Exposing The BIGGEST Supplement Scams
The supplements industry has exploded, reaching almost $400 billion dollars just last year. But how much of the bodybuilding supplements industry is a scam? Protein powder, creatine, multivitamins, athletics greens, BCAA's, fat burners, etc. What gym supplements actually work and what doesn't? Today I’m testing the most popular workout supplements, comparing their claims against real scientific data. I’ll show you what scams to avoid and which gym supplements research says you should use instead. Starting with one that may come as a surprise … creatine.
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Americans alone consume well over 4 million kg of creatine yearly. But many companies have been taking advantage of this trend. Up to 30% of people naturally have high levels of creatine, which is why about 1 in 4 don’t see any performance benefits from it. But that’s only part of the story.
Often, companies selling workout supplements use complex terms on their creatine products to impress or even confuse buyers, and make their products seem a lot better than they actually are. Then, they bump up the price, and people think it “must be better”. But many of these expensive creatine forms are less effective than creatine monohydrate. And a lot of times they aren’t tested for safety either! So, does this mean you should stop taking creatine? Not necessarily.
But to avoid the gym supplements scams, you’ve gotta make sure you’re picking the right kind. For now, research has consistently shown that just plain old creatine monohydrate is not only the safest and most effective, it’s also the cheapest. Just try to get one that’s been third-party lab tested so you can be sure of what you’re actually consuming.
BCAA supplements may be one of the oldest scams in bodybuilding. BCAAs only contain 3 amino acids: leucine, isoleucine, and valine. So, providing your body with too many BCAAs might actually block other amino acids from being used, potentially hurting muscle recovery and growth.
But I know you might be wondering: if this research on BCAA’s is 10 years old, why do top brands still sell them as bodybuilding supplements? Well, that’s exactly why. Because they sell. That said, here’s a pro-tip: if you do want to supplement amino acids, EAAs, or essential amino acids, are a much better option. EAAs include 9 of the most important amino acids rather than 3. And they can be especially useful for vegetarians or those who like to work out fasted. But here’s how I see it. If you eat well and get enough protein, neither BCAAs or EAAs are very likely to help much. And that actually brings us to the last scam to watch out for, and the latest supplement craze taking over the internet.
Green supplements are supposedly an easy way to get your fruits and veggies in without having to chop, blend, or cook anything. But there’s been little to no evidence supporting green powders’ supposed health benefits. They also make use of deceptive nutrition labeling practices, such as the use of unregulated terms like “superfoods” and stuffing the product with water-soluble nutrients, to make them sound better than they actually are.
Some of you might now be thinking “green supplements are better because they’re sourced from whole foods”. While that is true, research has yet to show this makes any difference. Even if you “extract” the nutrients from whole foods, you still lose a lot of what makes them so good for you in the first place. Because of this, as of 2018 the Public Health of England declared that greens powders do not count towards your “5-servings-a-day.” of fruits and veggies. And that’s part of the problem. Because of how green powders are marketed, many people think they can rely on these supplements instead of eating real food. Whereas eating enough servings of fruits and vegetables a day has tons of strong evidence showing it improves health, body composition, gut health, digestion, longevity, and pretty much everything else you can think of.
So while it’s possible a greens powder may provide a small benefit for those who eat very little fruits and vegetables, it’s not a replacement. And it’s definitely a lot more pricey than a simple multivitamin.
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Hope this helps with your purchasing decisions! See below for a list of the studies mentioned in the video: 1 IN 4 PEOPLE ARE CREATINE NON-RESPONDERS: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15320650/ ANALYSIS OF 175 MOST EXPENSIVE CREATINE SUPPLEMENTS ON AMAZON: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9761713/pdf/main.pdf EFFECTIVENESS OF CREATINE ETHYL ESTER VS CREATINE MONOHYDRATE: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2649889/ PREVALENCE OF HIDDEN SUBSTANCES IN SUPPLEMENTS ON THE MARKET: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9054437/ “GAA” MAY BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN CREATINE MONOHYDRATE: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9761713/pdf/main.pdf 1990 STUDY ON BCAAS’ EFFECTIVENESS: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7723664/ ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS ARE A BETTER OPTION THAN BCAAS: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27053525/ ATHLETIC GREENS STUDY: drinkag1.com/learn/research/scientific-research GREEN POWDERS DON’T COUNT TOWARD “5 SERVINGS A DAY” OF FRUITS AND VEGGIES: www.asa.org.uk/rulings/racing-greens-nutraceuticals-ltd-a18-443816.htm HEALTH BENEFITS OF EATING ENOUGH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3649719/
@jcrider392
24 күн бұрын
Hope you get this.... any thoughts on future potential, good and bad. Of SARMS?
