I never thought about how horrible it must have been for Harry to feel betrayed by Dumbledore! He was the first adult Harry could trust! Great video very insightful!

@PokemonkaDub

3 жыл бұрын

What about Hagrid?!

@famco_inc737

3 жыл бұрын

@@PokemonkaDub Hagrid was never a father figure/mentor to Harry so I don't see it the same way.

@PokemonkaDub

3 жыл бұрын

@@famco_inc737 Hagrid was like a carrign grandpa a little funny but always will give you cookies and loves you the most of all.

Rachel, you're videos are *PHENOMENAL* Are you planning any more videos for the Harry Potter franchise? Hope you are doing well. Spreading ❤

@racheldoesfandom

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! No plans for future HP vids at the moment, but never say never!

The most (de)pressing evidence of the intentionality and scale of Dumbledore's manipulation: Mrs Figg, Harry's eccentric neighbor, off-handedly commenting that during Harry's childhood Dumbledore instructed her to make Harry's stays at her home unpleasant enough so that the Dursleys would continue to allow them. (To me, the Hogwarts letter's address is "just" the rotten "cherry-on-top", as I always felt it would be easy enough to explain this detail away as an automatic perk of the magical post system, or whatever.) Mrs Figg's little remark without-a-doubt proves that Dumbledore was perfectly aware of what was going on in Harry's childhood: not only did the Dursleys feel no love for Harry, they took an active interest in taking away Harry's happiness. According to Dumbledore, there was no better protection of Harry's life than keeping him close to Petunia's blood, the blood of family. An abusive family, a sad necessity. To look at the bright side, according to Dumbledore, Harry grew up not a spoiled brat but normal. (Whatever that is.) Blurred reality! Dumbledore could have scared the Dursleys into at least something like neutrality towards Harry at ANY given point. Yet he only chose to do so at the end of Harry's fifth year. It's when he finally ordered others to threaten Harry's family. He even paid the Dursleys a visit of his own, portraying himself as Harry's appalled confidant. It's a bit crazy how Dumbledore's intense phase of care started right after ignoring and hurting Harry for a whole year as well as then locking the very vulnerable teen in his office to force his tears and the horrible prophecy onto him. Not saying that all of that happened intentionally.. Hence: Dumbledore chose not to act. There really is no way around the fact: Dumbledore needed Harry to grow up in suffering. Of course, it's not in Dumbledore's personality to want suffering. Yet it was a necessity to leave this child deprived of love and ready to be manipulated. For slaughter, just like Snape said, even though Dumbledore hoped that in the end it would not come to that. Additionally, Dumbledore proved himself an insanely good predictor of character in the cases of Pettigrew and Ron. It can be assumed he also predicted he'd be able to somewhat groom young Harry to become his man. Interestingly, it's Dumbledore who provided Harry with the wisdom that a person is to be judged based on their choices rather than their abilities. How are we to judge Albus Dumbledore? Despite realizing how very not cool their relationship is on many levels, I totally agree that it enriches the story. It's a complex grey matter that darkens the more I reflect on it. Thank you for your analysis! ♥️

I really like your style of video essays! I'd love to see a deep dive into Hermione and how she is (IMO) the soul of their Trio. She supports Harry and Ron when they need it and at the same time, can tear them apart. How the boys grow to understand they would have been dead a few times over with out her. I've always loved how her growth as a character ran almost completely parallel to her growth in the group. (I'm sure you have a list a mile long).

I have been binging all your videos they are so good!

Can't say I was a fan... many manipulative people ACT nice to those they are grooming to serve their own purposes. I believe dumbledore only acted like he cared about Harry to get Harry to trust and obey him, not because he loves Harry

@ChannelOfilliusion

3 жыл бұрын

@Anne Day plot twist: Joelle leBre is rita skeeter

@ChannelOfilliusion

3 жыл бұрын

@Anne Day 🌝🌝

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

I always hated the whole "You have to keep going back to the Dursleys Harry even though they treat you like shit because your mother's blood protection is there" thing. Basically making Harry choose between either a life of abuse or death by Voldemort. Dumbledore forcing Sirius to stay in Grimmauld Place even though he hated it there because of his family and Kreacher's pureblood supremacy. Dumbledore didn't get that just because it worked for when his parents protected Ariana that didn't mean it would work with everyone.

