This is reminiscent of the Panasonic GH2 hack! I'm excited to see what can evolve from this technique!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man... well, this has almost no practical application, so don't expect toooo much ;-)

@heyndre

5 жыл бұрын

How to you joining the 8k footage on After effect? Give some tutorial 🍻🍻 i want experiment in 65 large format

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

​@@heyndre It's right in here… but very short as it is so simple… kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4hnt5KEm9TfYco.html And (as I mention in the end of this video), I did the 65mm experiment already……………… here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoJmm85sn9i4Zpc.html

@gianniellis7721

2 жыл бұрын

I realize it is pretty off topic but do anyone know a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?

You deserve an award for not only the content of this video but the cinematography and presentation. The work you put in to such a specialist video is remarkable, well done!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Hugh.... very kind of you and very motivating. Trying to get better always always.

04:15 That stop motion effort.. Neat.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!!

4:54 - that finger print on the sensor though...

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

was waiting for that... as you can see on the very next scene it has been cleaned.

@forrestmcbride6373

3 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Lol 'cleaned'

VERY interesting. I’ll go with 5K boosted, mostly because I already have that equipment. I think most of us (myself included) worry way too much about ideal when what we already have is more than good enough.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks.... and agreed. But hey.... being a nerd is halve the fun ;-)

@Supperconductor

5 жыл бұрын

Media Division Indeed it is!

I just wanted to say thank you for producing such high quality, engaging content. Not only does it look beautiful, but the structure and overall pacing of your content makes me excited for what I'm about to experience. I look forward to every one of your videos. Thanks again for producing such striking, quality content.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brandon.... that is very motivating. I will try to get better and better.... thanks for hanging around!!

Dude. Thank you for having a good concept review video. More people need to see this and follow suit. This is AWESOME!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Robert. Naaa.... leave that to me please ;-)

Dude. This is *amazing* -- the execution, depth of information, polish, etc. are all just breathtaking. I don't really sub to filmmaker videos because it's all basically just HOW TO MAKE YOUR VIDEOS LOOK LIKE OTHER POPULAR VIDEOS but you've really outdone yourself and I can't not give you props for it. Your color grading/cinematography are really beautiful as well. Would love to see more info/tutorials from you on those. Again, thanks for the really great, high-effort work. Subbed!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

That so sweet of you Luke.... very much appreciated. I know what you mean... KZread can feel a bit redundant in that way. Glad you think I have developed an own voice. I have quite a bit of tuts and bts that touch your request and more will follow in the future. If you want to know anything specific, just let me know Thanks for hanging and with that name you need to watch the Goldvader tutorial ;-)

This channel is making the content we really want to see! Great stuff!!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Erik!!! So nice of you and thanks for hanging!

Everything about this video is just amazing! This deserves so many thumbs up!! Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce this, real quality video.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Babebey… trying my best and it can only get better ;-)

amazing as always. thank you very much for the video. it actually answers some questions that i always want to know but cannot bring myself to find out.

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean... glad you found something useful

DOOOODAH!! You know your scat!"Although I will be 63 in 2weeks I want to grow up and be just like you. I only have to watch to your presentation 20 more times so I can remember the word speed throttler. Just remember I'm with you coach! Cheers!

@MediaDivision

Жыл бұрын

Thanks… rather watch out newer episodes… we got soooooo much better since

That was GREAT!!!! Loved it. Subscribed and looking forward to more. I love my GH lineup (4,5 & 5s) plus all my speedboosters. Thank you dude!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man.... glad to have you around. I do few Gh5 specific videos, so I hope that will not be a problem. I think more about doing generally cool stuff. Experiments, cinematography, recreating classic effects... all the is fun.

@sbrown6434

5 жыл бұрын

Media Division looking forward to learning more than about my camera. I think you’ve got cool ideas. There’s a ton of GH5 stuff out there, not a lot of clever stuff like this!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@sbrown6434 then I'm even more glad to have you around ;-)

Génial, superbe travail merci de partager ces expérimentations dans ce format ! Nice

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Laurent !!!

Nothing that hasn't been said before on the comments. This is frankly brilliantly executed and educational. Thanks a lot for creating it.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for that Oni... and thanks a lot for hanging around!

