What's your favorite animal? 😁

@MONSTAboyGaming

4 ай бұрын

Uh

@damianwalker3887

4 ай бұрын

Cats

@Moth334

4 ай бұрын

Fox!

@robincarow2508

4 ай бұрын

Foxxxxx!

@TheShadowPNGS

4 ай бұрын

Foxes and wolfs!!!!!❤❤❤❤

And the fact that they’re calling them ref sheets when they’re rendered… artists need unrendered clear poses to get colour and design accurately

@rat_in_a_bucket

4 ай бұрын

Yeah... I did coms one time, and the first person to ever commission me, sent me a shaded drawing. I wanted to sob so badly.

@ZackC

4 ай бұрын

tbh that’s an issue with legit artists as well - I’ve seen more than a few fully rendered ref sheets back from well before generative art was a thing

@dendroslime2473

2 ай бұрын

@@ZackC I used to do it that way when I was taking coms before I really should have been. I didn't realize what was bad about it, especially since I still had flat color palette squares included on the ref sheet so people could sample from the squares. I get why a lot of artists make this mistake. It's not a tip I've ever seen come up in art advice videos for example.

It’s so frustrating as a real artist who sells adopts. I’ve seen some of these Ai shops have reviews like “such beautiful art” 💀😭😭 these sellers don’t value art or the community they’re selling to Edit: I’ve noticed some Ai shops hv little videos like, ”tired of boring adopts? Get mine instead” slandering actual artists work as someone who doesn’t even create their own, is crazy

@vultusalbus4216

4 ай бұрын

What about AI generated furry ads ?

@rubyy.7374

4 ай бұрын

I was interested in buying adopts but the marketplaces were so jammed with AI art that I gave up. This is truly the worst timeline. 😞

@Val-xx

4 ай бұрын

@@rubyy.7374 Literally!! And it sucks that Esty doesn’t allow you to block certain shops or products :/

@Val-xx

4 ай бұрын

@@rubyy.7374 yeah, it sucks that Esty doesn’t allow you to block certain shops or products :/

@gryaznygreeb

3 ай бұрын

AI can further be given specific images to reference. It can literally be used to completely steal an artist's style by giving it enough example pieces from twitter or FA. It's terrible. There's always off details when you look closely tho

Screw the people who run these scams. It’s a really disgusting way to make money.

@SliverFox2027

4 ай бұрын

@U-400YT its not my art

@tanthis24

18 күн бұрын

It’s lazy art, they’re charging what a real artist would ask for the hard work they put into hand drawn work. It’s just a cash grab

Ngl what messes me up is that artists are pushing their prices lower and lower just to compete with the ai generated stuff. And there's just a bunch of ai art comms clogging the front of the Etsy pages :/, alot of ppl don't scroll past the first 3

@Sos12kitsune

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s sad and he mentioned it 9:54

@LexFelron

4 ай бұрын

It's a shame.. artists need to value their own artwork more. I'm willing to pay hundreds for a REAL LIFE oil painting, but if you throw some AI created thing at me... It's only true value is... A reference. That's why I personally keep my pen and paper skills in check.. because anything made on a computer or stored digitally is one solar flare from being deleted from history, FOREVER. That's why record's and CD/DVD/Blue Ray is the way to go IMO. Soldstate and magnetic storage isn't even worth it's own weight in lead.

@sinclaire5479

17 күн бұрын

Yeah I stopped selling online with the integration of AI if people want to adopt from me they need to either come to a show I'm at or contact me via email my prices have stayed the same as well I'm not going to cater to the lowest common denominator.

I've actually been having issues with these "artists" reaching out to me on Discord. Like at least two a week, cause I'm on a lot of furry servers. And it's always either AI-generated or just straight up stolen art. I have a personal vendetta against these scammers at this point. To the point where every new message request or random friend request makes me get ready to be angry and disappointed.

@techspec2551

4 ай бұрын

What makes me angrier is the shit's FREE... Btw, want my pc to make you what AI thinks what a Dave is? That will only cost you my curiosity of what a computer thinks a Dave is... Darn it! Now I'm curious!

@techspec2551

4 ай бұрын

Now it has evolved from just Dave, to a furry named Dave, to a dumpster named Dave, to a cat on a dumpster in space named Dave, to a cute cartoon going to war named Dave, a badass rockstar Dave, a really buff war veteran Dave, A hippie that is going to war Dave, Bob, Bob with Dave, Bob with Dave and another Dave, one Bob and three Daves (the AI just made them all women for some reason), The Bob and three Daves are back to being men, MORE DAVES! An ENTIRE army of office workers named DAVE! And yeah... That's about it...