@MasterOfTheElements

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 you have to understand that while Dumbledore may seem like an all powerful god, he's just a man. A very powerful and brilliant man, but still a man. I think he says it best in Half Blood Prince when he says that him being far smarter than anyone else causes his mistakes to have far worse consequences than the mistakes of regular men

This relationship is not just complex, it is just downright abusive.

So real quick let me acknowledge that at the time of this comment this video is 3 years old. That said as someone who's just starting out as a KZreadr themselves I have to offer my mad respect to the dedication of the scrip and the ungodly amount of effort that no doubt went into editing. Well worth the sub I can't believe you don't have more subscribers this is fantastic.

Great vid. :)

Can you please do more videos on underrated characters? You made a great video about Prue Halliwell. I would love it if someone analyzed the other sister's, what the other seasons could've been if Prue hadn't died, and other underrated characters like Claire Bennet, Kate Austin, and more. Heroes, Lost, and Once Upon a Time had great female characters (or ones that started off as great) and deserve some credit.

Dumbledore never intended to be close to Harry thats why he kept him at the Dursleys. Dumbledore overall expresses very little genuine care for people. He keeps them at arms lenght while still being kind to the outward observer. Alberforth (his brother) commented on that in the last book. Dumbledore knew how to "guide" Harry into the directions he wanted him to go. Harry being very kind and likable kind of hurt Dumbledore and before he died the books hinted towards that he had grown ot care for Harry and regretted what he "had to do". That is why the confrontation with Snape and Dumbledore about Harry being raised for slaughter is so despicable. Snape is a bully and overall a unkind person but even he recognized how disgusting it was what Dumbledore had done to Harry. And what he actually planned for him. Voldemort despised Dumbledore because he experienced Dumbledores cool calculating nature as a child. And he feared him for it because as a child/young student he had been in a helpless position. I think Voldemorts hate for Dumbledore stems mostly from his helplessness as a child and Voldemort mocks Harry for liking and trusting Dumbledore because of this reason.

@annaeverette8960

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on. I will add that Dumbledore showed very little integrity in his actual job as Headmaster, and it goes all the way back to Tom Riddle. He retrieved the kid from a rather dark, depressing place, and he must have seen *some* warning signs during the time Tom attended Hogwarts; yet he let Harry grow up in a freaking cupboard and he let him keep coming back there every summer? You'd think a good caring person would maybe ring a social worker. Just really think for a second -- Harry had letters delivered to Cupboard Under The Stairs listed *as his actual address*, effectively legitimizing the conditions he was in. Can we talk about how messed up this is*? Frankly I'm impressed that Snape hasn't switched sides when he infiltrated Voldemort's inner circle, because Dumbledore's hypocrisy would be enough of a reason on its own. I guess love is the most powerful weapon after all. *Full disclosure: I only saw the movies, so if the books happen to refer to any possible reasons why Dumbledore felt content with this state of affairs can you please point them out because -- in all seriousness -- it's *disturbing*.

@JP-uf9sh

3 жыл бұрын

@@annaeverette8960 Because of the love protection Harry had to be kept at the Dursleys. It was never quite clear in the books if Dumbledore knew about the cupboard. Harry never told them or anyone about that - at least not directly he meantioned to his friends that they were horrible people and the Weasleys got to see some of it first hand. Dumbledore did not like the Dursleys he even mocked them a little as he came and picked Harry up from them in THBP. (In the book he makes them sit down and gives them a rather "funny" stern talk where full glasses bump them in the head repeatedly.) Harry stayed at his relatives because Dumbledore was sure that Harry was the safest there, but all in all it was a very questionable and a very human choice to keep him with Petunia (his only relative). In the books we see him as a quite glorified character because we see the world through the lense of Harrys perception and the movies are also mostly told from Harrys perspective. In the end Harry does what every child does he sees a mentor/parental figure and slowly comes to realize that they are not omnipotent and invincible. Harry grows up and sees Dumbledore as a "flawed" human being and still loves him for it. Harrys greatest power has always been his capability and willingness to love despite his dire and even horrible circumstances.