Can you ask Panasonic for an early model of the S1 for a testing video? You would be the perfect person to test the camera for 2 months and then release several in-depth videos on the capabilities of the camera.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

thanks man... I happen to be admin of the FB group, too. So yes.... I guess ;-) tell them... but only if I can keep it :-)))))

Absolutely incredible man, this channel deserves so much subs

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tune! Give me a hundred years and I'll make this worth while ;-)

Great Experiment as always!! Miss your videos man and nice look ;)

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Darko... trying to do more, but even a short one like this takes 3 days in total and I have a small boy at home... trying to get better and faster

I stumbled across this video on reddit, then came here and lost an entire evening on your channel. Excellent videos. Excellent presenting style, and excellent knowledge. Don't stop making videos. Your style is so refreshing when most of youtube is all about fast cuts, stock music and slo mo b roll. You get to the point, explain it well and you do it so well because you understand it. I have to stop typing now because if i continue your wife may get jealous ha ha.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Wagon Wheele.... thanks for the flowers. That is kind to say and very motivating for me. I hope I will improve and do many even better things in the future. I know the wife problem :-)))))))

Nicky you're a genius, conducting interesting experiments that I only partially understand but completely entertaining nonetheless.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Billy!! Genius.... hardly .... but it is a nice thought :-) thanks for hanging

I haven't seen anything quite like this before. This should be KZread's hit video. Many thanks for your effort. Wish to see more.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… I wouldn't mind for sure. Spread the word ;-) There is a lot already and more to come… a little patience… This is not something I can make a living from

@JajabarBangladesh

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Sharing your videos with my friends and geek lovers will be a joy and I will.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@JajabarBangladesh Thats is terribly nice of you! Thanks a lot

Love the experimentation. The 8k looks very sharp and I like how the light rays are more visible.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Camilo Pineda thanks Camilo.... in all fairness.... the light rays might change from scene to scene as the haze in the room changes slightly.

Well done, nice results!

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Thanks a ton. Love your content

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Aman… it is my pleasure… and thanks for hanging

Excellent and very valuable! Thank you!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Piotr!!!!!

Thank you! very informative and very well presented video, as always. Ive been having doubts if buying a speedbooster or not.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

cheers Ignacio.... well the 18-35 + booster might not be so relevant in this test, but in low light situation it is gold. I used it on events over and over and over... love it. If you have a GH5s, it is less relevant for sure.

Gud Tutorial bro. U open my eye to something Amazing. thanks a million.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Shae… I'm glad I could do that for you!!!!

Ok. I’m not even sure what I just watched but Sir it was awesome! Definitely hitting that 🔔

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… glad to have you… stay with us and we get there… I don't know where there is exactly ;-)

Lets go - That was an interesting video, as usual!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

I'm loving your experiments, with or without practical application. That's what experimenting is all about! I'd like point out, and thank specially for putting so much care in the cinematography of your videos and tuts themselves, not only in the examples, but throughout all the video. There's so many content out there that's good enough in it's content, and when the examples come, but then the "guy talking" is badly lit, overexposed, and overall ugly. Yours are a pleasure to watch all through. Thank you.

@MediaDivision

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pablo... always trying to make dry subjects entertaining and seamless... glad you feel we succeeded

who on earth gonna make such a epic content. subscribed

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... thanks man..... and thanks for hanging

eyo a new video! glad to see the channel grow

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Me too Ruddy… cheers man

Your videos are great. I think this will be your year of channel growth!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man.... that would be really sweet

I'm super excited for your next project!!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Me tooooo… I already had to change pampers twice… Ultra Panavision 70.......... but I can't promise it will be my next. One of my next. Have to wait for a couple of things!!! Patience!

@sheggy5442

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision I'm sure it's going to be awesome whenever you finish it!!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@sheggy5442 I'll make sure…… thanks for hanging

Mate your videos are amazing! Educational and force you to think on the subject after the class

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Well, thank you my dear sir……… never thought I would kind of give homework ;-)

@josecolon8143

5 жыл бұрын

Media Division 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

Woah! Great experiment, thanks for that. I like the speedbooster combo not only for the imagequality but for the versatility my other canon lenses (10-18mm eg) give me

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… sure… same for me… but most importantly for the gained stop.

Great video, thanks

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sai.... my pleasure

absolutely outofworld great studied!!!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mangesh

wow, a future-proof video in 2019 ;) I don't even watch YT in 1080p yet...