@alexthedemon2203

4 ай бұрын

I had some dude reach out to me aswell on discord

@rat_in_a_bucket

4 ай бұрын

Same! I normally like dancing around the topic I know they want to bring up. One got very upset at me and insulted me in a different language lmao.

@Meowssero

4 ай бұрын

Oof

Ai generators will never be real art or any art in general.

@rexi936

4 ай бұрын

its literally impossible, the definition of art would have to change

@tylern6420

4 ай бұрын

the only AI generated art that can be called art is duck sphere and GLUBO

@twilightfuntime6631

4 ай бұрын

@@tylern6420yes. Only exception.

@Naomi-ei4ps

4 ай бұрын

Fr

@vultusalbus4216

4 ай бұрын

I’d rather post an ugly ref sheet than rely on AI to draw it for me

A sad thing is the fact that AI art has put ACTUAL ARTISTS *out* of BUSINESS LIKE AI ISN'T REAL ART?! IT TAKES 0 EFFORT AND YOU'D RATHER HAVE THAT CARP THAN ACTUAL ART THAT HAD HOURS POURED INTO IT?! LIKE DUDE! ai is a freaking problem and imo shouldn't exist

@1000-THR

4 ай бұрын

ai can be used for good things, ai art is not of them

@FurryBlossoms

4 ай бұрын

@@1000-THR yup, I agree with that

@Henry-kd1mu

2 ай бұрын

Ai art should be banned worldwide imo

@oldkingcrow777

2 ай бұрын

​@@Henry-kd1mu😂 it's not as easy to make "clean" work with AI as commenters think.

@WhatNoiseFishMakes

29 күн бұрын

Nah ai art is better than woke arts.. nothing has been lost. Artist this age are worthless just wants to spread political agenda.

AI can’t make art. All it can do is make images based on art. The only place I could potentially see AI images having in this fandom is helping new furries get their fursona out of their head so that an actual artist can draw it, and even that can be problematic, especially when models are overtrained (when the AI learns how to replicate images too well and starts spitting out the training data).

@wickerbeastinlila

4 ай бұрын

Oh yeah! Getting some Inspiration from ai images is okay in my opinion.

@lightdreamer_

4 ай бұрын

I don't call this well trained, I call this a fail XD. Or dataset too small. But a well made model will only spit out unique results. And even then, looking at AI-generated images makes me feel uneasy, cuz there's always something weird or wrong....

@diegogamer2661

4 ай бұрын

Isn't that what people do?

@ReesesBees

4 ай бұрын

@@diegogamer2661 No. Artists make art by starting with a base sketch and work their way up to a final piece. AI cannot do that.

@BlooftubeBloof

4 ай бұрын

A lot of furries use AI. There's this one that hangs out in a server that makes buffgengars.

I’ve been getting those advertised to me like crazy. I hate it so much. Some shops sell them for $200-300+ and it’s disgusting. . . I’ve tried reporting them, but apparently Etsy permits selling AI art? (I’m not sure if my Google was correct or not, but it seemed like it).

@nuclearwinter5748

4 ай бұрын

Fr bro it's annoying just scrolling past page after page of either AI or commissions that are real but cost me how much I spend on food a month

@scorpionhdkid8972

4 ай бұрын

Maybe those high-priced sales generate more income for Etsy? Not sure, but most platforms like that take a part of the income from each sale. That is mostly their monetization model

@DragonflyMel

4 ай бұрын

@@scorpionhdkid8972 yeah Etsy takes like a 6.5% commission or something, I think total, from every sale

@DragonflyMel

4 ай бұрын

@@scorpionhdkid8972 yeah Etsy takes a 9.5% commission

@Ocelo

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, Etsy is really getting awful. they let people like these scam others and sell AI images, (I'd never call it art- art is a form of human expression) but ban people for no reason that spend hard work and the $0.20 listing fee just to sell their actual art.

