The Flash is a masterpiece. We need a CW live action Flash show.

@throwbackglitcher

Жыл бұрын

ThErE's NoWeRe To RuN The Flash Is Insufferably Inconsistent Season 4

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a nightmare show i and many others can milk for content

@throwbackglitcher

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official higher viewers = better show

@BSJ-Unparalleled

Жыл бұрын

Hey Madvocate. So when are we gonna get the Flash is Insufferably Inconsistent part 4?

@robertlafrance9974

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's not always a masterpiece

The writers’ goals are beyond your understanding ⚡️

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Beyond my sanity is more like it

@JDMaverick6714

Жыл бұрын

🤪😂

@alexcirimpei7639

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official 😂😂😂

@zalamael

Жыл бұрын

It was me Barry. I went back in time and convinced the writers at CW to make you look like an idiot!

@NeroLeMorte

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official XD

"The thing about time travel Barry, is the more you understand it, the less the rules apply to you..."

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

That would at least make a little more sense as long as they don't contradict it in the same episode

@The_Watcher_0

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official hopefully season 9 fixes this fucked up timeline, hopes not that high though

@LEGOEGGOE

Жыл бұрын

Its the more you do it not the more you understand it

@KylarStern244

3 ай бұрын

@@The_Watcher_0Abooouuuut that..... :/ Not that I can say much, as soon as he *vibrated away a nuclear explosion and its subsequent radiation (somehow)* I dipped XD

Theres also technically a timeline before season 1 where reverse flash never went back in time to kill Barry's mother and replace the OG Harrison wells. The timeline that thawne and the future newspaper are originally from

@thundervolt1018

Жыл бұрын

Damn you’re right, the og before Thawne decided to fuck everything up

@thetruesora

Жыл бұрын

yeah the characters all act like season 1 was the original timeline (because for Barry that was HIS original timeline) like as time travel starts becoming a thing they're worried about creating a brand new timeline BUT they already know and seem to overlook that they're living in an alternate timeline, that Eobard killing Nora was something that didn't happen originally and was him acting out because he didn't get child Barry

@giovannigiovanni.7220

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruesora OG Timeline: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3-qsbSKptjFaLA.html

@buincqv67

Жыл бұрын

That’s the timeline where the flash was supposed to get his powers in 2020.

@thundervolt1018

Жыл бұрын

But how did Flash get his powers in the original timeline when Thawne was the one that created the Particle Accelerator

I now fear what a legends of tomorrow timeline would look like

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I'm getting PTSD Just thinking about it

@regiman222

Жыл бұрын

To be fair that one's almost supposed to be a clusterfuck, "We screw things up for the better" indeed

@drippychicken23

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official i kinda wanna see one tho

@drippychicken23

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official but i would be dead by the time it finished

@sonicsega6

Жыл бұрын

Legends alone has to have created hundreds of alternate timelines

You forgot that Barry time traveled in the S2 Crossover: Heroes Join Forces (Setups Legends of Tomorrow) Barry went back in time after Vandal Savage nuked the city, killed everyone and told Oliver about his son which greatly affects Arrow going foward

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Fuck i forgot about that crossover. IT NEVER ENDS

@vetchable

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official not to mention that, since barry was there fighting thawn the night his mother died, the "first" timeline is actually a second one (since barry's mom couldn't have been killed by someone who wont be born for 200 years)

@nicolas._.2294

Жыл бұрын

@@vetchable yea, the flash timeline was broken from the first episode

@josegarcia6997

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official not to mention the original timeline where Barry never lost his parents and was still the flash which is the timeline that the reverse flash from season 1 comes from after killing Barry's mom creating a new timeline where his mom is dead, his father is in prison and he moves in with Joe and iris

@vahevanyan6924

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official oh yeah and you forgot else worlds

*I love the writer’s solution for the show’s plot holes:* _Having the characters say it doesn’t make sense over and over again._

He is only explaining the Flash Timeline. I can only imagine what hell it would be to explain entire CW timeline.

I think the biggest plot hole in the show is that Thawne used to be a guy pretending to be A Harrison Wells, but now the show treats him as if he’s a guy who IS A Harrison Wells.

@eduardomunoz4387

Жыл бұрын

Technically the Wells Reverse Flash is a Wells thanks to stealing his DNA for his disguise.

@VwSvNexus

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the other wells that are in the show are ACTUALLY real wells from different universes. The wells that we see at the beginning of the show is actually thawn

@muchanadziko6378

Жыл бұрын

@@VwSvNexuswell…yeah. Nobody was disputing that

@faitheffect254

11 ай бұрын

He’s just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.