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

it might be time for a new TV, Laptop etc...... no, seriously.... diminishing returns and all.... 4K on KZread is worth it for the bandwidth

It's shameful how horribly underappreciated this channel is. This is a truly remarkable channel

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Christian..... working on it ;-) give me 2000 years

Subscribed...notifications turned on. Good stuff 👍🏻

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Viral! Nice to have you around

I love your gh5 vids. Top notch work. Softer might be related to how much light is reaching the sensor compared to F. F stop transmission maybe uniform, however variance of T stop might occur. Just a guess.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Faust.... hmmmm, the light transmission is surely inhibited by the booster (very little), but that doesn't change the IRIS of the lens and therefor not the DOF. The image would just be slightly darker, or noisier if compensated in the grade. If my cam had auto iris activated, it would open the iris to compensate (my guess would be still to little to make a difference lake this)... but that would result in a boosted image with shallower DOF... nor vice versa. So, thats not it ;-) The best explanation so far seems to be a flange distance that is off. Thanks for your input!!

Dude your channel is literally the only one on KZread I feel the need to use 4K. Like I have to use 4K or better if I ever get better. Please make more content, and your music sample is perfect since it screws with my childhood melodies (nostalgia).

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

I try man, I try… but these videos make no money, so this is just a hobby and I got children to feed. There will be episodes comeing… don't worry

@dct124

4 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Eventually you will. I love what Peter does as well at 4m subs which didn't happen overnight. Long road but fast later on, when he got to 1m; 2m, 3m & 4m came really quick. Speaking engagements and collabs helped push his channel. Capitalize 👇 I was seriously looking at medium format lenses after watching your video. A sponsorship or affiliation with ProFoto, eBay kickbacks, Amazon, etc. Right now I own a D300. I'm looking at the Z 50 & Z 6, D3s, D5, D500, D850 Fuji X-T3, GH5, Leica M2, 5DMk 4. I have studio space. I'll be getting my old strobes back but would like to switch over to LED. I'll convert from paper back drops to cloth. Some don't prefer to do affiliations but personally I don't care. I rarely ever use them but if it's of high interest (photography) like I'm rebuilding my photography kit and studio. Once I've paid a few bills. Nov. at the earliest and Feb. at the latest I'll have the funds to pay for the new kit.

@dct124

4 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision I'd love to use medium format digital but it just don't make sense for me right now.

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Sure... there is always one who made it big with something... but I have to feed a family now. I know the theory and the progression curve... but it is what it is... theory. I do use affiliate... you find affiliate links related to my episodes in the descriptions but that is really something close to nothing.

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

it doesn't really make a meaningful difference at all. Back in the analog days it was a clear boost in resolution, but today, it became unnecessary. FF is really a sweet spot

This channel just 🤯🤯🤯

@MediaDivision

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Very cool experiment - the speed bosted is definitely worth the investment, - Your depth of field query... the 8k composite "spin twin", is the only version of the test with the larger flange distance. Flange distance does effect DOF

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… yeah, flange is a good candidate even though I tried hard to get it right. If that is the solution I am amazed how drastic the effect is and I wonder, why nobody ever^developed a mini tube mount where you can alter the flange in a very small amount (that is not the same as tilt shift). That would totally erase DOF arguments with same sensors?! Of course you can't reach infinity that way, but in cases where you want DO you usually not at infinity.

@StewartMarsden

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Perhaps use a bellows (commonly used for macro)

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@StewartMarsden I own bellows, but the y don't move sideways and the flange is waaay to short to fit a bellows in between. Even if there where bellows moving sideways and thin enough… they still will not magically give the right flange… quite the opposite as bellows are made to alter the flange

Cool concept!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Very interesting video, 👍🏼 of course here in México go for a larger sensor means a big economical sacrifice that some times clients don’t even appreciate neither want to paid for it

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

thanks.... thats not a Mexican but a global problem, but hey, halve the fun is being a nerd

Awesome man 😍

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sajjad

I love this, this is great. If I were going to (finally) invest in a Metabones speedbooster for my GH5, which "mount" would give me the most utility/variety of lens choices? Canon EF mount? I just watched your video on the Mamiya lenses so my wheels are spinning. Thanks!

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert, I thinks that EF is the most versatile and allows most options unless you already have a large set of F mount lenses

Interesting video! I always feel the higher resolution the camera, the more I have to not make it look like high resolution, for the actors and for the story. Using an 8k RED, for example, looks hopstital clean; using lenses from the 60s or 70s, in addition to filters makes it more pleasing to the eye; my 2cents. If the budget is there, having the flexibility of shooting in 8k or 6k and modifying the image with lenses/filters, is preferred.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

thanks man.... agreed. I use Mamiya 645 lenses (many shots in this) and the talkies have a 1/4 black promist on them. Still, I like high res for detail and fine noise. Extremely high res actually makes an image less sharp... I know that is counterintuitive - it is simply because there are more gradients between areas of high contrast. Check out this test where I use the method to produce a 12K Alexa 65 sized sensor with EVA1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoJmm85sn9i4Zpc.html

Very interesting experiment...