Alright hear me out, I have a plan. I’m gonna make a bunch of ads on Etsy that are the exact same things as these goofy goobers but make them so ridiculously undercut. And then at the very bottom blantenly say it’s ai made, give signs of these scams and show place and ways to find actual artists of varying prices. And if by chance someone still commissions (not) me then personally tell them they got scammed but I will refund or actually draw them a thing

The only thing I have ever used an AI “art” bot for is stupid images, like typing in “Darth Vader on a unicycle” and then laughing at the results, I refuse to use it for anything else and if I want a commission done I always pay a real artist

@Jason-zg4sd

4 ай бұрын

Yeah same. I’ve only ever used it for dumb shit or to try to help me with landscapes for my stories so that I can get inspiration to then draw out stuff on my own, because finding proper reference photos is so hard for landscapes for me

@Someperson12532

4 ай бұрын

I once typed in: "An image of an arctic fox in a mysterious landscape" (but in my language) and it was so obviously ai-generated, I mean it looked good, but I think there was a red dot in one of the four pictures! I didn't use the art for anything except looking at.

@callummclachlan4771

4 ай бұрын

@@Someperson12532 I admit I do use AI for inspiration, but that's it. Don't sell it, or even show anyone else. I use it a either entertainment (silly situations) or something to test out design ideas.

@mattwolf7698

4 ай бұрын

That's an actual guy in Portland Oregon who dresses up as Darth Vader and does that.

@BethanyHarbaugh

4 ай бұрын

@@Jason-zg4sdAbsolutely. Especially if you struggle with picturing landscapes. I have aphantasia , so I can't see things in my mind. I rely on reference. I've used AI a few times to get the feel of a background and then trace over it to fix it up and render it in my actual style. It's all just reference then, just like I would any photos online. AI for artists could be a great help in references as a tool, but we have to have some rules around it like having ethical sources for training these engines (royalty-free images and things that the companies have gotten explicit permission/paid to use). I used a generator to get a futuristic hallway in a specific fantasy-esque style, and it took a while to get a composition I liked. But, once I got it, it was a great help in designing a scene for an animation I'm working on. :) Landscape compositions are some of the hardest for me to get, but industrial composition (bedrooms, halls, house layouts, etc.) have always been a struggle. So, having something help with that to allow me to get my work done faster and with less energy is always nice. The final product is still entirely my lines, my rendering skills, and my artistic skill...but the AI definitely eased the mental process.

I think the reviews are ai generated

I love takin characters from ai and redesigning them fully, I call it free ocs

@rat_in_a_bucket

4 ай бұрын

Same! Sometimes it's fun to mess around with ai. They always turn out horrible, but it is fun to try and redesign them, kinda like a little challenge! :>

@Maizazael

4 ай бұрын

Same, I go to these accounts he's even talking about and just screenshot the ones that are passable for fodder for later.

@BlooftubeBloof

4 ай бұрын

Its fun to screw around with when you're bored. I once generated an HD photo of a fumo of one of my OCs lol

@TrixyTrixter

22 күн бұрын

Sounds like a fun passtime. I like messing around with chat AI's. Not artistic enough to redesign any art.

@smailyuwu3546

10 күн бұрын

Fr, I personally use AI for concepts and then draw the character myself xd

As an artist, I fucking hate AI shit. The only joy I get from it is laughing at the horrible broken anatomy- That one foot at 9:34 especially lmao that dude should be walking in a cast.

Pov: your fursona is too complex for ai to turn into art without changing the patterns lol.

I had JUST made a tweet about this a few days ago- thank you so much for the bigger video covering the topic!! It's so shameful that these people are (seemingly) making a living off this actual garbage

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My take on Ai media generation: It is a great tool to ease communication between artists and clients if there is no previous material like a ref sheet yet. It can take out the (sometimes) hours spend searching through other characters to find an example of the change that you will like to add to the characters because the client might lack the words that would help the artist understand. Ai generated Media should not be allowed to be sold. Using it to assist a person is a greyzone but you even there you are technically using someone elses experience to get yourself started.... not sure what my position on that is yet.

@undeadkitsunefox

4 ай бұрын

It shouldn't even be allowed to be posted! Have you seen Deviantart?

@BethanyHarbaugh

4 ай бұрын

I agree with this. With client/artist communication, it would definitely help with that. So long as the image is used as reference and not part of the actual final product, AI images are usually accepted as a tool. I know a lot of artists who will use AI (myself included on the odd occasion) to get a reference for a specific feel, colour palette, composition, etc. for a project we're working on. But, it's used the same way as any photos we find online: as reference only. That is how it can be ethically used. Many artists will even refer to other people's art if there's a specific element they like (pose, clothing style, etc.). So long as the AI image is not part of the actual final product, it's fine. I've used AI to come up with a style of futuristic-fantasy hallway that looks cold and shiny. It took a while to get a style I liked, and with that, I was able to use that as a reference to draw out my backgrounds for an animation I'm working on. It looks nothing like the original image in terms of the end product, but it definitely helped ease the process and mental drain of coming up with a composition and style when the main project is supposed to be the animation. I've seen some people use AI images as the actual backgrounds, which I would say is an absolute NO. So long as what is in the final image/animation is your work with your skills, your rendering, your lines, etc., then it's safe to use as reference. I'm sorry if I repeated myself a little. I hope I was able to explain my view clearly. :) I hope you have a wonderful day.