@clubbizarre
23 күн бұрын
i am a responder. i love the stuff to break through a plateau and keep going
@TeunLos
22 күн бұрын
Athletic greens study is not a study, that's what every marketing team says about their product.. and with 0.1 gram per ingredient... it's just a SUPER expensive multivitamin.
@hspd8607
22 күн бұрын
Do you know something about peptides?
@user-gj4ez6qj2z
21 күн бұрын
@JeremyEthier 1. Can you recommend a pure, third party tested creatine monohydrate? It seems like there are different types of third party testing. 2. Is there a test that can measure your natural creatine level? If so, what is it?
When multiple influencers say that something is good and get paid for it.... RED FLAGS
@Martyn_Wolf
23 күн бұрын
Jeremy would come under that when he promotes his own stuff then lol
@cenciende9401
23 күн бұрын
You follow multiple influencers? lol
@squidikka
23 күн бұрын
@@cenciende9401 You're watching one right now?
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
22 күн бұрын
Exactly
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
22 күн бұрын
@@squidikkaJeremey is not one
The thing I noticed with these green powders is they usually have stevia and green tea extract/caffeine , which gives you the illusion of an energy boost and keeps you coming back for more.
@emirobinatoru
24 күн бұрын
That's why the vegetables my mother cooks are superior Edit: autocorrect failure
@emirobinatoru
24 күн бұрын
@@bbbnnnddd But with a huge drop
@elbojoloco
23 күн бұрын
@@bbbnnnddd The illusion he is speaking of is not the caffeine itself, it's the idea that the energy boost is provided by the nutrients in the powder rather than just the caffeine. In other words, the only incentive for the creators to even include caffeine is to make up for the lack of energy the supplement would give and to indeed make it more addictive.
@TootieFruutie
23 күн бұрын
@@elbojolocoyou get it 👌🏽
@nab5999
23 күн бұрын
@@bbbnnndddthen just take caffeine alone lok
$100 a month is crazy just for some green powder.
@MK-qr3fg
24 күн бұрын
A great alternative is Green Vibrance by Vibrant Health. Only $30 a month and I’ve been taking it for years. Swear by it as it keeps me regular, provides probiotics and boosts my immune system. I used to take it off and on and every time I stopped taking it, I always got sick. Now I take it every day and haven’t been sick for years.
@MHWGamer
24 күн бұрын
is it now even more expensive than before? I thought it was around 80 bucks and that was already ridiculous expensive
@Marco-cl9pb
23 күн бұрын
it's still working for them, they also investing a lot in marketing, it's their strategy
@PsilocybeJedi
23 күн бұрын
yea but it helps me out soo much
@user-uy3tm9ee5l
23 күн бұрын
It's worth it technically. It's very high quality, people just need to understand it's a luxury. Like trying to eat all organic, grass fed and finished meat will also cost you more
Influencers and podcasts have been the driving force of all the products you just mentioned. Thank you for breaking this down into an understandable format that once again proves proper nutrition and common sense is what we all need.
"Increase the financial value of your urine " 😂. Great info
@pprich1
24 күн бұрын
I got a laugh out of that too lol so true though!
@MHWGamer
24 күн бұрын
and then takes a big sip of a urine like fluis 😂
Now I don't know your other content, but if this is your average content, you certainly deserve all your subscribers and got another one. What a breath of fresh air. I just love it when I find some new resource that doesn't completely sell out, lie, advertise scams and so forth. Thanks a ton, hope you keep it up!
Amazing how many KZreadrs will picture Optimum nutrition’s gold standard whey in their thumbnail as click bait and then not say anything about the product in the video. This is because they know it’s the number one seller on Amazon and people want information about it and then they don’t deliver.