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers John

I just love it !!!!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

I just love you tooooo 😜

Since we are talking about micro-four-thirds what I your thoughts on black magic cinema pocket camera?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I never used it… but it surely looks good on paper and the image looks very good, too. As always, it comes down to what you want to do. The BMPCC 4K is useless for events, run and gun etc for the lack of a handy codec. You just can't produce several Terrabytes of data with every job, if you have one job after the other. If you only do narrative, it looks like the best option for the best price at the moment. If you have to do both, the GH5s looks like the best MFT at this time, just because you can cover both, and the IQ of ProRes HQ does not trump Panasonics 422 10bit h264 or even 420 HEVC. But that is just my opinion.

Interesting. 👍

@MediaDivision

3 жыл бұрын

indeed... thanks

Great video. I think the dof is actually the same despite the different degree of background blur. And there is no flange-distance problem as other have suggested. Note that dof is defined by the distance that is in focus. And the focus is a matter of reaching a certain threshold of resolution. As long as different resolution curves cross at this point the dof is the same. However different shapes of resolution curves are possible. The larger format here has a steeper one. I think that's because the speed-booster increases the asymmetry of the optics. Creating a curve that deviates from a flater symmetrical bell shape resulting in a smaller circle of confusion.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the flowers and the input. You are talking about optical resolution?? The sensor resolution will certainly not matter. If you are right, and the booster influences strength of DOF blur, that would be interesting to know. First time I ever hear of that.

@fto5935

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Optical. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmV6ppZmn6W2prw.html ~7:30

Awesome idea with that rig and the whole experiment!! :) Will definitely check out your channel further. About the DOF, I have a few thoughts: 1. maybe just a user error (your screen showed f3.2 when you put on the camera); 2. f2.8 on the lens would translate to f2.0 in the screen, when the speedbooster is added so f2.8 setting on the screen is actually an f4. 3. There may be a possibility (at least sometimes that happens on canon bodies), that when you remove the lens, or switch off the camera to remove the lens, it opens the aperture wide open automatically, therefore, losing the f2.8 setting. Those are just guesses, as I also have no other thoughts, why would the dof be different than the SB sversion of the shot.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you... sure, have a stroll ;-) 1. sure... maybe. Of course, the scenes of the recording are staged after the fact and I didn't care to actually use the same settings on all components... it is more about showing the process. 2. It helps to understand that the lens "creates" the image and the sensor "just" scans it. If the lens indeed had the same iris setting (and I believe it did), the boosted image and the s35 should have the same DOF as it is the same image. A booster just gives a shallower DOF than a native lens, because it allows same framing at longer focal length. The focal length and the image crop are exactly the same for booster and TwinSpin 3. possible... but having done this a couple of times, I believe the Sigma doesn't change focal length if the body is just switched of (unpowering the lens) or disconnected (unpowering the lens as well). It doesn't contain a battery that could allow such an action (as far as I know) There has been some suggestions here and on Reddit. It might be related to a flange distance that is slightly off. Thanks a lot for your input Reinis

Thumbs up and subbed! I have a minor question in regards to simulating film on digital m43 cameras: What would the focal length of 40mm in super35 translate to to in MFT format?

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks... and nice to have you. That would be 28mm. You can always use this very convenient online tool: www.pointsinfocus.com/tools/depth-of-field-and-equivalent-lens-calculator/#{%22c%22:[{%22f%22:11,%22av%22:%228%22,%22fl%22:40,%22d%22:3048,%22cm%22:%220%22}],%22m%22:0}

@tehPlacebow

4 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision You´re a hero! Awesome fun tool! I´ve seen calculations floating around the web saying that if you multiply your m43 focal length by two you get the full frame sensor equivalent(roughly). And Super35´s sensor is even larger right? So to get a focal length AND Fov as close to 35mm or 40mm (on super35 to simulate wes and other filmmakers) would this still be a 28mm m43 lens? Apologies if my question is confusing, i´m pretty bogged up thinking about this! The reason im so passionate about it is because I would like to pick up a budget cine lens for m43 like the meike to practice with and get as close to the actual picture you would have on super35 at 35mm or 40mm. I think this topic is super interesting as well haha!