@androconiachangeling6535

4 ай бұрын

Finally, someone who's not just mindlessly running around going "AI bad". I use it to quickly generate faces for DND tokens, as long as it looks "Good enough" I don't care.

@TheCatGoesRawrMusik

4 ай бұрын

@@androconiachangeling6535 yuh! That is most certainly a nice usecase! I will honestly steal that idea if you don't mind.

@TheCatGoesRawrMusik

4 ай бұрын

@@BethanyHarbaugh you did. Thank you for sharing your point of view :)

my views for AI is that it shouldn't be used to make and profit art but my opinion (in which from my viewing nobody does this) use the AI images as a reference, but make it into your own style, don't make it exactly the same but create your own version and or character

@TrixyTrixter

22 күн бұрын

I agree with this stance.

I hate it when people Use AI To make A Quick Buck. 😒

@Nimble-pawz

4 ай бұрын

Or 400 bucks 😔

@TrixyTrixter

22 күн бұрын

Yeah. I am not against AI image generation as a thing. But I do agree with people that using it to sell is scummy

If you’re reading this.. you’re not first

@Da_fluffy_melody

4 ай бұрын

YIPPPPEEEEEE

@MONSTAboyGaming

4 ай бұрын

I knew that

@ghostyminer2

4 ай бұрын

I know

@fallenking9807

4 ай бұрын

first

@Onlybread887

4 ай бұрын

@@fallenking9807oof

I hate AI art generators... its a disrespectful piece of trash

@BoltofMystery

4 ай бұрын

Facts!

@timetraveler7

4 ай бұрын

On a technical level, impressive, on an artistic and moral one, not so much.

@Jeshmatthewlikesanimals

4 ай бұрын

ehh if they don't sell it and just post it and say nothing about it's there own art it's fine really

@dol_codm

Ай бұрын

As a artist myself, i think the ai gonna do much better than what we can do

@TheHeroWTF

Ай бұрын

I've been playing with an ai drawing generator, but I won't upload anything it's made without being damn sure to say it's ai generated. Ai generators are great for those of us who just want to have references of our characters, but I definitely say support the actual artists(of course, scammers gonna scam any way they can).

As a furry artist I'm genuenly disgusted of AI images. These pictures lack the soul, love and care that real artists put into them. I really hope the lawsuit against these companies go trough and limits the use of AI generated images. Oh and BTW you are right AI generatedimages are in public domain, so none can ask money for them, and you can steel them without any consequences.

@TrixyTrixter

22 күн бұрын

It won't. The art used is freely available. Sadly you don't actually have control over what people do with your art once you post it to the public.

@smailyuwu3546

10 күн бұрын

Idk how to feel, like- you’re right about AI being public domain but behind some AI oc’s there are owners that don’t really know how to draw and use AI for a few good looking results and stealing the whole thing from them It’s just sad

AI prompt engineers impress and scare me at the same time. Let people choose to filter out any AI-generated content.

Tiger ref sheet looks cool… A shame it’s not real

@Purplesquigglystripe

4 ай бұрын

Its ripping off an actual artist’s style out there. The closest artist I know of is ovopack, but there’s probably a more similar artist out there, likely Japanese and maybe not exclusively a furry artist. It also reminds of krenz if he were to do furry art.

@cdp1ayer343

4 ай бұрын

Nice, I just meant that the image is AI is just a fake copy of someone else’s work @@Purplesquigglystripe

This is so sad. And yet here I am (and many others) lowering our prices to barely survive

I saw these too, been waiting for someone to call them out. Crazy people can’t tell!!

When I got my pfp, I was paranoid that it was going to be A.I at one point, it was only when I saw the line drawing that I knew it was genuine

I saw some random AI generated image of a yellow Honda CRX at a furry convention. And the AI messed up so bad, the fursuit standing behind the car is 20 feet tall and has some among us looking visor for eyes, and the headlights on the CRX look like they left the car out on a hot day in Arizona because they just melted. Honestly I would go to a convention if there was a car scene there. Also that protogen ref sheet is an absolute war crime.