@tribzman3977
20 күн бұрын
Yeah, and company knows it too. Their price increase was HUGE compared to a few years ago. I now buy the 10lb bag instead of the 5lb container to eek out a slightly better value in the long-term . But yeah, they know they are the most popular and taking full advantage of it. Grrr..
Thanks for always looking out for us Jeremy. You could do an entire episode on how bad strength cartel product is…
Proof that one definitely has to be very careful about what you choose to put in your body.I have always kept it basic when it comes to products.Gotta do your research.Great post.🙌🏻🙏🏻😊
This was a much need video, thanks!
Long story short. Except from creatine No Supplements needed if you have calculated diet
@JaegerDreadful
22 күн бұрын
Whey protein as well.
@unjaded2
22 күн бұрын
wrong , you do you though
@himeshsinghshishodiya
22 күн бұрын
Or a medical issue. Or deficiency. You also don't "need" creatine.
@Voidermusic
21 күн бұрын
Not even creatine. Just workout, eat, drink and sleep well - no bullshit.
@peachystonerlol
20 күн бұрын
Damn almost like they're supplements or something
REALLY REALLY THANKS FOR THE INFO MAN
Thank you for this video. You're the most well spoken fitness guru on YT. You're the one I trust the most because you illustrate what you're explaining with scientific proof. All of your videos are well edited, too--no bloat (pun intended)!
Eye-opening video. I have all of these, BCAA, FA SuperGreens. All that stuff lol. Been feeling the same.
@Itsmekvn
23 күн бұрын
Get off that bro. Creatine youre good to go
Dear Jeremy, I respect you even more after this video. I try to explain all you points to my clients and family and absolutely none of them knew about how they were getting scammed for years from these companies. I hope your style of content never changes, you’re the realest there is
Short, solid and quality content. Thanks Jeremy!
Thanks for the info man. 💪🏾 Be careful you’re gonna have these mega companies trying to silence you after this! 🤣🤣
I love your videos. Watching you for a while now (5,5 years). Very informative video with science based fact with a focus on costs. In fact I like all your videos. All the best and keep going, greetings from Germany. 👏👏💪
Thanks for clearing the air on this!!!
Jeremy getting a lot of enemies in 3…2…1 💥
The best natural supplement you can get also happens to be free: 7+ hours of sleep daily. This does wonders for your strength, energy, and overall recovery.
@wojtask2042
18 күн бұрын
That's absolutely true!
@vincecowlishaw
17 күн бұрын
Recovery with sleep or an off day from pumping iron is the most under rated piece of advice
@defaultworkouts
16 күн бұрын
preworkouts work. so does protein powder. those are not fake nor lies. creatine the same.
@BillBiggs1
14 күн бұрын
Thanks Steve. I mean who would have thought of that.
@halivudestevez2
5 күн бұрын
that does not pay
Thanks for this! I am old enough to have seen too many trends come and go, so I focus on real food. 😉
The one I am curious to know is Protein Powder, I've seen a ton of vids of bodybuilders share their opinions about Protein Powder. I've heard that some protein powder brands can scam you because of unnecessary ingredients, feeling ur body weird, not enough emphasis for ur muscles, fat loss, or even losing weight, but that doesn't mean all the brands suck! Don't get me wrong, Protein Powder is great for building muscle and losing weight, but I want to know which brands scam you and which are better! U r awesome Jeremy, keep up the amazing work 😎😎😎
At this point, the good feeling from buying and wearing a new workout shirt may be better for our workout
Thanks for clarifying what we already suspected. The AG1 stuff is an expensive way of just eating right!
@leoceoliveira
10 күн бұрын
no, it's just expensive.
Thanks man! I was actually thinking about buying some "green powder".
A very interesting and informative video. You had me scared about Creatine for a minute, you saying that it wasn’t safe or something, (thank goodness). Makes you think twice about these.
Since i watched the John Oliver segment on this kind of stuff i learned that its super under regulated and they can basically lie to you about what's in the stuff they sell you. Makes it hard and worrisome to find an actually good product especially since people can be bought to help sell the lie
Multivitamin and caffeine(your choice, it can be preworkout or coffee). Maybe protein powder just to cash in your daily grams. That’s all you need. 🙏
@user-uy3tm9ee5l
23 күн бұрын
Creatine is the best supplement that you can take, it's been proven more than any other study. Just have to be careful as it has the most window dressing and snake oil around it. Get plain creatine monohydrate from a reputable company
@j00f
23 күн бұрын
@@user-uy3tm9ee5l But like was said in the video, not everyone actually needs even creatine supplement. Because just as some have naturally high testosterone levels, some have naturally high creatine levels. I used to take around 4g of creatine / day, but when I took a blood test, my creatine levels were much above normal. I decided to cut down to 2g and haven't felt any difference from this.