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

No problem... s35 much smaller than 35mm (vertical running film instead of horizontal running film)... here is a size comparison I did kzread.info/dash/bejne/pImDu7qjeJnfZ9o.html.... in the link I send before (paste copy... don't click), you can scroll down and you see a list in sequence of size with formats... all with the calculated values. S35 is 1.39 crop factor. That is spot-on half way between FF and MFT. Now 28mm on MFT equivalent to 40mm on s35 should make sense

Wow! Revealing. I say that the M4/3 sensor is 70% bigger than the old 16mm film stock of yesteryear. Adding the focal reducer gets you the 35mm movie film stock field of view. The only thing I don't like about my particular the focal reducer is the lens flares. It project a second set of flares in huge bluish-purple hexagonal pattern over the original lens flare. Outside of that I'm surprised at how well the m4/3 with a focal reducer performs.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

That sound strange… my booster doesn't do that. Of course, the lens will add an element to the flare, but zooms have so many already... one more doesn't matter to me. Yes, I was suprised how close they are. But between 8k s35 and native, there is a least a relevant difference.

Great channel. The reason that the depth of field is shallower on the spin-twin (ST) even at the same f-stop is that on the others you zoomed to a smaller focal length. F-stop if the ratio of focal length over aperture, thus at the smaller focal length the same f-stop was a smaller aperture. At the same perspective -- same scene same camera position -- aperture in millimeters determines depth of field. For the ST you stated focal length of 28mm at f/2.8, so the aperture was 10mm. You didn't state the focal length for the others, just that you zoomed in till the image on the smaller sensor matched. There may be a secondary effect in that on the higher resolution ST the "circle of confusion" should be smaller. We can resolve smaller variations in focus.

Home made Panavision! 😍

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Yes..... ultra Panavision 70.... I'm peeing myself already. Camera is on the way

Camera scientist, nice!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robin… and thanks for watching!

hello good night, to reap the effect you get on the lumix gh5, is it necessary to make all the paraphernalia you do with the cameras, or is it just to place the espeedbooster? regards

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

I don't follow?! We describe in detail what we do in what situation. you can't turn your Gh5 into a practical 8k cam. This is an experiment

Interesting Perspectives, surprised to see such little difference. As you mention... it depends on what application it's for! Only thing that comes to mind with the depth of field... could to be the flange distance?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

thanks Richard... yeah, flange is the No 1 candidate at the time.

Well I can tell the 8K is still superior even when displayed on my 1440 screen if not by much. However, I wouldn't consider the comparison absolute at this point since, the demonstration are under controlled conditions. Still, one has to wonder if the results would be as close out in the real world and what anomalies might pop up when light starts bouncing around from all angles? In the end, size does matter. Although it may be outside the necessary parameters for all intents and purposes. In any event, this demonstration was superb and very revealing. Bravo!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input Krane! It gets very apparent sitting close to a large 4K screen BUT of course… that is only so important. Comparing the GH5 at the time, I can say that shows remarkable results, considering they tiny sensel size ;-)

After watching your videos. I am now going to purchase a second-hand GH5 with lots of extras. Is there anything I should look out for? With my drone ( mavic pro air) and that camera, I want to make little crazy videos with the music I have made over the years.

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Look out for power lines 😝no, sounds like a solid combo for the enthusiast. Some day you might want to add a Gimbal or step up to the Mavic Pro 2 as the image is so much better

Richtig richtig cool.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Danke dir!

Amazing content! One question, I have GH5 with a speedbooster 0.71x and want to record in 6k Open Gate, shoud I buy Super35mm EF Lenses or Full Frame EF Lenses?? I'm trying to avoid any kind of vignetting. I was looking the Meike cine lens for full frame or super 35mm version. Thanks

@MediaDivision

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, both should work, but especially on wide lenses you can minimise vignetting even more by using full frame lenses... not that that will matter much.

Regarding the depth of field between the speedboosted shot and the 8k, IMO there's a very small difference between them, but could it be that the speedboosted shot was back focused slightly, making the background slightly more in focus? I honestly don't see how the DoF could otherwise be different as mathematically it should be identical to the 8k shot when viewed at the same size. Edit: thinking about it a little more, I think what most likely happened was that the 8k version ended up being slightly front focused when you were estimating the flange distance

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input. Thats what I thought (should be the same)… focus was not touched. Someone on Reddit suggested, that I had a flange distance for the TwinSpin that was slightly off and that could possibly cause the effect.