Oh my god! finally someone brings this up, I used to sell adopts on Etsy and commissions! Every time I was on Etsy AI "art" was constantly being pushed into my feed. Seeing how much sells they were getting, and sometimes even how cheap they made them for such high quality art at first glance I felt like I needed to market my adopts for cheaper for something that took way more effort and time out of my day, I still have my shop on Etsy, but honestly I am so incredibly discouraged at this point, I have put my shop in vacation mode for about 2-3 months now, and I really don't know if I will come back because of this, I don't know if it is worth it anymore to keep on trying.

It honestly sickens me how many people actually have the gall to sit there and call themselves artists when, like you said, they simply are typing something into a prompt box.

True art needs a person and some thoughts, ideas, and emotions put into it to be real. Otherwise it's as emotionless as getting lucky and finding a cool image in the library of Babel gallery with no meaning or person behind it.

Omg! So at this amusement park my classmates went to, there’s a part of the park where you can look at artwork from students that won awards and prizes and I kid you not, they had AI generated art that won 1st place!!! It even said on the description that it was AI! It just really makes me sad to see that people put so much time and effort into something handmade but a literal computer can just boot something in a second that’s probably stolen from other artists and win an award. 😞😞😞

and fiverr is littered with ai "art" generators. its sad.

Best thing now unless laws catch up is trying to learn things AI can’t do. I’m probably gonna stick with traditional art for a while lol

That a reason why I'm scared of buying art from artists I never met before. AI is stealing part of other artists style and sometimes it passes under my radar at the first glance. I might never buy an adopt because of this.

@ZackC

4 ай бұрын

Ask to see a sketch or an in-progress piece they’re working on. This works equally well for AI art and straight up thieves.

@AlienHunt705

4 ай бұрын

@@ZackC i did not think about this. Thx a lot for the tip :)

As an artist I hate this, I I’m upset that Etsy will only plaster AI artists and shove down actual artist with amazing craft. Also to the people who buy these AI characters, you LEGALLY CANT “own” these AI images. Under untied states law no AI image can be owned due to it not being a image crafted by an actual person. If you want to own an actual character SUPPORT AN ARTIST. AI is nothing without the artists it feeds off. If artists didn’t exsist AI art wouldn’t be a thing.

I hate how art scammers now try and engage a convo

Thank you for pointing out the mistakes in the ai images! Now I know what to look for

I'm not an artist, I still love comissioning real artists But I also enjoy farming AI of my fursona, it's fun x3

the avatar thing you use is really cute!

"Affordable" costing 110 dollars for that person's 10 minutes of plugging the value in and waiting is absurd

dont forget the ones that dm you out of nowhere, its been happening alot since you mentioned scam accounts with AI art

I always report these stores because technically AI is not handmade.

moral of the story: AI art is bad and you shouldn't make money off it.

@Jeshmatthewlikesanimals

4 ай бұрын

I think you mean "shouldn't"

@cfhraptor8651

4 ай бұрын

@@Jeshmatthewlikesanimals yeah i ment that, it was a typo

please god something needs to happen with this, I cant keep dealing with ai art all over the place like this

Me and my techie friends have gotten ourselves to say imagegen when referring to AI "Art" and it's a small thing but it really helps to make the distinction between ART: the thing that is a process of creating an image from scratch, and image gen: an neural network that enhances patterns found in random noise based on a prompt input.

Usually if I see any furry with this kind of smooth style I assume it is ai at this point because I have never seen an actual artist in the fandom who has this kind of style

@rat_in_a_bucket

4 ай бұрын

I have. They're typically very popular and have been posting for years, while people who use Ai, tend to have smaller accounts (not always) and are pretty recent.

@trixxart777

4 ай бұрын

​@rat_in_a_bucket that might just be because I tend to follow more cartoony animators but usually actually furry artist with this sort of style looks way different I dunno

And my parents won’t listen to me when I explain that AI steals art. They keep trying to tell me that I will eventually HAVE to use AI if I want to get into graphics design or computer programming, when that’s really not true. And they keep explaining to me that “oh AI doesn’t mash art together it learns from the art styles and learns how to replicate it blah blah blah” to justify their recent use of AI art for their branding.

@AuroraTheTherian45

4 ай бұрын

They’re telling me this sh1t AS AN ARTIST. I literally have a graphics pad and everything, they know how passionate I am about art, and yet they still try to convince me that AI art is a good thing.