@bartholomewnathaniel4900

4 ай бұрын

​@@eduardomunoz4387that's a good point. Why didn't I think of that.

Remember guys, is he just recapped significant points, there are a lot more time f*ck moments that got gloss over.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

If i covered all the fuck moments Id still be making the video

@hynguyen7375

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official yes, and I am glad you do so because Cw writing is so bad it become hilarious as this point :)) keep up the good work

Don’t forget the time he went back in time after Vandal Savage destroyed Central City

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

FUCK. I forgot about that crossover

@Hollowmello1285

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official understandable the bird couple didn't do jack after the first season of legend its easy to forget them

Surprised in the Season 5 recap, you didn't mention that Barry and Nora's plans all go to shit because when they traveled to 2016 to get Thawne's help, they told him EXACTLY what he needed to know to set his plan in motion in Nora's time to free himself from execution 😂 One of the biggest L's from the heroes, but a time travel plot point that...actually had thought behind it and made sense.

Comic Thawne backstory is that he was a Flash fan so became the Flash of his time then Barry from the past showed up and then Barry and him got along but then Barry found out Thawne was causing crimes just to solve them so Barry went back to his time. Thawne was upset and so went back in time to see Barry again but then found out Barry had a whole life without Thawne and he got upset that his relationship with Barry wasn’t special and then found out that he’s supposed to be his enemy through the Flash museum and became the Reverse Flash Now he’s a living paradox that’s can’t really be killed cause another version of him exists throughout the time stream This is why i love Thawne. He has the powers of a god and is so petty lol

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I enjoy pettiness. I just wish the petty revenge made sense. lol

@zemox2534

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official Made sense in the comics but of course CW writing fucks his backstory up. Just like they fuck everything else up on the show

@theunknownvoidz1409

Жыл бұрын

@@zemox2534The most f-up thing is that Thawne became Barry’s enemy because it was the only thing he could think of to spend time with him. Eobard never intended to become the Reverse-Flash, he wanted to become Barry’s partner, the next “Kid Flash” and that’s the rationale on why he chose yellow.

@ShermanYeo

Жыл бұрын

@@theunknownvoidz1409 Well, if I were Barry, I would just ignore him all the time, because all of this bullying and torture to Barry just to spend time with him is just too fucking dumb.

@theunknownvoidz1409

Жыл бұрын

@@ShermanYeo Thawne is, after all, a psychopathic speedster fanboy.

29:39 - I was really hoping you were going to mention how it makes the itty bit of backstory we got for Eobard in season 1 ludicrous. In S1, Eobard tells Barry (in 2015) that he was born 136 years from that point, putting his birthdate in the year 2151. However, in Armageddon, (in late 2021) Eobard says that exactly 200 years from that point is when he first got his speed and his origin supposedly takes place.. but that makes Eobard 71 years old when he first gets his super speed and goes up against Barry… then after however many years of fighting, he goes back in time and kills Nora Allen, bla bla bla, and then spends 15 years in the early 21st century.. years later he spends another 15 years in the mid 21st century.. so… Eobard looks really great for a guy who’s clearly well over 100 years old!!!

@IM_7031

Жыл бұрын

Any plothole after Season 6 concerning previous seasons can be considered a Crisis change

When Thawne revealed that he killed the real Wells, didn't he also admit to setting off the dark matter explosion sooner than it happened in his own original timeline? Which means even the "clean" timeline from 4:00 is actually an offshoot from another one.

@that1nerd756

Жыл бұрын

Well he does both in the same timeline. When Thawne originally got stuck in the past during season 1, he kills Wells because he needs to replace him to speed up the development of the Particle Accelerator. So it's not really another offshoot timeline, it's just season 1.

@MrDj232

Жыл бұрын

@@that1nerd756 But there's a timeline that exists prior to season 1, making the season 1 timeline itself an offshoot from another timeline we never see. One which has its own time travel shenanigans because Barry would have to travel through time to meet Thawne.

@that1nerd756

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDj232 Oh, I think I misunderstood what you were saying. Yeah, I know the original season 1 timeline is an offshoot. I thought you were saying that there should be another branch in the season 1 timeline. One when Thawne kills Barry's mom and another when he kills Wells and sets off the explosion early.

@Hollowmello1285

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDj232 well at least that barry was smart

@MrDj232

Жыл бұрын

@@Hollowmello1285 I wonder if that Barry also stood around talking while villains escaped.