@Vlad-bs1js
21 күн бұрын
@@user-uy3tm9ee5l There seem to be plenty who report hair loss from creatine use, although I don't have the slightest idea what % of the users they represent. As a general rule of thumb, it's probably best to leave things as nature intended them. If you can become strong and jacked without creatine, what's the point in using it? It may give you a small boost and help you reach your peak earlier, but if you're lifting weights for the right reasons it doesn't really matter as you're going to do that for the rest of your life.
@Nawras672
21 күн бұрын
@@user-uy3tm9ee5l That's the problem. How do you know what companies are reputable?
@JayeobaAdeleke
20 күн бұрын
What about WHEY? Creatine is too expensive here, so am thinking of getting WHEY.
thanks for explaining this 💪
Excellent analysis!
You're being wayyyy to kind regarding AG1. :) LOL! There is so much all over KZread knocking them down, especially serious concerns regarding their owner/creator. Even Dr. Rhonda Patrick PhD said "it seems to just be another way to get vitamins". Great video by the way!
@Actias1974
22 күн бұрын
He may want a sponsor
The FDA is like the FAA and Boeing.
@rickywilliams7103
24 күн бұрын
Man, this is accurate!
@ahmednassar8514
24 күн бұрын
FDA is concerned about drugs, treatment not supplements so you can basically put grinned lemon seeds in a fancy bottle and advertised it as a supplement though there is some supplements that are verified by FDA it is not obligation
@TheBooban
24 күн бұрын
@@ahmednassar8514 isn’t the F in FDA “food”? Maybe they don’t understand their mission, just like the FAA didn’t, or is there another agency?
@eric-running-to-chamonix
24 күн бұрын
Supplements became unregulated with DSHEA in 1994. Corruption at its finest.
@yellowbeard1
22 күн бұрын
@@TheBoobanThey would need a lot more people, a higher budget and permission to go after companies for supplements that aren’t putting people in the hospital. Look up the political shitstorm that happened the last time the government went after vitamins companies for misleading claims and you’ll see some context for why they don’t do that anymore.
this video is why i follow you man! Waiting for more like this!
In places that is not the US. If you put something on the packaging stating nutrition facts and benefits and found to be lies companies face huge legal fines and could be banned from selling their products in that country. In the US they can say what ever they want it seems.
Remember to look at the mineral wheel! Sometimes cramming all those minerals together counteract!
This is why i watch your videos man, you keep it honest. Thanks homie!
@jeremyEthier can you cover protein powders and pre workout on another video? 🙏
@user-uy3tm9ee5l
23 күн бұрын
Sunwarrior and Ascent are great, clean brands. Not load up with a bunch of fake artificial crap
Thanks for another great informative video! 👍🏼 I really wish I knew about the BCAA’s a long time ago, I would’ve saved a lot of money 😫
I haven't seen any research on how BCAAs help workouts, and I think this is the first I've seen saying they harm your workout. Makes sense.
Great info. Thanks.
I did not know about BCAA and EAA. I am switching out and o my getting EAA for my pre-workout supplement drink additive.
Thanks for posting
I applaud you for using words like scam and lie, and for naming products. The public deserves facts, not wiggle words. I also don’t understand people who say they can’t afford to eat healthy. (Especially people who will buy a five dollar cup of coffee.) They need to stop going to high-end grocery stores where, yes, everything is overpriced.
@khairuddinsaid4060
21 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, even veggies and cheap protein foods like chicken, tofu and fish sold on low-end grocery stores and markets in my country are expensive as hell (thanks Anwar for raising the diesel prices). In addition to Ringgit Malaysia that kept plummeting and plummeting, low wages among worker-class families and the unhealthy food choices are now becoming easier to get because we're lazy to cook at home XD So yeah, Malaysia is doomed with fat and unhealthy people around us. Even kids.