@legosi2736

4 ай бұрын

That's pretty sad to hear😔 honestly, it's clear your parents have no clue about art at all, and the long process an hours of dedication of doing it.

@AuroraTheTherian45

4 ай бұрын

@@legosi2736 I don’t think I’ve ever made a drawing that took more than 3 hours, but still. Yeah

@TrixyTrixter

22 күн бұрын

I mean you are wrong. Unless you concider all artist who learn by looking at art as thieves. From your description of what your parents say it sounds like they actually know how the tech works. Good on them for that. They are shit tho if they are using generated images for commercial use.

Is someone used Ai to make art then just changed it by tracing it and changing the whole style. Would that still be considered stolen??

As someone who almost bought an adoptable from these shops, thank you for the video! Won't almost make that mistake again.

As an AI enthusiast I'm against these SCAMs. Commercial use of AI generated imagery should banned with zero tolerance

This really is sad. And I stand somewhere in the middle of this debate. On the one hoof, AI art is here to stay. No corking this genie, unless our sun fries all our technology in one heartbeat. Right now, it is learning and making mistakes. A year ago, it was really crude stuff. Next year, the decent sized flaws may become super rare. The year after, it may require a professional to judge Ai vs. organic. I also say that in the far future, people will look back at the times we are living in and have many things to say. Like with the crudeness of the AI art. It feels like that slim period in gaming when professional games were placing crude digital photos into their game as animated sprites. Its time was short lived, and things got way better. Right now, I say that this AI art is in virtual elementary school. It's a fascinating thing to play around with. And great for a no budget option towards art. But... people are paying for it? Because, on the other hoof, almost anyone can literally generate this learning/theft stuff for free. Make it virtual wallpaper. Go print it out for next to nothing. And no matter how good it gets; it should always remain as FREE artwork. The true touch of a great artist, documented in making real art, should only fetch more and more money vs. the touch of a machine that will be flooding the world that we all live in. But, for now, the 'not looking hard' flaws of AI shouldn't be fetching any prices at all. These people that are paying for this stuff should be sent e-mails on how to download free software so they can crank out all the flawed images to their hearts content. Being a writer, I have tried punching in my visions to a couple of these. They have, so far, failed 100% to even remotely meet any goals I have. The results are often interesting. But absolutely useless to me. Now, nearly every real commission that I have paid for is something I can be proud for. The real efforts put in by real artists is, hands down, worth paying for.

@unknowngod8221

2 ай бұрын

you know what funny? if we continue we might be in similar situation to humanity on animatrix ngl let's hope we don't develop ai too much and too fast

I went to a store once, and it sold 'art' first, the 'art' was STOLEN from people, and I could find the EXACT IMAGES from Google. Some of the art in the store was ai too. Some of the art there was so obviously fake. Some parts were completely pixelated. It's so sad how people's art is stolen for profit, and just used from Google.

This sucks, I found a significant decrease in sales on etsy for my commissions. I practically left the fandom over it, not out of choice, but because I had to dedicate more of my time to find other work.

I agree with all of what you said, however I can't completely shit on AI art. I view it as a great way to find insperation for poses, coloration, design, setting, or overall composure of the peice. That said, there are several people that are just pumping out AI enmass for the profit, and as you said, it's sickening. :/ AI art can be a tool for good, but unfortunetly it's being used for shit tier sals on etsy.

in my old age, ive learned times are changing. ai art isnt ever going to go away. getting mad about it isnt going to hault the progression of technology, nor make every ai creator sad and convince them to delete it. ai can only take your job if your art is something the ai can do, basically its a skill issue. if youre threatened by ai, then learn a new skill that ai cant touch; sculpting, sewing, fursuits, etc.

@unknowngod8221

2 ай бұрын

the problem is someone already say this when nft is well yk rising but they go downfalling despite ai actually having a uses irl do you want to really trust a machine MADE BY HUMAN who can make mistake and depending on the creator smart iq can be like allied master computer or just dumb and also probably nft bros already in the ai market so can't be exactly sure it gonna stay long but let's see

As an avid shopper on etsy for a lot of my stuff due to how many new artists I find on there, I hate this, I be looking for commissions a new adopt or something its hell, I have to scan trough a pile of AI and while usually I can visually tell its AI sure, but in the end all of this is based on real artists works, I am worried about it training on data from artists I love, because it is their work and I want them to be the one appreciated for it.