@thatcherfreeman

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision I suppose that the way to be sure would be to do the test on a scene with a very shallow depth of field so it's obvious where the camera is focused and how deep the DoF goes. Interesting video as always!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@thatcherfreeman yeah… not going to invest that time ;-) Thanks man

@maggnet4829

5 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought, that there is a back focus issue. Best is to put a rule at the side of the projector in a 45° angle, like that you can see precisely where the focus is.

@evanburns9182

5 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that if you were to try focusing on something further away with the TwinSplin, you would not be able to get the image sharp. I think you have to adjust back focus for infinity first and then use the Sigma 18-35mm focus to get your subject sharp.

Excellent experiment! I'd really love to be a fly on the wall making direct observations when you fellows produce your work. Perhaps, on the unlikely chance I conjure up shift shaping or find my magic wand, you should lay off on swatting flys or at least flys with a big grin on their fly face.

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... maybe there will come a day, where we will produce an episode as part of a workshop?

Godd I love ya videos

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Zack... if you feel so, it is wroth doing it ;-)

I've been deeply researching this lately. I'm a firm believer of owning the gear I really like working with and renting when the production calls for it. I've been trying to figure out the next stage for my GH5S. I've rented the Metabones Speedbooster for it and I like what it does for the field of view and lens options but I feel like I got more distortions in my build using the Rokinon Cine DS lenses that I didn't get on a full frame camera. I'm kind of at a crossroads of purchasing the speedbooster vs a larger format camera such as the EVA1 or one of the other options in the 6-10k USD range. I really appreciate the content you make here, it has definitely influenced my research. Thank you.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Red... I don't worry to much about distortions, your viewers usually don't care and it is often even thought after... like in wide anamorphic lenses. "La La Land" is a distortion party. All setups have advantages and disadvantages. I will soon get a MAVO LF and I will go deeper into Full Format and boosted medium formats. She is the missing component in my Ultra Panavision 70 setup. EVA1 is definitely a solid all purpose camera for people that work on all front lines and I can recommend her. Maybe you look into the Lumix S when it comes out. I like to have MFT, s35, and FF options in my arsenal... and maybe one day a 65mm ;-)

@RedRamzor

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision I gotta say I'm extremely excited to hear about that Panavision setup. I feel like subconsciously we relate the distortions from anamorphic lenses to watching a movie yet the distortions from the Speedbooster feel unnatural in a way. I've had both success and minor flubs with it. I hadn't even heard of the Lumix S until now, I will definitely start looking in to it. Seems like a great option for the cost.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@RedRamzor I can't see any distortions in this test caused by the booster... that was more or less my purpose for the test. I do agree that anamorphic play our subconsciousness to perceive a higher production value. They are mild in the ultra Panavision 70 as it is only a 1.25 stretch, but thats another unique characteristic that separates it from the normal 2x scope

@RedRamzor

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Your footage looked quite similar. Perhaps I'm pushing my glass too far which is why I'm seeing some milky distortion in my setup.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

@@RedRamzor Thats sounds like the is dirt, fungus or anything else on or in the booster?! Or you use a cheap/bad booster. The Metabones doesn't do anything like that even shot wide open.

What is the accessory you used to mount the lenses on to the mattebox?

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

These... you only need one and cheap step-down rings to fit all your lenses www.brighttangerine.com/store/threaded-donut-rings/

Love your vides! With regard to the quesiton at 8:59, to my knowledge the speed booster is only supposed to provide the fstop luminance of the S35 equivalent, not the DOF

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… the question was not about that… the speedbooster makes an equivalent lens according to the factor,... with all the properties including DOF. Thats not what happened here… probably a flange problem.

I am a sony user, but I have the same question: fully invest in fullframe video or super35? I have both cameras now and can't decide

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

IMHO that totally depends on your needs and budgets. I have GH5 MFT, EVA1 s35, and upcoming a FF Mavo LF... I love the idea of FF/LF sensors and what they bring to the table.... but I also have to admit, that production wise it almost doesn't matter any more. All modern cameras are so close together... even in difficult situations. I know this doesn't help you, but hey... why don't you go for what you feel like.

Found this one year later. I need to say that thank you very much doing this, very very interesting. I have a question which perhaps you would know the answer to. The GH5S uses a wider part of the sensor and so I was wondering if a super 35 lens would vignette when using the 0.71 x speed booster. I have the 0.64 times and for sure it vignettes! Thanks in advance!