Thawne's main goal was to get Barry to Marry Iris & altering/ruining his life. In the Pilot the future Article that Thawne was looking at wasn't written by Iris. Thawne wants to ruin Barry's live but yet he's happy to push Barry & Iris together.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Honestly at this point nothing makes sense

@kidkatanatv

4 ай бұрын

I'm guessing because Eddie was in the picture and wasn't supposed to happen so Eobard had insurance that he'd naturally be born in the timeline

Btw Central City is in Missouri, it's shown on a map in one episode, and in another one, Joe is looking through some sort of statewide database of driver's licenses or something like that (I forget exactly) and it says Missouri on the computer screen. Also the seal on the front of the file folder from Kramer's time in the military identifies the fictional Fort Dakota, at which she was stationed, as being in Missouri. Specifically, Central City is the fictional equivalent of Kansas City, Missouri, as shown by its precise location in the state when shown on a map, and by the fact that it has a "twin" city, Keystone City, comparable to Kansas City, Kansas, which is right next to Kansas City, Missouri. Side note: Deion mentions in a Season 7 episode that he was going to be the next Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes just so happens to be the quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs in real life. But in the show, Central City's professional football team is the Sharks. So, in the Arrowverse, is Mahomes the QB of the Sharks, while the Chiefs don't exist? Or are there two major professional football leagues- the NFL and the fictional league that the Sharks are in- and Central City has a team in each league, meaning Mahomes is the QB of the Central City Chiefs? Or does Kansas City also exist in the Arrowverse but slightly north or south of where it actually is, because Central City occupies its real-life location within the state of Missouri? All of these are possibilities. It would have been so much less confusing if Deion just said he was going to be the next Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, or anyone else other than Patrick Mahomes.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit. I love this comment. Thanks for the information and I love the fact that the show even is confusing in regards to its sports teams. Also lets not forget that Deon was playing football in the late 90's way before Mahomes was even in the league so in reality he should have said we was going to be the next John Elway or Brett Favre

I would love to see you explain the Legends of tomorrows timeline. Imagine a time traveling show that handle time travel probably just as well as flash does.

@Ana-rf5cu

Жыл бұрын

Time travel in LOT is different. The changes they cause dont really affect the characters themselves, since they're outside the time stream.

@that1nerd756

Жыл бұрын

It's....... It's certainly a bit odd. It definitely has a lot of issues tbh.

@justalittleguy4507

Жыл бұрын

@@Ana-rf5cu but they are effected by the changes in the timeline even when there in the time stream, one of the problem around season 3 episode a character fades out of existence because something bad happened to them in the past, there also other times they lose other things because of a problem in the timeline. But then again there are other times when that doesn't happen. it's almost like LOT time travel has no consistency in the show all about time travel.

my question is how are there metahumans in flashpoint without a particle accelerator explosion

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

....holy shit

@tregriffin4009

Жыл бұрын

Remember the particle accelerator still gets made by the original wells

@JordyProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@tregriffin4009 yeah but that is in 2020

@tregriffin4009

Жыл бұрын

@@JordyProductions it gets created no matter what time line you refer too

@JordyProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@tregriffin4009 yeah but it happens in 2020

The whole flash timeline can be explained in on line. "Congratulations, you played yourself."

I known that this has more to do with another show, but my biggest gripes with the series finale for Arrow can be heavily attributed to the changes done by Crisis.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I do wish the Arrow finale was more self contained

@poolstroke858

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official Speaking of which, do you plan on doing a retrospective thing now that Arrow’s 10 year anniversary is close?

At this point the teacup example that Jay used in season 3 has been grounded to dust, maybe even atomized. Time travel is never straightforward, so you either need rules like Steins Gate, or comedy like Back to the Future. But that's expecting too much out of Flash writers.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Very true. It's such a waste to set up rules only to ignore them at every turn

@adamingram04

Жыл бұрын

I remember an interview with one of the writers around season 3, and he said they were driving themselves crazy in the writers room trying to figure out rules from time travel and how to keep things consistent and he said they had a major breakthrough when they realized it was all made up anyway and they could just create the rules as they go. And he said this as if it was a good thing. I knew at that point that the time travel would never be anything close to consistent

17:44 If zoom was stopped by a time wraith then, that means Barry’s dad is still alive, flashpoint was never created because Barry would have no reason to do so, and Savitar only exists post flashpoint, so he won’t exist, and Ralph is dead according to Thawne in season 1.