I think it's funny how AI bros originally argued that AI 'art' would be a good thing because it would make art and creative expression available to everybody. Now those same AI bros are the biggest grifters out there, charging people insane amounts of money for what is clearly purely AI-generated art. They've overtaken Deviantart and now seem to be overcrowding Etsy with garbage fake art.

@unknowngod8221

2 ай бұрын

they are nft bros that still trying to cope with the downfall of nft

Stoping kids from saying first (Love your vids nightzy)

New Nightzy video yippee

I am honestly sad that ppl sell fake art. Every single person may ask a machine to create art, and then call themselves artists with an artwork that has no human mind behind it. Especially when they charge A LOT of money for the fake art of the machine. I literally charge less than $100 for my animations and artworks in both 3D and 2D, and people still call it high, and then they buy the fake art for $500. It’s their choice, but using in a fake art is like using a wooden box for holding a building if those people use the fake art for any projects shared with the community.

THE FLOATING FOOT 😂😂😂 IVE BEEN LAUGHING FOR 5 MINUTES

Dangit. I am now realizing I have been scammed. Welp

Is it a stretch to say that the world would be better off if we never invented AI image/voice generators, like I never imagined I would be worrying about the future so much

I see so many mugs and t shirts with ai art on Etsy and in physical stores now too. Ugh

Sup nightzy, I've been watching the channel for about 2½ to 3 years and I want to support you ❤ I really like your art😅 last week I bought your doodle Hoodie ❤

Cool. I'm from Brazil and I like your videos.

I continue to eat hand sanitizer 👍

This is such a huge issue. AI generated images can be fun, the science behind it is very impressive. Would be great if it could be expanded an explore without stealing the work of photographers and artists, but it's truly Yeehaw No Regulations atm. Selling AI generated images like that is just pure scamming, though.

I was going through Etsy last night and ran into this, couldn’t find the report button on Etsy so I gave up and moved on. It’s disgusting tbh

Now I know thx!

In 5-10 years, hating on AI and ranting how real human-made art is so much better will make you sound like a boomer or a human supremacist from the pre-uprising Ai rights days.

@dendroslime2473

2 ай бұрын

That's like saying people who still want to play the guitar themselves will be "boomers". If we do reach the point that developing any actual skill yourself instead of relying on robots to do literally everything for you makes you a boomer, then I will gladly take that title over being so dependent on technology that a solar flare would make me immediately completely useless in every way.

@fuzzydragon

2 ай бұрын

@@dendroslime2473 i love reading this in cranky grandpa voice...its like hearing the future.

@dendroslime2473

2 ай бұрын

@@fuzzydragon ya self-discipline and skill is so last century

I noticed all the wrong details in AI generated images, so I started to took them for fully a redraw / redesign by hand just for fun, but some day I hope I can develop a full drawing skill so I can get the honor to be called “artist”

Well sometimes it's difficult to tell if it's ai or if the artist is just learning.

“So the furry fandom… has a bit of a problem” most real thing ever said

This is absolutely ridiculous that AI IS ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE! They should BAN ai all together because you can even make 1 minute videos that are fake which is absolutely pathetic

one thing that can help spot ai is the fact that, for the few listings i saw, most of them limit themselves to creating new characters out of thin air rather than actually trying to make a commission with already existing characters. That's sadly one niche i happen to want to fall into: character design. The saddest part is that i understand the appeal of the style the AI images use. The style itself is niche in the furry fandom. Not many people really have it. And it's also nice looking (especially if pulled off by a real artist. See Ross Draws for an example of a similar style) So the AI bros flood in with that type of style that... Probably appeals to the more "normie" side of the fandom.

I’ve also seen a lot of these people on Pinterest selling ai generated adoptables :/

Bro your tail is so distracting 😆 I love it!!!

5:04 The worst part of this scam is that AI images do not get copyright, so anyone buying this is paying $400 for a character they will not have any ownership of

That tail is CLEARLY coming out of his nature's pocket. 🤣

It took me almost 10 years to reach 3.5 sales in my etsy store as a furry commissions artist. So to see ppl make this much, on the same platform, off of AI generated art, hurts a lot :")

this is a problem on deviantart too, i dont use it a lot anymore but i got on the other day to look at a drawing and was recommended ai pokemon adopts on the side of the screen by a different account :/ they were only selling them for a dollar rather than hundreds, but still.