Cudos to you Jeremy, thanks for the excellent analysis and information. Thanks for your character and integrity in doing a video like this when it's not the norm!!!
Some diet doctor said protein powder causes A1C to look worse. I didn't understand why. She, and other doctors, said to eat solid protein and avoid denatured protein--powders.
Really good video dude 💯
Huge thank you for making this one Jeremy.
You’re the best Jeremy ! Thank you for the information
Thanks for uploading this valuable knowledge 👍🏾
Glad you're talking about green powders with so many influiencers and broscience dudes selling athletic greens and other powders
@natzos6372
24 күн бұрын
Especially people like Andrew Huberman who should know better than to sell some dodgy supplements
Maximum Vibrance Greens products easily eclipse the nutritional value of AG1. Just flip over the bottle to see that two thirds of the entire container is dedicated to showcasing it's contents.
With your comparison of AG1 to a multi-vitamin tablet, it's worth noting that studies have shown that taking supplements in liquid form increases the percententage of the nutrients that are absorbed than in physical form
@MHWGamer
24 күн бұрын
can't you not just open the capsule and put it in water on your own
@ProexProduction
24 күн бұрын
@@MHWGamer Yes with capsules you can but I'm talking about tablets which is what he showed in the video
@TheBrandonn
22 күн бұрын
so just throw your multi in a smoothie then lol
@ProexProduction
22 күн бұрын
@@TheBrandonn or crush it up and snort it 😂
So detailed! No wonder 6.6M subs 💪
My experience with creatine (started ~3 weeks ago) is that I do feel noticeably better in general. I feel less tired. Strength and recovery: I dunno. My recovery of starting heavy deadlifts took about a week (I'm 40) and that wasn't short, usually my recovery takes 3 days or so. More strength? Maybe yes, I do Bodypump and the exercises are easier. But I could just have become stronger naturally. Then again, I had plateaud for the past year (I do Bodypump 2x a week.) I'll definitely follow the science :) Awesome work on this video and please keep sharing new findings!
@phil_5430
23 күн бұрын
make sure to drink a lot of water when taking creatine
@user-uy3tm9ee5l
23 күн бұрын
3 weeks isn't enough to tell crap. Give it minimum 6 weeks
@mahadevovnl
23 күн бұрын
@@user-uy3tm9ee5l Ok! Placebo effect might be tricking me ;)
Awesome content!
From what I heard: The big problem with cheap multivitamins like Centrum is while those nutrients are technically in the pill, they do not distribute/ absorb in the body.
Agreed, but also the form of the vitamins matters, there is a huge difference between the methyl folate in AG1 and the Folic Acid in Centrum
May i add.... it is also very important to be careful what you take when you have an underlying medical condition, i have Rheumatoid arthritis and, i am now back at the gym after a long slog to get my condition under control and decided to start creatin, not only did i get "NO" benefit from taking creatin , it also made my condition worse.... along with taking cod liver oil. It sounds bizarre i know you would think cod liver oil would be beneficial for a joint condition... but it actually makes the condition worse. So it is a true fact to say get medical advice first before taking any supplement, especially if you have a medical condition and taking medications.
@jasongander5331
20 күн бұрын
Interesting.. I've got RA and have been taking creatine for a few months
Can you talk about the "Leucine" threshold though?? And how if you don't meet it, you may need to supplement Leucine with food to activate MPS.
Great video, but how are you holding that fork 🤨🤯
AG1 felt like snake oil. Too many channels getting sponsorships.
Great video!
I always just buy the pharmacy brand (usually cheapest) of creatine. It says "100% creatine" (1 ingredient) and "pharmaceutical grade" as it's only claims.
5:39 corporate says they're the same picture. difference is a pump and flex
Wendigoon ain't making it out of the wood with this one 🗣️
hey Jeremy, what do you think about that innosups night shred thing. it's all over social media
@Actias1974
22 күн бұрын
You know the answer.
Nice video. I'm so thankful that I've just always LOVED my veggies. Green powders are a gross and expensive scam.
We really need more content like this in today's misinformation-filled social media
I want to pay respect for putting truth over profit! Thank you Jeremy!
how about a video of what vegetables and how much to create your own green smoothie?