You can see how much his anger has been built up throughout the video by looking at the start of the video and the end lol

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

It was very painfull. I peaked my mic a few times. lol

Yeah. There have been lots of times throughout the show where I have been confused with stuff. For example 1. How Reverse Flash is still alive after Eddie killed himself. It sort of made sense seeing him only exist in the past as a timeline remnant during s2 and s3. But it didn't make sense seeing him alive in earth x crossover and seeing him in s5 future and later seasons. Plus its strange him not using his real face played by Matt. S1 timeline made sense to look like wells but after that timeline only matt should play him. 2. Savitars origin story is very confusing as well. 3. Some of the time travel changes are confusing. 4. Time remnants

@enoyna1001

Жыл бұрын

I've read the Arrowverse Wiki article on time remnants. To be honest, it was easier to understand spin quantum mechanics than this bs.

Yo, let's talk about the number of retcons in just the season 8 finale alone! Look, this was better than season 7, but that doesn't mean this season was any good!

@beastonea

Жыл бұрын

everything after s5 was trash

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I plan on talking about it. I touch on it here but Just wait till the end of the video I tease my next couple of videos.

@DemigodShmurda

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official Can't wait!

@beastonea

Жыл бұрын

@MostaVerse I felt like the second half of season 6 was forcing feminism Wayyy to much. It was really bad. After s6 the show just becomes a feminist shitshow. And yeah, Bloodwork was pretty sick.

@beastonea

Жыл бұрын

@MostaVerse how lol

I NEED a full video about the multiverse. Please do it :)

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I may just do that

@FariZK

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official yes dew it

Great video! I have a migraine AND I'm crying but that's nothing compared to the pain you must've felt putting this all together

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I will take the pain so you all don't have to

I'd love to see you cover the multiverse!! It's just as messed up as the timeline.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

This video has definitely been put on the to do list

It's like how previously flash point is created by travelling to the past bt now travelling to the future also causes it somehow.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Cause rule mean nothing in this show

@yugiwinninglex

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official yea. Eric wallace just writing whatever he wants.

@eduardomunoz4387

Жыл бұрын

Well, "past" and "future" are matters of perspective. Even if Barry travels to the Future, that still creates a "Flashpoint" of some sort for the people in the future, including Nora herself.

Extra timelines that should be added: 1. Original timeline where Barry's mother was alive 2. Timeline where Savage nuked Central City in the crossover 3. Timeline where Barry goes back in time to create a remnant to help stoping Zoom 4. Timeline where Barry never knew Iris was going to be killed by Savitar 5. Timeline where Barry didn't go to the future and got knowledge from his future self 6. When Despero time travelled 7. All the times Nora and Bart time travelled 8. All the times the reverse flash time travelled 9. All the times godspeed time travelled 10. Every new timeline created in Legends of Tomorrow Conclusion: the timeline looks more like a spider web

@Rachebart

7 ай бұрын

I really want to see this ❤

Actually the lack of time wraiths in season 1 make sense. The first time Barry “Time traveled” he didn’t really time travel, kinda just turned back time, explains no time wraiths. The second time he time traveled (In the finale) the reason there were no time wraiths was because thawne was there. In season 2 episode 17, Barry encounters his first time wraith and when thawne finds out Barry isn’t his Barry, he reveals that he knows how to keep out of the way of time wraiths.

i remember for the earth x crossover that was explained as time travelling nazis according to notes Cisco put on the white board in one season 6 episode but IIRC they conveniently didn't show his notes on how the events of season 2 went down post-crisis

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW LIKE WHAT IS THE TIMELINE IN REGARDS TO SEASON 2 NOW!

I briefly understood the timeline of the show now I wonder what were the writers thinking

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thats easy they weren't

@overdrivestorm6988

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official I'm sure it wasn't

@Ana-rf5cu

Жыл бұрын

It must've been pretty hard to keep track of everything for 8 years and they didnt have such a great overview of everything that had happend until that moment. But they really overused time travel in this show. They never should've brought nora into the show.

Quick thing to note: In season 7 Bart and Nora are from the year 2049 as well. At the start of Season 7 episode 17 there's a title card that says so. Same in season 8.

Yeah……. I’m going to need you to cover those multiverses, that’d be great !

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Most likely I will

And you know the funny thing. For season 8 they could have given the excuse on why Barry doesn't remember key events because he was either visiting the speedforce or he was dropping something off somewhere. And that could be the excuse on why he didn't remember all the things that happened

Dudes videos are the best thing to happen to me today

You missing a Major fact, from the first episode of the show it was already set in an alternative timeline that was created by Wells causing barry to gain his powers a couple years earlier.