0:45 apparently because they got it from a stock website, which had very obvious AI art all around, but I guess they just didnt notice. Why the ad doesnt feature art *made with the drawing tablet* I have no idea, but its not quite as simple as "they just decided to generate art to advertise their drawing tablet"

Good video, I offended a artist or so called artist, when I said its not art if your using a machine to do the work. Well at least my work can't be deleted, its hard to delet hand drawn work. All my work is one off. No two will ever be the same. So when I do a character it will be a one of a kind. You made a very good point in your video, glad someone spoke up, and exposed these so called artist!

DeviantART is exactly the same these days >:( fake AI adopt accounts FLOOD DA... they make hundreds of accounts with fake "inspirational" art stories for bios, upload AI art all day everyday for as cheap as $1, and then pay for core and DA advertising (you click a pic and in the top right is another piece of art for sale- 85% of the time now it's an AI adoptable account). It drives me nuts!!

Would I be a heathen if I stole some AI-generated furry adoptees for sale and made them into my characters? I don't know, probably half of Pinterest users have already taken the same characters, under every image with AI adopt I see comments from the category "It's AI so I can steal it"😂

I’d also like to mention that they’re literally selling fully rendered AI pieces on commissions that are supposed to be ref sheets It’s like the number 1 rule that you don’t shade ref sheets because that defeats the whole point of a ref sheet 😭

as someone who is interested in learning to draw furry art and make some fun stuff for this community this is disheartening, god why is it impossible to just make art legit anymore 😭

@AIopekis

21 күн бұрын

I mean, plenty of people still make legitimate art. The problem is that the people doing this AI stuff _aren't_ artists. They're people who are probably mild tech savvy who found a pretty obvious market to break into. They don't care about the art, they care about the money. AI art can be made quicker and sold at a lower price which, unfortunately, forces legitimate artists to drop their prices in order to compete with computers. A lot of people don't really care about the human element that makes art what it is. They just want a decent looking image at a cheap price, so they gravitate towards AI art sellers. It's unfortunate but until laws start to catch up surrounding the usage of AI, it's going to be something that a lot of people have to deal with. So those of us who _are_ interested in art that's actually made by a human are just going to have to be careful and really look into each artist that we choose to commission. That said, people should also be careful about going around accusing others of using AI. I have seen some legitimate artists get accused of using AI because someone saw something that looked slightly off and decided that the only explanation is that AI was used.

Finally. I keep reporting them for false advertisement. SEO word salad haiku into a generator does not an artist make.

As an artist, I find AI bullshit degrading. Worse, when people fall into the trap of buying it off Etsy and not realizing the harm it's doing overall. Recently found the adopt scene on etsy and boy... if you're gonna shill AI garbo at least be honest and put it in the description that it was made with AI. Artists can tell. lmao Great vid!

I found an AI that I generate art from for fun but I would never try to sell it saying its my own, thats wrong...

@TheHeroWTF

Ай бұрын

I'm in the same boat as you. I can't draw and just can't justify paying an artist at this time, so I'm mucking with ai, but I'll never claim it as anything but ai.

@CaffeineFox56

Ай бұрын

@@TheHeroWTF yup I cant draw anything good to save my life

This kills me so much. I am an artist trying so hard to make my name and work well known and seeing AI is getting more sales than me really hurts. I haven't seen them on Etsy until this video and it's sickening... 1k sales for something with obvious errors... Do I just need to stop trying to be good at art?

this is genuinely sad to see, and it gives any real artist a bad name just by being in the same field as this garbage. I just... I wish sites would come down hard on all these honest to god scammers, because it really should violate ToS to just have what is essentially stolen content listed for sale

I was watching this and about halfway through an etsy ad came on😂

got a qestion why do you use a voice changer if you dont mind me asking

1. If you do not have the permission of the creator of your training data it is illegal to sell AI illustrations 2. If you want AI art, you can make tons of it for free with something like Microsoft Copilot 3. I don't think I'd pay $500 for an adopt even if it was a human artist.

I decided to look up this shop & read through some of the reviews. This one was a response by one of the “artists” from RoboRender; “Hello Roan! Our art is hybrid art, we tell people all about it in our store's main page, but basically it is handcrafted art over Al made bases. A Combination of both Al and Human art. Our Al use is ethical though, as we use custom trained models and we even pay royalties to the artists that train them - something most competitors dont do as you may be well aware. (You may also notice our style is substantially different from those who just use regular Al). The name RoboRender is exactly because we make hybrid art, but as we said it is Al for the base and the rest handcrafted. A 3 stars review really hurts our store, and it also hurts that you gave it before talking to us first and just because you didnt read our description. Thank you Rui Carreira Lead Artist @ RoboRender” Idk how AI art can be “ethical” tho?