@mincriss1850

2 жыл бұрын

That's not true at all Dumbledore put Harry with his family because of the spell of blood that his aunty has to protect Harry

@JP-uf9sh

2 жыл бұрын

@@mincriss1850 I strongly recommend reading the books. Yes that is the reason Dumbledore gives but it was a choice he made for Harry. He decided that it had to be so. There were numerous solutions the blood protection was just an easy one. And it would have been useless after Voldemorts resurrection but arrogantly Voldemort chose Harrys blood thus putting the love protection into himself. Which really was a strike of luck. Dumbledore knew what he had done by putting Harry with the Dursleys and he even expressed his sorrow to Harry. And he confessed at the end that he had started to care for him well knowing what Harry was and that he had to die. (Caring was not intended). Dumbledore expressed repeatedly how proud he was of Harry as his life was coming to an end because he realized that Harry was a better man than he was. And what kind of burden he put on him for the "greater good". Dumbledore showed remorse for his choices because he had the insight that what he had done was not right. Clever from the author since Voldemorts ark is that he would not feel remorse

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Whats a boys life against the life and safety of the Wizirdanig world. Harry really is not a true picture of neglected and abused children, jk stripped him of real human feelings of anger and rage at his life. She wanted him to be a untainted good character

We won't see the true effects of his manipulation til way down the line but then it will be too late,and there won't be a dumbledore to fix his own mistakes for Harry Potter will becone far more terrible then dumbledore in his manipulation

I don’t understand why Dumbledore did not rise Harry as own son

@Dianitaye

3 жыл бұрын

Because the love spell that saved Harry was still on as long he was in the house of his aunt. That’s why lord Voldemort never tried to attack Harry when he was under the “protection” of his aunt.

@Ilikefrogs..

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dianitaye That excuse never made any sense to me. If Harry is spending every summer in a house full of abusive muggles, he is forced to appreciate the wizarding world and therefore Dumbledore that much more. Which makes him much easier to manipulate. I think that was a purposeful choice, and it always rubbed me the wrong way, even when I was a 12 year old reading these books for the first time.

@arianna5270

3 жыл бұрын

Also Harry would not have been the same humble, kind kid if he had been raised in the wizarding world. Had he grown up celebrity it would have been unlikely he would have made as many sacrifices as he did for the greater good.

@ChaoticChalice

3 жыл бұрын

@@arianna5270 James Potter was raised in the wizarding world as a member of a well respected pureblood family and still sacrificed his life for his wife and son. I just don't buy that Harry would have immediately been a horrible person if he hadn't been abused by the Dursley's

@arianna5270

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChaoticChalice I get that but James Potter didn’t kill the most powerful evil wizard since Grindelwald as a baby. Also Harry Potter is a Leo. 👀😉. I don’t think Harry being a kid who would not sacrifice everything for the greater good necessarily would have made him a bad guy. Most teenagers wouldn’t.

Well its greater good and greater good and good its self and IF yuo lock closer at him he s still powerlust like Grindewald and Voldermort only defrent is seeing at greater good diffrent then Grindewald but both Grindewald and dumbeledore look more between magick then Voldermort ho just see what benerfit him🤔what its means that Grindewald is that only dubeldore and not Voldermort and that duneldore was always more poweful than Voldermort well that can not happen beacus in The 6 book and movie dubeldore got ingurde of The Voldermorts mothers ring and get posions just to get The locet and still surveie long enouh back to hogawars from Voldermorts cave and The only one ho can see what dark macik dubeldore has on his hand was snape and Grindewald dept deeper in dark magcik then dumbeledore and then he s still get deffeted by dubeldore and are rest of his time in The prison thej both i think bulidide that togheter IF I dont rameber wrong and dumbbeldore had surle still contackt Grindewald and Voldermort just visning him in The last days of them both so i Wonder why did not free Grindewald and let him and snape working together🤔