The biggest victim here is the poor marker at the end. What did it do to you to deserve so much violence?

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

It was just in the wrong hands at the wrong time

on Supergirl that show had other universe's doppelgangers show up. in one episode she goes to a bar she's friends with the owner and him and his doppelganger then became co-owners and live on earth prime as brothers. speaking of the rules and inconsistencies, that show was ok with post crisis having people popping up on earth prime while on Batgirl there being 2 of Kate's sister around meant their existence was hurting each other that one had to die

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

The arrowverse has no consistency when it comes to the effect that other shows and crossovers have on each other

@thetruesora

Жыл бұрын

​ @G.I. Gio ironically legends of tomorrow is my favourite by owning up to its wacky nonsense and wearing its craziness openly. I can't remember which show it was for but one of the producers i think admitted there wasn't really much communication between the shows to know much of what the post crisis version of for the previous seasons of each shows then looked like. it was just "well if you want to reuse an old villain then you can change it to whatever you want it to be now". as for inconsistencies, i think between the flash (even within itself) and legends of tomorrow, i'm sure they've used time remnant usually to refer to the past self that is now on a different path but a few times they've called the version that travelled back in time as the time remnant. like in the second season finale of LoT the future versions of the legends i think are referred to as remnants at one point when it should be their past selves. that might be me either mishearing or misremembering it. One side note that also about "trouble with timelines and stuff" is that they had it be because Harry and Jessie were on Earth 2 they weren't affected by Flashpoint and when they returned in season 3 they were able to see that there were changes. suggesting there's a rule that if you're on another earth then you're free to remember your timeline and be unaffected. which feels like it should have some implications. but its just an asspull to say "er yeah post flashpoint they're still ok as we don't wanna deal with what differences they might have gone through". its brought up by them not knowing the "new time lab" or whatever it was that wasn't there pre-flashpoint. surely it would have been fine to have them recognise it from their experience in the rewrote version of season 2 but ok. anyway, kinda rambled a bit there but great videos and look forward to your one talking more about season 8 and all others you make :D

i would just like to add that if Nora and Bart in season 7 came back from 2042... Nora (confirmed 26 years old) was born in 2016.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

....for fuck sakes

@penuelodiaka6359

Жыл бұрын

No she was 26 years old in 2049, not 2042. She was born in 2023

@gracekim25

Жыл бұрын

@@penuelodiaka6359 thank you

25:00 my best guess is that he with came back to earth 1 and some how survived, but most likely survived by staying in the speed force

21:50 not to mention when Barry saw “all the possibilities” he said the only ones were either him sacrificing himself to save the multiverse or everyone dying not some 1990 version lmao this timeline bro

I used to track the timelines like obsessively like this because I love time travel stories, but I gave up around Crisis. There's so many inconsistencies that the writers weren't even trying to keep track of by season 5 and 6 🙃

Harry mentioned that he could track Jesse using her frequency he got that idea from 2018 Barry and also since the time wraith caught zoom it probably just earased his memory

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

That is a lot of assumptions to make. I feel like the writers should have explained that if that was the case

@mandalorianjedi232

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official well it was during season 2 they probably didn’t want to reveal anything yet but I do love the connection

@eduardomunoz4387

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official I mean... It could also explain why Zoom was so terrified of the Time Wraths despite probably never encounter them before.

I didn’t realize this before but I like how they killed reverse flash who is immune to paradoxes with a paradox but Zoom who is just a regular speedster was completely unaffected by a paradox

@kidkatanatv

4 ай бұрын

See that's the thing about time travel Zander! The more you do it, the less the rules apply to you!

30:39 Just something: Now, they presume that the Time Wraiths brought him back as a reward but considering how his every action and very existence contributes to Negative Deon's plan I'd say that Season 8 goody-two-shoes Eobard is Deon's doing

Im sad and happy at the same time that the Flash is about to end in S9. Hope to see zoom savitar or rf in the last season

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

It's really bitter sweet. On one hand the show will be put out of its misery, but on the other hand i need to find a new show to milk. lol

Alright, I'll throw my hat in the ringer. I'd definitely like to see you do a video on the Arrowverse multiverse. And I'd also like you to dissect what happened to the multiverse after Crisis. Cause in the end of the event, we see other worlds like the ones with Doom Patrol, Star girl and Superman and Lois. Heck even Superman and Lois reference the multiverse in their show, which by the way, takes place post Crisis. So does the Arrow verse multiverse still exist or what?