@MediaDivision

3 жыл бұрын

Pleasure man....there is no simple answer to that... it very much depends on the lens. longer lenses cover better. Example: a Sigma 18-35 covers Full Frame from about 22 upward... so, it would cover MFT from 22 even with a 0.64. As a 0.64 is not all the way FF to MFT it will certainly still cover GH5. to be sure with lenses that barely cover you will have to try.

@fritzproduction7113

3 жыл бұрын

Media Division thanks so much for getting back to me, really appreciate it. It’s the gh5s we use which I think shoots a little wider on the sensor than the gh5 if I’m not mistaken? I had in mind perhaps the sigma 50-100 T2 lens actually. Or perhaps the new dzo film 20-70 or 50-125 Pictor lenses. I wouldnt mind at all to buy the 0,71x booster instead if that were to help things. Thing is we operate out of Bali, so access to try these things is limited. In a covid free world we would go to Singapore to do hands on testing. Sorry to pick your brains, but your brains are valuable! Thanks again in advance!!!

@MediaDivision

3 жыл бұрын

@@fritzproduction7113 You are asking me about gear I don't posses. Should the 50-100 work using a 0.71... sure. Why don't you go into the facebook groups with the users that do possess the gear? That way you can be sure facebook.com/groups/pansonicgh5

@fritzproduction7113

3 жыл бұрын

Media Division thanks so much for the lead! Will check it out. Appreciated!!!

Wow! Very interested in anamorphic lens! )

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Cyril.... give me a while. I want to nail it before I release something... but the fitting camera will arrive very soon.

Amazing work! Did you do all this by yourself?

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Saleh… yes of course… I think I got way better since, watch some of our new stuff. Got a little help with the latest two.

Does a speedbooster (e.g. .64x) make a MFT native lens (e.g. Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 II at 35mm) create an image on GH4 (1080p, or 4k with that addl. sensor crop) with the same appearance of focal length and field of view as a full-frame 35mm lens on a Super 35 mm sensor, inclusive of the same distance from camera to subject? Thanks for any expertise on this, my how spin twin is a technique!

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

there are a couple things off... might be a language problem. You can't boost a native MFT lens. To use a 64x (speedbooster XL) you need to use a full frame lens. There is no specific look to any format... an s35 lens has a 0.7x crop compared to FF... MFT a 0.7 cop to s35.... MFT a 0.5 cop to FF. The "equivalency of lenses" dictates what focal lengths and fstops look the same on a given format. This will help: www.pointsinfocus.com/tools/depth-of-field-and-equivalent-lens-calculator/

Hi have you figure out the cause of the difference between spintwin and speedbooster?

thats cool

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Abe!!!

Very impresive test. You have an interesting channel. Finally a serious test of speedboosters versus native lens. One observation though. The shadows were darker and had much less noise with the speedbooster than the 35 and in my opinoon was little better with a native lens as well. I wonder why you didn't use an adapter and corrected the frame like you did with the native lens, or did I miss the explanation in the intro?

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks David... I am not sure what you mean. The point of the test is to compare the look of the same object/framing/perspective using a native lens MFT vs boosted s35 vs "real" s35... to evaluate if it is worth it going s35 (or boosted s35). The larger lens collects a bit more light that we compensate with higher ISO on native MFT... so, a bit more noise is to be expected. The real s35 has 2x the resolution, so less light per pixel... the raised noise level is less obvious as the noise is finer... does that help?

If you would make a Skillshare course, I would probably sign Up for it. Your videos are always content wise and quality wise on such a high level

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Carsten.... if there where enough of people that think like you, I would like to do that. But I kind of doubt that ;-)

Would the flange distance in the spintwin have effected the depth of field?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Probably, at least many of you proposed that. Thank you for the input Tyler

Your Dept of field is not shallower course you're not using one big sensor but 2 small sensors... Beautiful video im totally subscribing

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

thank you and glad to have you around. The hole purpose of being behind the lens and "scanning" different portions of that projection is to effectively simulate a large sensor. You can solve that with armchair logic for yourself. If you had a Full Format sensor, and you would cut the sensor to pieces, and then you would assemble the images generated by the pieces... would that image assembled in post have another depths of field as the original sensor... no. It would be differnet if you moved the cam and lens together.

