бұрын

    Class video misha 🙌🙌what a car 😎great vid as ever nice mixing it up content wise 🙌🙌🙌😉

  • @maereanm
    @maereanm3 жыл бұрын

    4:20 . it takes a few seconds for the gas cap to open because the gas tanks in PHEVs are pressurised and hermetically sealed. a PHEV can drive for months in electric only so the gas tank must trap the vapors that may form.

  • @fernandovillarreal4982
    @fernandovillarreal49823 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite cars...

  • @v12hybridrally70
    @v12hybridrally703 жыл бұрын

    Love this car!!!

  • @Pedro5antos_
    @Pedro5antos_3 жыл бұрын

    5:40 AWESOME content, Misha

  • @rjnation5042
    @rjnation50423 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video mate, also love that car especially in the shaggin wagon, they look excellent, Rj watching from Oz

  • @louistotaal4105
    @louistotaal41053 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Micha

  • @petripaavola819
    @petripaavola8193 жыл бұрын

    Very nice and informative video. Thank you Misha! I really like the fact that you did the return trip on sensible 130kmh speed which is very much applicable here in Finland at highways. This allows me to estimate how much such a car would consume and also gives idea how would be the panamera 4 e-hybrid sport turismo perform (I'm considering purchasing one).

  • @Scalachi123
    @Scalachi1233 жыл бұрын

    That nite view wicked..sweet ride

  • @DakeAit
    @DakeAit3 жыл бұрын

    I like this bro science analysis)) Миша красавчик!

  • @exiownage
    @exiownage3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea for the comparison 👍🏻

  • @jtl789456123
    @jtl7894561233 жыл бұрын

    Just love that car

  • @jonty4664
    @jonty46643 жыл бұрын

    Smooth 👊🏻🥨

  • @Tom-iu7vv
    @Tom-iu7vv3 жыл бұрын

    great video!!

  • @2beCuil
    @2beCuil3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool!

  • @XTrojanClauseX
    @XTrojanClauseX3 жыл бұрын

    Niceee , this is actually really fun , I do it all the time ( fast vs slow driving)

  • @igi2000
    @igi20003 жыл бұрын

    Great work

  • @ramsey6253
    @ramsey62533 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @revmatchtv
    @revmatchtv3 жыл бұрын

    I miss the Autobahn! Cool comparison :)

  • @MT-vh6hd
    @MT-vh6hd10 ай бұрын

    Great video man! Lets get your channel to 1million subs!!!

  • @964tractorboy
    @964tractorboy3 жыл бұрын

    Echo: surprisingly interesting video. "Sport Plus, bye!"

  • @RyanHarris77
    @RyanHarris772 жыл бұрын

    Nice observations. I actually like the low ISO night time exposure. Germany is beautiful.

  • @shanescarlife
    @shanescarlife3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your suffering on the way back, Misha. Lol!!!

  • @luckyluc8890
    @luckyluc88903 жыл бұрын

    Damm i didn't know it was that expensive!! Great video

  • @DanSallis
    @DanSallis3 жыл бұрын

    This is a very interesting video Misha. It makes sense that the fuel efficiency does not decrease with the same proportion the speed increased which I will explain below if anyone is interested. The first part is that the relationship between fuel efficiency and speed is non-linear mainly due to the non-linearity of the resistive forces with increased speed. These resistive forces in modern day vehicles are typically dominated by air resistance. The formula for air resistance at a given speed is Fd = 0.5*p*(v^2)*Cd*A. In this case (assuming the air density is largely the same between runs) "p", "Cd" and "A" are constant values and can therefore be excluded for this comparison. This means that the drag force (Fd) is directly proportional to the square of the velocity (v). If we put some numbers into this theory, we can show that the linear relationship between 102 km/h and 164 km/h is ~1.61 whereas the relationship of the squares is ~2.59. This means the engine is having to do 2.59 times instead of 1.61 times more work just to overcome the increase in air resistance. Why is this relationship of the squares (2.59) not the same as the relationship of the fuel consumption figures (3.37)? Well, this leads to the second part, the ratios are not the same because combustion engines are designed to be more efficient at certain RPMs, usually cruising RPMs in the region of 2000 to 3500. I am not a chemical or powertrain engineer, so I cannot comment further on specifically how this works or why this range is chosen. However, what it means is that the RPM at 102 km/h is causing the engine to be relatively more efficient than at 164 km/h (made worse by the fact Misha was driving for some parts at 315 km/h with revs higher than 6000 RPM).

  • @paulkrapp
    @paulkrapp3 жыл бұрын

    High increase of fuel usage explained...please bear with me. We don't live in a vacuum. Air density is about 0.001225 g/cm cubed. The frontal area of a Porsche Panamera is 2.33 m squared. The drag coefficient of a Porsche Panamera is 0.30. At 300 km/h the drag force is 2,973 Newtons. While traveling at 130 km/h the drag force is only 558.3 Newtons. In fluid dynamics, whether it's air or water the drag increases exponentially as speed increases. This is why it takes three times the fuel to drive 300 km/h. Thanks for the video Misha, I enjoyed it.

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