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its a big mess. People seem to want that kind of video so the likelyhood of it happening has increased

@Brandonhung95

Жыл бұрын

Apparently Superman doesn't take place in the Arrowverse, or Earth Prime, but on a similar earth but without all the heroes of Earth Prime that's why they are never referenced in the show. It's still dumb thoughbecause technically there is still a multiverse, but I guess they're closed off from the Arrowverse. I dunno.

@thetruesora

Жыл бұрын

the multiverse still exists its that the people on earth prime think they're the only earth left since they cant access the multiverse anymore like they used to be able to

This video was actually fantastic, keep up the good work!

i’ve been watching this video in parts for the last 12 hours or so and it was a great video to watch. can’t believe you actually suffered through all that it looked really rough to make. because it never made sense to begin with so it’s all a show with no rules i suppose 😂 great video Gio and we all appreciate the quality of it! (P.S nice hand writing lmao)

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I am glad you enjoyed and hopefully i can step up the quality next video. (P.S thank you)

@CalvinNoire

Жыл бұрын

Watch time go BRRR

Amazing Video bro! On the timeline of The Flash 🔥⚡️

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! glad you liked it

I always thought it was insane how Zoom from season 2 could keep up with Nora and Barry from SEASON 5 🤣🤣

@Josh-oj9mm

Жыл бұрын

Nora is slow as fuck and Barry slowed down purposely because otherwise he would smoke past her

@studyingeducation8438

Жыл бұрын

They were not wearing protective suits to run faster, their clothes would fry

This video being essentially a break down of how hard berry fucks up is so special to me I love the way that's just how it has to be.

Alternate Title: G.I. Gio slaughters The flash CW for 30 minutes

Honestly this is perfect in place of a video about Season 8. You've suffered enough, don't subject yourself to more torture!!

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

nah I'm a gluten for punishment

21:55 My exact feelings with crisis and season 6. Vanishing had been built up for 6 years, and then it surmounted to nothing. The first half of season 6 leaned heavily into that plot thread This was the last Jedi moment of the flash for me.

7:30 it actually makes complete sense when you go insane, time remnants are fragments of timelines that don’t actually exist, but exist because they need to to make the current timeline exist, if they’re stopped before they cause said timeline (like the reverse flash) bad things happen, but if it’s after like Zoom’s time remnant presumably was, it causes no ill effects on the timeline, as its the equivalent of killing an alternate earth version of yourself.

Daaammnnn, the editing and the way you explain stuff in this video is so good. you are underrated.

It's speed force, we don't have to explain shit!

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

That seems to be the rule in the writers room

Do legends of tomorrow's timeline next

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Are you on drugs. I would die

next try explaining how kate kane was pronounced by the cosmic powers to be the universe’s “bat of the future” only to be replaced by a different bat less than a year later

I love how he slowly, but consistent, looses sanity, after every node up timeline mess-ups xD

I don’t think Thawne was being serious when he said “You just ran out of luck” about the Time Wraiths. I think it was a little joke. What I think the reason they didn’t attack Barry in season 1 is because the speed force knew what was going to happen so they show Barry a speed mirage of his future self time traveling and then Barry time travels and alters the timeline, saving Central City. Like the speed force told Barry that they let him create flashpoint because it knew Barry was hurting from his father's death in season 3.

There are a few more details I should mention that breaks the lore of the Arrowverse after Crisis. "pulls out presentation stick" 1. Apparently Jay is alive because Henry Allen is dead on Earth 1, so Jay can't get erased. But.....that doesn't make sense either. I need to point out the matter that Jay and Henry would've grew up on the same Earth together, which means they've should've both died a long time ago or something. 2. When Thawne created Reverse-Flashpoint, it should've permanently erased the present timeline that Team Flash lives in. Ex: You know when Despero murders all of Barry's friends? .....That shouldn't have been possible because the timeline should be gone. 3. Gio, you should use this for your Season 8 video. The Negative Forces want to kill Barry because he disrupted the cosmic balance or something when he took Thawne's speed.....Yet there's not problem with Thawne trying to kill Barry all these years? Also, isn't it confusing that the Negative Forces have existed since the beginning of time when Barry created the Positive Forces? "puts away presentation stick" Whew, that took a lot out of me. You know, I keeping hearing people say that Flash has always been bad. But seasons 1 and 2 at least were pretty self contained. In fact even if I were to agree that those seasons are bad, I would say it's not because Barry is dumb.....It's because the villains are underpowered and might not be as competent as their comic versions.