Its so different compare another KZread videos. Film mode all time. Waiting more and longer "Films" from you :) :)

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Josh.... encouraging in deed! The only thing I can offer you is my Goldvader Episode... it is the longest and most complicated YT contend that I made so far..... now, real films?!?! Let's keep dreaming :-)))))

Niki - What is the name of the Facebook EVA1 user group are you involved in?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

It is this one Dave: facebook.com/groups/panasonicaueva1/

Do you also have an Amazon affiliate link for a new 8K TV? .... ;-) Find ich super, diese Bastelstunde.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Gibts noch nicht bei Amazon………… ansonsten wäre einer drin ;-) Danke Dir!

I know you mentioned that you record with the GH5 a lot for these episodes - what lenses do you tend to use for these? And amazing lighting btw!

@MediaDivision

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks... of this one are shot on EVA1... using a Sigma 18-35 EVA1 looks quite similar to GH5... of course EVA1 looks better and has less noise. Low noise level is important for KZread and noise reduction is ineffective in long form formats

this is some smart concept lol

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

I left the first like! woo! What is your normal day job / career?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man… there has s been a buch but YT is not counting views or likes on the view page for some reason?! Who knows. I have an advertising and film production company. Web, Design, Film, Magazines, Concepts, Social Media… you need it we do it ;-)

Great color grading.. Teach me master..

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

chhers man… but I am not worthy of being your Master. I can recommend Aram K… he was my master ;-) kzread.info/dron/ZtUUSXgoWy6_c_e1CoWH5w.html

Love watching these from iPhone screen :D

@MediaDivision

2 жыл бұрын

Come on... please watch on a large screen TV with a bear and some popcorn. Especially the newer ones are feature film productions

@ProphetNikoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision I usually start on the iPhone then move on to PC monitor since on the tiny screen you can’t see what is what. By the way, videos on superfast lenses and anamorphic are FIRE! ❤️

@MediaDivision

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the spirit… yeah… a ton of work went into those. Glad you enjoy… this is possible because of the generosity of people like you. Thank you!!!!

Excellent, love your content mi amigo, and you remind me of Humphry Bogart. (not important, I know)

@MediaDivision

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.... recognising faces is other faces is very common, and it doesn't mean I look like Bogart, but that your brain uses the same neuronal network for both of us... a bit like with Pareidolia...I wish I knew what this is called in science but I can't find it.

What are those rings you screwed on the lenses?

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

It*s donut rings to make a smaller lens fit a matte box.... there are from bright tangerine www.brighttangerine.com/store/threaded-donut-rings/

The 8K footage is sharpee and higher dynamic range.. You see the air lighted up when the projector in on ...in the other firmats you don't see it ...😎.. Well done ..great learnings!

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, but I don’t think that the resolution influences the dynamic range in any other way then giving you a bit more “usable” details in the shadow due to the finer noise and what one would perceived as acceptable. The illuminated air and the difference between the shots is simply a slightly uneven haze in the room.... let’s say... a cloud came by. Sharpness (or Detail like I prefer to call it) is higher in the 8k for sure!

@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision haha i was already thinking ..".maybe he was smoking during the 8K shot ..🤣😉

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Right... my office is a de facto bong :-)

Why i see projection light clearly only on 8k super 35 .but not in others.

@MediaDivision

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the question… probably due to language barriers. The haze differs from shot to shot, so that might be the reason

Oh man this was cool

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!!

What's with the red seizure light when ever you show the GH5?? 1:42

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

It the projector that we are filming for the experiment.... just shining in the lens. Thought it would make a boring image a bit special

Holy cow.. KZread now support 8K! And here I'm using 1366x768 super crap green shifted monitor seasoned with dead pixels here and there.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

It has for years.... time for a new screen. Modern TVs work well and a dirt cheap

@AyushBakshi

5 жыл бұрын

@@MediaDivision Yeah. But I would like to make a direct jump for a pro monitor... (that's what I like to think.. 😅 I'll settle for a cheap fairly color precise 2K/4K monitor in a few years [I don't earn yet]). What monitor do you use for color grading? And looking at the video description I'd like to praise the inclusion of footage again. I'll play with it when I get better PSU (current one is crap.. shuts system down when GPU and CPU are stressed together).

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Actually a calibrated Samsung Premium UHD TV. The image is just as good as my 2000$ hardware calibrated 32inch and thats where my contend lives anyways. It is important to circumvent the OS to avoid shifts. I use a blackmagic decklink. thanks man... glad you have fun with it.

This would be an interesting way to design a camera.

@MediaDivision

5 жыл бұрын

Thats what Arri did with the Alexa LF and the Alexa 65