This NEEDS to go VIRAL
Creatine & Protein powder is all you need. Syntha6 is my choice for protein and unflavored BSN Creatine
Watch out for Big Supplement
Excellent presentation, thank you ! Bill P.
Could you go into Sucralose and the other ones showing how it is bad for you? Thanks man I think that video would pop OFF!!!
Ascent brand creatine seemed to make the joints in my hands hurt, and it's Creapure - when I ceased use, that went away
One thing I learnt about supplements of any kind, I mean any kind, way before I got into fitness. Your body only uses a enough for the function it needs it for and will piss the rest of it away. It's a reason why I've never bothered with many supplements.
@Martyn_Wolf
23 күн бұрын
@covidcarl7480 unfortunately many people are deficient in many nutrients etc because of our modern way of living. Finding quality Vitamin D sups especially if you work nights isn't easy. Most vitamins don't give you enough alas.
I know these take time and probabky have more in the works bur could you do a video on other popular suppliments?
I use BCAA's and I noticed a drastic difference in my soreness, recovery and gains. Some people can benefit from supplementing them.
@realhamonwry8620
24 күн бұрын
That just means you have a shitty diet and/or consume a garbage protein product.
Usually the instructions on the package say to take more of the supplement than the literature says. That way, they can sell you it again sooner.
Great vid, Jeremy! I appreciate you taking the time.
Brilliant work.
Took AG1 for quite a while till I looked at my credit card monthly statement and realized just how much it costed. That plus another video I watched with pretty much said what you said here made me go, nah I will just make a fruit and veggie smoothie (which probably costs me similar or more tbh but at least its getting me the actual food and calories to boot)
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system
tl;dr Creatine yes, but not fancy one, prefere monohydrate. BCAA no, can be subbed with EAA. Green Powder no, just eat healthier.
Love you brother u are explain very nice u are absolutely 💯 good person ❤️ thank you so much
What is the best whey protein, lets start the discussion (technical answers only)
Thanks for the info, what is your opinion on L-Carnitine, is it a scam?
The more I investigate 'Studies' supporting a narrative, the more I find out that we don't know that much definitively.
When I first started taking creatine, I didn't really think it made a difference, but continued using it for about 4 years. I stooped about 6 months ago and pretty quickly found I lst 1-2 reps per set atnthe same weights. I restarted a month ago and gained back those couple reps. I'm sure it worked the first time, I just wasn't really tuned in to what to look for.
Wow amazing, I’m just wondering why there isn’t enough studies for protein powder , such that it is much important than all the mentioned and most used , regardless of it has been established more than 40 years , so we want a video please the cons and pros of protein powder
Very helpful👍
AG1 = Multivitamin. The placebo effect will make some people feel better after reading -->''it's good for you'' on the label, but it's nothing more than an expensive multivitamin. Is it good for you if you don't supplement anything and eat healthy/varied probably, is it an really expensive multivitamin option --> YES.
I'm picky about veggies myself so AG1 is a great way for me to get mine. I wouldn't get them otherwise by and large. Also it actually does tastes decent.
7:49 not to mention that antioxidants have been shown not to work in supplement form, leading to the theory that it's not antioxidants themselves that provides the benefits, but something else.
I'm doing a 90 day test of Muscletech Creatine to see what happens for myself
So what about protein powder? Thought you were going to mention that based on the thumbnail!
@jaycooper5338
10 күн бұрын
Clickbait. Very disappointing.
Creatine really works for me. I haven't taken in consistently due to the hair loss claims, but I've taken it for a few weeks and around week 4 of 3-5g/day, I 100% look so much fuller, more energy during my workouts, and feel less tired throughout the day. When I stop taking it, it takes around 3-4 weeks to fully leave the body, but I lose that pumped look. I'll wake up and my arms are really vascular while on it. It's funny because the only time I've gotten compliments on my arms is when I've taken creatine. When I stop, I think they lose about .5-1" in size. I do notice it messes with my sleep though. I'm been off it for 3-4 weeks now and have been able to sleep through the night without waking up. When I'm taking it, I'll wake up around 2-3am and cannot fall back asleep. I'll toss and turn until I have to get up. I don't know if I want to take it anymore and I'm prone to hair loss and don't know for certain if it could speed the process up.