@thundervolt1018

Жыл бұрын

I’m just confused, since the Negative Speed Force was something Thawne made to combat the actual Speed Force that Barry had. So how would the Negative Speed Force be there since the beginning of time if it was made as a sorta rip off the the og Speed Force

@thetruesora

Жыл бұрын

i thought they went with "Jay and Joan transferred over to earth-prime they were remade as separate people and no longer alternate doppelgangers of Henry and Nora"? that still doesn't cover the other issues of them growing up on the same earth and having the same face as Barry's parents but yeah officially i'm pretty sure its that post crisis and the newly formed earth-prime included having it be "these people are universally recognised as earth-prime Jay and Joan, not earth 3(?) Henry and Nora". However, that doesn't fully cover it as there's the question of Jay's appearance on Stargirl. According to the actor its supposed to be the same version of Jay which would suggest that post crisis he's from THAT Earth and then at some point in the last decade ish moved to Earth Prime

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Great comment as usual Jax. but yeah the lore has been beyond screwed at this point. I can still watch season 1 and 2 and get enjoyment out of it but season 4 onwards just hurts my soul

@jaxxpool9630

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official BTW, you should tell me if I need to make my comments shorter. Someone said I type too long and it's kinda a bad habit of mine.

The negative speed force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be… unnatural. They could have just gone the Poe Dameron route “Somehow Thawne Returned”

yes by the way we do need a separate multiverse vid

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

It's gonna happen

I subbed just for that Mia Malkova line alone, that's all the Flash lore canon I needed to know😂

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

It's all you will ever need. lol

@mzothuledlamini7601

Жыл бұрын

God bless Mia Malkova

This was hilarious 😂. Thanks for the update cuz I'd never put myself through this

Eric Wallace: Never forget, I am the dumbest man alive

You really went through it here.... Is it bad that I enjoyed this lolll

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

No, I suffer for your entertainment. Its a tough job but someone has to do it

@itsmefm

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official I really commend you for your hard work!!! You deserve more subs and recognition

Explaining this timeline is a running joke in my family cause both my dad and sibling cant really get it. It goes over their heads. At least my sib gets multiverses while my dad is still confused after watching loki I had to explain it and he still only gets half of it. So whenever I just want to make them confuse I just start talking about this timeline with the little knowledge I have cause I droppedthe show after the Thinker was the villian.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Yeah trying to explain this shit to my dad is like trying to speak to him in mandarin. Its such a mess it is baffeling

This is such a good video to have the amount of views it does. Keep it up man

6:20 you could argue that the first time travel Barry did was not enough for the time wraiths to care about. Or it could be possible that there aren't enough time wraiths for all of the multiverses and all the different speedsters. There is also the possibility that they simply do not care if a speedster time travels for the first time and it is simply a "test drive" or a that they don't notice a speedster time travel until after the first time travel explaining why they go after Barry the second time he does.

Video Idea: What to do with The Flash Movie with Ezra Miller issue, (Recast, Wally, Comic Accurate, Grant Gustin) Basicly with you being a Flash fan what would you want your movie

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I have thought of the idea of rewrites and pitches for videos, it just trying to find the time and doing it in a fresh way

This video feels like a monty python sketch

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Hopefully you enjoyed

One of the greatest videos I’ve ever watched

Sounds like a major case of wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Great video Gio!

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thanks ma! glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks for my lesson of CWology 101

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

All of this will be on the test

@koshinukeprower4477

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official I have to brush up on my studies then.

I just can't wait to see how they are going to handle this new Captain Boomerang. Is he the son of Digger Harkness, Owen Mercer? And/ or the half brother of Bart Allen like in the comics?

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

I want it to be a half brother jsut so i can see the show try to explain that shit. lol

@jussieb7244

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck to them

@eduardomunoz4387

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official I mean... There's still the ORIGINAL Timeline before Thawne time travelled and killed Nora, so...

Y’know for the Time Wraith thing they could’ve just put a LIMIT on the Amount of time a speedster can travel through. Thawne and Zoom have been traveling for weeks-Months Years- Where as Barry traveled for one day- so the time wraiths could’ve just been like- “It’s not a WEEK- He’s fine-“

Looks like You put on some weight, that's good King. Keep up tha Good Work.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thank man! Been trying hard to gain some weight and muscle.

You Know Sonic the Hedgehog is One of the Few Speedsters that Doesn't Time Travel,Sure the Franchise had Time Travel Before with The Chaos Emeralds,Science,Magic,or Cosmic,but Sonic 06 at least made the Timeline Works from Beginning,Middle,and End,Why Am I Saying This? Because I would Rather Play Tons of Sonic Games than to Deal with Flash's MESSED UP TIMELINE,Seriously What in all the 10 Hells Happen,This is a Disaster that Fried My Mind that Drinking a Galon of Coffee made me Focus that losing My Mind,Yes the Flash can Rely on Time Travel Story,but it's a Limited Thing,the Series made it Worse,Anyway I'm Looking Forward for the Next Video Tearing Season 8 Apart because KZreadrs like Airrick and Pagey Trying to Supporting the Flash Sickens Me.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Damn what a comment. Honestly when i started this video i didn't realize how much of a mess the timeline has become. I am honestly starting to hate time travel stories as most of the time they aren't done well at all (obviously with exceptions like back to the future). But yeah expect more flash content very soon

@featherguardian6023

Жыл бұрын

​​@@GIGio_Official The Feeling is Mutual my Friend,Back to the Future is the Only Good Time Travel Story I would love Forever but MK11,Supergirl,Doctor Who,Legends of Tomorrow,Endgame,and the Flash Ruin It for Me,It's Clear that at this Point of 8 Seasons they Give Up Logic and Reason and Invent Garbage in their Rearends.

They the flash timeline is so broken I wonder if the next few will break the dc universe or so forth. Already the arrow universe is so fused.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

At this point there is no saving this timeline

You forgot the timeline that we only ever see in the flashback when the original Barry Allen fights against Thawne in their living room. But otherwise well done, I stopped keeping track of the timelines after Crisis because I knew the writers would just use it as an excuse. I was so invested at the time during season 3, I did an almost 6 page rewrite for Savitar to have him make sense and not in a way that would have cost them more money. Since it was all replacements for their dialog scenes. The only time it got worse was Crisis, I had stopped caring and just enjoyed it for what it was without thinking. But Crisis was so bad I went a little crazy and did a major 14 page rewrite of several points and key changes that I still think they would have been do able since I was careful as to not put anything in it that they clearly couldn't afford. It would even have saved them money since I would have removed certain characters either somewhat and one in particular all together.

Before even start this, I know I'm going to love it!

Babe wake up Madvocate is live!

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Fuck. once this video finished premiering i literally didn't even look at my phone. I need to catch his next stream

The time wraiths don’t go when ever the writers want them to in the show. The first time was Barry didn’t know he could time travel even and the second time was because his mother

Please I would love to see all those different universes explained and I'm interested in watching your future episodes in your past episodes I get to go back in time in a way

I'm pretty sure I was subscribed before, it's weird that KZread unsubscribed me. Another great video, I love your work.

Dude, what's up with your audio?

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Yeah was using a lav. mic for the first time and didn't anticipate how much it would peak. I saved it as much as i could in the edit but now i know more adjustments would need to be made in the future along with using my normal mic as a back up. Thanks for pointing that out.

@kateomahoney

Жыл бұрын

@@GIGio_Official Thanks for the response! If that happens again, the Highpass filter might help. It's saved me a couple times!

Barry wasn’t actually adopted, he was more of a foster child than an adopted one, he just sees Joe as a dad because he raised him, but he’s not Iris’s brother in any sense of the word besides foster brother, if he can even be called a foster brother

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough. It's just wierd to me at first glance

Love the vid. I have watched flash since season one and I still do but I can agree it is a mess. Glad to see a 'complete timeline' of it all. Also loved the stickman orgy line. Fucking perfectly sums up what a show with time travel should not look like chronologically.

I’ve been watching the series and I thought about how broken the timeline probably is I didn’t think anyone would be crazy enough to piece it all together

great video 😂😂😂 I think we can all agree they just stopped caring at some point. A shame tho, I stopped watching the show when Nora reset the timeline 52 times 😭

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thank you man, and you are a smarter man than most

Betting money that their gonna bring back Savitar and Zoom next season so they can make the timeline even more confusing, and break ur sanity. At this point the writers goals will be beyond ur sanity.

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

At this rate my season 9 video is gonna be me going nuclear

I'll say it: To defeat Cicada they should've just called Team Arrow, made out of a bunch of non-metas very capable of dealing with a supersoldier in 3 episodes tops

You deserve more subs and views 🔥🔥🔥

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! I really appreciate it. I'm hoping for 25k before 2023. But gotta keep grinding

Season 8 just made Thawne lame

@GIGio_Official

Жыл бұрын

Agreed